spv m700- getting rid of orange junk - P3600 Software Upgrading

HI all,
Having spent the past 3 hours tralling the forums ( my head is about to explode with all the info) I wondered if I could get some confirmation of some questions i (think ) have found the answers for.
please dont flame LOL
you can only dump the orange junk by reflashing the rom ?
there are issue with the parrot minikit ( speakerphone) with wm6 so if i prefer to stay wm5 it is best to use the htc rom ( though i may have to upgrade the radio rom) ?
for a simple phone user - phone, txt, gps, office etc is there any real benefit in upgrading to wm6? is it much fater and stable?
does anyone know of a simple rom with just the most basics of apps ( so I can then add my own later)
Many many thanks in advance I am amazed with the depth of knowledge floating around on here
Andy

>HI all,
HI
>Having spent the past 3 hours tralling the forums ( my head is about to explode with all the >info) I wondered if I could get some confirmation of some questions i (think ) have found >the answers for.
3 hours is nothing. 3 years would be just fine. Seriously.
>please dont flame LOL
Burn!
>you can only dump the orange junk by reflashing the rom ?
No (I think so), but it's a lot of work. I think. Easier just to reflash.
>there are issue with the parrot minikit ( speakerphone) with wm6 so if i prefer to stay wm5 >it is best to use the htc rom ( though i may have to upgrade the radio rom) ?
I have no issues.
>for a simple phone user - phone, txt, gps, office etc is there any real benefit in upgrading >to wm6? is it much fater and stable?
No.
>does anyone know of a simple rom with just the most basics of apps ( so I can then add my own later)
Vanila Roms are like that. I think.
>Many many thanks in advance I am amazed with the depth of knowledge floating around >on here
You're welcome, but beware - I'm noob too. Have been on the forum for less than a year. I know ****. Don't listen to me

flash flash flash.....you know you want too

flash
ware do i get the flash files ??????

where do i start
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
good luck
if you need any help pm me...ill try and help
i have tryed all the roms on here
im using the same as you m8

Upgrade to WM6 and get rid of the customization from Orange -well worth it.
If you don't really want to update just yet, another way to get rid of some of the customization is by performing a Hard Reset, after you align the screen when it first starts there will be a pop-up that customization will start in 3 seconds. Soft Reset the device before it starts and the items from the extended Rom - by orange will no copy.

Thanks for that
the hard /soft reset trick is exactly what i wanted
if i do that will i lose all the mms gprs settings?
if i do how do I go about down loading them please
thanks
Andy

The Orange settings are Orange UK by rabdo v1.6 though you should only need them WHEN you upgrade to WM6
Take the plunge, update - its really easy to do and you wont regret it.
READ THIS TRINITYGUIDES Thanks to Racerx

Guys,
If I am correct when i do the hard/soft reset i am dumping the external rom?
can i then unhide the external rom and run the cabs I want manually?
if that is the case how do I
a) un hide the rom
b) choose what to keep and what to not load.
when i can un hide the ext rom i can list the cabs available to load so i can ask you guys help
many thanks in advance

stringman said:
Guys,
If I am correct when i do the hard/soft reset i am dumping the external rom?
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No, Just preventing the items in the ROM from loading until the next hard reset, then you'll have to do the 3 second trick again.

