I have been reading about peoples problems with their phone and now I'm worried about what if my phone breaks. Can I get it replaced even though I'm not an AT&T customer. I bought it at a CompUSA which is going out of business and signs in the store said All Sales Final No Returns.
do any of ur friends have att? if so just exchange it through their acct. if not you have to go thru HTC directly which isnt fun because u send them your phone..
Don't worry about it. As long as you have the Receipt you're fine.
Call cingular customer service and ask to be redirected to warranty exchange. It's still under it's 1 year warranty and you do have a proof of purchase.
Don't trip out because you got it from CompUSA.
What XBM will do most likely is a.) either send you the replacement and ask that you send the broken phone back ( they'll fill you in on the details ) or b.) they'll redirect you to HTC's warranty exchange process ( almost the same thing but postage paid handling might not be available and/or you may need to send the device to them first. A word of caution though, HTC's warranty exchange may be on the lookout for custom roms.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the respsonses
I can't imagine AT&T being nice enough to exchange a phone for a rival's service. I had to do an exchange with my Hermes several months back before I got my tilt, and I DID have to give my account information and all of that. If I were you I would check into HTC's warranty program. And as far as going through a friend...that may work, but my guess is it would depend on if the IMEI number of your phone has been registered with their system previously or not. I know for sure that some AT&T representatives have been instructed that the warranty is null and void if change of ownership takes place. I had a similar fiasco with that same Hermes, and had to pester them by calling and speaking with 4-5 people before they finally caved in and let me do it. But it took a lot of talking and I'm pretty persistent.
The first thing they ask you is: "can I have your cell phone number starting with area code please" if you don't have an account with them, look for someone that does....
Guess I'm S.O.L. since I got mine on eBay. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with it
Call Asurion & buy the insurance. Mine was like 60.00USD per year.
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Call Asurion & buy the insurance. Mine was like 60.00USD per year.
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Sounds like the best bet.
rquinn19 said:
I have been reading about peoples problems with their phone and now I'm worried about what if my phone breaks. Can I get it replaced even though I'm not an AT&T customer. I bought it at a CompUSA which is going out of business and signs in the store said All Sales Final No Returns.
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The phone comes with a 1 year manufacturers warrenty.
AT&T will not exchange it for you, unless you're one of their customers. The AT&T exchange requires you have an account with them. It's a service to make things easier for their customers, rather than having to deal direct with the manufacturer.
You'll have to pay for shipping both ways though. To and from HTC if it breaks. Make sure you buy some insurance on it through the shipping carrier. (I shipped a W600i a few years ago and if the phone would have been lost, I would have been SOL).
As long as you have the reciept, at&t will honor the warranty. You will probably have to jump through hoops trying to explain the situation to the support rep, and get tossed around from department to department, but once you find a half-way intelligent representative, they should be able to help you. I had to do the same thing, as I bought my tilt from frys, and I got a RLoD about a month after i got it. Fry's didn't have anymore in stock so I went to the at&t store and used their phone to call the warranty deopartment. They told me they were going to create a non-member account (since i dont have an at&t account) or something of the sort, so that my info would be in their system. All I would have to do is fax them the receipt from frys, and then I would get a replacement from the store. Well it turned out that I had forgotten the reciept so I was gonna come back the next day and get it replaced, but that night I was reading up on the RLOD issue and messing around with my tilt, and I managed to fix it. Long story short, at&t will honor the warranty on an at&t branded phone, provided you have the receipt and a couple of hours to wait on hold. Oh, and the patience to explain your story 12 times to 12 different retards, until you fin a non-tard. laterz.
I worked for the company for several years and no they will not xbm. You need to have a post paid account and also have the imei registered on the account . If you call xbm they will just redirect you to the manufacturer.
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My AT&T Tilt/Kaiser LCD screen was cracked, and I called HTC (1.888.617.1113) just now (Oct 30). HTC told me that they do not provide any service/RMA for this model for the time being. Asking when will the service be available? The answer is "Not Sure!" This is quite disappointing!
So, watch out your Kaiser/Tilt. Use it carefully.
I asked how much it costs me to replace the LCD once the service is avaiable. The estimated cost will be from $120 to $180.
