Broken screen/Scratched housing replacement - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hey,
about a week ago, my kaiser fell out ouf my hand and had it's face slide across ceramic floor while being stepped on. This leaving my LCD screen smashed with a beat up/scratched face.
I have ordered the face, lcd and D-Pad buttons. The only problem is i cannot find anywhere on the web (including this side) how to replace the lcd and case. The closest i came to what i needed was the FCC site, showing the dismantled Kaiser in different peices. No instructions were provided on how to take it apart. Any help?

Check this site out. It has a guide on dismantling the Tilt/Kaiser and can be use as a reference to do what you need done.
Good luck!
BTW, where did you purchase the replacement parts?
http://michael-channon.mobile.spaces.live.com/ent.aspx?h=cns!4472423472DCFC38!287

Beautiful! Thank you.

Nice he got the guide for the kaiser

i cant find a guide that a simpleton like me could use to replace a screen, has anyone done it?

What's so hard about using the guide above??? Don't see what the issue is. If you can't do that then don't even bother opening the device.

thought i'd get that response but i can't afford to go down any other route other than do it myself. does anyone know if you have to follow the whole guide (i.e. seperating the two halves of the kaiser) to get access to the screen? also, i still cant see anything about how to replace the screen, just how to get into the back of the top half of the kaiser, could anyone elaborate on the proceeding actions required?
thanks in advance for all your help,
josh

joshkiddy said:
thought i'd get that response but i can't afford to go down any other route other than do it myself. does anyone know if you have to follow the whole guide (i.e. seperating the two halves of the kaiser) to get access to the screen? also, i still cant see anything about how to replace the screen, just how to get into the back of the top half of the kaiser, could anyone elaborate on the proceeding actions required?
thanks in advance for all your help,
josh
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there are a couple of posts on this site. You also need (although some have suceeded without it) a special plastic hook tool.
Check this out & GOOD LUCK, may the SCHWARTZ be with you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102

joshkiddy said:
does anyone know if you have to follow the whole guide (i.e. seperating the two halves of the kaiser) to get access to the screen?
thanks in advance for all your help,
josh
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Yes you must separate the two halves. There is absolutely no way getting around that.
The guides show you how to remove the screen however it does not show the actual picture of the screen outside the case. The last screen shot in the guide is the very last step you do prior to the screen being lifted out of the casing

no u don't have to seperate it completely when i did it I opened it enough to pop up the lcd and slide it out there are other users that have done the same, it all comes down to preference.

Buttons in wrong place on D-pad (outer keypad)
I bought a replacement D-pad (outer keypad) from http://cnn.cn/shop/index.php. When I received it, I found that the buttons were in different places than the original keypad on my AT&T 8925 Tilt. After installing the replacement keypad, at least the damaged keys are gone, but the stinking buttons are in the wrong place.
In the Settings menu I was able to reassign four of the eight buttons. But I still have four buttons in the wrong place. Unfortunalety this includes the green and red telephone buttons.
My question is, does anyone know where to get a replacement keypad with the correct button layout? For mine to be correct, the green and red phone buttons would be on the top.
Incidentally, I have seen this keypad in some photos of the HTC Kaiser (not newer photos).
Otherwise, if someone knew how to reassign all eight buttons, that would be just as good.
Thanks

hey imasri29 where did you find the replacement case? i did the exact same thing with mine and need a new case!

http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-iikaiserp4450-c-210_297.html

hey cwright. i bought one of those too still waiting for mine. but can you tell me if all of the icons on the buttons lights up.

The guide link no longer works, anyone have an update guide?
UPDATE:
I found this from another thread, looks like he moved everything here from windows live storage and blog:
www.mikechannon.net

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Tilt Screen Problem- HELP Please!!!

