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I'm not really gettin used to touchflow yet and I'm checking out other options. So... Lets get down to business:
The things that bugs me in touchflow are:
1.the todayscreen not being able to show more calendarevents.
2. the sms screen, the whole layout really
3. The mediaplayer
4. The alarm, every aspect there as well
I know that there are substitute programs for most of these problems BUT as I have to go in and select the appropriate program I fail to see the advantage of Touchflow..
The things I love with Tf3d are its speed and beautiful graphics and they will be soarly missed if I would go with another shell.
Are there any other touchfriendly options?
What are the pros and cons with Spb mobile shell 2.0? Especially regarding these issues!
Yours sinceraly
Adis Hardis
Sorry but I think you're a bit lazy. Why don't you just download a trial of spb mobile shell and see for yourself?
To be fair, I think he wants opinions..
SPB Software always rates highly in my books, I used to use the Shell on my Hermes. My girlfriend used to hate it, as it restricts access to the main features of the phone unless you kill it off.
But I guess if you tweak it to how you want it, then you never need to access the back end of the phone, pretty much like the HTC one I guess.
SMS's are visible (at least the count) on the main screen, and link direct to the pocket outlook folder
Media player - There's non built in, so again it's just a link.
Urm, Alarm again is built in.. Unless you put SPB time on??
Guess its worth a try! There's plenty of support on their forums, and hundreds of themes for it
I'm no expert in these areas but can I install spb without uninstalling? (and loosing all the settings and so forth). Cause thats my main concern!
Lazy or not, thats what forums are there for in my opinion, to get input and help...
Adis Hardis
Ps
Thank you MikeSel
Yeah you can, there simply 'today' plugins so you can disable one, and enable the other.. Make an informed decision and then dump one if you like.. Or just keep both, and leave one disabled
Have fun, and give me a shout if you get stuck!
Nice, I'm on it, thanks for your help Mike!
Peace
Adis Hardis
i just recently installed SPB mobile on my diamond and i love it a lot more then TF3D. I thought TF3D was great at first, but it a shame it's not configurable even with TF3D advanced config etc installed. Only the very basic functionality is available. It does look very good though and maybe the future could hold great things for it. But for now and the near future SPB mobile is the winner for me
-it's better and more customizable
-it's got lot's of good plugins
-the latest version got guestures like touch flow
-runs smooth as silk
-great animation without slowdowns
-all of the functions are easy accessible
Tried spb 2.1 for a week, but changed back to tf3d.
For my use, tf3d its enough and mobile shell, is atm a bit slower than tf3d and i dont like the default look. And with a better looking vga skin its slower than the first versions of manila, so i stay with tf3d.
Is there allready a discussion between those 2 user forntends?
http://www.areamobile.de/specials/Xperia_X1_vs_HTC_Touch_HD/Video.php
In this german comparisson between the Touch HD vs Xperia X1 the Touch HD was winning 3:2 and one reason was the better user interface of TFL3D vs the Panel system from the X1 but they have not taken the spb Mobile Shell into consideration which is available for free for the X1.
Beside that they have not rated the battery capacity, so at the end I would say that for both devices it is at least 50:50 and the user have to decide what direction he want to go - more multimedia with a bigger screen or more business with better battery and keyboard.
This is the background of my question. And I think it is a fair question because the spb Mobile Shell is free for the X1.
Claus
PS: Me personaly I am more in favor of the X1 (because of the battery and the hardware keys)
dingolino said:
In this german comparisson between the Touch HD vs Xperia X1 the Touch HD was winning 3:2 and one reason was the better user interface of TFL3D vs the Panel system from the X1 but they have not taken the spb Mobile Shell into consideration which is available for free for the X1.
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Add to that that the Touch HD TFL3D is already ported to xperia and then the whole decision is based on if you want a hardware keyboard or prefer a larger (in size) screen.
For me the hardware keyboard wins by far.
XavierGr said:
For me the hardware keyboard wins by far.
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agree
can't wait to have my xperia...
Maybe somebody who has both
TFL3D and spb mobile Shell on his X1 could comment?
