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Why is T-MO's BlueTooth so difficult to use?

The one thing I truly hate about my T-Mo MDA after 6 months is the difficulty using BlueTooth. I had an HP6315 (also T-Mo) which, despite all its other problems (like crashing everyday) had a far more sensible BlueTooth tool.
I don't have an issue with changing the stack--once I'm connected to a device I'm pretty much good, but the connection process is a serious pain in the patoot.
Before the impatient pros tell me "why don't you do a search before you post?" let me say that I have, and nobody I've found addresses this.
It's a really simple thing: every other device I own or have owned that uses B/T peripherals has a "Connect" choice. It doesn't matter if it was my 6315 Ipaq, my laptop computers, a Motorola cell phone or Samsung D-820/T-809 cell phones. All have the ability to force the connection. But the MDA doesn't, as far as I can tell. It either connects automatically, or you (frequently) have to delete the device and initiate a new search for it.
Am I missing something? Is this just the way the MDA is? Is there a piece of software or a registry hack that allows you to force it to connect?
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
Thanks!

Yanktar03 said:
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
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You can do this. Get BTAudio.

Its not tmobile it the windows bluetooth stack. i have no problems but most people like the widcomm stack because its simple and easy. you should also try a bluetooth stereo headset its good thing to buy if you dont like wired headsets but advise to buy when having extra cash or look for a low price. prices are going down for some reason where i live

I DO have B/T stereo headphones, a pair of Jensens and a pair of IO gear. The latter list for around $150 or more, but a friend bought 2 pair (accidentally) off the 'net for about $35/per. That's what I gave him. The Jensens cost a little more but not much. Both make the HPs look like junk and are far more comfortable.
The problem is in my state it is VERY illegal to wear headphones while you drive. You can wear them on one ear, but not both.
Next, if you use them (not while driving) you are forced to use them as either stereo OR as a mono telephone headset--check the B/T settings.
It never fails to amaze me how if M/S has 5 or 10 choices, they will ALWAYS choose the most difficult to use (and idiosyncratic), the least useful, and the least reliable.

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I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer.
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Thanks, I appreciate your responding.

Kaiser as a bluetooth keyboard ?

Hi All,
Been having a search around, but haven't found anything like this yet. Has anyone seen or know of an app/util that would allow me to use the Kaiser as a bluetooth keyboard for another device (for example, PS3) ?.
Just was thinking about this last night, could be a useful little toy in certain situations ?
Any ideas/pointers ?
Thanks,
M3t.

Well ...
There's another thread in KAISER ACCESSORIES which links to the $29 bluetooth keyboard being sold on Amazon (down from $149 from iGo which the thread starter spent instead).
Since the Tilt keyboard leaves a lot to be desired, perhaps spending this $29 would be more to your liking.
Thread link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350153

Not seen anything like that around, as jdmba says, for the amount of work required to produce an app for it, it would really be of no benefit apart from as you say, a 'Party Piece'
Only thing close I have seen is Rudeo's app that turns your phone into a remote for Windows Media Center/Player. Great in a hotel room when your Media Laptop is connected to the TV.
Soz, hope you have luck.

it require the bluetooth stack supporting that bluetooth profile
and ms bluetooth stack is not that fancy i fear

Wii Remote controlls Tilt

Hey guys, so it just occured to me today, Wii Remote is Bluetooth... Tilt is Bluetooth... you do the math. To me this sounds like a realy good idea but I have not been able to find any thing usefull to make it work once I connect the two, can anyone help me out?

It's been talked over and over, but nobody got anywhere. I personally posted a thread on it a while back but nobody seems to have made any progress since nobody really seems serious about it. The idea itself is very nice however.

It's been done on PC, so yes it's of course possible. But that would be a load of work to port it on WM, and frankly what would you control with a Wiimote on a PPC? Play one day with it to wow your friends and that's it? Not really worth the time and effort...

Well, there's a few obvious drawbacks.
1. No practical IR sensor solution, so pointer's out of the question.
2. The wii-mote's about as big as the phone.
3. Drivers would need to be developed.
However, you'd be able to do the following.
1. Map the buttons to do whatever you want.
2. Play audio through the wiimote(if you so wanted).
3. Have one-touch program launching capabilities without grabbing your phone.
If you ask me, somebody should do it just for the sheer geekiness of it.
And also eventually a PS3 Bluetooth remote too.

