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best "stolen phone" program?

what do you guys recomend for one of those "stolen phone" programs, and tracking your phone if it ever gets stolen?

SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE

Thanks for the tip

There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.

_mike_ said:
There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.
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Now we know that we can cook a program into ROM.. Although i am aware of the fact that there are so many Cooking Guides available here in the forum and that also become a problem for me to choose a best step by step guide for cooking ROM and adding a program into it.... could some one translate this for me....

I use mobile justice. So far haven't had to use it, so I really can't comment on it to much, I did play with it a little and like it.

max621 said:
SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE
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thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.

mikeeey said:
thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.
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You must try it Mate... since i myself using Terminator and its quite good.. BTW have you tried to cook any of the software into ROM with required phone numbers ?

On a somewhat related note, generally what happens to stolen PDA/Phones?
The reason for this question was that I was looking at "Ultimate Theft Alert v3" after seeing a link in someone's signature. I thought it sounded like a good idea, but I was aware that a hard reset would kill any protection that the program would offer.
So I was wondering what would happen. If the want the data from the phone they would be hoping it wouldn't lock, because if it does you can't get in to get the data easily. If it does lock and the SIM is still in (or it is taken out and not replaced), I assume there is some way to get round it (like auto-run from an SD card and copy off the data) and it won't have dialled home. Once that is done they can ditch the device....
If they do want the device, they will try and use it and, if it has a lock on it, they will have to hard-reset to get it in. If they had used a similar device before, they might hard-reset anyway.
So this means that most likely the device will not get the chance to dial home given most of these types of software don't auto-cook themselves.
If it is cooked into the ROM it would stand a much better chance of being able to dial home, but if it was not automated I would wonder if it was all worth it. By this time your data is safe (I am assuming you encrypted your SD card and the hard reset will have wiped the device ASSUMING the thief didn't manage to get data off while it was locked) and insurance will no doubt get you a new one.
So.... has anyone managed to use this type of software to retrieve their stolen phone?

GPS
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.

yeah i heard about a program that would that i dont know if the ones they were talking about above do that thouhg. it was cool u send a text message with a code in it to your phone and your phone kicks you back the location of the phone

umvagia0 said:
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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The one I referred to (Ultimate Theft Alert) claims it. I don't use it, so I don't know how effective it is.

umvagia0 said:
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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As i mentioned before, i am using SPRITE TERMINATOR and i do throughly test it. It do send me the GPS coordinates on the given mobile number and i also try the WIPE command from the other mobile phone for Data deltion and that command successfully delete the whole data including the Storage card... But after the deletion it locked the device..... But for GPS the device must be outside otherwise u have to send the command again....

Best anti-theft software for Kaiser?

Hello community!
I just wanted to see some input from you guys as far as what is your preferred anti-theft application for your Kaiser phone? There's a few applications out there, and the following is a short list of the most popular apps out there:
- WIMP (Where is my phone)
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
- MobileJustice
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
- Sprite Terminator
http://spriteterminator.com/
Theres a few more out there, and I am curious as to see which one has the best options and capabilities. Some of them have GPS tracking systems, others can wipe all your information remotely, either way they have the potential to become real handy in extreme cases.
If anyone has a story to share where they used these applications in a real world situation please share it with the community as well!
Thanks

Sprite
I have tried Remoteprotect, and Ultimate theft before Sprite Terminator. Remoteprotect works great but no GPS and Ultimate theft would not shut off when tested. It keeps forwarding the text and its also a gimick you have to buy it in three separte sections. So I would recomend Sprite Terminator.

you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.

I am also interested in installing one of these programs. Is there anyone who has tried more than one of them? Which do you recommend?

does anyone know if there is any possibility that we could implement the HP security system for there new ipaq phones into other WM phones?
something like what is explained in the end of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owrhyjxLeE&eurl=http://www.expansys-usa.com/video.aspx?id=636&i=157753

MODS. This thread should be in the general Kaiser forum....it would get more relevant views there I would think.

http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/antivirus-mobile.php

I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)

pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)
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this is a nice app... i might give it a try. thanks

pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab
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Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?