Claus
they are about the same...you can do more stuff with mobile shell, but TF3d looks better...so its a matter of taste really...just install both and try
SPB Mobile Shell seems far superior to me. TF3D is way too slow and requires several more clicks to get to where you want to go. It looks great, but also is less responsive and slows down the rest of your phone's interface.
One issue I have with Mobile Shell is that the task manager seems to have disappeared. Does anybody know how to get this back? It is still running, as I can see the icon flickr in it's spot sometimes, but for the most part it is gone. Also, I can't seem to uninstall TF3D which is ridiculous.
Task Manager will disappear when you use SPB Mobile Shell Panel!
+1, same here. The task manager icon on the right corner of the screen will disappear when switching to SPB Mobile Shell Panel. That's just a really wield bug and Xperia staff did not test it thoroughly at all before release!
Touch3d slows the phone down quiet alot, and crashes and is not 100% usable right now (some things still need more work to be done to be usable on xperia)
the spb on the other hand is faster, designed for the xperia, free. It is not impressive, but it is "efficient".
Efficiency is everything.
Sure, TF3D looks great but, as previously stated, eventually it slows down the device to the point where you just want to cry, alternatively, throw it out the window. I also suspect touchflo eats battery like crazy. Besides, Mobile Shell looks pretty good as well.
TF3D was great fun for a while but now I realize it really isnt very useful. I'd rather have quick and responsive before shiny and cool.
SCtud said:
SPB Mobile Shell seems far superior to me. TF3D is way too slow and requires several more clicks to get to where you want to go. It looks great, but also is less responsive and slows down the rest of your phone's interface.
One issue I have with Mobile Shell is that the task manager seems to have disappeared. Does anybody know how to get this back? It is still running, as I can see the icon flickr in it's spot sometimes, but for the most part it is gone. Also, I can't seem to uninstall TF3D which is ridiculous.
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I'd also like to know how to get the HTC task manager to show up in the upper right while using SPB mobile shell...
dinan said:
I'd also like to know how to get the HTC task manager to show up in the upper right while using SPB mobile shell...
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Indeed, me too - its the main thing that stops me settling on SPB at the moment! Ruddy stupid bug, that one!
i've figured out the solution to not having the task manager is to install aeb plus and set one of the buttons to open it's own proprietary task manager (i've set it to double click the right silver button).
works awesome and i don't have to rely on touching the corner of the touchscreen which requires using two hands.
I'm still trying to figure this out too. Very inconvenient
I think you'e missing the point.
SPB panel tries to place as much stuff as possible, into 'thum-able' icons so u can use the phone one handed without the stylus, hence task manager is located under the tool menu with large close this, close all options.
The only bug I found so far on SPB is the quick contacts, when you switch from portrait to landscape you lose the first entry in the list....very annoying.
I've used TFL3D and while very pretty the usability of SPB is greater hence i've switched back, my only requirement would be the ability to skin the SPB UI, now that would be cool
I'm experiencing some troubles with SPB, while I really enjoy using it, sometimes the phone freezes after using SPB for a while and then pressing the "panel" button.
Anybody else have this problem?
SBP on Xperia and task manager
When SBP pannel is active, the task manager is still accesible through the Button "Tools". It is removed from the corner to make it more "finger friendly". When you launch it, it displays the task list and then you have similar options than in the standard WM task manager, but arranged as a list of big buttons.
I agree that loading touchflo 3D slows down the UI (and eats 30Meg of memory). SBP is"ugly" but quick and efficent, specially if you remove the animations. However if you've used SBP in other WM device, there are lots of possibilities to customize backgrounds, colors, fonts etc. Maybe they want to get people used to it and then launch a "pro" version of the panel with enhanced look and functions (and not for free obviously)..
may i know whats the function of the Spb shell? Installed it,it's there in the settings, but no single change in the phone.
Uhhh..its a user interface. Add it to your panels and try it out.
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Uhhh..its a user interface. Add it to your panels and try it out.
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TYVM. But how will i add it into a panel?
...push the panels button, push the icon that looks like a spanner, choose a blank panel, pick the panel you want to assign (it's in the user manual).