There is a posibillity to get this work with few effort. It's a .NET Library which also should work on WM-Phones! Found it on Wiibrew.org or something like that...

would make it awesome for playing games you could play all the snes and megadrive games and it would be sooper cool! and easy to say the least!

not possible.
Wii remote has built in accelerometer.
you can however use the Wii remote as a G-Meter for you car when you hook it up to your laptop.

Elisha said:
not possible.
Wii remote has built in accelerometer.
you can however use the Wii remote as a G-Meter for you car when you hook it up to your laptop.
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That's besides the point; we're wanting just to use it as bt game controller for playing stuff like Mario which afaik doesn't require any accelerometer.
@ kilrah, i would have to disagree with that. It'd be a whole lot of fun using since the bt game pads that are made for PPCs are so lame; i'd be playing on my device a whole lot more if i could use the wiimote.

silversonic1 said:
However, you'd be able to do the following.
1. Map the buttons to do whatever you want.
2. Play audio through the wiimote(if you so wanted).
3. Have one-touch program launching capabilities without grabbing your phone.
If you ask me, somebody should do it just for the sheer geekiness of it.
And also eventually a PS3 Bluetooth remote too.
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1. You already have a large assortment of buttons accessible to program directly on the phone. If you need more buttons than your kaiser has, then just open the keyboard!
2. The wii remote audio is no better sounding than the audio built into the kaiser. Besides, just use your Kaiser to control your audio center on your computer!
3. What will you launch remotely on the phone that you will be able to see from a distance anyway? Seems to me that you would need the phone nearby in order to see what you are controlling anyway.
Total waste of time because there are NO benefits. Just more batteries to charge. No offense for picking on you but I agree with the previous poster. There is no beneficial purpose for trying to use a wii on a kaiser.

Reason for posting
I started this thread cuz i am running NES and GBA games on my TyTAN II and I would love to be able to play using the wii mote. I have been looking into it myself but to be honest I have about as much programming skill as a wet sponge.

Amorphous86 said:
I started this thread cuz i am running NES and GBA games on my TyTAN II and I would love to be able to play using the wii mote. I have been looking into it myself but to be honest I have about as much programming skill as a wet sponge.
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Ive used several bluetooth keyboards that had way too much lag to try to play a game using the directional controls. I somehow doubt that a Wii remote would respond much faster . . . . . . .
Not to be a spoil sport. Hell AFAIK someone has already made the BT on the kaiser responsive enough to use . . . . .

pyraxiate said:
1. You already have a large assortment of buttons accessible to program directly on the phone. If you need more buttons than your kaiser has, then just open the keyboard!
2. The wii remote audio is no better sounding than the audio built into the kaiser. Besides, just use your Kaiser to control your audio center on your computer!
3. What will you launch remotely on the phone that you will be able to see from a distance anyway? Seems to me that you would need the phone nearby in order to see what you are controlling anyway.
Total waste of time because there are NO benefits. Just more batteries to charge. No offense for picking on you but I agree with the previous poster. There is no beneficial purpose for trying to use a wii on a kaiser.
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I beg to differ; if you came from an 8525 to the Tilt, you'll see that the button placement for games is less practical. For the 8525, you could at least have your hands separated at length of the phone so that not everything was crunched; the same can not be said for the Tilt.
How cool would it be to have your Tilt tilted on the desk and you playing a few feet away? Pretty nice imo. To you there might be no benefits, to some of us, it opens a whole new world of gaming

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I beg to differ; if you came from an 8525 to the Tilt, you'll see that the button placement for games is less practical. For the 8525, you could at least have your hands separated at length of the phone so that not everything was crunched; the same can not be said for the Tilt.
How cool would it be to have your Tilt tilted on the desk and you playing a few feet away? Pretty nice imo. To you there might be no benefits, to some of us, it opens a whole new world of gaming
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Admittedly, however you will have to overcome the lag issue . . . . .

What lag issue?