Is what you have AT&T branded or HTC branded?
this is normal, and it's the same in most counties, if your at&t messes up, you take it to at&t for repair, it's like that for most carriers, if you have the HTC Tytn 2, you have to send it back to whom you got the phone from, or to the county that the phone was registered to, US will not repair anything, thats because it's not officially sold yet.
thats one disadvantage buying from online store, where most of the products are imports.
kms
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Mine is a AT&T Tilt. I bought it from AT&T last week. On the 2nd day, the screen cracked.
You'll need to go through AT&T for service (that's why you buy it from them). Perhaps they'll offer you a "refurbished" model in exchange...
Alternatively, if you purchased by a qualifying credit card, you might want to pursue a "purchase protection" route. This phone (like all PDA devices) is explicitly not covered by AT&T's insurance providers.
Don't shy away from a refurbished unit, they are so new, most likely you will get a new one. That's what happened with my 1st 8525 that failed in the first few weeks, I got a new one.
Maybe this helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102
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Mine is a AT&T Tilt. I bought it from AT&T last week. On the 2nd day, the screen cracked.
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Take it back to ATT -had issues with my 1st Tilt, and they replaced it-no problems. + it's on a 30-day, no questions asked return. They didn't give me a hassle at all.
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You'll need to go through AT&T for service (that's why you buy it from them). Perhaps they'll offer you a "refurbished" model in exchange...
Alternatively, if you purchased by a qualifying credit card, you might want to pursue a "purchase protection" route. This phone (like all PDA devices) is explicitly not covered by AT&T's insurance providers.
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why do they offer insurance for $4.99 per month if they will not honor a phone replacement? I have the option to add insurance.
unless insurances has been purchased, i doubt at&t will even do anything, crack screen is not covered under any warranty.
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why do they offer insurance for $4.99 per month if they will not honor a phone replacement? I have the option to add insurance.
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AT&T explicitly told me in the store that there is NO insurance available for this phone, and I have a premier account, so unless you know something the rest of us don't, insurance is NOT available.
Yes, it's ridiculous that you can add the option to include the insurance, but if you try and make a claim, they'll tell you that all PDA's are excluded from the plan.
If you're already paying for insurance, call AT&T and demand a refund (they'll give it to you and confirm that PDA's aren't covered).
You might be able to add insurance but its up to the consumer to know what they are adding if they do it themselves. On the ATT Insurance page they explain the entire process and list a link for Ineligible Devices. Problem is most people click thru without learning what they are adding thinking they know.
Insurance Homepage
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/basics/choosing-features-services/wireless-insurance.jsp
Ineligible Devices
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/IneligibleEquipmentList.pdf
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Maybe this helps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102
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First of all, I took my Tilt back to AT&T, and they refused to swap me with a new or refubrished phone. They won't exchange any phone with physical demage (in my case, a crack screen) once I left the door the day I purchased the phone. Also, AT&T won't sent back the phone to HTC for me. I have to do it by myself. I bought the phone in Daly City, California AT&T store, they have lots of lousy people working there especially the assistant store manager, so erogant and bad attitude. For that, I have formally complainted him to customer service already.
Luckily, I purchased the phone with American Express card, and I can get purchase protection from AE. That's why I called HTC, and they said they are not providing any service for Tilt/Kaiser now. I was suggested to call back in two weeks checking the availability of the service.
Because of your thread, mario, I bought the LCD screen from Nicholas. The shipment is on its way. I followed your instructions in the thread, and unscrewed 4 screws at the back of the moving part, I dared not to go further because I cannot remove the case. Any technique you can share with me? I won't try again until I physically receive the shipment from Nicholas.
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First of all, I took my Tilt back to AT&T, and they refused to swap me with a new or refubrished phone. They won't exchange any phone with physical demage (in my case, a crack screen) once I left the door the day I purchased the phone. Also, AT&T won't sent back the phone to HTC for me. I have to do it by myself. I bought the phone in Daly City, California AT&T store, they have lots of lousy people working there especially the assistant store manager, so erogant and bad attitude. For that, I have formally complainted him to customer service already.
Luckily, I purchased the phone with American Express card, and I can get purchase protection from AE. That's why I called HTC, and they said they are not providing any service for Tilt/Kaiser now. I was suggested to call back in two weeks checking the availability of the service.