Does anyone know of an alternative to TouchFlo 3D. I spoke to an HTC technician who told me that he uses a better program for his Diamond that has better response times etc, but he wouldn't say what it was. I was complaining about the response times on the phone.
He probably meant PointUI, SPB Mobile Shell, Winterface or any number of alternatives. Been trying SPB Mobile Shell 3 which is pretty good (there's a free trial) but my fav so far is PointUI (free "light" version) - http://www.pointui.com
There are also a couple of iPhone clone interfaces in the Development and Hacking section.
Thanks a lot for that echolock. I am just downloading the free Pointui to the phone. Do I have to disable TouchPro 3d before loading it or will it do that automatically. I am fairly new to the phone so please excuse my ignorance.
Yes, you have to disable TF3D before using PointUI.
After all, if you decide to keep PointUI instead of TF3D, you have to flash your phone with a naked Rom so you gain space and memory.
Do you know how to disable TF3D. My phone is an Orange branded one if that makes a difference. They use thier own ROM. I can't find a way to disable it anywhere. I have downloaded Pointui directly to the phone but I can't start the program. It isn't in programs. I have found it in my documents. Can you help.
Go to start-settings-today, under items, untick touchflo.
Thanks for that. TF3D is now disabled. Any idea how i load Pointui onto my phone now?
Download the program (which is a .CAB file) to your computer, then copy to the phone (storage card is best area)
Then, using FileExplorer, naviagte on the phone, to the location you saved it, and click on the program, it'll ask a few things, just click the left soft button.
Thanks for that. Installed it and works fine. It does seem beeter than the TF3D.
I use scott seligman's launcher on the standard windows today screen,it just add's program icon's to today screen,one tap open's any application,no sliding this thing here,flipping this there,scrolling up or down.
It's not finger friendly though,unless you have pointy little finger's,or usually use a stylus anyway,but it doesn't get much faster or less resource hungry than this simple app.
WAD from lakeridgesoftware.com is pretty incredible
let me know what you think
So, I've decided to reflash my Xperia after I played with some of the settings and managed to make the whole thing really slow, choppy and buggy. There's nothing wrong with the device, I've just messed things up a bit. Nothing to worry, I'm not a newbie with stuff like this, just a bit over-enthusiastic and overconfident at times.
So, to the point, I'm looking for better alternatives to the ROM and software I already have. I'll give you a quick run-down of the stuff I have, the stuff I love and the stuff I never use with my Xperia.
The stuff I have:
-SEX1 R3.61 Barebone ROM (and all the apps et al that came with it) with SEX1cons F v3
-SPB Mobile Shell 3.x (the newest one ATM with the Weather widget)
-G-Alarm
-Opera Mobile (newest Beta)
-Opera Mini
-Pocket Player
-Google Maps
-VistaHide Battery Gauge
-Some YouTube stuff I would use if they worked properly (which they don't, partially thanks to me)
The stuff I love:
-The SPB Mobile Shell above all else. If someone would make a ROM based on the Shell alone, I would flash my Xperia with it immediately. It's got the most conventional interface in any operating system I've ever come across. I just love it.
-G-Alarm. Never has waking up been so easy. (OK, it's still not easy, but at least I do get up nowadays. )
-The conversation-style SMS
-The both Opera browsers (when they work, which is less often than I'd like)
-The tweaked camera of the SEX1 ROM
-Google Maps. I've lost count how many times I would have lost without it.
-The "notes" function.
-Messenger
-The music and video playing capabilities of the device (regardless of programs. I use Pocket Player out of habit and WMP for video playback because the PP can't handle videos all that well)
-VistaHide Battery Gauge & the fancy SEX1cons
The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
-E-Mail. I use E-Mail so seldom anyway, I haven't even bothered to set up an account on my Xperia.
-Panels. They were fun in the beginning, but nowadays I prefer apps to panels. I don't even remember when was the last time I pressed the "X Panel"-button on purpose. Not useless, but unnecessary to me as I never use them anyway.
