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Best anti-theft software for Kaiser?

Hello community!
I just wanted to see some input from you guys as far as what is your preferred anti-theft application for your Kaiser phone? There's a few applications out there, and the following is a short list of the most popular apps out there:
- WIMP (Where is my phone)
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
- MobileJustice
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/03/02/mo...monitor-sim-card-changes-via-gps-coordinates/
- Sprite Terminator
http://spriteterminator.com/
Theres a few more out there, and I am curious as to see which one has the best options and capabilities. Some of them have GPS tracking systems, others can wipe all your information remotely, either way they have the potential to become real handy in extreme cases.
If anyone has a story to share where they used these applications in a real world situation please share it with the community as well!
Thanks

Sprite
I have tried Remoteprotect, and Ultimate theft before Sprite Terminator. Remoteprotect works great but no GPS and Ultimate theft would not shut off when tested. It keeps forwarding the text and its also a gimick you have to buy it in three separte sections. So I would recomend Sprite Terminator.

you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.

I am also interested in installing one of these programs. Is there anyone who has tried more than one of them? Which do you recommend?

does anyone know if there is any possibility that we could implement the HP security system for there new ipaq phones into other WM phones?
something like what is explained in the end of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owrhyjxLeE&eurl=http://www.expansys-usa.com/video.aspx?id=636&i=157753

MODS. This thread should be in the general Kaiser forum....it would get more relevant views there I would think.

http://usa.kaspersky.com/products_services/antivirus-mobile.php

I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)

pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab.
and MccMobileFinder (incase you loose the phone somewhere in your house, it will turn the phone volume up and play an alarm, http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1749)
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this is a nice app... i might give it a try. thanks

pizzaguy said:
I personally like VITO FindMe (http://vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html) Free, get the activation code at the bottom of that page. NOTE: Since FindMe has an easily noticeable scrolling text, for the today screen, i like to hide it in an UltimateLaunch tab
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Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?

Jimmyy said:
Thats cool, I was thinking of looking for a program that did this. You cant be too careful .
The only downside I could think of if the sim gets yanked out you´re screwed - right? :S
How does it work, does it trigger a GPS connection every couple of minutes?
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yes i am also concerned for that aas well... but i remember reading up on one of those programs listed above that also works in the background even when the sim card get pulled out...

There was one I was looking at, don't remember the name now. Maybe it is one already listed. Anyway, you could go on the internet at any time and see on a map where your phone is, and if someone thought they were going to just take your SIM out and replace it with theirs the phone immediately sends you a text with the phone number of the new SIM card. I thought that was cool, because you would then know who was using your phone.
-Jay

This has got to be the best one....
http://www.evenbyte.com/?page=product&id=2
It will do as the others... but will also send you call history and sms logs from the users sim to you so you know whats been typed and called too..

maximono said:
you can also try this on http://smartphonetracker.blogspot.com/
free and working.
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Wow awesome! Thx for this! The only thing to find out is how to hide it, and cook it with settings into a ROM.

These are all great programs but.....
I had my 8125 stolen and the crook just did a hard reset and the recovery software was gone. Luckily the bad guys had other bad habits and the cops found them. They recovered my phone but it was totally wiped clear, had been reinstalled with new music but no tracking software.
Because not just heavy users know how to do a hard reset the thing that is missing is having the tracking software burned into the rom so it can't be erased. I know this is quite A challenge. But when and if that can be solve we will have a good tool to protect our Under perfoming HTC devices (could not help that last part)

Cook the app into a ROM isn't that hard i think (also i haven't cooked a ROM until now, but seen tutorials which explain how) and in case of smartphonetracker the settings are saved in "settings.config" so we need to cook in a file which 'simply' copys this file into the "Program File" folder. Doesn't sound too hard but the "simply copy.." is may the biggest problem.
For sure nearly everybody who visit this forum is capable of flashing a new ROM and therefore can avoid tracking. But the bit more security is worth the effort, in my opinion.

I still don't understand.
Let's assume some asshole and steals your phone. Why do they do with it?
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
Option B - Access to Data. You're device is password protected (right?) so they need that to get into the phone via activesync. As long as they don't switch it off, it might not lock the screen so they'd have to leave your SIM in... but then they'd surely be intelligent (they want data after all) go to flight mode and it won't be able to dial home. And then there's the media card.... even encrypted it probably wouldn' be hard to bypass. Surely the best you can hope for is to send a message and have the phone kill itself.
Option C - Phoning <insert foreign country>. Same answer as A.
Result is, I do not see how this software can be of real use. The best thing that I can think about for this software is someone can text you while you are driving and have it reply where you are on your behalf.
Or am I missing something?