Because of your thread, mario, I bought the LCD screen from Nicholas. The shipment is on its way. I followed your instructions in the thread, and unscrewed 4 screws at the back of the moving part, I dared not to go further because I cannot remove the case. Any technique you can share with me? I won't try again until I physically receive the shipment from Nicholas.
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If you are still within your 30 days call AT&T customer service and explain to them that the screen has malfunctioned they will send you a replacement overnight. Definitely not greater than 2 business days. The same happed to me when I bought my 8525. It wasn't the screen it was the keyboard, but I was never charged. I took it into to two different at&t stores and was told something the same as you. I'd had the device about 1 week at the two week mark I called 800-331-0500. The gentleman took my information over the phone my replacement arrived the next business day. If you are outside of the 30 days, ask them to transfer you to warranty department. They will send you a refurb unit. I know this because they first tried to connect me to the warranty department to be shipped a refurb unit until I pointed out that I was within my first 30 of my contract.
The stores make there their money from hardware and accessories. The company makes it's money by keeping you as a customer.
Hope this helps
Why not skip the bastards at the store? Call up CS and chances are, if you keep a pretty good attitude, they'll hook you up with a replacement.
Calling repeatedly sure beats driving down and asking of them in person, especially if you know they're jerks to begin with. Over the phone, get a jerk, hang up and call again.
Last resort, thy pocket pc techs
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?area=home
They do some repair work. Not sure if they are able to get parts for the Tytn II, but it seems they are at least fmailiar with things of this nature.
Yea... NO PDA INSURANCE through ATT !!
...that's probably the ONLY thing I miss after switching from Verizon! Vzn does at least honor PDAs on their insurance plans. If ATT had offered it, I would have bought the Tilt instead.
My two options were 1) the local (Chicago) store I bought my TyTN II from offered an extended mechanical warranty at the time of purchase for about $150/yr. They will replace it if anything goes wrong...but there are LOTS of exceptions and clauses in the warranty! 2) I could specifically add the TyTN II to my home owners insurance policy.
For me, this was the best option since it covers mechanical, theft, drops, kicks, splashes (etc) and it won't cost me anything but a small deductible unless/until I ever need to make a claim.
TEC
I too cracked the screen on my TyTN II. I do not have the Tilt version, but I am using it in the USA with AT&T service. I called HTC USA over a week ago and they told me they do service the TyTN II. They gave me an RMA and I shipped it to them last week. They should have received it Monday. I'll keep you posted if they are able to repair it. I also contacted PPC Techs who have the screen on order and are expecting to receive it by Nov 9th. I have used PPC Techs before. They charge a similar price to HTC, $169. They did a great job repairing my former Pocket Loox 720 screen. They had a great turnaround time. I overnighted it to them Monday and I had it back Wednesday.
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I too cracked the screen on my TyTN II. I do not have the Tilt version, but I am using it in the USA with AT&T service. I called HTC USA over a week ago and they told me they do service the TyTN II. They gave me an RMA and I shipped it to them last week. They should have received it Monday. I'll keep you posted if they are able to repair it. I also contacted PPC Techs who have the screen on order and are expecting to receive it by Nov 9th. I have used PPC Techs before. They charge a similar price to HTC, $169. They did a great job repairing my former Pocket Loox 720 screen. They had a great turnaround time. I overnighted it to them Monday and I had it back Wednesday.
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Thanks for your advise.
I did call HTC a week ago, and, by then, they do repair Tilt/Kaiser/TyTN II. In fact, I was asked if I want to send my Tilt back to them. If yes, they can send me a RMA number. Due to the fact that I want to compare the repairing cost with local repair shop that I did not get the RMA number. I searched around the repair shops, and NONE of them is able to fix the Tilt for me (may be it is too new model.)
HOWEVER, I called yesterday, the message had been changed. Without getting any information from me, HTC told me that they are not able to provide any service on Tilt/Kaiser/TyTN II.
bersca, you are lucky that you get a RMA number. I do suggest you to keep tracking the status with HTC. I am afraid it may take very long for you to get back you phone. Good Luck!
