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. So this is the deal, I originally had an ATT Tilt. I had no problems! I synched though active sync, via bluetooth and over air with no issues. Two days ago I got a Fuze, I was ecstatic, but then my camera became disabled and I consistently could not access my storage card. The message actually came up saying that my "camera has been diabled for security reasons". WTF is that? I have hard reset the phone about ten times now and everytime before I set up exchange everything works beautifully, but after I have no camera and no sd card. Is this a known problem or is my Fuze busted? Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it possible that this is a policy in your company being enforced by your IT dept via your exchange server?
Believe me, I've discussed this extensively with my IT department and they haven't made any changes to their exchange server policies. They have the same question I have! If the companies Tilts are all working with the same OS what hardware changes in the Fuze could create such an issue relative to their existent server policies?
Update! I also tested this on a co-worker's Sprint HTC Touch Pro and got the same results. He had to hard reset his phone to get full functionality again! My IT dept says that our server links to an https site if thats relevant to anyone. I'm not technically versed in that area. Hopefully someone has had a similar issue, and potential workaround?????
Its almost going to have to be coming from a setting on your Exchange server at work. See the attached screen shot. All of those settings are configurable on the server. Once you connect, it automatically downloads whatever policies are in effect. This screen shot is from an Exchange 2007 server. I no longer have a 2003 server but it is similar.
Hmmmm....
Man, your awesome! I think IT was BS-ing me a bit, or they haven't bothered to check the settings themselves. I'm gonna break some necks and find out if these settings are the issue. Either way I'll report back my findings.
GarethD said:
Man, your awesome! I think IT was BS-ing me a bit, or they haven't bothered to check the settings themselves. I'm gonna break some necks and find out if these settings are the issue. Either way I'll report back my findings.
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They probably weren't BSing you. They probably haven't touched those settings since configuring the server. The Tilt has a different version of mobile office which probably wasn't compatible with and subsequently ignored those settings.
zenyaa stayunlock cab -- search for it, install it, THEN sync w/exchange (may require hard reset to kill existing settings)
I installed zenyaa stay unlock before syncing accidentally after a hard reset and i never even got prompted for pin's.. hopefully it'll ignore the other restrictions too...
Keep in mind, this may be against the law for some companies, use responsibly.
zenyaa!
I like the potential. For now however, I have flexed some executive privilege and got my settings changed. I got everything enabled except wi-fi. , but they are paying for my media plan so no real worries there. I will look into zenya though, it seems ridiculous to ask for normal features on a smart phone, but I guess my IT department is restriction crazy. Thank you all for your input, this issue is technically resolved for me.
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I like the potential. For now however, I have flexed some executive privilege and got my settings changed. I got everything enabled except wi-fi. , but they are paying for my media plan so no real worries there. I will look into zenya though, it seems ridiculous to ask for normal features on a smart phone, but I guess my IT department is restriction crazy. Thank you all for your input, this issue is technically resolved for me.
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From an IT view, it's a huge security risk having a device that you cannot regulate on your network. Not allowing removable storage might be a little much though, especially if they allow you to have usb flash drives. I wouldn't allow wireless at all though, regardless of who requested it.
To an extent, I agree with you.
In this specific case however, I think my IT could/should have been more forthcoming about their mobile polices. That would have made me more specific in my search for a new business phone. I could have gotten something with less features based on policy. That being said, I think it was more a reluctance to hear criticism from a non-IT person than it was to adjust the default settings. With the exception of Wi-Fi (for probably the reasons you stated!), there was no real issue in changing my settings.
Do you have a slingbox and mobile sling software for your windows mobile phone? Well it seems at&t thinks the iphone is a computer and not a phone and has put a stop to 3g access for slingplayer on the iphone.
According to this wired article released last week:
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/05/slingplayer-iphone-app-crippled-by-apple-att/
As far as AT&T is concerned, the iPhone is not a phone. It’s a computer.
“Applications like this, which redirect a TV signal to a personal computer, are specifically prohibited under our terms of service,” stated AT&T. “We consider smartphones like the iPhone to be personal computers in that they have the same hardware and software attributes as PCs.”
However, this policy is obviously inconsistent. Owners of the Samsung Blackjack, Motorola Q, Blackberry, and other smartphones are able to stream Slingbox content over AT&T’s 3G network. Only Sling’s iPhone app is crippled in this way.