Cavey.co.uk said:
Option A - Re-sale. Surely this shouldn't be possible as the original owner of the phone will contact the network and the IMEI will be blocked.
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Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.

well how about some thug takes your phone and isn't to savy tech wise. He doesn't take it because it's "the top of the line" driverless phone, no he takes it because it's shinny and looks expensive. So maybe they are smart enough to just turn it off for a little while but at some point they turn it on to check out what it does and to see if it works. I'm thinking at this point you get an email or txt with the gps location. Drop that into google maps, call the coppers, grab a chainsaw and head to where google leads you.
Am I missing something?

Stay0Puft said:
Many Kaisers are not bound to their phone network. I can insert another sim card and use it without limitations.
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Here in the US IMEI blacklisting is not done on GSM phones. The phones are locked to the carrier though, but the phone can be unlocked.
-Jay

program to track phone?

well i was thinking this would be a cool apt. is there somethign where idk your phone gets stolen. well you could just look it up on the web or something and it will give you a location via the gps? seems cool but i dont know how easy it is to do...
btw after switching from my now dead 8125 i love this phone! the graphics do lag a bit tho

The author of TrackMe is looking into making it a feature of TrackMe application
i found the following links by this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1956640&postcount=2012
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362296

Mobile Justice (downloadable through SourceForge) offers the ability to text message another phone (with the GPS coords or other info) should your SIM be replaced after being stolen or lost. Or you can surreptitiously text message your phone to get the info. There are also a number of paid software options.
Remember - if your phone is hard reset these programs will be gone unless you cook them (and the settings) into your ROM. I've done it with MobileJustice and it's not too tough.

Hi brianmay27
You could try this
I believe that it survives a hard reset too!?
Zippyioa

zippyioa said:
Hi brianmay27
You could try this
I believe that it survives a hard reset too!?
Zippyioa
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Went through it with WIMP too. Nothing out there (that I know of) survives a hard reset unless it (and your settings) are part of your ROM. Thus, any knowledgeable thief will just hard reset the phone once they have it. Personally I don't believe that many thieves will be that knowledgeable, but it is a danger. FYI.
Since all were virtually the same as far as protection, I went with MobileJustice because it's free. However, a free key to one was offered on here a while ago. I got it and may check that one out when I cook my next ROM. FWIW, this has been discussed many times before. Look here for other options - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365054

Wich ANTI THEFT program is better?

hi guys, I have my precious HTC touch diamond for a week now, and because of its beautifull shine, everyone wants to have one.
That's why i did some searching on the web about anti theft programs, and I found these 3
Ultimate Theft Alert v3
W.I.M.P.
Sprite Terminator
They all look pretty good, but before buying anything (or downloading ) I want to know wich one is best to pick, could you guys help me with that? also keep on mind that the program has to work on a VGA screen
Thanks, Markos Wahid

Tried three of them also and decided to (actually buy) sprite terminator with a coupon disc 50% (forgot where i got it thou), reason to buy:
- support
- price (very cheap!!!)
- easy to use

a program called mobile justice thats free and does the job, if you burn it in to a ROM before you flash the ROM to your device it will resist hardresets as well unlike most programs out there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice/

not to mention a steel chain with a steel lock, one end at yr diamond, second one around yr neck
jokes aside, ultimate theft alert is the most popular.
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen

I need some advice to burn Ultimate theft alert to a ROM on diamond.
Is this possible?

^probably... check the developer forum..theyd be better at answering that...
i think the guy who makes ultimate theft also posts here...It seems the nicest.. the other alternative is sprite...the middle one doesnt look nice. i dont really know since i never had a wm device. im just saying from what ive read...

I tried to install Theft Alert but the instalation crashes...
Has anyone the same issue?

KukurikU said:
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
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Settings --> Owner information --> Options --> "When the device is turned on, display: Identification Information"

Sprite terminator requires some additional editing. It says my GPS location is in China somewhere.
Ultimate Theft seems to work alright, but I havent tested it yet with the sims, which I'll do in a few minutes.
I like the ULT 3.5 better.

what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T

Baronic said:
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
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I agree. All these softwares are useless as most people would hard reset the device.... As far as cooking goes, I really want to get into doing this - I just need the 'beginner' tutorial, before the 'hardcore' tutorial..

Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.

Riel said:
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Well I do know that HardSPL has overwrite protection and you cannot flash a new SPL after you've installed it. Although there will be a 'downgrade' package soon so you can get back to stock SPL.

I don't understand why there isn't such a flash and/or hard reset protection...it's just very frustrating when you lose the device(like I did once) knowing the next 'owner' could simply hard reset (or flash a new ROM) to use it as his own device. I know, cooking some settings into a ROM solves a little piece, but more and more people are aware of XDA-dev and know about flashing. So you could cook your anti-theft into your ROM, but agianst flashing there is nothing u can do

Well, I thought, it should be possible to lock SPL flashing, by encrypting the bootloader by (my own) password?
On the moment one makes flashing without my password impossible, a antitheft program can be installed in the ROM and running always, even with hard-reset.
One should vind an easy way of providing MY sim card data into that rom prior to flashing.

