Hi, I got my Moto G 2nd gen 2 months ago and when I got it there was a slight area of the screen where the glass touched the display too much, making it sorta off colour on that part of the screen like when you press down too hard except this is where the screen is always like that.
Now I feel like it has gotten slightly worse over time and want to use my warranty, however 2 months ago I unlocked the bootloader with the intentions of rooting it (I never gotten round to rooting it in the end)
I messaged moto support last night and they sent me an email saying how I can return it to be repaired but also said:
Motorola will repair and return your phone free of charge under the warranty conditions. If in the event that your phone is found to be out of warranty by the repair centre then please be advised that a quotation and handling charge may be applied. Any damage caused by using unauthorised operating systems, tampering or altering the device firmware and any signs of physical damage that were undisclosed prior to sending for repair will void your warranty and you may be charged for repair.
You can expect the phone to be repaired within 10 working days from its arrival at our repair centre but please allow additional days for postage. Please also note that Motorola do not accept claims for losses incurred by customers not following the process detailed in this message.
This is weird because on another thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574104) it said that even though I unlocked the bootloader, as I live in the EU I legally can get a hardware problem like this fixed by them for free as unless they can prove that unlocking the bootloader did this then they have to fix.
I don't wanna send it off and it come back as they think my warranty is void, how can I assert my rights in a situation like this to get my screen defect fixed?
Many thanks
No reply? Ah well
As an update I had a conversation with the online chat support motorola customer care thing last night, saying how I unlocked my bootloader however I believe that as I live in the EU I still have a warranty set out by a directive (I refered to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 a lot, provided a lot of useful information)
They then forwarded my message onto a relevant department (whoever that was) after saying many times that the warranty was completely void, and I spoke to them again today and they said they got a message back from said department who said the same thing where no repair can be issued as the warranty has been voided. I again tried to assert the EU law but he couldnt help me or even forward me onto someone who could help me, so I gave up.
I'm at a loss people The website in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 said that if they refuse to repair then "you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations." but I would have no bloody idea on how to do that.
To expand, I bought the device on Amazon but it has been more than 2 months since I got the device so I have no option to message them about the device specifically.
Someone please help me
My advice is to actually call your local Motorola service and speak to a person instead of writing them. If they still refuse your repair you should contact amazon as they have a very accommodating return policy. Last step is to visit your local consumer protection office and ask for legal support.
Bte from which country are you from?
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My advice is to actually call your local Motorola service and speak to a person instead of writing them. If they still refuse your repair you should contact amazon as they have a very accommodating return policy. Last step is to visit your local consumer protection office and ask for legal support.
Bte from which country are you from?
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The UK, I'm looking at Amazon and through my previous orders I cant contact them about my phone order anymore as its been more than 2 months, do you reckon I should just send an email to them anyway?
Thanks for replying by the way
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The UK, I'm looking at Amazon and through my previous orders I cant contact them about my phone order anymore as its been more than 2 months, do you reckon I should just send an email to them anyway?
Thanks for replying by the way
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Amazon have a great returns policy, you can contact them for return or refund of items out of the initial returns period using live chat. Use this link
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/contact-us/general-questions.html?skip=true
Use 'An order I placed', select the item and you can chat live with an agent. How you deal with it and what you say is wrong with the phone is then up to you.
If you're in the UK, the Sale of Goods Act is your friend, and holds the seller, not the manufacturer, legally liable for any defects in the product (the key phrases are "not fit for purpose", "not as described", and "not of merchantable quality").
In practice, this often means that you end up dealing with the manufacturer to resolve problems after purchase, since many retailers lack the facility to carry out repairs and end up being a conduit between you and the manufacturer; thus it's often easier to go to the manufacturer directly.
However, that still doesn't remove the seller's obligations under the law, and Amazon's policy doesn't supersede the law. If you've only had the phone for two months, and it was defective from the moment you received it, it's Amazon's legal responsibility to address the issue.
I would recommend requesting a full refund or a replacement with a new device. Make sure to wipe the old one before sending it back. If Amazon refuses to play ball, have a chat with your local Citizens' Advice Bureau. That said, in my experience Amazon is usually willing to abide by its legal obligations after only a little bit of to-and-fro reminding them of said obligations. I've successfully returned a few items more than a year after purchase because they should have lasted for several years (see the "not fit for purpose" mentioned above), although Amazon's initial responses were to suggest that nothing could be returned after thirty days, followed by a suggestion that I take it up with the manufacturer.