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Clean ROM status -Update 3

OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
Because of the lack of bigstorage, we have a lot of unclaimed space.
Storage memory: 36.28MB (This means you can add your own programs without loosing this space.)
Program memory: 27.00MB when first turned on. 26.xx when it starts using parts of it for caching purposes. (28.xx with some tweaks that I will probably not setup in the final ROM because they will make certain things not work the way everyone else is used to.)
Updates:
Bugs found:
1. Notepad doesn't not launch or open in any way shape or form.
Bugs fixed:
1. The volume slider is acting as an up and down arrow instead of a volume slider. If anyone has any input on what controls this, I'd gladly appreciate the help. Also, tapping on the volume control does nothing.
And a little teaser... There's a little over 300+ packages on my next release of EasyBakeOven... which is why it's taking so long. I'm trying to weed out the useless ones, though.
Mental note: Check out the LGplugin to make it a package.
Disclaimer: Should you choose to flash the released ROM or any of its versions, released or otherwise, you are solely responsible for your equipment. I take no responsibility for any damage caused by this ROM nor by any negligence on your behalf while flashing said ROM. I will provide support to the best of my abilities only and ONLY if you have fully read the FAQ I will later provide, read this WHOLE thread AND the instructions, following them to a t. If I do not answer right away, please do not repeatedly ask me with countless PM's. This will not get me to leave my paying job faster and get me online to even SEE that you have a question. If I cannot answer the question, I will tell you. If it's posted here and I haven't responded for over a week, then post another message reminding me. I probably missed it. It is NOT ok to PM me asking me the same question that someone else has already gotten a response for. Read the whole thread. Other than that, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE ROM!!!
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OK guys. I've got my clean ROM running. So far no bugs but I keep finding things to remove. It runs really fast, too. I also don't have that bug that the Touch-IT based ROMs have with their internet explorer being very stuttery. I'll run it for a week or so (and remove a few more things) before I release it to you guys, though.
Now... If I could just get either BigStorage working and/or was able to merge the extROM with the storage... So far, I've had no success on either. Probably because of the DOC storage system... :-(
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this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
trallala said:
Hi
somewhere I read that the extrom in herald cannot be freed and given to the regular rom/ram like in other devices. (Don't know the source and whether this is really true ... ) The only thing you can do is use the extrom as additional memory and install applications in it.
Maybe you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.phpt=308175
The extrom can be "opened" using winimage on a PC . Then you can put applications in it (but I have not figured out how to do this best) and write it back to the device.
I have never tried it so I don't know if it work or bricks your phone. But maybe this will direct you to the right direction.
Good luck and please post your experiences.
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Thanks for the idea! I'll probably create a blank extROM and unlock the ROM from my ROM.
FZZF said:
this sounds really good I've looking and waiting for a good clean rom, and still have not seen a really good one I tried evry rom on here but they all have issues, the best one that I have no issues with is ITJE's touch it light based on the original T-Mo rom, it's just not light enough and the installed touch features are already outdated since new versions came out. so I will be watching you Mr Ivammj..and thanks for your work in advance..
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^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
ivanmmj said:
^_^ Thanks
Mine is VERY bare as it's going to be a base to my Kitchen. Too bad I can't reclaim a lot of that wasted space because of the fixed size of the img file on the Herald devices. What touch features are you refering to. The ONLY thing that I've really added per say is a newer version of HTC's X button/task manager and the Cubeless TouchFlo features.
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I was referring to the touchflo which I don't even use other then the scrolling feature, but there are some HTC apps that can be very useful and good looking I came a cross a post on here that has all of them http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533&highlight=random+acces
and this link has more apps (for Kaiser) most will work on the wing http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
thanks your hard work for us,i am from china,and i did the english ROM+chinese language ,i canot wait your ROM out ,and test it.
if it possible ,i hope you may share your kitchen with me ,and i can use it for my english rom and chinese language support.and more chinese people would like it .
let more people use clean ROM
let us work on big storge,and more faster ROM.
and my MSN:[email protected]
for my poor english.
OK. The ROM is flying and it's basically ready for a release as I haven't found any more bugs, so I might do an Alpha release this weekend.
Coool, I can't wait to try it!!!
clean rom
hey to all of you out their looking for a clean rom for the wing. back in my day when I owened a wing I cam across a offical htc hearld wm6 rom the worked with the wings keyboard, if any ones interested I can post it up. you guys can prolly use it as a base to build off of aswell
Santino.. that's like the holy grail of T-mo Wing rom's... please post it.
Regards
sure thing...I had orginally thought that the comunnity was aware of it. ill post it up in the upgrade fourms soon as I get home around 7pm eastern
Oh this would be sooo damn nice, a clean rom! And i sooo hope you get Bigstorage working!