So, the thing I'm asking is what would be the best choices for a new ROM and whether there's some software I should consider adding or replacing some of my old apps with? For me, a ROM is just something to install SPB Mobile Shell over, so there's no need for a fancy interface or loads of apps or anything. Just the bare essentials; a fast and stable ROM plus some of the basic apps (calculator et al I seldom use, but couldn't live without). I'm not a conservatist, so I'm not afraid to abandon any of the stuff I have for something better if there is.
Also, as I obviously have to backup my PIM data, do most of the backup apps out there function correctly with the conversation-style SMS messaging?
Give me a hand here, guys, I know your collective brainpower and knowledge far exceeds mine, that's why I asked you in the first place. Thanks in advance of any tips, suggestions etc. you could give me.
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Hey, if I wouldn't need the help I wouldn't have asked. It's a sign of respect, you know? That I trust in your knowledge? You don't need to answer to anything. Even small opinions and pieces of information are more than welcome.
I recently flashed my X1i, tbh it was piss easy, just install hardspl and copy the image to ur SD card!
I would suggest trying EnergyRom, or if u need Jack's 4.x full if u need asian language support
SPB Mobile shell 2.0 is was my favourite, but that was easily replaced by Touchflo3d!
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
As I told, I'm not a newbie with this stuff. It's pretty dang easy, it's just that as you guys've been here longer than I, you naturally know more about the different ROMs and software than I do. I'm not asking you how to flash or anything, I'm asking you which ROM would best suite my needs and whether or not I should replace some of the apps I've been using so far with something better.
I took a quick look at the EnergyRom and if the author knows his stuff (which it seems), it seems like a cool pile-o'-bytes. I'll take it into consideration.
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
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Yup, I know. If you read my post through, I just asked you people for possible better alternatives for the apps I've been using so far. I know how to install stuff and anything.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
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I was thinking that, too, but then decided to post here as I'm not specifically talking about ROMs alone, but the whole device's software in general.
I agree with Mjollnir1983, jackleung's "Jack V4.x Lite" would most likely be a good choice for you. I also agree that Touch Flo 3D is better the SPB Mobile Shell, but that's your personal choice. If you wanted to try TF3D, "Jack V4.x Medium" would be a good combination of a clean rom and TF3D. I personally like agent_47's "Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm", because it is has TF3D and is a fast rom with some useful apps. However it may have to many apps for you. If you decide you like agent_47's roms, then "Xperio" might work out alright. It doesn't have TF3D, but still has some good HTC stuff that makes it look better and is a more clean rom than firestorm. Links are bellow. Also I thought I would mention that QuickGPS is something you might want to keep, because it helps Google Maps get a satellite lock quicker. It doesn't always work great, but their are some fixes if your having problems with it.
Jack V4.x Lite / Medium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543073
Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm / Xperio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
I tried the TouchFLO 3D on my friend's cell and it seemed okay after a short while of getting used to. Not that different from SPB Mobile Shell and no disadvantages whatsoever compared to it. I'll give it a shot. Thanks a million, guys.
Now, the biggest question is whether or not there's a PIM backup app available that works correctly with the conversation-style SMS. (At the moment every time I restore a backup, it only restores the messages I've sent, not received. It's the messaging app itself that is responsible, cos I've tried several backup apps.) Is there, or is it just the messaging app I've tried to tweak that is responsible?
About the other apps... Well, I'll do some research myself. I'll probably stick with at least some of them for a while.
Um... I don't know man, there are thousands of apps. I think ROMs are down to personal preference and you should just try many of them to find the best one for you. From the top of my head:
Pocket Music - best music player IMHO.
SkyFire - nice broswer for flash heavy sites.
HTC mp3 trimmer WVGA - perfect for making your own ringtones.
SKTools, advanced config and xperia tweak - best tune up software there is.
SPB Online - online games, radio and TV.
MyMobiler - lets you control the X1 from your PC.
Innobec Side Window - use the X1 as a secondary screen for your PC.
Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer.
SPB Weather
SPB Insight - RSS feeds.
HTorch - pocket flashlight.
WinMobileTorrent
Core Player - best player for every video file except mp4 (use WMP for that).