Just remind Amazon of the Sale of Goods Act's requirements, and you should be alright.
Thank you so much for the help!
I contacted amazon today rather than Motorola, and it literally took 5 minutes of live chat to get a replacement phone sent to me first class and the return label for the old one to come here. What a difference it is compared to the horrific experience from the Motorola live chat who don't even know the EU directive.
Really happy to now have a replacement coming rather than sending it to a repair centre and having no phone for a week.
Good result, and just as expected from Amazon. Their live chat system for returns/refunds is very straightforward.
I bought mine them too, not quite the cheapest, but worth a couple of quid extra for the piece of mind in case a replacement needed whilst under warranty.
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No reply? Ah well
As an update I had a conversation with the online chat support motorola customer care thing last night, saying how I unlocked my bootloader however I believe that as I live in the EU I still have a warranty set out by a directive (I refered to this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 a lot, provided a lot of useful information)
They then forwarded my message onto a relevant department (whoever that was) after saying many times that the warranty was completely void, and I spoke to them again today and they said they got a message back from said department who said the same thing where no repair can be issued as the warranty has been voided. I again tried to assert the EU law but he couldnt help me or even forward me onto someone who could help me, so I gave up.
I'm at a loss people The website in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56181695&postcount=40 said that if they refuse to repair then "you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations." but I would have no bloody idea on how to do that.
To expand, I bought the device on Amazon but it has been more than 2 months since I got the device so I have no option to message them about the device specifically.
Someone please help me
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I unlocked my phone too and when I messed up with the system files, I sent it to 'MediaMarkt' (the shop from where I bought it), and they sent me my phone back a month later and said that it is out of warranty because of unlocking and rooting, and it was in Spain. But luckily I flashed the system files via fastboot and its working fine now.
I contacted the Citizens Advice consumers service in the UK and they replied with this:
pastebin .com/GpUxggaK (Remove Space, cant post links as I don't have 10 posts)
As a TL;DR they said to contact amazon, and that the UK actually has a 6 year warranty for faulty goods (good god thats a long time) and that they will send a complaint to the trading standards if I give them motorolas postcode and address so that's cool.
I'm expecting my new moto g to come tomorrow thankfully
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I have been reading about peoples problems with their phone and now I'm worried about what if my phone breaks. Can I get it replaced even though I'm not an AT&T customer. I bought it at a CompUSA which is going out of business and signs in the store said All Sales Final No Returns.
do any of ur friends have att? if so just exchange it through their acct. if not you have to go thru HTC directly which isnt fun because u send them your phone..
Don't worry about it. As long as you have the Receipt you're fine.
Call cingular customer service and ask to be redirected to warranty exchange. It's still under it's 1 year warranty and you do have a proof of purchase.
Don't trip out because you got it from CompUSA.
What XBM will do most likely is a.) either send you the replacement and ask that you send the broken phone back ( they'll fill you in on the details ) or b.) they'll redirect you to HTC's warranty exchange process ( almost the same thing but postage paid handling might not be available and/or you may need to send the device to them first. A word of caution though, HTC's warranty exchange may be on the lookout for custom roms.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the respsonses
I can't imagine AT&T being nice enough to exchange a phone for a rival's service. I had to do an exchange with my Hermes several months back before I got my tilt, and I DID have to give my account information and all of that. If I were you I would check into HTC's warranty program. And as far as going through a friend...that may work, but my guess is it would depend on if the IMEI number of your phone has been registered with their system previously or not. I know for sure that some AT&T representatives have been instructed that the warranty is null and void if change of ownership takes place. I had a similar fiasco with that same Hermes, and had to pester them by calling and speaking with 4-5 people before they finally caved in and let me do it. But it took a lot of talking and I'm pretty persistent.
The first thing they ask you is: "can I have your cell phone number starting with area code please" if you don't have an account with them, look for someone that does....
Guess I'm S.O.L. since I got mine on eBay. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with it
Call Asurion & buy the insurance. Mine was like 60.00USD per year.
GSLEON3 said:
Call Asurion & buy the insurance. Mine was like 60.00USD per year.
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Sounds like the best bet.
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I have been reading about peoples problems with their phone and now I'm worried about what if my phone breaks. Can I get it replaced even though I'm not an AT&T customer. I bought it at a CompUSA which is going out of business and signs in the store said All Sales Final No Returns.
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The phone comes with a 1 year manufacturers warrenty.