Last night i left my Tilt on the charger (i use my usb hub and the sync cable to charge it) and i find it this morning with a red led as if it was totally dead and needed to be charged a bit to turn on and it wont turn on at all. I read that thats a chip malfunctioning and the phone needs to be replaced. I got this device brand new and dont have my reciept and i tried calling AT&T and they say i need a receipt. Im not sure about HTC (they arent open today) but I do not want to have to fork out money to mail it to them, wait a month without it. Any ideas? Anyone had a similar situation that could help. Any help would be appreciated.
First I'd pull the battery then re-insert. If it's totally dead, I'd go to a ATT store and see if you could try a different battery. If you bought the phone from ATT I'd expect you would be on their system.
good luck.
actually i got it off craigslist (online classifieds) brand new but ive been telling the ATT stores that i won it off the net for filling out some survey for some sweepstakes and that they did not provide a receipt (pretty sure if i say i bought it from someone not retail they will deny all warranty exchanges) and they said to call AT&T service line. They said it shouldnt be a problem without a receipt but lets hope thats the case. I think i am fully entitled to the warranty as the device still carries its value, it was still purchased at one point. Lets hope they understand that
I had this happen twice actually once with my Hermes and now with my second Tilt just 2 days ago. My tilt was within 30 days of the purchase date from AT&T so I figured I could return it without a problem because I happen to be in California on vacation and I live in NY. I thought since I bought it from AT&T through their Premier site that all my information would be in their computers since I didn't have anything with me but the phone and the charger. So I went to AT&T here in Cali and told them my phone just went dead and the LED went red and wouldn't turn on. I said I was within 30 days and just wanted to exchange the phone. They said okay....BUT... I needed the receipt and of course I'm not going to have the receipt when I'm on vacation so they gave me trouble. Then I went to the nearest Kinkos and printed out the receipt that was sent to my email. I went to a different AT&T store that was closer to the Kinkos and told them what happened and they gave me trouble saying I need the Invoice that came with the phone when it was shipped to me, and there was no chance in God's green Earth that I would have the Invoice. I put up a fight and raised my voice some saying how ridiculous this was since it was already my second tilt and that I called Customer Service before hand and told them what happened and they said I could exchange it no questions asked without anything and that the Customer Service rep I spoke to put a Special Note on my account page for the instore sales reps to see (all of which is true). They saw all of that and gave me a brand new phone and took my old one.
That's my story about a similar problem so I hope it helped.
Okay so my screen stopped working and I heard that tmobile has manufactorer warranty for one year even if you dont have insurance? Is it true?
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Okay so my screen stopped working and I heard that tmobile has manufactorer warranty for one year even if you dont have insurance? Is it true?
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HTC covers for 1 yr. Tmobile will just say call HTC.
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HTC covers for 1 yr. Tmobile will just say call HTC.
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Not true, I'm on my 5th tmo warranty replacement, bought my phone in march.... if this breaks I get the option to swap to any other color or an MT3G.... being a RadioShack employee we become a T-mo retailer in 20 days... ima play with for a couple weeks and maybe sometime before my warranty is up this one will somehow wind up defective...
And that applies to ANY new phone including new phones sent as warranty replacements, eg my current g1 was a new replacement so even though my orig purchase was march this one carries a one year warranty from the date I first put my sim in it.... 3 days ago
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Okay so my screen stopped working and I heard that tmobile has manufactorer warranty for one year even if you dont have insurance? Is it true?
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TRUE ...they jus send u a replacement & charge u $10 for shipping & u send ur old phone back in the box they sent ur new 1 in
BUT the new phone they will send u will be REFURBISHED!!! NO IF &S OR BUTS
Again not true the warranty replacement bin so to speak has a mix of new and refurb g1's its luck of the draw what you get... call tmo and ask when your warranty expires, if its a year from the date of you got your last new phone, then you got a refurb, if it's not then you got a new one, eg my phone has a one year warranty from one year from tthe day I popped my sim in it, not a year from the day I bought my 1st g1 in march
Tmo will send you a replacement, as others have said. If you call HTC, they too will cover it, however you have to send it to them and they will repair the problem(s) and send back your unit.
This is also the only way someone like me can get a G1 fixed, as I bought mine secondhand from CG.