Hi Folks,
But back to the topic, is there any anti-theft programs that really works in the first place for Diamond? I had tried Star Enforcer (it can't get the current IMSI number), Mobile Justice (it can't send out SMS) and RemoteTracker (can't run... I need to research more on this..).
Cheers.

mobile justice, did you install the certificate? most problems are as a result of that not being done, give me a PM if you want a hand and ill talk you through it, it does work well, but as already been mentioned all it takes for any software is a full flash, if you install many of the apps to the ROM before flashing it you can at least survive a hard reset.

Thanks Dazza,
I had missed installing the certificate.
But now, after some testing, I found out that it was only able to send out SMS unless I select "Disp.MsgBox".
Is this something expected? May be MJ needs to be re-rewritten or recompiled for WM6.1?
I'm aware of the hard reset issue. Am planning for myself to learn how to cook up a ROM, with my details in, to prevent this.
Cheers.

Tried UTA 3.5. and WIMP
Both can send out Text messages to designated telephone no.
But i thought UTA 3.5 could monitor the sms and phone calls going in or out of the phone. but it didnt seem to work. it crashed. and when you inserted a new sim it kept on asking whether i wanted to run the .exe file not very good.
Am testing out WIMP at the moment and seems to be ok.
but not alot of functionality if compared with UTA that is if UTA worked.
That would be a very good idea if you can input it into the ROM. but will you not have to mess with the registry to 'register' the product and keep your data.?

Well,
When I did a hard-reset last week, I observed that the device begins installing some software onto itself, just like it did when I first powered it up. May be we can cook up something into a cook ROM to do something identical? E.g. the settings required for MJ?
But then, I'm a noob at this stage (with a full time job and family). So, I'll have a very long way to go.
Cheers.

Backup->Hard Reset->Restore-> All good?

I read in a post somewhere that you should just plan on doing a hard rest every so often. I also read that it's as simple as doing a backup, do the hard reset, do the restore. Is that accurate?
I was thinking I did that once, but I still had to do a bunch of setup for settings on some things.
I am having problems with my Tomtom working well with the large USA and Canada maps, so I'm thinking about trying the hard reset. But if it's going to require a lot of resetting up my settings, I'm not sure I want to go down that path until I have a bigger need.
(I do have the full Sprite backup manager software).

ewingr said:
I read in a post somewhere that you should just plan on doing a hard rest every so often. I also read that it's as simple as doing a backup, do the hard reset, do the restore. Is that accurate?
I was thinking I did that once, but I still had to do a bunch of setup for settings on some things.
I am having problems with my Tomtom working well with the large USA and Canada maps, so I'm thinking about trying the hard reset. But if it's going to require a lot of resetting up my settings, I'm not sure I want to go down that path until I have a bigger need.
(I do have the full Sprite backup manager software).
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Yeah.. thats how it goes down. The thing is if you restore a backup you made while having your tomtom problems they will still be there after the hard reset.
I suggest the latest version of Spb backup. It seems to be playing well with 6.1 roms..

ewingr said:
I am having problems with my Tomtom working well with the large USA and Canada maps, so I'm thinking about trying the hard reset. But if it's going to require a lot of resetting up my settings, I'm not sure I want to go down that path until I have a bigger need.
(I do have the full Sprite backup manager software).
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If you installed Tomtom navigator and the map(s) to your Kaiser using Tomtom Home 1.5 desktop software, then it's very straightforward restoring TT Navigator 6 and its maps etc with this program - thats how I do it. Have you seen the thread in this forum about hopeless GPS after WM 6.1 upgrade - does that affect you?

The thing is if you restore a backup you made while having your tomtom problems they will still be there after the hard reset.
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That makes sense. Actually, I have completely uninstalled Tomtom, reformatted my SD card, and reinstlled,and stil lhave the problem. So, I'm thinking it may be something else on the phone.
Regarding the general thought about hard reset: what I had read was that just doing the backup/reset/restore fixes many 'problems', but I have to say that it would seem just restoring would in fact just bring things back the way they were. So doing a hard reset, then fresh install of everything seems the right thing to do. What a pain.
Have you seen the thread in this forum about hopeless GPS after WM 6.1 upgrade - does that affect you?
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I've seen that thread, but as I'm not on 6.1, I haven't taken the time to read it. I may glance at it to see what it's all about.

[Q] Putting anti-theft app inside ROM?

How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?

mcbyte_it said:
How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?
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Daran was offering to cook Sprite Terminator into personalized ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178&highlight=daran
Not sure if he's still doing that, but you could try contacting him.

i search for it too
i find the following program, but withou howto: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net

I am interested too if its possible. THere are few tutorials to do that but I never been successful in doing it. Hope if someone does that.

i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone.