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Thumb-friendly keyboard (PocketCM alternative)?

PocketCM is good, but I'm looking for something better. Even though PocketCM doesn't require a stylus, I'm still having a horrible time typing with it.
What I'm looking for is a thumb-friendly, on-screen keyboard that'll take advantage of predictive text to allow larger buttons. Something like the Blackberry Pearl keyboard (1 or 2 letters per key), or even the traditional phone pad (with 3-4 letter per key) would be enough.
Anyone have a suggestion?

cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find

Johnston411 said:
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
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Thanks! Searching now.

Here's the link to Cootek Touchpal, its the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334437

Did you spell it right? A search revealed nothing...
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Got link, thanks!

Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?

Flapjack said:
Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
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hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.

gadgetluva said:
hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about it:
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.

It's not for one thumb but Spb Full Screen keyboard is the best I've used. I actully don't use the Kaiser keyboard and type 3 times faster with Spb. Also try Tengo its a one thumb kb with big keys.

Touchpal is nice ive used it before.. Im still waiting for PocketCM to release a newer versions as i had some issues with the current version..
As for another one, I flashed my Tilt to the AKU cooked rom thats floating around the forums and there is actually a SIP that is a phone pad that supports T9 input and I find it very handy and works well for one handed operations!

Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.

try to go to the htc asia website and download the official phone pad from HTC! I really find it useful!!

where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?

gimini said:
where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
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Here;
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...Page=searchResults&id=prod5702026&sf=48190044

thank you. you guys are always so fast to help

If you buy the PRO version you can do that
This is the website:
http://www.cootek.com/index.html
srmz said:
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
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What about Resco Keyboard ?

Flapjack said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!

Well, now that I've been using it for a while, I have several big problems. I don't know who to blame (M$ or Cootek), but here they are:
1) The program will only work if I use it in conjunction with sipchange. Once I do that, I cannot select any other keyboard. They come up in the choice list, but if I select them, nothing happens. So I'm stuck with it. If I'm using the stylus, I prefer the standard windows keyboard, which is why this is an issue
2) The program does not go down and stay down. Unlike the standard windows keyboard, TouchPal is always popping up in your face. It drives me nuts, as I only seem to actually need it 1/4 of the time it decides to pop up. It seems to take 2-3 times minimizing it for it to finally stay down... and when it does, it can pop up again for absolutely no reason.
3) It may be the most the most intuitive keyboard, but it's still not very "finger-friendly". I don't consider myself to have unusually large hands, but I still cannot reliably hit the right key every time, even when I'm careful. Another thing it will do is detect a capital letter (diagonal motion) when I very clearly touched it without a swipe. Not sure why this is...
I'm still in search of something better....
princeasi said:
yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
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gabriel31337 said:
What about Resco Keyboard ?
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I'm curious about the same thing. I love the Fx mode that the Resco keyboards offer.

MagiKB

http://www.mobiion.com/magikblite.html
I am using this, I have to say it is much much better when using the hard keys. No need to press Shift or Control anymore! Like typing on the Treo...
It was a chore setting up the key mapping, but it works perfectly afterwards.
Let me know if anyone want the key map to Att Tilt.

I have been looking for the key mapping forever for this app
please post the keymap for the ATT Tilt for the MagiKB 1.1 program. I came from a Treo 750 to a Tilt and it was the one program that I missed using (did NOT wanna set up all the mapping - wasn't quite sure how). Thanx

Looks nice really.

great program - please post the mapping

+1 post the mapping!!!

Att Tilt Keymap
Well, here is the key maps.
Please note, I am using a ATT TILT, with OEM ROM, without the Cingular addons, but if yours is not a TILT, then you might need a corresponding key map set up if the hardkeys are different from the TILT.
Also, I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself....
Install MagiKB first, then move this .lay file to your My Documents\MagiKB Lite folder. Then you can select the key map from MagiKB program.

thanks a lot - a great help

Could you please re-post the tilt keymap download link. Other link doesn't seem to be working. Thanks for the hard work on it.
EDIT: Sorry, got it. Thanks again.

you mentioned there's a difference between the Tilt? Would there be a difference to stock Kaiser then?

I have an ATT Tilt, so I don't know if the keyboard layout is exactly the same as an Unbranded Kaiser (I don't have a unbranded kaiser to look at).
If the keyboard layout is the same, then the key map should work.

Nevermind. It works.

Does anyone know how to capture the key for the left arrow/comma on the tilt? I would like to map it to the comma, but it's not in this key map file.

Adding additional key mapping to MagiKB ?
alc630 said:
. . . I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself. . .
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Solved/ignore; Can you explain how to map the directional arrow keys and their Fn counterparts? I like the way MagiKB simplifies capitalization and the Number Pad especially, but would like the WIN key mapped to "CTRL" - makes copy, cut and paste much easier.

alc630 said:
Well, here is the key maps.
Please note, I am using a ATT TILT, with OEM ROM, without the Cingular addons, but if yours is not a TILT, then you might need a corresponding key map set up if the hardkeys are different from the TILT.
Also, I set up the key mapping so that only the keys with LETTERS will be used (when holding down, or double clicking). That means, for the symbol "," and "." and "$" you will still have to press the Fn key.
I can always change the mapping to whatever suits you, or you can do it yourself....
Install MagiKB first, then move this .lay file to your My Documents\MagiKB Lite folder. Then you can select the key map from MagiKB program.
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OMG, this has got to be the best tip ever!
Entering items such as the "?" were always the one thing I hated about the keyboard (I came from a Treo 750). Now thanks to you I LOVE the keyboard
Thank you very much!
Thanks again!!

No problem, I came from a Treo 650, so the Tilt's keyboard bothered me too. This makes the transition to a Tilt so much smoother.
About the key maps, I am currently away from the country and unable to play with the keymaps, but I will be back home in 2 weeks.
I might get a chance to play with it here, in which case I'll post an update.
Sorry!

Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?

cutoffcirc said:
Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?
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Works with no problem on my HTC Kaiser (Dutty's WM 6.1 Final)

cutoffcirc said:
Anyone tried Magikb with WM 6.1? Installs, looks fine, but none of the commands work. Am I missing something?
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After installation, select a proper key map from menu or edit the current key map.

Hi:
I was using this layout and program and LOVED it. The only problem is that after upgrading to WM6.1 (official ATT), The layout will no longer appear, when I go to select a layout.
Any suggestions?
Thanks so much!!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
I was using this layout and program and LOVED it. The only problem is that after upgrading to WM6.1 (official ATT), The layout will no longer appear, when I go to select a layout.
Any suggestions?
Thanks so much!!
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Yeah because the layout was stored in My Documents\MagiKB Lite in phone memory by upgrading to wm6.1 you deleted that folder with the layout in it.
Download the layout again and put it to the above-mentioned folder.

Hardware-keyboard problem

I really searched for hours in the forum but i didn't find a solution for my problem:
When I press the shift key to write a capital letter and then start writing a word the first two letters are typed capital if i type to fast. Is there a possibility to fix that?

Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc

Hey there, thank you for your help. I just installed duttythroy_Disable_xt9.cab and did a soft reset. But it didn't change anything (perhaps because i have WM6.1 german?). What exactly does the file do?

KDKobes said:
Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc
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Perfect. Fixed my issues.

i still couldn't find a solution for my problem. isn't there a possibility to decrease the response time from the keyboard? this bug is really annoying to me so i'd really appreciate any kind of help.

me20714 said:
i still couldn't find a solution for my problem. isn't there a possibility to decrease the response time from the keyboard? this bug is really annoying to me so i'd really appreciate any kind of help.
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Make sure you have disablext9 cab installed and make sure you turn OFF cleartype in PIE AND LANDSCAPE MODE.

KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!