I worry that at&t will limit access on windows mobile phones as well like my tilt as I use my slingbox alot from my phone.
Jim
If so then just tunnel the info via SSH and a linux box on your network. It's encrypted and tunneled.
I do have a linux box (FC10) on my network here at the house, but not sure how I would tunnel the connection from my phone.
I found a program called zatunnel
zaTunnel is SSH tunnel and port forwarding for Pocket PC. Tunneling, or port forwarding, is a way to forward otherwise insecure TCP traffic through SSH Secure Shell for Workstations
Will fool with this.
Thanks
Jim
I'll try that program out, I've been using Putty for WM, which is complicated.
I was able to install the program and connect to my linux server but was not able to do anything else from there. Still fooling with it...
Jim
Do you know how to make tunnels?
My suggestion is to make the tunnels to the ports that the slingbox uses and then somehow you have to tell the slingbox to look at the IP "localhost"
Yeah not sure thats possible to do what your saying. I was able to connect to my local server with this program but I get nothing on my tilt saying I am connected. When I grep the logs on my linux box it shows me connected. If I pull up a browser and connect to localhost it tells me this is a proxy and no web content has been setup yet. I thought maybe it was because I have ssh running on a port other than 22, so I connected to another server that I have which runs on 22 and I get the same results.
I guess its time to head over to the software forum and do a request for an application that will do this for us. Not only will it will useful for the slingbox but just about anything else too.
Jim
I wouldn't think that you can get something other then a connection. Use the WM Putty and you will get the terminal to type in as well as the tunnels being open.
How does sling player work?
Does it have an ip and some ports that you open in your router?
Does it have an application to use?
If so.
You can close the ports and then make a tunnel to that IP/port, and hopefully in the app you can direct it to locahost/port instead of your xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx IP for your home.
I use this method for VPN all the time. I really only have port 22 open on my router.
Chumley, Check your pm.
Jim
Rumor has it that AT&T is developing their own software that does the same thing Slingplayer does, so it's no surprise that they're crippling the competition with some BS explanation that the iPhone is a PC. That's ridiculous. However, there's a simple way around using 3G for the Slingplayer if you have a jailbroken iPhone. All ya ned is to visit Cydia and download "Tricker 3G". That's it. The stream is awesome and as far as AT&T trying to cripple users I hope Apple goes to Verizon or another carrier in the future because it's actions like this that make me hate being an AT&T customer.
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Dave
Does anyone know of any IAX2 Client VOIP software for the Dream Google G1
IAX2 Cuts through the firewalls just like skype does so its reliably easy for when you are on the go to be able to connect with less hassle (unlike SIP mucking around with forward ports)
Could I not port some sort of IAX2 client from some Linux project or has someone already done this?
I am on the road allot and encounter many different types of wifi networks. I carry a laptop now with a headset and connect where ever I can to check messages and make calls sometimes even receive some. I love the fact that my small business runs asterisks allowing me to use many different voip providers (that use sip or IAX2) I have 2 numbers in bound giving me 4 different channels of call into a cheap $12 a month professional phone system. I even recently been using a provider that gives me $0.00348 cents a min for Canadian outbound.
(I scoured the threads for keywords like trixbox, asterisks, IAX, IAX2, Elastics, freepbx and was unable to find any serious discussion on this)
Why do you need to forward ports for SIP? Just keep a connection open to the SIP server and it will signal you there.
I use to spend most of my free time in my car trying to get a open connection then attempting to get my sip client to connect to my home server. A pain in the butt. When it worked its nice to get your voicemails and heck catch a call once in a while pickup a job on the run. Even make all your calls if you got a clear enough connection.
Seems they make it easy to connect to your sip provider but when it comes to your own asterisk server at home you have to fight with the provider. Sympatic o seems to block the rtp ports or disrupt the communication in some way allowing only the sip 5060 ports to connect make the phone ring but not let you talk. they play all sorts of games. It worked fine up to march 2008 when all thr providers (big boys Rogers Sympatico) Upgraded to the world of packet level control. Things got fun from there. All home extension to business PBX's I setup for clients stopped working with no changes. (all sorts of different providers spead out around ontario)
I was one of the few voip asterisk consultants till voip started to take off
Does not matter if you manage to prove it and make it past the supastars ( ISP tech the PBX is on or client is connected with)to someone who actually has some control or packet level understanding to clear you a route to your home box. Unless you pay for static ip your ip will change (bell charges a ransom for a static ip) I also noticed if you setup a pbx in a major data center they seem to have a clear route. but anything DSL or Business Cable type connection there is something wrong .that use to work for 2 years prior.