Due to get a Vario3 - newbie- top 10 to-do's

Hi,
Not been here for a while. I had an old XDAII Himi and came here to flash the rom etc and use it as a TomTom / IGO.
My mate is about to upgrade his Kaiser for something better so I'm getting it cheapo. Its an MDA so I assume it will be locked to T-Mobile. So the first task will be to unlock it so I can put my orange sim in it.
So what I'm looking for in advance is like a hitlist of things I need to do to turn a std T-Mobile Vario3 into a nice jazzy up-to-date unit.
Please give me some pointers / recommendations.
Thx
this page has a link to a few wikis that have themselves have other links to very useful pages
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=377
but to save me wasting time on things are mediocre , I'd prefer a list of 'must haves'.
EG the most popular rom and applications
Once you've hardspl'd (etc) your phone look at some of Dutty's 6.1 roms, they are usually a gd start. HTCcuustomiser is a usefull bit of kit for changing some of the icons etc of the phone.
After that its just a matter of trawling the forums for .cab files that look usefull.
Im a fellow newb thou, so you'll have 2 look them up yourself, im still learning the ropes myself!

Manila 3D .cab...Help please !!

Hello Seniors,
I have a Tytn II with normal Rom version 3.29.707.0 WWE
Radio Version is 1.65.16.25
I am very new to this ROM cooking & flashing thing but it looks amazing & interesting to see how you make your devices look mesmerizing with all those features that you work upon. I read few instructions about how to install these cooked roms with RUU files..But due to lack of knowledge & experience, it doesn't seem to be working for me. I am looking forward to a Manila 3d or 2d rom's .cab file which comparatively is easier to install. Can someone please help me with a file or a link from where i can get a working Manila or any other Touch 3D rom's .cab file that i can use for my Kaiser..Your help will be highly appreciated.
I found one working .cab file for Manila 2d but it doesn't work in landscape mode.
here u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search
looking for a quick fix will almost always get you nowhere. Try clicking on the link titled "For all the people that want a cool phone" in my Sig and read the post.
Thanks !!
Thank you all for your response as it really was helping. I appreciate your views about the journey. Not just getting the meal served on table rather also to know how it is being prepared in the kitchen & what's it all about ! Will definitely keep up my research & will try to make most of it. Please keep helping & suggesting as it really helps. I know it's not sumthing that you're here for. But again if u spare some time for queries that u feel r considerable it'd be great. And yes i've gone thru the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 and tried to make it work on my Kaiser..But Touch-Flo 3d was not initiated even after flashing on screen again & again..I got the Second start up & Diamond Album work though..But didn't see Manila 3D working even i tried installing files in my device memory as specified serial order :
TF3D-QVGA
Opera
HTC AudioManager by Swtos
TF3D Standby
Touch Response
HTC-Diamond-Album
Manilla 3D landscape
Please help if anything needs to be done apart from these !!
Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29
It Worked
Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers
vicky_crispy said:
Hey I played with the files that were attached in the link mentioned in my previous rep..A little shuffle with them And i made Manila 3D work on my Kaiser..I installed HTC-CA-KAIS- 3D Drivers..Also instead of 3D Standby attached in the same link..I used Mortscript..QVGA Touch Power & TouchPower + TF3D Stanby cabs to get it working alongwith an advanced power menu thru the Power button..The only problem is that the phone has become really slow now. Also the Manila 3D's album feature is not detecting any albums neither looks like working properly. I will try to install Kaiser Tweaks as i read in a thread as my phone is freezing while a call comes !! Any suggestions are welcome..Cheers
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Glad you got everything working, but obviously when you download a lot of crap that wasn't meant for your phone onto your phone,to make it look cool, it uses a lot of resources. While TF3D looks really cool and everyone here has done a great job porting it to our Kaisers, I still think that M2D gives you a lot more " bang for your buck " with fewer problems and fewer needed work a rounds.
RESULTS