Hi guys, i'm a big fan of this site, and I'm glad Im part of it since i can use you guy's great roms and tricks. But I have a big problem with my tilt now and I wanted to see if some of you could help me with it. I bought my tilt from a friend with a broken screen, i bought and replaced the screen myself, but after a day or two, the backlight for the screen wouldn't work. The only working solution i found was by squeezing the phone and pressing on the lower left corner above the green call button so the screen wouldnt turn on while i pressed it. I decided to open it, and i put a piece of paper above the connection of the screen and the flex, and this worked for a while. But ever since, i always have to keep putting in new pieces paper or plastic to keep pressure on the connection for the lcd, i was wondering if you guys would happen to know what the possible cause is. And it is hard because when i put those pieces of papers, the call button on the front has so much pressure that it is permanently pressed. I dont know what to do now, i don't know if i should just give up trying to fix my tilt or to just buy a new one. Hope someone can help me thank you.
damn...41 views and no replies....im guessing i should start looking for a new phone
A thorough clean needed
How about carefully cleaning the flex and connector using contact cleaner? If a connection surface isn't perfectly clean, often pressure is needed to push the terminals through the tiny film of grease (eg from fingerprints).
I'd say you bought a bad quality LCD that has a wacky contact inside the module...
im going to buy contact cleaner..if that doesnt work then it's probably a bad lcd like u guys said even though i paid 100 dollars for it ...thank you very much for the replies
ReYCangri said:
Hi guys, i'm a big fan of this site, and I'm glad Im part of it since i can use you guy's great roms and tricks. But I have a big problem with my tilt now and I wanted to see if some of you could help me with it. I bought my tilt from a friend with a broken screen, i bought and replaced the screen myself, but after a day or two, the backlight for the screen wouldn't work. The only working solution i found was by squeezing the phone and pressing on the lower left corner above the green call button so the screen wouldnt turn on while i pressed it. I decided to open it, and i put a piece of paper above the connection of the screen and the flex, and this worked for a while. But ever since, i always have to keep putting in new pieces paper or plastic to keep pressure on the connection for the lcd, i was wondering if you guys would happen to know what the possible cause is. And it is hard because when i put those pieces of papers, the call button on the front has so much pressure that it is permanently pressed. I dont know what to do now, i don't know if i should just give up trying to fix my tilt or to just buy a new one. Hope someone can help me thank you.
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While replacing the screen you might've shorted something which would then only allow certain function by appling abnormal pressure.

Touch screen not responding after hard reset..hardware problem?