Not to mention what ever router you seem to connect with might not pass things proper .
IAX2 is a dream come true it is supported by many providers and cuts through all the mess of games and such using only one port thats not tcp but udp and slices through your average router and provider with no hassle just like skype but with the freedom of your own setup. the jitter controls work wounders compared to SIP giving you a better voip experience when your wireless.
skype is very limited and very controlled when it comes to receiving calls and sending them especially when you travel.
I am not here to argue with anyone over the finer points of the more common sip. but unless I run a vpn (using sip) IAX2 is the simplest breath of fresh air in the world of voip especially if your savvy enough to build your own asterisk server and would like to take advantage of all sorts of voip providers in one box. Or heck hook one of your clients up hassle free to his Business/home phone system you setup for them.
I really just want to know if anyone has a decent IAX2 client for the G1
If you want to argue VOIP head over to voip-info.org [remove this space] /wiki/view/IAX
so i guess no software for iax2 clients.
Any ware I can pay someone to write one?
Nice found a project...
thought I would update anyone who is interested!
code.google.com/p/androvoip/wiki/Roadmap
I would be interested in such a software. However this project doesn't look very active at the moment.
warenlikesfreedom said:
so i guess no software for iax2 clients.
Any ware I can pay someone to write one?
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Have you tried Zoiper? it supports both of SIP & IAX2 .... wwwDOTzoiperDOTcom
Up until recently, the corporation I work for only authorized blackberry devices to sync with the exchange servers. They've just recently started allowing iPhones and certain android devices to do the same.
On the corp intranet page that deals with this it explains that once you setup activesync a phone lock passcode is required, screen timeout of less than 15min is required, and 5 incorrect passcode attempts, lost/stolen, or something like leaving the company will result in a wipe that will affect non work related data loss as well. The next sentence then says that if it can't be wiped remotely it is the employee's responsibility to do so.
I don't know if some of that wording is from the blackberry only days or what.
If I were to go ahead and get authorization for this, would setting up an activesync with the corporation exchange server really allow them to wipe my phone, including personal data? Would it really make my phone require a passcode and limit my screen timeout all by just syncing?
I just don't know what kind of control simply setting up an activesync account is really possible.
I hate using our web access bc it requires and id and 2 passwords and even though I can use lastpass to make that easier its still slow/inconvenient.
I don't want to ask IT about all this bc I don't want them to think I'm trying to get around the system or give me an incorrect answer (fortune 100 company, they deal with a lot and don't know everything about everything ).
One of the features introduced in Froyo with Exchange/ActiveSync support was remote wipe. I believe they'll have no problem wiping your phone, unless you disconnect that account first.
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One of the features introduced in Froyo with Exchange/ActiveSync support was remote wipe. I believe they'll have no problem wiping your phone, unless you disconnect that account first.
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I'm actually less concerned with wiping than I am with being forced (by that I mean them somehow enforcing my settings such that I can't make my screen timeout longer than 15min or have to use a passcode to come out of sleep). I've never lost a phone and am willing to deal with consequences of not having a damn unlock code. I just don't want my phone to be locked into particular settings. Hope that makes sense.
Hi there,
After the advice of John on this thread
https://groups.google.com/a/googlep...forums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
I finally got passed the boot loop after another attempt. I am travelling in China and this country is so beautiful that I could not stand living without a camera. So I simply tried again and it worked. (I have a software VPN that helps to reach the Google servers).
So I have setup a hosted network on my Windows 10 device with the VPN on it and went ahead with the install.
It went all fine (a bit longer as the packets have to transit via San Fransico hardware VPN hosted by VPN Express) however once I'm on the "Verifying your account" page, I enter my email and it grays out in the wait of completion but it rolls and rolls, it never ends.
I have searched on Google search engine about documentation to fix that quick and I ended in an ocean of people running around like headless chickens, sake oil dealers etc etc. So what's all these hurdles about this FPR thing???