AT&T will not exchange it for you, unless you're one of their customers. The AT&T exchange requires you have an account with them. It's a service to make things easier for their customers, rather than having to deal direct with the manufacturer.
You'll have to pay for shipping both ways though. To and from HTC if it breaks. Make sure you buy some insurance on it through the shipping carrier. (I shipped a W600i a few years ago and if the phone would have been lost, I would have been SOL).
As long as you have the reciept, at&t will honor the warranty. You will probably have to jump through hoops trying to explain the situation to the support rep, and get tossed around from department to department, but once you find a half-way intelligent representative, they should be able to help you. I had to do the same thing, as I bought my tilt from frys, and I got a RLoD about a month after i got it. Fry's didn't have anymore in stock so I went to the at&t store and used their phone to call the warranty deopartment. They told me they were going to create a non-member account (since i dont have an at&t account) or something of the sort, so that my info would be in their system. All I would have to do is fax them the receipt from frys, and then I would get a replacement from the store. Well it turned out that I had forgotten the reciept so I was gonna come back the next day and get it replaced, but that night I was reading up on the RLOD issue and messing around with my tilt, and I managed to fix it. Long story short, at&t will honor the warranty on an at&t branded phone, provided you have the receipt and a couple of hours to wait on hold. Oh, and the patience to explain your story 12 times to 12 different retards, until you fin a non-tard. laterz.
I worked for the company for several years and no they will not xbm. You need to have a post paid account and also have the imei registered on the account . If you call xbm they will just redirect you to the manufacturer.
OK. HTC officialy denies warranty repair if you have HardSPL and have flashed a ROM from XDA Devs or somewhere else. Now what they do is UNLAWFUL and you can in fact claim your warranty...at least in the EU That's what I did and after a HUGE scandal it worked in Bulgaria. I guess customer protection laws are very similar across the EU. If you live outside of the EU check your local customer protection law. My HD had the black screen problem btw and I also refered to xda-developers topics to proove that it is in fact a general fault and not something related to HardSPL.
- According to the law it's not HTC that is bound by the warrranty, but the seller. This also means that you must see the sellers warranty conditions! This is very important as you have according to the law NO CONTRACT with HTC but only with the seller of your phone and only the seller is responsible for any repairs etc. How the seller deals with HTC is NOT your problem
- Now to the really good part....your statutory rights According to the law (Art.119 and 145 in Bulgaria - check your local law for correspoding articles) only warranty restrictions that are CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDABLE are valid. Everything else is NOT VALID even if stated in the warranty card. To make things even worse for the seller the customer protection authorities are obliged by law to decide every disputable case in the favor of the customer. This means that if they want to deny warranty because of HardSPL they must explicitly say in the warranty that you have no right to modify the bootloader! Even the HTC warranty has no such clauses
So good luck all. If they try to talk rubish to you just threaten them with your local customer protection authorities. In my case it took them exactly 4 hrs after the scandal to produce a new HD.
Interesting reading . Now all I need is for someone in the UK/Ireland to do the same so I don't have to read up on all the laws
Where was this incident, Mtel?
Yes. Mtel After I threatened them with the customer protection commision it took them exactly 4 hrs to fix the unit
Had the same issue here. Lots of bla-bla and I even got my lawyer involved. Dealt with the support center (which is neither the seller nor HTC). They whined a lot, but eventually they sent the unit back fixed.
Yeah these are good news now we have a precedent. If something happens to my HD , maybe the from daily flashing
Hey all,
So I just got off the phone with Samsung Canada and my situation is I had bought my phone used. I have a copy of the Future Shop receipt but the phone was purchased by the original owner back in the summer sometime so the in store policy is no longer valid. When I spoke to the rep at Samsung, I explained to him how my SD Card is not mounting and that it is a hardware defect which based on what I have read online, has been quite a common problem for many Galaxy users. The rep simply replied, the 1 year warrenty does not cover used or refurbished phones. If that is the case, that's rediculous! I can understand if the phone is refurbished but the phone isn't and it was in working order until as of yesterday. Can anyone suggest what I can do? I paid good money for this phone and in less than 2 weeks its now in non working order and I'm being told that the warrenty won't cover a used phone purchase. Your response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
update: Sorry just realized I posted this in the wrong section of the forum. and should be in Q & A or General
I would guess as with most consumer law the onus is on the seller to repair any defects .
Warrant from the manufacturer is usually to the originating purchaser unless otherwise stated .
So take it back to the guy you bought it off is the only path i see .
jje
You're right, this in the wrong section.