I have searched for solutions for the past 2 days but cant find one, if i missed it or this post is redundant , i apologize in advance.
Now my tilt is driving me crazy. It started last week when The touch screen wasnt working, but i fixed it by doing a couple of soft resets. then all the sudden, everytime i slide my keyboard out, the touch screen would stop responding. this went on for a day, then yesterday, when i tired to use the keyboard, the screen went blank, like the light died or something. but when i put it back on portrait, the screen would light up again.
A few moments later, the touch was responding, tried to use the keypad then the screen went blank..tried soft resets about 5 times and uninstalled all recent added programs (skyfire) ..finally the screen was working but the touch still wasnt working.
So this morning, i had the bright idea to do a hard reset....dumbest idea ever cos now its stuck at the screen where i have to "tap the screen to set up your wm device" and guess what..the touch screen isnt responding
plz i really need help with this. all so , i have a broken tilt.., well lcd screen is cracked...can i try to dismantle both tilts and replace the screens?
Ok, i used Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment, but if i cant use the touch screen or the keyboard, the phone is pretty much useless for sending any information or making calls..is there a way to fix this?
I have had this same issue with my tilt. I could use the scroller on the left side of the unit to navigate but no touch screen. Both times that this has happened to me I removed the screen protector that I had on and restored a backup that I had on my storage card (I run a backup weekly). This has always fixed my issue. You could try another hard reset, not sure if that will help but do you get any lights on the keyboard when you slide it open? Is your tilt less than a year old because there is a manufacturer's warranty too.
Jim
when i slide the keyboard, i do get lights on the keyboard but not on the screen...it just goes dead..but when i slide it back in, the screen comes to life.
I cant do another hard reset cos i have to input the "1,2,3,4" code.
Also , the phone just got out of the 1yr warranty this month...awesome
I want to buy a replacement screen with a new digitizer but i need to be sure that is the problem.. ive searched for this keyboard problem but still have no answers
Now I'm having the same issue, touch not responding. I first noticed it about two days ago, when I slide the keyboard out, I could type just fine, but when I went to send the message the touch screen wouldnt work, so I'd close the keyboard and it would work. well yesterday it stopped working all together, so i used my d-pad and did a sprite restore and it started working again. But then On my way home i hit the lock button, and it stopped working after that, and I couldn't get it unlocked. I used the inner soft key to hit the first part of unlock, but then I couldnt ever figure which button to hit to get the on screen part of the unlock. So I had no choice but to do a hard reset, and just like highoct now I'm stuck on the stylus setup , and the touch still doesnt respond. does anybody esle have any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
Oh yeah, I did manage to do a hard reset again, but now the screen is just white. I can hear the sound of it booting up but it still has a white screen. I tired going to the Bootloader screen ( Camera and power at the same time)...still have the white screen. I believe its a hardware problem but i don't know what it is...any ideas?
Ok now I've done a hard flash, using the same HTC kaiser rom 6.1 and it fixes the problem for a little bit, until the first time I slide out the keyboard , then the screen stops working again, any suggestions ?
iPhone 3G Screen Repair...finally an affordable answer
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
Chill0987 said:
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
Chill0987 said:
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Does this look like an apple website? did i say i had an iphone? GET OUT OF HERE!!!
Ninety Four said:
Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
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And thats his only post, its spam. jerk him outta here
Tilt Touch Screen
highoct said:
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
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I know this thread is a bit old but was searching d forum for possible solutions cos yesterday i developed the same exact problem on my kaiser for no apparent reason!..flashing it hasnt helped and now im stuck on the wm setup screen..when u say u still have the same tilt with the original problem do you mean that the repair was unsuccessful? have you tried reparing it yourself? Thanks
I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
grayfoxmg1 said:
I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
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same thing happened to me 3 days ago. touchscreen has just stopped responding.
it still worked when i slided my keyboard out, but only when it was out. then i realized it won't work at all (!) after soft reset. however, i could make it work again like that when i did the soft reset with the keyboard out. weird.
i tried searching, and decided to make a hard reset, flash a new rom, etc, etc., but no more touchscreen. at all. the device doesn't feel any touch in any case. nothing. i bypassed the beggining tap here with the storage card trick. (i've read it somewhere on the forum).
now i can only use my kaiser with the hw buttons, the keyboard, and that's it. no touch. really weird. please if anyone has any updates, solutions, anything, post. sniff sniff
mine doesn't have anything on the screen unless i slide it out, if i have it closed anymore, it just doesn't work at all.
try this:
ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
se1988 said:
ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
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well, i tried both tips, but they didn't work. i'd like to say a big thanks anyway!
then i grabbed the kaiser service manual and took my device apart into pieces. i reconnected pretty much all the cables and stuff, but still no touchy. any further ideas?
you should try replacing the screen. im happy to say that this screen from this seller on eBay worked for me: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250539984183
look here for dissasembly video: http://www.fonlogix.tv/tiltlow.wmv
(to save it to desktop right click link and "save target as")
thanks for your help, i've just ordered a new screen! phew, i hope it's gonna work

Replacing touch screen on att tilt

I need some help/questioned answered and am hopeful someone here can help
I am trying to replace a broken touch screen on an att tilt but when I replace it with a new screen and turn on the phone, the touch screen doesnt work. Is there something special I need to do? ie software update/hard reset? Or on the touch screen there is the flexable cable the wraps around to the back of the lcd with 4 connectors, is there a special way of attaching it? ie glue? it looks like the old one was just held done with tape, but I did the same thing and am wonderingh if it is connecting. I can upload photos if you dont understand what I talking about.
Please someone/anyone help. all suggestions are greatly welcomed.
I am in a little bit of a rush so I dont know if I explained everything clearly, I hope so
replace lcd
Hi, I replaced mine and there is just a ribbon cable that plugs in...it can be kinda tricky but basically you just line it up and slide it in...Theres a couple of threads on here with detailed instructions you can find by using the search, thats how I learned how to do mine. The only thing I had to do afterwards was the touchscreen alignment function that you normally do when first installing the OS because it seemed my touchscreen was slightly off..after that it was fine.