Jimmyy said:
Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?
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yes i am also concerned for that aas well... but i remember reading up on one of those programs listed above that also works in the background even when the sim card get pulled out...

There was one I was looking at, don't remember the name now. Maybe it is one already listed. Anyway, you could go on the internet at any time and see on a map where your phone is, and if someone thought they were going to just take your SIM out and replace it with theirs the phone immediately sends you a text with the phone number of the new SIM card. I thought that was cool, because you would then know who was using your phone.
-Jay

This has got to be the best one....
http://www.evenbyte.com/?page=product&id=2
It will do as the others... but will also send you call history and sms logs from the users sim to you so you know whats been typed and called too..

maximono said:
you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.
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Wow awesome! Thx for this! The only thing to find out is how to hide it, and cook it with settings into a ROM.

These are all great programs but.....
I had my 8125 stolen and the crook just did a hard reset and the recovery software was gone. Luckily the bad guys had other bad habits and the cops found them. They recovered my phone but it was totally wiped clear, had been reinstalled with new music but no tracking software.
Because not just heavy users know how to do a hard reset the thing that is missing is having the tracking software burned into the rom so it can't be erased. I know this is quite A challenge. But when and if that can be solve we will have a good tool to protect our Under perfoming HTC devices (could not help that last part)

Cook the app into a ROM isn't that hard i think (also i haven't cooked a ROM until now, but seen tutorials which explain how) and in case of smartphonetracker the settings are saved in "settings.config" so we need to cook in a file which 'simply' copys this file into the "Program File" folder. Doesn't sound too hard but the "simply copy.." is may the biggest problem.
For sure nearly everybody who visit this forum is capable of flashing a new ROM and therefore can avoid tracking. But the bit more security is worth the effort, in my opinion.

I still don't understand.
Let's assume some asshole and steals your phone. Why do they do with it?
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
Option B - Access to Data. You're device is password protected (right?) so they need that to get into the phone via activesync. As long as they don't switch it off, it might not lock the screen so they'd have to leave your SIM in... but then they'd surely be intelligent (they want data after all) go to flight mode and it won't be able to dial home. And then there's the media card.... even encrypted it probably wouldn' be hard to bypass. Surely the best you can hope for is to send a message and have the phone kill itself.
Option C - Phoning <insert foreign country>. Same answer as A.
Result is, I do not see how this software can be of real use. The best thing that I can think about for this software is someone can text you while you are driving and have it reply where you are on your behalf.
Or am I missing something?

Cavey.co.uk said:
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
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Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.

well how about some thug takes your phone and isn't to savy tech wise. He doesn't take it because it's "the top of the line" driverless phone, no he takes it because it's shinny and looks expensive. So maybe they are smart enough to just turn it off for a little while but at some point they turn it on to check out what it does and to see if it works. I'm thinking at this point you get an email or txt with the gps location. Drop that into google maps, call the coppers, grab a chainsaw and head to where google leads you.
Am I missing something?

Stay0Puft said:
Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.
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Here in the US IMEI blacklisting is not done on GSM phones. The phones are locked to the carrier though, but the phone can be unlocked.
-Jay

program to track phone?

well i was thinking this would be a cool apt. is there somethign where idk your phone gets stolen. well you could just look it up on the web or something and it will give you a location via the gps? seems cool but i dont know how easy it is to do...
btw after switching from my now dead 8125 i love this phone! the graphics do lag a bit tho

The author of TrackMe is looking into making it a feature of TrackMe application
i found the following links by this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1956640&postcount=2012
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362296

Mobile Justice (downloadable through SourceForge) offers the ability to text message another phone (with the GPS coords or other info) should your SIM be replaced after being stolen or lost. Or you can surreptitiously text message your phone to get the info. There are also a number of paid software options.
Remember - if your phone is hard reset these programs will be gone unless you cook them (and the settings) into your ROM. I've done it with MobileJustice and it's not too tough.