MS Reader - E-Book reader.
Skype mobile
MorphGear - perfecr emulator for every old game possible.
WK Task - best task manager/launcher/x button.
Homescreen ++ - lets you check your temp, cpu speed, ram usage and more, directly on your homescreen. You can havega taskbar launcher as well. This app is a must.
There are many more, but you have to be more specific about what you want.
Cheers
Tych0n said:
The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
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You have the internal GPS of the Xperia!!!
Google maps use A-GPS need data connection to work. The normal GPS is free (exception of software and maps).
@orelsi: Thanks, I'll take a look at those shortly.
kremlincrackers: The more you know...
Thanks a lot, I wasn't aware of that at all. That means I should keep the QuickGPS, then.
EDIT: I started flashing the Jack V4.x Medium ROM. Let's see what this thing's capable of...
What you're looking for is a similar version of what I have,
You could have any light/fast ROM, I prefer to use a tweaked ROM with cache and memory enhancements. At present I am using WM 6.5 but it's even more stable with 6.1
Then SPB Shell 3, as for applications adn in addition:
- Removed X Panels and remapped panel key to Resco Explorer.
- TOMTOM this is essential, if you wish not to spend money on it there are some free alternatives, although not as good.
- Resco Explorer and Registry editor
- SBP Television, Insight, Snapshot and Imageer.
- My Mobiler
- Finger Keyboard
- World Card Mobile
- Rhodium Dialer
Cumps
Okay, fellas, thanks for the help!
I tried the ROMs mentioned above, but finally settled for the awesome Touch X ULTIMATE X-TREME 10.1 Original Green which was suggested to me by a friend of mine. I can't praise it enough. I've used 8-12 ROMs (including big names like Valkyrie, Touch-IT and SEX1 R3) in the past and it's ultimately the fastest and most stable of them. As long as it keeps running as well as it is ATM, I seriously doubt I'll ever change the ROM again. The only tweaks I had to make were adding a Programs-tab to the TF3D and removing all the Panel Manager stuff while rebinding the panel key to Pocket Player.
Give it a shot, guys. You might fall in love just like I did.
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
Register, participate and enjoy the most stable bug-free winmo 6.5 in my opinion.
Clean and ready to customize at owner's discretion.
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Omnia 2 and I'm planning to get an ultra-ultra-lite 6.5.5 ROM as I really don't like most of the Samsung stuff.
My intention is to get a "off the shelf" UI manager. I've been looking into PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell mainly. I also have seen Vito Winterface and some custom stuff like xda Touch Flo 3D.
Can someone provide a short review on those?
My concerns:
1) Don't get a laggy device because of the UI
2) Do not loose all the memory on the UI management.
3) Not to have a battery eater UI (read bad things about Spb MS)
4) Have a solution that handles not only the home screen but has additional managers for contacts, calendar, media, weather etc..
5) Have a nice applications panel, a home screen with weather, appointments and messages.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
I guess that the UI is a personal choice. I liked SPB MS very much, but unfortunately it is not a free app.
Thanks Junal... I agree and I don't mind to pay. My biggest concern is to use almost all the RAM only for the UI.
Unfortunately there is still 100MB from 256 reserver by samsung:/
Bu according to SPB Mobile Shell it is the best for me too
c3p9 said:
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Omnia 2 and I'm planning to get an ultra-ultra-lite 6.5.5 ROM as I really don't like most of the Samsung stuff.
My intention is to get a "off the shelf" UI manager. I've been looking into PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell mainly. I also have seen Vito Winterface and some custom stuff like xda Touch Flo 3D.
Can someone provide a short review on those?
My concerns:
1) Don't get a laggy device because of the UI
2) Do not loose all the memory on the UI management.
3) Not to have a battery eater UI (read bad things about Spb MS)
4) Have a solution that handles not only the home screen but has additional managers for contacts, calendar, media, weather etc..
5) Have a nice applications panel, a home screen with weather, appointments and messages.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I have the same concerns regarding SPB shell..!! I used PointUI Demo version ( or the Lite version if you prefer..) and it was simply zippy.. The UI is good and the shell doesn't lag.. All in all, i would definitely recommend it over SPB as i found the UI and memory management better..!!..