But, I would suggest that when you deal with Samsung support, you skip out the part where it's a second hand phone. Deal with them as if you had purchased the phone yourself. They don't need to know you bought it in a private sale. You still have the original purchase receipt, so they can't argue that you aren't the original purchaser.
just for reference
yes you can get it serviced and warrantied at any Bell Store
I did that 2 times already for 2 XDA members from USA that purchased it online 2nd hand
How can they tell you are not the original owner anyway? If you have the receipt, just don't mention that you bought it from someone else.
Just because the phone has been passed on to someone else should be no excuse for them to not honour the warranty.
I went to a bell store in Kitchener on Friday and they wouldn't take the phone. I bought it used (obviously no receipt) and they wanted me to go directly through samsung. Of course samsung told me that I need to go through the store...
AllGamer said:
just for reference
yes you can get it serviced and warrantied at any Bell Store
I did that 2 times already for 2 XDA members from USA that purchased it online 2nd hand
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A simple solution perhaps?
If the seller lives near you have him/her take it to the store with the receipt and give your address as the return address for when it is repaired.
I don't see what the fuss is all about.
You've got the original receipt.
Just use that to make use of your warranty.
Don't mention anything else and you are fine.
Why even mention it to them in the first place?
Damn, look up your consumer rights. You didn't agree to the conditions set forth when the original owner brought the thing. Other then that walk into samsungs repair centre like you own the place
Yesterday I bought a Telus HTC One from a person off of Craigslist ($475), little did I know there is a cluster of stuck pixels along with several more stuck pixels at the top of the phone. I have unlocked it (I bought it locked to Telus, paid $25 for unlock) and put my Bell SIM in it.
The phone came as so:
-Bootloader is "*tampered*" along with an unlocked bootloader (which I can fix, I'm pretty sure: with s-off and re lock)
-Without the Beats Logo on the back (he took it off)
-Running some pre-release 4.2.2 ROM, rather then the stock Telus firmware (I'm sure I can flash the RUU)
-With a scratch on it which wasn't mentioned on the listing
-Digitizer is faulty, multiple stuck pixels and one large cluster (Well, "large" seeing that the pixel density is so high)
Since, I bought this second hand as well as being on Bell (I'm in Canada btw) would I be able to get RMA? As the EULA denounces that I being a second hand buyer can not have the warranty...I however do have the S/N stickers for the RMA and my seller will give me the receipt.
So should I get a refund or risk a possible reject from HTC RMA?
Pictures can be found here
imgur (dot) com/a/KBCdd (sorry for the dot, just add in period to get the url)
Customer shall present the PROOF OF PURCHASE upon claiming this
Limited Warranty. This Limited Warranty may not be sold-on, assigned,
transferred or given to any subsequent purchaser or acquirer of the
Product. This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in the
countries where the Product is sold. Moreover, if Product is returned to
be repaired under
this Limited Warranty in the place other than where you purchased, HTC
attempts to repair such Product but can not guarantee the outcome.
Warranty service availability and response times may vary from country
to country and may also be subject to a registration requirement in the
country of purchase.
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I'm not a legal guy, but hmmm...
If the warranty is non-transferable you will end up paying money for out of warranty repairs. Display module replacement is 180 USD for USA.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
If the warranty is non-transferable you will end up paying money for out of warranty repairs. Display module replacement is 180 USD for USA.
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Well, if I can get the receipt and have the S/N stickers... technically I can say it's mine
Although, will Telus or Bell be able to check the IMEI to see who's it was?
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Well, if I can get the receipt and have the S/N stickers... technically I can say it's mine.
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The phone is yours, the warranty is not. If it was mine I'd be taking it up with the seller, doesn't seem that they were completely honest about the phones condition.
Nope, in almost all cases the warranty is not transferable. Think of it this way, you sign a contract with the seller to give them x amount of money for a certain item and they make you a promise that if the item breaks they will (under certain circumstances) fix it. Selling the phone on violates the original contract which is solely between you and the manufacturer and thus they have no obligation to fulfill the warranty to anyone but the original purchaser. That's the law but often not the practicality. If you have the warranty you may be able to take it into a shop and find a nice sales rep, or you may be able to get the guy who sold it to you to claim the warranty. However from what you have said he doesn't sound very trustworthy. If you have the warranty (piece of paper which came with the original phone) you could try and take it to a Telus store and see what they say.
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The phone is yours, the warranty is not. If it was mine I'd be taking it up with the seller, doesn't seem that they were completely honest about the phones condition.