Hi brianmay27
You could try this
I believe that it survives a hard reset too!?
Zippyioa

zippyioa said:
Hi brianmay27
You could try this
I believe that it survives a hard reset too!?
Zippyioa
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Went through it with WIMP too. Nothing out there (that I know of) survives a hard reset unless it (and your settings) are part of your ROM. Thus, any knowledgeable thief will just hard reset the phone once they have it. Personally I don't believe that many thieves will be that knowledgeable, but it is a danger. FYI.
Since all were virtually the same as far as protection, I went with MobileJustice because it's free. However, a free key to one was offered on here a while ago. I got it and may check that one out when I cook my next ROM. FWIW, this has been discussed many times before. Look here for other options - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365054

HTC TyTn 2 - Some Info on GUI for Newbie

Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. Its on orange, and the details of it are:
ROM Version: 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio Version: 1.27.14.32
Windows Mobile 6 Proffessional
I find it really boring and am looking for something to spice up the GUI.
I seen software on here called Cube. I was wondering if it actually works, and if there are any implications or lost functions related to installing it.
This is my first post, so i dont really have a clue what it is.
Also my phone is a works phone so it needs to be stable and retain all the Origigal functions.
Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz

There are some versions of the original "cube" as produced by HTC, which can be re-used on various devices for which it wasn't designed.
However, a number of our fellow members have written good or better 3rd party imitations of the cube launcher - try searching for cube and having a look at some of those ones.
IMHO the cube only has limited function, and you can do better with a well configured "Today" screen. There are hundreds of threads on modifying your today screen, and many screenshots for insipiration. Have a look at some of those.
At the end of the day, if you mess up your phone software wise, you can always "hard reset" which will reset to factory conditions, wiping all of your dodgy software off.
V

gaz_0001 said:
Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. ...snip... Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz
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I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill

whk said:
I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill
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Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
Seriously, look at this page, there is nothing on this page that can't be undone. You will learn a lot and your phone will be "kwel "
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_software_recs

denco7 said:
Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
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Yeah - I realized that I made it sound scary - but I wanted to convey (since it was specified that this is a work phone and has to maintain the original stuff...) that there was some risk - that reading was required and should be done before jumping off and trying things and then having the phone not available.
But - honestly - if what I said "scares" you - you probably ought not be messing with your "work phone" - don't you think?
Bill

I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help

Then you haven't read the wikis all the way through..
Also if that is a work phone I wouldn't flash any rom on it. (which duttys is a rom)

gaz_0001 said:
I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help
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Yes you will need to do all of the above, but TBH if you are after retaining all of the orignial functions of the phone then a flashed ROM is about as far away from that as you can be. It adds a lot of extras in removes a lot of bloatware etc. To answer your question yes when you flash a ROM it will auto upgrade you to WM6.1
EDIT: Beat me to the puch there Chumley

mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.

gaz_0001 said:
mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.
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Again , Look at the page I told you about in the fourth post. Home plugin, HTC Home Customizer, Point UI , Spb Mobile Shell. These are all window dressing and will not effect the function of your phone like a rom switch ( good and bad ) will Look here for inspiration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336013

if you are just after the "dutty look" then there is no need to flash a whole rom just to achieve that "look". you can just change you theme, install apps, change the skins etc, and you phone will look way cooler, in fact you may even become more attractive to the opposite sex

Cheers,
Just put the Slither C++ Cube thing on. Its sweet.
XtreMe_G - no new women yet... maybe it needs 24 hrs to kick in.... we'll see.

Newbie HTC Tytn II owner query...help greatly appreciated

Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things

Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum

thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler

ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers

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thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)

afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.

thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?

RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!

i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?

That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.