I have ACTUALLY gone through this process with t-mo. I also now work for them. If you call them and you within the 1 yr waranty you get one sent though a third-party company which also handles insurance replacements. You can ask for a different collor, but it is pointless considering the device you recieve won't come with a batter, battery cover, or cables. As far as refurbs go it depends on what is in stock at the closest warehouse of said third-party. If there are new ones in stock that's what you get. You nor t-mo can ask for new versus refubished as already stated it's the luck of the draw.
The majority of what these loons say isn't true. Also, for future assurance of not paying out the ass for a new phone just pay the measley $4 a month incase it happens again next year.
P.S. ESKIMO if you are hoping your device might suddenly become "defective" what I have done is re-flash the old dreaming.nbh and the flash haykuro's broken SPL. Instantly causing your phone to brick (forever). Give t-mo a call and you'll have a new phone in a weeks time .
Lol thanks but that's only number one on my list of way's to break this sucker.... I did mention om on my 5th g1 in 5 months
And while tmo may not be able to request new or refurb the warranty replacement mgr I spoke to and have the cell number of, said they may know weather they are currently shipping one or the other out of a warehouse.... its a simple as checking the warranty attached to the IMEI 90 warranty (or remainder of current) is refurb 1yr is new.... every tiime
How is this possible, i got the insurance thing from t-mob and they told me, in case the phone was stolen, broken etc etc. i had to pay a deductible price of $130 ????
If your under warranty then the only thing extra insurance covers is loss or theft.... and technically water and screen dmg cuz you could LOSE it
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Again not true the warranty replacement bin so to speak has a mix of new and refurb g1's its luck of the draw what you get... call tmo and ask when your warranty expires, if its a year from the date of you got your last new phone, then you got a refurb, if it's not then you got a new one, eg my phone has a one year warranty from one year from tthe day I popped my sim in it, not a year from the day I bought my 1st g1 in march
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cool, I *work* for t-mobile in the PDA dep (so I support G1 yay) and didn't even know this. Though I had suspected it, as I'd noticed the discrepancy in that some warranty replacements would show 1yr instead of 90days or existing as we always advise customers.
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I have ACTUALLY gone through this process with t-mo. I also now work for them. If you call them and you within the 1 yr waranty you get one sent though a third-party company which also handles insurance replacements. You can ask for a different collor, but it is pointless considering the device you recieve won't come with a batter, battery cover, or cables.
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whoa several things wrong there. First, $4 isn't the cost for insurance, it's $5.99 if you get the extended warranty (which I certainly would if you're going to have it at all) and $4.79 if you only get insurance.
Also, if you are within the 1 year warranty, T-Mobile will replace your device, but we certainly don't refer you to anyone else to do it, and you can CERTAINLY NOT request a color change. There's no way for us to do it! If you have insurance, and the phone is physically damaged, is the only time we refer you to a Assurion. You claim to work for T-Mobile but you definitely don't seem to work in PDA or any other support department that actually does exchanges.
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If your under warranty then the only thing extra insurance covers is loss or theft.... and technically water and screen dmg cuz you could LOSE it
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On this, this is incorrect. The insurance covers anything not covered under warranty. You can throw it against the wall, break the screen, cook it in the microwave, etc, and they'd still send you out a new phone for the deductible cost. You could theoretically even say you lost the phone, pay $130 for a replacement, and then sell the original on eBay for a profit! Though the prevent this type of thing by banning you from insurance if you have more than 2 insurance claims in 1 year (Assurion will do this, not T-Mobile)
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Wow, after reading further in this thread..... you guys have a real confusion on how warranty, insurance, and multiple exchanges work! I'd say - call t-mobile and ask to speak to a rep and see what actually happens.
The basics:
1: You bought the phone from eBay or got it from "some guy": Call HTC and see what they can do. T-Mobile can't help you.
2: You bought the phone from TMobile: T-Mobile handles warranty, Assurion handles loss/theft/accidental damage. You can't change color or devices.
3: You've had multiple exchanges of the same device (more than 3 in 90 days): You can change the device, but you can't pick what device replaces it (we tell you) and you can't pick the color. You won't get a MyTouch for a G1 (lol, I wish). You'll likely get a Dash or Blackberry, but that is determined by the warranty system, and you can only take what it offers or your same device back.