In case you *don't* want any extra shell running on your WinMo ( and eating precious RAM ) , i prefer using Resco File Explorer and its Today plugin.. It is easy to use with minimum RAM/CPU needed.. And you can see the RAM, CPU,Battery and Storage space info from the Home screen.. Plus you can also add any number of shortcuts to the plugin to suit your needs.. I use it in conjuction with SPB weather ( which also uses a Today plugin..) and my phone stays zippy throughout the day.. Yet to see any lag due to it's use..!!
Attached a screenshot for the same..
Samsung Today...
I use Samsung Today, which is just a better all round experience than the rubbish TouchWiz widget thingy (in my opinion!). You need one of the newer ROM's though as it wasn't included in the last ROM release from Samsung... by last, I mean official release. Secany, over at MoDaCo has the latest JA5 available, which does include this - just check 'Samsung Today' in the 'Items on Today' option screen
PointUI w/Pointsens v2 for me.
Samsung today rules. It is not as fancy as SPB, but extremely useful and fast.
Used SPB Mobile Shell for several weeks. I admit, it looks good. I don't like the contact manager, it looks awfull. My main issue with it it slows down the Omnia a lot. It consumes a lot of MB's and lags your phone.
I now run Titanium. Put a nice looking, glossy black skin with nice icons on it. I also run PhonEx. Maybe it's not the very best contact system, but it adds a lot of functionality and eye candy. My phone is faster then ever. No issue with loosing memory or closing apps in the background. I enjoy my Omnia more then ever before. No freezes or any issue.
Curious? Try SPB MS for a while. It is a nice UI. But at some point I'm sure you will revert back to Titanium. At that point you will enjoy your Omnia as if it is new
WM 6.5 Rules
Hi everyone....
It's just funny but the best UI was always there! TITANIUM from WM 6.5!
Lightweight
Calendar / Messaging / Weather* / Contacts* / AppLauncher* Plugins
* Additional Plug ins from xda
Straightforward
For the first time Microsoft Mobile is going the right direction!
Maybe they hired some xda fellows?
You can try this ROM ie HD2 Sense UI
I not sure why no one has mentioed yet. Maybe I'm the only one who likes it. But I'm diggin iphonetoday 1.3. I don't use the today plugin. I have actually idsabled the Today, then assign the side button to luacnh the iphotoday exe. I have 80MB of ram on boot. about 76 Once iphonetoday is launched. With this my skyfire browsing experience became mch better as I can multitask
definitely the titanium... add panels and whatever to make it to your liking
JML Panex + JML today rules...
SPB
Only tried Samsung native and SPB MS and prefer MS. Cleaned it some to free around 47mb on bootup. Satisfied with features but would love more free RAM. Less lag than native UI.
Very open to try lighter UIs so i'll keep reading your inputs
47mb is very little. do u have other things booting as well? because i use PhoneEX and MS, and i can boot at 70mb even on stock rom (j6)
i tired pointUI like it very much. but too expensive =p
SPB Mobile Shell, albeit a little slow and paid
Samsung Today (new UI from JA5 ROM) is also excellent, free and customizable
OK.. I am confused with so many diff UI
1. Which is the best UI for Omnia i8000, I need one which is a eye candy and can help show off your OMLed display
2. I am planning to update my Omnia to WinMo 6.5 to get Titanium and TellMe Voice command.. is it worth..?
Titanium plugins are light and become really attractive.
Take a look.
And here are the links if anyone interested.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-verizon-sch-i920-omnia-ii-http-i8000-modaco-com/301662/wm-6-5-titanium-gchris-titanium-skin-wvga-wqvga/
Another one!
Although when I first used Titanium I was not impressed now I love them.
They light, practical and beautiful.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...ntable-skins-mods-plugins-for-omnia-ii-i8000/
I'm actually using SPB Shell around 64-70 MB free on start up, not that bad. Would like to start titanium but I tried everything and cannot get the interface to show -.-;