JimmyMcGee said:
KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!
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lol Jimmy i think that has become your signature style of communicating that

KDKobes said:
Make sure you have disablext9 cab installed and make sure you turn OFF cleartype in PIE AND LANDSCAPE MODE.
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thank you for your help. i installed the disablext9 cab. i did a softreset. cleartype in PIE and landscape mode is turned off too (checked this and the xt9 status with kaisertweak). is the problem perhaps related to wm 6.1 (german)?

JimmyMcGee said:
KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!
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thank you for your help too. but i wrote it before and i write it here again for you:
I ALREADY DISABLED XT9!

KDKobes said:
Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc
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might just be me but i cant get onto your cabs at first it was takin a while now i just get an error....is this file mirror'd anywhere else?

Humz said:
might just be me but i cant get onto your cabs at first it was takin a while now i just get an error....is this file mirror'd anywhere else?
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Works fine for me. It is quite possible I was uploading something at the time which would have caused it. Try it again or below.

me20714 said:
thank you for your help too. but i wrote it before and i write it here again for you:
I ALREADY DISABLED XT9!
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Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.
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I'm being much more deliberate in my typing now because I do type too fast for the keyboard, even with the XT9 disabled.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.
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That is what I'm doing since i have my TyTNII. I was hoping for a better solution because imho the purpose of a qwerty keyboard is speeding up typing. Sometimes I'm a little dissapointed from the device (regarding video drivers, the keyboard, misc. bugs, ... not this great for about 800 bucks). So i think I'll wait for the Touch Pro and take a exact look on it before buying and if there's the same problem, i think i'll go for the diamond (cheaper and smaller anyways). Made some good experiences with TouchPal softkeyboard.
I really appreciate your help and thank you for spending time for my problem. This goes out to KDKobes too.

how to change to landscape mode?

The phone can change to landscape mode in browser and photo viewer when i rotate it. But i don't know how to change it in other application, any ideas??

I don't think you can without some other addon program.

go to settings, system, screen, and its there?

I have checked there is nothing related to screen orientation under screen setting

ngod said:
I have checked there is nothing related to screen orientation under screen setting
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no its not there... the accelleromoter isnt working i dont think, its supposed to autodetect the screen roatation...

ngod said:
The phone can change to landscape mode in browser and photo viewer when i rotate it. But i don't know how to change it in other application, any ideas??
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According to the guy at coolsmartphone, it only works in the photo and web browser apps.

He clearly said he can change it in browser and photos. His accelerometer is fine. What he wants to know is how to manually rotate the screen in apps that don't support the accelerometer.

someone1234 said:
He clearly said he can change it in browser and photos. His accelerometer is fine. What he wants to know is how to manually rotate the screen in apps that don't support the accelerometer.
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And as i pointed out above, it doesnt work unless your in the photo browser or web browser applications.
Im pretty sure given time, just like the Nokia N95 8gb which has a built in accelerometer, someone will program an app that woudl allow you to rotate the screen no matter what application or program you are running. At the moment on my N95 8GB phone, i have a neat little program called rotateme that does that function.

someone1234 said:
He clearly said he can change it in browser and photos. His accelerometer is fine. What he wants to know is how to manually rotate the screen in apps that don't support the accelerometer.
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And as i pointed out above, it doesnt work unless your in the photo browser or web browser applications.
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The word manual is crucial here. Windows Mobile devices can have the screen rotated manually, in the settings. The accelerometer has nothing to do with that.

Wow what a mess...
Spawn12: My comment was directed at 'walshieau', not you. He suggested his accelerometer was broken.
Dark Fire: Yeah that option isn't there on the diamond. The guy one coolsmartphone tried to look for it in one of the videos. 'ngod' also can't see it. Thats why i said you'd need some third party hack/program to do it.

someone1234 said:
Yeah that option isn't there on the diamond. The guy one coolsmartphone tried to look for it in one of the videos. 'ngod' also can't see it. Thats why i said you'd need some third party hack/program to do it.
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Wow...That's quite rare. I wonder if the relevant registry entries are still there, and working. If they are, that's good. If they aren't that's really random.