4: You bought the phone from TMobile, you've had multiple problems, you hate the phone, etc and you DON'T like what the system offers you on step 3. Talk to Loyalty and they'll give you a cheap upgrade. Probably not to a MyTouch as that is kinda the same phone, and we know what you're doing.
5. You have a G1 and want a free MyTouch. Not gonna happen. Nope.
Hi, I got my Moto G 2nd gen 2 months ago and when I got it there was a slight area of the screen where the glass touched the display too much, making it sorta off colour on that part of the screen like when you press down too hard except this is where the screen is always like that.
Now I feel like it has gotten slightly worse over time and want to use my warranty, however 2 months ago I unlocked the bootloader with the intentions of rooting it (I never gotten round to rooting it in the end)
I messaged moto support last night and they sent me an email saying how I can return it to be repaired but also said:
Motorola will repair and return your phone free of charge under the warranty conditions. If in the event that your phone is found to be out of warranty by the repair centre then please be advised that a quotation and handling charge may be applied. Any damage caused by using unauthorised operating systems, tampering or altering the device firmware and any signs of physical damage that were undisclosed prior to sending for repair will void your warranty and you may be charged for repair.
You can expect the phone to be repaired within 10 working days from its arrival at our repair centre but please allow additional days for postage. Please also note that Motorola do not accept claims for losses incurred by customers not following the process detailed in this message.
This is weird because on another thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574104) it said that even though I unlocked the bootloader, as I live in the EU I legally can get a hardware problem like this fixed by them for free as unless they can prove that unlocking the bootloader did this then they have to fix.
I don't wanna send it off and it come back as they think my warranty is void, how can I assert my rights in a situation like this to get my screen defect fixed?
Many thanks
No reply? Ah well
As an update I had a conversation with the online chat support motorola customer care thing last night, saying how I unlocked my bootloader however I believe that as I live in the EU I still have a warranty set out by a directive (I refered to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 a lot, provided a lot of useful information)
They then forwarded my message onto a relevant department (whoever that was) after saying many times that the warranty was completely void, and I spoke to them again today and they said they got a message back from said department who said the same thing where no repair can be issued as the warranty has been voided. I again tried to assert the EU law but he couldnt help me or even forward me onto someone who could help me, so I gave up.
I'm at a loss people The website in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 said that if they refuse to repair then "you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations." but I would have no bloody idea on how to do that.
To expand, I bought the device on Amazon but it has been more than 2 months since I got the device so I have no option to message them about the device specifically.
Someone please help me
My advice is to actually call your local Motorola service and speak to a person instead of writing them. If they still refuse your repair you should contact amazon as they have a very accommodating return policy. Last step is to visit your local consumer protection office and ask for legal support.
Bte from which country are you from?
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My advice is to actually call your local Motorola service and speak to a person instead of writing them. If they still refuse your repair you should contact amazon as they have a very accommodating return policy. Last step is to visit your local consumer protection office and ask for legal support.
Bte from which country are you from?
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The UK, I'm looking at Amazon and through my previous orders I cant contact them about my phone order anymore as its been more than 2 months, do you reckon I should just send an email to them anyway?
Thanks for replying by the way
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The UK, I'm looking at Amazon and through my previous orders I cant contact them about my phone order anymore as its been more than 2 months, do you reckon I should just send an email to them anyway?
Thanks for replying by the way
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Amazon have a great returns policy, you can contact them for return or refund of items out of the initial returns period using live chat. Use this link
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/contact-us/general-questions.html?skip=true
Use 'An order I placed', select the item and you can chat live with an agent. How you deal with it and what you say is wrong with the phone is then up to you.
If you're in the UK, the Sale of Goods Act is your friend, and holds the seller, not the manufacturer, legally liable for any defects in the product (the key phrases are "not fit for purpose", "not as described", and "not of merchantable quality").
In practice, this often means that you end up dealing with the manufacturer to resolve problems after purchase, since many retailers lack the facility to carry out repairs and end up being a conduit between you and the manufacturer; thus it's often easier to go to the manufacturer directly.
However, that still doesn't remove the seller's obligations under the law, and Amazon's policy doesn't supersede the law. If you've only had the phone for two months, and it was defective from the moment you received it, it's Amazon's legal responsibility to address the issue.