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Nope, in almost all cases the warranty is not transferable. Think of it this way, you sign a contract with the seller to give them x amount of money for a certain item and they make you a promise that if the item breaks they will (under certain circumstances) fix it. Selling the phone on violates the original contract which is solely between you and the manufacturer and thus they have no obligation to fulfill the warranty to anyone but the original purchaser. That's the law but often not the practicality. If you have the warranty you may be able to take it into a shop and find a nice sales rep, or you may be able to get the guy who sold it to you to claim the warranty. However from what you have said he doesn't sound very trustworthy. If you have the warranty (piece of paper which came with the original phone) you could try and take it to a Telus store and see what they say.
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I think I will Un-Root, Relock Bootloader and get my money back. If all goes well hopefully I can just buy an unlocked international version in the coming months. Should I try and revert it to stock? ( I could probably get better footing in trying to convince him to refund )
Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Okay guys,
I have a 2014 Moto X that I bought brand new at best buy about 7 months ago for cash when my phone broke and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade or had insurance. Now it's suddenly not booting past the little globe animation. I've tried various ROMs, kernels, flashing it back to stock, you name it and no matter what it just won't boot past the damn globe.
So I go to the Motorola site to start the warranty replacement process.... They can't find my device on file whenever I enter the IMEI/MEID and request a copy of my receipt... Which I cannot find. I tried contacting Best Buy thinking they could pull the receipt by the IMEI but according to customer service that isn't something they can do since I paid cash.
Do any of you guys know who I can contact about getting a warranty replacement? My carrier (sprint) doesn't want to help me since I bought the phone with cash outside of my contract and claim they can't verify the warranty term because of that, best buy won't give me a receipt since I paid cash, and Moto won't help me without a receipt. I'm at the end of my rope here and would really like to get this phone replaced under warranty and not have to pay more for the replacement than I did for the original phone (the supervisor in the cell phone Dept discounted it to $49.99 just to get rid of it)
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Without your receipt, there is nothing you can do. When you pay in cash it's important not to loose the receipt because there is no record of when you purchased it other than the receipt they give you during the purchase. Sorry but you will have to pay for the repair yourself since you don't have a receipt.
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Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
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Yeah, that's what I figured was going to happen. I know I didn't throw the damn thing away, I just have to figure out where I left it. It's frustrating that best buy can't look it up by the IMEI though... Or rather, I KNOW that they can and they just won't. When I worked for at&t, we had incidents involving warranty claims where someone would scream and yell about their phone only being six months old but they bought it at best buy with cash, and we were able to call them and have them look it up by the IMEI (most of the time it was a few months out of warranty and the customer knew it) but when I said that on the phone, BB customer service said they've "changed their retail system since then", which I know is a load of BS, they just want me to come buy another phone.
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I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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I know this is a bit of thread necromancy (not too bad since it's only a few months old) but I've resolved the issue just in time.
I thought I had lost or thrown away the receipt, but it turns out I had apparently used it as a bookmark for a book I was reading in a doctor's office the same day I purchased the phone and I just decided to finish the book yesterday, took it off my bookshelf and TADA! THERE'S THE RECEIPT!!
I've taken a picture of it and was able to finally proceed with the warranty process and just received an email from moto telling me that my claim has been changed from "on hold" to "open" after being reviewed.
The purpose of this reply is twofold; 1) so I can definitively say that you cannot get a warranty claim through moto directly for no-contract devices without a receipt if they were purchased through another seller rather than straight from moto because they do NOT keep any sort of records that tell them whether or not it's still within the warranty term beyond the manufacture date, so if the phone was physically assembled more than a year ago, the warranty claim system will automatically tell you to provide proof of purchase, and 2) so I can mark this thread solved in case anyone else loses their proof of purchase and searches to see if there's anything you can do (there isn't) if you paid in cash
Whew. My warranty ends 7/17/2016 so I found it just in time!
AGISCI said:
I used to work for best buy about 6 years ago. They can't look it up by IMEI. The EMEI is not connected to the receipt. It's not that they don't want to, they really can't.
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Late reply, but THIS is absolutely correct. Though they used to be able to about 7-8 years ago, they have indeed changed their inventory system to having some sort of internal identifier. I've found the receipt, and it has a bunch of numbers for the device, but none of them are the IMEI,HEX,MEID, or even the retail SKU from the original box. There's literally nothing, when looking at the receipt, that would allow them to look up that particular sale just by providing the box.