Hardware problem (buttons), please help.

over the past few weeks some of the buttons (namely left soft key, up and left) have stopped working, i've tried numerous roms just incase but it's definatley a hardware issue, now, i've dismanted the phone using the diamantos guide to see if anything jumps out at me, gave the phone a damn good cleaning whilst i had the chance, put it back together....but nothing, everything seems to be in order, all components in their rightful place but i still cant work it out, does anyone know if this is a common problem or if theres a fix as i've been unsuccessful in my searches.
actually, i just found the solution and it worked a treat, thanks anyway people.
btw, if anyone would like to know what i did then i'll be more than happy to share the solution.
Hi godofwap,
I have the same problem with a trinity I bought used. Tried to stick some papers under the buttons but that didn`t help so I`m very curious how You managed to get them working again. Hope You find the time to write a short notice.
Have some fine days,
FlyBy_1
ok, no problem, heres what i did.
before you start please be aware that this is a very delicate procedure and you should take care as this may naff up your beloved trinity.
ok, i first disassembled my trinity using the dimantos guide located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311463,
now, when you get to the keyboard / button pcb take it out if, you look closely you'll notice theres a thin adhesive plastic cover covering the metalic buttons, very very carefull peel this back (i used a sharp knife to get to it), making sure not to completely remove it, try to only expose the underneath of the buttons in question, you'll see that the buttons come away with the plasic leaving the underneath exposed, now, using a cotton bud and some lightly applied alcohol clean the contacts then when all is done, replace the plastic and make sure its firmly pressed back down you may notice it making a different, kind of sharper clicking noise when depressed than before meaning its worked, repeat for all buttons.
i think whats going on here is the gum or glue from the plastic film has "leaked" if you will, onto the plates meaning theres no contact from the buttons, this would also account for the very slight change in sound when you now press the button.
i found this info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-289737.html
Nice find mate; sounds like a solution for my problem cause when I got my phone the first I had to do was to disassemble and clean the heck outta it, there was dust everywhere as if the old owner had laid it on the moon for a week. But who thought the buttons are actually separatable... strange technique.
Thanks for the hint, at least now I´ve got something to do over the holidays at my parents-in-law
Once again thanks for Your hint.
The problem with mine was actually not dust and stuff between the two halves but too much pressure by the former owner.
After I had separated the plastic film from the board I saw that there were very deep dents where the pick of the metal discs had pushed the soft pcb material down. So I cleaned them anyway and then reapplied the film with an offset of just a fraction of a millimetre so they make perfect contact with the pcb again.
Every single button again works perfectly now

ATT Tilt: Changed broken screen, now touch doesnt work

Hello, I am a true noob so please forgive me if I sound dumb.
I had a broken screen so I bought a new one on Ebay. I changed it perfectly, it looks good but now when I touch the screen it acts like I touched the top left corner (in portrait)no matter where on the screen I touch (so it opens up the "Start" menu). In landscape it acts like I touched the top right so it opens up the drop down menu with all the running programs.
I would really appreciate some help. I try re-aligning the touch screen but it does not recognize any touches at all. I have to soft reset the phone to get out of the re-align program.
I don't want to hard reset because I have read many cases where the phone gets stuck in align program as it is trying to setup and they have to install remote access or something to get around it.
I would like advise on whether it is the new screen or the phone. Is there something I can check for inside or should I send the screen back for a replacement.
Thank you for your help.
Having replaced the touch screen in a Palm with success, I would say that...
You either have a problem with the connector for the screen, recheck the connection
Someone sold you a bad screen.
Something else is wrong with the device.
At this point I don't know that in your position I wouldn't do a hard reset. What is the worst thing that can happen? The device is already broken in it's current state.
Good luck.
Thank you
Thank you very much for your help. I will try the connector. if it does not look damaged then I will return the screen.
Did you replace just the screen itself, or the screen and the digitizer? More than likely your digitizer is broken aswell. If you replaced them as a set, request a new one from wherever you got it, and if you just replaced the LCD, then you need to buy a digitizer aswell.
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Did you replace just the screen itself, or the screen and the digitizer? More than likely your digitizer is broken aswell. If you replaced them as a set, request a new one from wherever you got it, and if you just replaced the LCD, then you need to buy a digitizer aswell.
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Well, I only received the screen. I cant figure out where the digitizer is on the tilt so I don't know if I changed it or not. Does any body have any picture??
I think I read somewhere that it all comes as one piece(the screen and digitizer), but I can't confirm it.
Indeed they most of the time do come as one peice, so if your connection is good on the mobo, then I would say that the digitizer you recieved is bad. The digitzier is the super thin peice of glass that covers the LCD screen.

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