I would recommend requesting a full refund or a replacement with a new device. Make sure to wipe the old one before sending it back. If Amazon refuses to play ball, have a chat with your local Citizens' Advice Bureau. That said, in my experience Amazon is usually willing to abide by its legal obligations after only a little bit of to-and-fro reminding them of said obligations. I've successfully returned a few items more than a year after purchase because they should have lasted for several years (see the "not fit for purpose" mentioned above), although Amazon's initial responses were to suggest that nothing could be returned after thirty days, followed by a suggestion that I take it up with the manufacturer.
Just remind Amazon of the Sale of Goods Act's requirements, and you should be alright.
Thank you so much for the help!
I contacted amazon today rather than Motorola, and it literally took 5 minutes of live chat to get a replacement phone sent to me first class and the return label for the old one to come here. What a difference it is compared to the horrific experience from the Motorola live chat who don't even know the EU directive.
Really happy to now have a replacement coming rather than sending it to a repair centre and having no phone for a week.
Good result, and just as expected from Amazon. Their live chat system for returns/refunds is very straightforward.
I bought mine them too, not quite the cheapest, but worth a couple of quid extra for the piece of mind in case a replacement needed whilst under warranty.
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No reply? Ah well
As an update I had a conversation with the online chat support motorola customer care thing last night, saying how I unlocked my bootloader however I believe that as I live in the EU I still have a warranty set out by a directive (I refered to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 a lot, provided a lot of useful information)
They then forwarded my message onto a relevant department (whoever that was) after saying many times that the warranty was completely void, and I spoke to them again today and they said they got a message back from said department who said the same thing where no repair can be issued as the warranty has been voided. I again tried to assert the EU law but he couldnt help me or even forward me onto someone who could help me, so I gave up.
I'm at a loss people The website in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 said that if they refuse to repair then "you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations." but I would have no bloody idea on how to do that.
To expand, I bought the device on Amazon but it has been more than 2 months since I got the device so I have no option to message them about the device specifically.
Someone please help me
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I unlocked my phone too and when I messed up with the system files, I sent it to 'MediaMarkt' (the shop from where I bought it), and they sent me my phone back a month later and said that it is out of warranty because of unlocking and rooting, and it was in Spain. But luckily I flashed the system files via fastboot and its working fine now.
I contacted the Citizens Advice consumers service in the UK and they replied with this:
pastebin .com/GpUxggaK (Remove Space, cant post links as I don't have 10 posts)
As a TL;DR they said to contact amazon, and that the UK actually has a 6 year warranty for faulty goods (good god thats a long time) and that they will send a complaint to the trading standards if I give them motorolas postcode and address so that's cool.
I'm expecting my new moto g to come tomorrow thankfully
Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
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Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
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I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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I know this is a bit of thread necromancy (not too bad since it's only a few months old) but I've resolved the issue just in time.
I thought I had lost or thrown away the receipt, but it turns out I had apparently used it as a bookmark for a book I was reading in a doctor's office the same day I purchased the phone and I just decided to finish the book yesterday, took it off my bookshelf and TADA! THERE'S THE RECEIPT!!
I've taken a picture of it and was able to finally proceed with the warranty process and just received an email from moto telling me that my claim has been changed from "on hold" to "open" after being reviewed.
The purpose of this reply is twofold; 1) so I can definitively say that you cannot get a warranty claim through moto directly for no-contract devices without a receipt if they were purchased through another seller rather than straight from moto because they do NOT keep any sort of records that tell them whether or not it's still within the warranty term beyond the manufacture date, so if the phone was physically assembled more than a year ago, the warranty claim system will automatically tell you to provide proof of purchase, and 2) so I can mark this thread solved in case anyone else loses their proof of purchase and searches to see if there's anything you can do (there isn't) if you paid in cash
Whew. My warranty ends 7/17/2016 so I found it just in time!
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I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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Late reply, but THIS is absolutely correct. Though they used to be able to about 7-8 years ago, they have indeed changed their inventory system to having some sort of internal identifier. I've found the receipt, and it has a bunch of numbers for the device, but none of them are the IMEI,HEX,MEID, or even the retail SKU from the original box. There's literally nothing, when looking at the receipt, that would allow them to look up that particular sale just by providing the box.