Well i agree Denko that this feature is not meant for Kaisers by default. But by using certain means & making them work is what "Development" is all about. I understand there's a price for everything that we do. And after all d research & experiments that i did with my Kaiser..Its not the "Kewl" thing neither the 3D effect that is making me go crazy but its simpy the efforts & the result that i finally derived through them which again has inspired me that i can go ahead & experiment and maybe create new things too. And I can understand on thing for sure, that for a technology freak, There's no end to modifications & development as it's an on-going process.You've yourself been a part of same thing for a long time now i guess, But for me its sumthing i've stepped upon, So i'l take my time & maybe react too. Though you might find it too small to react & childish too, But datz d way it is. Thanks once again for your wise help & suggestions. Now next thing i'd wanna do to my Tilt is Flash a ROM in it..Maybe by next week. And that's sumthing i'm li'l scared of because i dnt wana cause harm to my device at d same time. And even after reading tutorial, M nt getting it worked as my phone gets disconnected from USB mode as soon as i start burning a ROM. Also i dnt really know how to get a HARD SPL 3.56 on my device. I tried that but it didn't work too. Is there some video tutorial that gives a sneek-peek into the action. Anyways i think m going too fast for that, And there's no hurry. So what are you working upon these days ?? And what do you do ?
Clarify & help please ???
kaiserII101 said:
Manila 2D does not work in Landscape. Also your ROM version is incorrect. You would know this if you read the whole post, and before flashing -G-'s ROM you need to flash Hard-SPL 3.29
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Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too
<~THANK YOU~>
fiyaburnz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507 follow instructions after download and all should be fine, figured i do this b4 they hopped all over you telling you to search
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Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers
vicky_crispy said:
Than'x for your reply. Though what do you mean my ROM version is incorrect ?? I bought this TyTN II GSM version from an HTC Store in august 2008. Still its ROM Version is not upto date ? Well if it isn't then what can i do to get it working. And please just dnt show me direction thru a finger, I might need a GPS as m really not fimiliar with your technical jargons, Be it while communicating with you all or in the thread that you refer people to go read to get their answers..I understand it to an extent..But not good enuff to get it working at one go. Plus i dnt wanna harm my device too
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by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better
How to get -G- Rom ???
kaiserII101 said:
by your ROM version being incorrect i mean that you need -G-'s ROM. After you go through Hard-SPL just install TF3D. The HTC-CA drviers are cooked into his ROM and it makes TF3D a hell of a lot smoother and faster. So you don't need to install the drivers. Thats what was wrong in the first place is you didn't have the drivers which I see you installed in with a CAB but with them bring cooked in it makes it a lot better
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Sir,
thank you for your suggestion. But as I've mentioned in my previous Replies, I am a rookie when it comes to Kaiser or ROM cooking & flashing. So i tried to flash some ROMS in my Kaiser but it failed. I mean my device is connected to my PC thru USB..And then i go thru those normal RUU file initiation screen too. But as it turns into 3 color screen & status shows "0%", It gets stuck right there & gets Disconnected from the USB connection !! And what about HARD SPL...How can i get it done to my Device..Specially with the configuration that i have on Kaiser. Because like i mentioned, I try to flash things through RUU..My phone gets disconnected frm USB ?? And wanted to resolve the query that DO our phones come with a HARD-SPL already ?? What is it actually & Hw can we check if its there on our device already or not ?? I tried by pressing both the "SOFTKEYS" at the same time..all that happened is that my phone screen got locked (Normal screen-lock)..I also tried pressing CAMERA & POWER buttons together for almost 30 seconds..Nothing happened Well these threads help me to an extent as i keep reading. But if there's some specific directions that i can get specific to my query. It might help..Or maybe if there's a Video-tutorial. Plus if you are getting what actually my problem is..I mean with the device..like if there are some specific files that i should use for it to get working..Please attach the links if you would. Because i did check the video of Touchflo 3D manila on Youtube & it was quick out there !! Also i installed some Kaiser tweaks (KaiserTweak-nikagl-20080613-1711) as i read in a thread installing tweaks make Kaiser speed up a lil bit when using Manila 3D..But the Touch-Incall-Screen-Tweal seems to give some trouble as the incoming call screen gets stuck..It did twice today morning. So i have un-installed those tweaks !! So if there's sumthing that you think might get my device a li'l boosted up along with Manila 3D..Please refer that too !! I'l try to flash a ROM once i receive your response about how & which version of HARD SPL will b fine for my Kaiser..And how can i get it on my device ??