I am scared.
I am in china and my phone helps me to get around.
It's now a useless paper weight.
What if I end up in a trap because I asked some people for my way and I get hurt? Am I allowed to blame the new fancy "security" policies?
PLEASE HELP ME FAST - I NEED URGENT ASSISTANCE - I will be refreshing my email every 30mns from now.
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Hi there,
After the advice of John on this thread
https://groups.google.com/a/googlep...forums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
I finally got passed the boot loop after another attempt. I am travelling in China and this country is so beautiful that I could not stand living without a camera. So I simply tried again and it worked. (I have a software VPN that helps to reach the Google servers).
So I have setup a hosted network on my Windows 10 device with the VPN on it and went ahead with the install.
It went all fine (a bit longer as the packets have to transit via San Fransico hardware VPN hosted by VPN Express) however once I'm on the "Verifying your account" page, I enter my email and it grays out in the wait of completion but it rolls and rolls, it never ends.
I have searched on Google search engine about documentation to fix that quick and I ended in an ocean of people running around like headless chickens, sake oil dealers etc etc. So what's all these hurdles about this FPR thing???
I am scared.
I am in china and my phone helps me to get around.
It's now a useless paper weight.
What if I end up in a trap because I asked some people for my way and I get hurt? Am I allowed to blame the new fancy "security" policies?
PLEASE HELP ME FAST - I NEED URGENT ASSISTANCE - I will be refreshing my email every 30mns from now.
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There are a few options you can take (if you have an unlocked bootloader). The quickest would be to simply delete the SetupWizard apk from TWRP.
Another option is to download and flash a ROM without Google Apps (make sure to download the camera apk of your choice- whether it be Snap or Google Camera).
Finally, you could try another VPN service (or server).
Go to a country that allows Google services to be used, or simply be patient as the VPN is apparently the problem. Your last two questions are likely rhetorical, but if you end up in a trap and get hurt it's your fault, not Google's. So no, you can't blame them for their Factory Reset Protection.
The "issue" with FRP is a simple one. It requires knowing the last Google account used and its password. This affects two different groups of people: those with "burner" accounts, and resellers.
In the case of the burner accounts people create a Google account with a password and don't bother to remember it because they don't want to give any information to Google. Then when they have to reset their devices for whatever reason FRP kicks in and they're screwed. Since they don't know the Google account or password they can't get back into the device.
The resellers purchase used devices and try to move them. However the person selling the device often does not clear out the account information from the device or does not remove the device from their account. When the device is sold the new owner attempts to enter their information and gets tripped up by FRP as they don't have the last Google account and its password.
"Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster. Resellers are a bit more careful, and instances of FRP on a used device from a reseller have gone down.
negusp said:
There are a few options you can take (if you have an unlocked bootloader). The quickest would be to simply delete the SetupWizard apk from TWRP.
Another option is to download and flash a ROM without Google Apps (make sure to download the camera apk of your choice- whether it be Snap or Google Camera).
Finally, you could try another VPN service (or server).
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Thanks for these options!
Yes, good old TWRP... Good option however since the phone is not rooted it would require a way to root it via fastboot flash, and also a way to push TWRP the same way.
I would perhaps rather downgrade to 6.0 or even 5.0 to see if I get lucky.
I could also buy a new phone here but the pricings are rather prohibitive and the models they have would be of no use outside of China.
I have tried mucking around with other VPNs today, it allowed me to go one or 2 steps further but the procedure finally s+++t itself in the end.
I should be in Vietnam tomorrow so hopefully the local telecom towers will allow me to finish my install....
I have no idea how i'm going to tell the taxi driver that I need to go to the train station without a portable system like an android phone, time is a bit short to chase down a paper dictionary.
If you still have some more leads on your TWRP methods that would solve this, please post ahead. I have no guarantees that Vietnam will solve this at this point in time.
Cheers mate.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Go to a country that allows Google services to be used, or simply be patient as the VPN is apparently the problem. Your last two questions are likely rhetorical, but if you end up in a trap and get hurt it's your fault, not Google's. So no, you can't blame them for their Factory Reset Protection.
The "issue" with FRP is a simple one. It requires knowing the last Google account used and its password. This affects two different groups of people: those with "burner" accounts, and resellers.