Look 3 posts up
I have had 3 different kaisers and 3 different bluetooth keyboards. Ive tried playing many a game using directional controls on the keyboards and in all 6 combinations , there was too much time between the time i hit the key and the command was interpreted by the kaiser. IE, Controlling Mario in Super Mario brothers using NES emu, if i use the keyboard on the kaiser, mario controlled just fine. When using a bluetooth device mario took approx .5 seconds to start moving after pressing the keys. Thusly, he stopped .5 seconds after the key was depressed or jumped .5 seconds too late.
THIS is the lag i was referring to. I can ONLY assume its because of the lag / latency between a bluetooth device and the bluetooth radio in the kaiser.
ALSO, I tested this with multiple roms and radios, including changing the BT related registry settings.
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This lag may not cause an issue playing puzzle games like tetris ( until you get to the upper levels where reaction time really matters )

Hi I found the link: http://www.codeplex.com/WiiMoB/

hmm, there is such a Program for symbian and nokia n95 etc.
why should it not work on kaiser ???

Bluetooth Mice

Hi all,
I saw a thread (after searching) relating to the upcoming release of.....Blueinput for Widcom broadcom stacks.....whichever one (for HD2)
Is this currently the only way (the beta which apparenltly only 10 peeps got) to get a bluetooth mouse working on our HD2?
I can see it and try to pair it (Im using Razor pro click mobile bluetooth mouse) but it asks for a passkey - the mouse does not require a pass key
I have been playing Quake 3 on my N95 using this same mouse (Oli Hinka release),
Oh god.....its so so so good, Tv out and perfect handling I am actually playing a PC game on my phone with real controlls....
So I thought, yeah this could be even better on my HD2 - but cant even pair it let alone play Quake 3.....
We really really need a version of quake 3 for our devices.....just like the N95 port, a perfect PC clone uses all same data file and allows connection to and creation of Game servers.....(play against PC)
People think that playstation games are the be all, they are great but if anyone played this version of Quake3 from my 3 year old N95 8GB it is simply jaw dropping.
anyway...the purpose of my thread was to get bluetooth mouse going, then I got all excited.
Any ideas on pairing methods?
Kind regards

Nope, and even if you could pair it (I can pair mine, as it has a passcode) you can't do anything with it as there's no mouse driver.

Looks like where just going to have to wait for Teksoft to release the bluetooth drivers for the HD2. Hopefully it wont be long i also am very interested in using my bluetooth mouse and keyboard with my phone. It says it will be available very soon on there forum pages.

Hi !
can i ask a question ?
would you mean that the Teksoft would allow my kb600 (you know the-unable-bluetooth-stuff-to-connect ;-) to work with me leo ?
best regards.
ludovic.

[Q] DIY Car Project

Hi Everyone,
I've been looking all over the net for some answers for a DIY Project i'm trying to do.
Basically I want to have buy either ChromeCast or EzCast and connect to my cars AUX double din head unit to mainly mirror Pandora from my Android Mobile (Sony Xperia Z).
The questions I'm hoping to have answered are the following;
1. Can I use ChromeCast or EzCast in my car without being connected to a wireless hotspot or network? Being a car setup, I wont have a hotspot in my car, unless a LTE/4G Dongle, which I don't intend to.
- Will they work by just directly from my Mobile to the Cast dongle?
2. If mirroring Pandora, will the music or the head units display stop when I turn off my Mobiles display? (I dont want to constantly have my display on as that will drain my battery)
3. Which is better EzCast or ChromeCast Dongles?
If someone would be so kind as to answer the above questions for me, I would be greatly appreciative. :good:
Thanks

Not Chromecast - Chromecast requires Internet connection because it's designed to pull content from the Internet.
No. In the cast of Chromecast, Chromecast itself is the device requesting the stream and playing it. Your controlling device is only a control and can be rebooted, disconnected, turn off, etc.
In this case, given your requirement of not having a hotspot/Internet, I would say not Chromecast. I don't know if EzCast is appropriate, so I'll leave that to others.