Dark Fire said:
Wow...That's quite rare. I wonder if the relevant registry entries are still there, and working. If they are, that's good. If they aren't that's really random.
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Just a guess, but maybe it freaked out their accelerometer/flor3d stuff so they just removed it. I'm sure the registry entries and API are still there to do it tho.

Dark Fire said:
The word manual is crucial here. Windows Mobile devices can have the screen rotated manually, in the settings. The accelerometer has nothing to do with that.
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Sorry my bad, didnt see the word manual there lol.

Spawn12 said:
...At the moment on my N95 8GB phone, i have a neat little program called rotateme that does that function...
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Off Topic, but if you update to the latest N95 firmware it's officially built in now...

sub69 said:
Off Topic, but if you update to the latest N95 firmware it's officially built in now...
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Yep your right, i updated mine a week ago and it does come with the rotate function built in...took them long enough to enable it lol.

ok an update, it ONLY works while you have opera browser open, and there is NO WAY to change it at the moment without an application doing it...

someone1234 said:
Just a guess, but maybe it freaked out their accelerometer/flor3d stuff so they just removed it. I'm sure the registry entries and API are still there to do it tho.
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Yeah, I've been wondering for a while about what would happen in Opera and whatever else is affected by the accelerometer, if you had the Touch Diamond in landscape mode. Would everything rotate such that it would never be the right way up for you to read it?

Dark Fire said:
Yeah, I've been wondering for a while about what would happen in Opera and whatever else is affected by the accelerometer, if you had the Touch Diamond in landscape mode. Would everything rotate such that it would never be the right way up for you to read it?
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yes it does, when closing Opera it reverts back...

AE Button Plus
AE button plus can do it when not in touchflo 3D . tested.
you can assign a hard button to rotate the screen.

ok i cant believe no one knows this but htc have disabled the screen rotation. has nothing to do with the g sensor. its disabled bc touchflo3d has been developed only for portrait and not landscape. other apps like the youtube app have also been designed for that. the manilla keyboard on the diamond has also been designed pretty much only for portrait. it just has a landscape qwerty layout.
its ment to be like the iphone where its portrait most of time. if you can overwrite the files within the windows folder im pretty sure u can bring it back. might be some registry too.

Unfortunately hit "send"

Hallo
I'm tired of all the the time hitting "send" by mistake when I'm typing a sms.
Does there exist a tweak so you need to hold the send bottom in for a while for it to send? So you can't press it quick..

The right notice
I have suffered from this when using extra thingie to enter (exotic) estonian letters like äüöõšž and if the device slows down a bit there (it happened just few times) then I notice that I unfortunately have pressed Send because the softbutton just had another function

darfri said:
I have suffered from this when using extra thingie to enter (exotic) estonian letters like äüöõšž and if the device slows down a bit there (it happened just few times) then I notice that I unfortunately have pressed Send because the softbutton just had another function
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So ? What is your solution ?

mysterd said:
So ? What is your solution ?
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Turn off TF3D! ;O)

Better solution:
FingerKeyboard 2.1 (search in Forum)
1. You get a better keyboard.
2. If you want, the keyboard covers the windows bar including the button "Send". You have to tap the keyboard away to push "Send". Works like a charm.

Jim Coleman said:
Turn off TF3D! ;O)
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I just can't see the point in this...
The problem is with the softkey bar... Why do you suggest turning off TF3D ?

Tatsch said:
Better solution:
FingerKeyboard 2.1 (search in Forum)
1. You get a better keyboard.
2. If you want, the keyboard covers the windows bar including the button "Send". You have to tap the keyboard away to push "Send". Works like a charm.
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Interesting
Thanks for your help !

mysterd said:
So ? What is your solution ?
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What is yours?

Don't use the 3DFO message. Simple as that.
I never use that, just the built in outlook to send text messages.
In fact I disabled the 3Dflo plugin in today and I'm using right now the standard today with all the plugins that I want.

rogeriopcf said:
Don't use the 3DFO message. Simple as that.
I never use that, just the built in outlook to send text messages.
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And there, you don't have a windows bar with a "Send"-Button? Strange ...