In the case of the burner accounts people create a Google account with a password and don't bother to remember it because they don't want to give any information to Google. Then when they have to reset their devices for whatever reason FRP kicks in and they're screwed. Since they don't know the Google account or password they can't get back into the device.
The resellers purchase used devices and try to move them. However the person selling the device often does not clear out the account information from the device or does not remove the device from their account. When the device is sold the new owner attempts to enter their information and gets tripped up by FRP as they don't have the last Google account and its password.
"Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster. Resellers are a bit more careful, and instances of FRP on a used device from a reseller have gone down.
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Not Google's fault? Lets unpack this one... I am a council fixing up a foot path. The engineers have let a slight gap in the concrete due to a fabrication method process. If you trip and hurt yourself it's your fault yeah?
Secondo, it's not Google's job to make my phone safe from thieves, it's mine. Why in hell would they make my life complicated because some idiots spends $2000 on a phone a forget it in a taxi, I don't want to have to do all these things, I just want my phone to be able to be serviced easily. and especially if i'm in a critical area, my safety is more important than these people's concerns about thieves. An the cherry on the pie is that today with the cloud sync technology, who cares in the first place.
""Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster." Mate, look up the word disaster's definition from the dictionary and see if it applied to a chum that has got his phone stolen and get back to me with that.
Kind regards
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]Not Google's fault? Lets unpack this one... I am a council fixing up a foot path. The engineers have let a slight gap in the concrete due to a fabrication method process. If you trip and hurt yourself it's your fault yeah?
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It's not Google's fault as you have alternative options you could take. For instance, a dedicated GPS receiver from Garmin or Tom Tom. I keep both a Garmin GPS and a street atlas in my car as a backup to my N6 and I live stateside. Should I encounter an issue, I have a means to get where I need to go. It's called "being prepared".
Your argument is a strawman argument, because Google's Android software is working as intended. Your argument might have more weight if there was a bug in the software that prevented you from using it. FRP is not a bug.
Secondo, it's not Google's job to make my phone safe from thieves, it's mine. Why in hell would they make my life complicated because some idiots spends $2000 on a phone a forget it in a taxi, I don't want to have to do all these things, I just want my phone to be able to be serviced easily. and especially if i'm in a critical area, my safety is more important than these people's concerns about thieves. An the cherry on the pie is that today with the cloud sync technology, who cares in the first place.
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Bit of a strawman here as well, as the issue isn't the person accidentally leaving his device in a taxi, but the person who gets their device stolen. Add to that the hyperbole of a $2,000 phone and you have a funny comment.
This is Google complying with California's kill switch law that went into effect two years ago. Since people travel in and out of California all the time and it's nearly impossible to target devices with "California-only" firmware Google implemented FRP worldwide. The entire idea of FRP is to make the phone impossible to use if it is stolen.
""Burner" accounts are a pathway to disaster." Mate, look up the word disaster's definition from the dictionary and see if it applied to a chum that has got his phone stolen and get back to me with that.
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The situation you describe is exactly why FRP was implemented on devices. Burner accounts will lead to disaster because it is inevitable that the owner will have to reset his device for whatever reason. When he does, he's screwed. I will clarify one thing here: when I refer to a "Burner" account I refer to an account with a random string of letters and numbers used for both email address and password with the express purpose of preventing Google from tying data collected from the device to the owner of that device. Ideally, if you really want to use a throwaway account, you at least make up an email address and password that are both easy to remember.
For the record, here's the definition of "disaster". Definition 3 applies to this conversation.
dis·as·ter (dəˈzastər)
noun
1. a sudden event, such as an accident or a natural catastrophe, that causes great damage or loss of life. "159 people died in the disaster"
synonyms: catastrophe, calamity, cataclysm, tragedy, act of God, holocaust; accident. "a subway disaster"
2. denoting a genre of films that use natural or accidental catastrophe as the mainspring of plot and setting.
modifier noun: disaster. "a disaster movie"
3. an event or fact that has unfortunate consequences. "a string of personal disasters"
synonyms: misfortune, mishap, misadventure, mischance, setback, reversal, stroke of bad luck, blow. "a string of personal disasters"
P.S. When quoting something written in quotes, double quotes are replaced with single quotes. Thus, in quoting me you want to say, "'Burner' accounts are a pathway to disaster."