bhiga said:
Not Chromecast - Chromecast requires Internet connection because it's designed to pull content from the Internet.
No. In the cast of Chromecast, Chromecast itself is the device requesting the stream and playing it. Your controlling device is only a control and can be rebooted, disconnected, turn off, etc.
In this case, given your requirement of not having a hotspot/Internet, I would say not Chromecast. I don't know if EzCast is appropriate, so I'll leave that to others.
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THIS!
He would be much better off just getting himself an LTE Nexus7, finding a way to mount it that is convenient and wiring it into the Audio system Aux Connection directly or installing a BlueTooth Audio Access point to that aux input that the Tablet or phone can connect to.
Many of today's better Car stereos have an Aux input that will override the input currently selected on the AV unit for use with GPS when it detects an audio signal.
And by dong this you can use the Tablet as a GPS unit as well!
More expensive but you will need the tablet or phone to control the CCast anyway doing what you want to do....
You could just buy a mount that is wired correctly and use your current Phone or Tablet to do this.
Or buy a tablet specifically for this purpose.

Asphyx said:
THIS!
He would be much better off just getting himself an LTE Nexus7, finding a way to mount it that is convenient and wiring it into the Audio system Aux Connection directly or installing a BlueTooth Audio Access point to that aux input that the Tablet or phone can connect to.
Many of today's better Car stereos have an Aux input that will override the input currently selected on the AV unit for use with GPS when it detects an audio signal.
And by dong this you can use the Tablet as a GPS unit as well!
More expensive but you will need the tablet or phone to control the CCast anyway doing what you want to do....
You could just buy a mount that is wired correctly and use your current Phone or Tablet to do this.
Or buy a tablet specifically for this purpose.
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Thank god! Cheers guys for the helpful responses, you just saved me alot of time!
Thing is I have an Alpine INA-W900BT head unit, it has bluetooth, it has GPS, it plays videos(not that I've ever used it lol), reverse camera video and the main thing is it sounds amazing! As an amplifier it reproduces great audio. A tablet can't give you that sound clarity and control with the cars audio system/sub.
Annoying thing is BT audio stream though AUX leaves me with a blank display, so I figure i'll try to "cast" it. Atleast this way I should be able to see pandora on the screen.
Maybe the next car i'll do the Tablet DIY similar to this fellow, don't want to spend to much cash on this right now;
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...xXpXfPR6d9YTlrC62eKMkGw&bvm=bv.69411363,d.c2E
For now, just want to mirror or local cast somehow. You're right though, end of the day I'm still going to have to control it with my phone...
Maybe get a Android Smart Box hmmm....
Does anyone know if Ezcast requires a hotspot?

Why don't you use MHL?

kuri_2k said:
Thank god! Cheers guys for the helpful responses, you just saved me alot of time!
Thing is I have an Alpine INA-W900BT head unit, it has bluetooth, it has GPS, it plays videos(not that I've ever used it lol), reverse camera video and the main thing is it sounds amazing! As an amplifier it reproduces great audio. A tablet can't give you that sound clarity and control with the cars audio system/sub.
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Well unfortunately that unit is made more for Apple not Android....
If you have an Apple device and plug it into USB I believe it will display video for control of the device to the screen. But it seems to be limited to iPod and Music storage and makes no mention of things like Pandora. It would appear from the description that plugging in via USB turns the iPod or iPhone into a storage device that the AV unit then loads files from into it's native music player.
This seems to suggest that no matter what you try to use, you will not get control or anything but a blank screen when streaming it as it will all have to plug in via the Aux (even if you don't go BT).
The limitation is really how do you get the audio into the AV unit..I'm sure it has no HDMI ports on it,
And any Audio Breakout you use is going to connect to an Aux port.
This unit you have appears to be just a generation before mobile data in the car was expected....

kuri_2k said:
1. Can I use ChromeCast or EzCast in my car without being connected to a wireless hotspot or network? Being a car setup, I wont have a hotspot in my car, unless a LTE/4G Dongle, which I don't intend to.
- Will they work by just directly from my Mobile to the Cast dongle?
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Contrary to what has been said, this can be done, or say at least I did it and I am waiting for someone to reproduce my results and confirm.
You can stream from your phone directly to your chromecast, provided you activated the mobile WiFi hotspot of same phone (no need for an external router).
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791313
Please report your results.
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