Your reply will be awaited & appreciated.. Thanks in Advance
Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom (For Noobs)
click the link stylez posted, don't be embarrassed, I was there about 6 months ago
vicky_crispy said:
Than'x buddy..It did work..Though made me work it out from noon till night..But after few shuffles in the files mentioned in your link + Some that i did research & found from other threads..Manilla 3D is finally working in my Kaiser with everything fixed though my device has become a li'l slow that the time when i was using Manila 2D..Anyways i'l use it for a few days & if feel its affecting the speed to an extent where its bothering me i'l remove it !! Anyways than'x for ur help though..Cheers
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no prob i used it and it worked fine for me i just switched back to 2d about 2 days ago and im already thinking about going back to 3d
installing M3D really makes my Kaiser slow. i installed M2D instead and installed M3D skin i dont have any problem w/ it right now
yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?
Flashed GK.10.Final Rom
kaiserII101 said:
yeah but buddy here is the thing. The skin pales compared to the actual thing . And you probably didn't flash -G-'s ROM I bet?
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Hey Senior..Than'x for all your support & guidance..I flashed Garmin's version 10 final rom on my Kaiser yesterday night..I had a li'l fear in my mind before i initiated HardSPL 3.29 & then Flashing GK.10.Final on my phone but all that happened very smooth & gave my device an all new look. Now what i am wondering is that how can i use Manila 3D or should i say 3D interface on my Kaiser. Or i must say you advice me what will look the best on my Kaiser. If you have any roms or suggestions upon what can i do post installing -G-'s rom on my kaiser..Or is it the complete package within itself..Please do advice me regarding this..I really would like to move on to the next level..Its really adventurous..Cheers to y'all !!
Regards,
Vicky
Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme
SUCCESS !!!
kaiserII101 said:
Everything you need for Manila3D should be in the ZIP file over at the TF3D thread. Be sure to read the Readme
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Senior I used the TF3D files in the .rar file as you mentioned in the post yesterday night itself as the excitement was too high & it was too hard to stop..So i worked upon my Kaiser till the morning & uploaded TF3D Manila. To my wonder the Incall Tweak was not required this time as the phone didn't freeze on incoming call. Earlier it didn't use to display caller ID as it was left hidden begind Manila Interface..But not anymore. I also used some additional tabs like the Additional 3 tabs, Call Log, Calendar & Command manager tabs. I also installed S2U2 v 1.52 on my phone. And now TF3D Manila works on my Kaiser like the Nitrous in the car. Then i used Flash Format & formatted my 4Gig card as it got corrupted a li'l while back with the folders getting unaccessible with some strange signs & i was unable to format it using Pocket Mechanic. But finally everything is in place & working absolutely fine herre as i have installed some more programs using the other threads for Kaiser software..Will try & add some Pictures of Manila 3D running over Garmin's DK.10.Final ROM. Will cherish this ROM for sometime & then will try using something different & better on my Kaiser. You can advice what will be the next thing that i should do which will be fantastic for my Device !!
It would have never been possible without you guys who work hard on development part & bother to help rookies like us with queries too. Gr8 job

Newbies guide. How to get your Orange SPVM700 (Trinity) running WinMo6.5

Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
chimpsinties said:
Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!

[Q] Touch Diamond Roms

Hi,getting my htc touch diamond this week (its in the mail) & was wondering as some of you folks out there have had yours a few years now can you give me a list of names for roms you think are worth trying ie Energy rom ,then i can go find them & collect them all to try out,i seen the energy one on utube love the icons & smoothnes of it but would like you guys ideas knowing more than me... thyanks in advance Ali... lincolnshire uk
There is so much variety out there. It really depends what you want to get from your device. Just have a look through the ROM section and pick out one with what you need.
Personally I use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740252
It's the fastest and most stable ROM I've tried yet.
Cheers for that yeh i been looking it seems there loads to pick from,ime just getting my head round how to flash one,i have flashed it but not the mtty way so just reading how to do it that way.. dont seem as easy maby ime missing some thing..

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