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Recommendations for good IMAP email client???

I know this is not the place to ask this question, but you guys are experts and I would think you would have the best answer to this question. I need an email client for an IMAP server with TLS...actually it's a Cyrus IMAP server running on SuSE 9.0. Outlook is alright, but I can't just send an email, rather I have to send and receive at the same time. I've tried WebIS mail, but it seems to be really slow.
What are you folks using?
Thanks,
Tom

ProfiMail 2.24 from LonelyCatGames
http://www.lonelycatgames.com

Thanks! I've downloaded it and am going to try it out.
Tom

BeyondtheTech said:
ProfiMail 2.24 from LonelyCatGames
http://www.lonelycatgames.com
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So I have it working. I setup a Rule not to download mail over 2 days old, but it still wants to download my 3300+ emails in my IMAP Inbox. I've read the manual, but can't figure out how to overcome this. Any thoughts? If you want to PM me, feel free.
Tom

Use WEbIS mail 2.11 or Q Mail.....I use Q-Mail....it is the best.....tried Profimail but no good as compared to these.

Hi
As we seem to have warmed up the mail topic is there any solution to an old problem of mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=80049#80049

MDAIIIUser,
A simple solution to your problem is a carrier pigeon. Hahahahaha. oooh, too much coffee.
I found that an IMAP email service works best. I use linuxmail.org. If offers great spam filtering (sometimes too good) and since they offer IMAP as well as POP (which I never use) I can get the same mail at my office, home, PDA, brother's house, guest computer....anywhere. Dump the activesync and outlook/smtp idea and try imap. Linuxmail.org, also has the ability to check POP servers for mail.
I just thought having an imap server might work better for you than regular POP. Linuxmail.org is $25/year, but I'm sure there are others.
Tom

Tom
Do I read you in the way that linuxmail.org will pick up my mail at pop.mypopmail.com and I will pick up this mail from them, thus I keep [email protected].
You see I am not looking for a [email protected]
dig ? or was that to short?

MDAIIIUser said:
Tom
Do I read you in the way that linuxmail.org will pick up my mail at pop.mypopmail.com and I will pick up this mail from them, thus I keep [email protected].
You see I am not looking for a [email protected]
dig ? or was that to short?
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Oh, I dig Honeybunny. I'm totally down with that. Yo, yo... (I really need to stop drinking so much coffee).
Linuxmail.org (or others...I just run Linux hence my reason for this) can go out, pick up my email from gmail, yahoo, (not sure about hotmail...rememeber linux-user) and put it into my Linuxmail account. Since you're using an STMP account from say, Google, you can always sendmail thru that service. Check on Linuxmail, send on Google. The only downside with that is you won't be able to keep a copy of your sent mail on your IMAP.
This company looks pretty good too: http://1300.runbox.com/ I might test them out, but I don't want to ditch my linuxmail account. Take a look at them.
Tom

One other quick note...for work, we have an IMAP server and I have a Tmobile account for email as well. When I'm traveling (I'll be in the UK June 19th if anyone wants to get together) I can get email from my IMAP server and I will send via my Tmobile account. Tmo has a feature where you specify your email (say, acme.com) and when I send mail on my i-mate it goes thru the Tmo service, but you would see it as [email protected] instead of [email protected]. Its pretty cool.
I'm not too keen on Messaging because it won't allow me to send without receiving first....which is just really, really stupid. I use WebIS Mail to just shoot out an email to someone via the Tmo service. WebIS Mail has got it's own set of issues that I'm trying to deal with now.
Food for thought. Feel free to PM me if you want. I can call ya too.
Tom

hmmmm, I have solved it in a different way ...
mostly due to often accessing my mail from different locations and at the same time willing to keep my mail in one place safe, easy for download ...... I decided to invest in piece of hardware called Linux based Toshiba Magnia SG20 being among other very clever email server for both POP3 and IMAP mail service, ok it was an expense .... but finally now I can access my mail from virtually everywhere and have my mail traffic and storage off the computer I currently use, I can download necessary mail and respond easily, synchronization is no longer an issue with WebIS Mail ;-))

I made my work's IMAP server from an PIII800, 40GB drive, and 1GB RAM. I installed SuSE 9.0 and Cyrus IMAP, Postfix, spamassassin, Sendmail, etc... Cost=$90 and I can access it from anywhere in the world. The computer was an employee's computer which was upgraded. I was going to toss it, but decided to make a mailserver out of it. SuSE was already installed on my work computer, so it really didn't cost me much.
I have to admit, the Toshiba looks interesting. Too bad they don't make it anymore.
While I can take a new Mini Mac and do the same thing for about $500 on a personal level, it's really not worth spending that much time for a personal email server. I'm happy with third party providers.
WebIS is still not running well, so I dumped it and I'm sticking with Messaging. I tried ProfiMail and that had some drawbacks as well.
Tom

Boys and thier toys, 1 gig memory, bit of overkill or not. <Grin>.
Sure its a solution, ms exchange with active sync would work fine for me to, oh yes and my own domain, mx record and a fix ip.... but...
Not all of use are teck heads. No offence but should there not be a solution for say USD 29.95.
Anyway Webis lets you move sent items to a different folder (as in to the active sync folder). Now will have to play with that, work out how to set webis as default mail app. I have now set up up a pop account/folder and that option has gone. Find my sms and waste a lot of time to end up junking it. Oh well what else to do untill a new rom comes out. Still think it sucks unless you are a corparate user with all that nice infra.
Thanks tom

Could someone recommend me an email client that does imap and it's posibble to set on which days of the week from when till when and how often to check for mail automatically?

MDAIIIUser said:
Sure its a solution, ms exchange with active sync would work fine for me to, oh yes and my own domain, mx record and a fix ip.... but...
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Instead of a fixed IP, you could run DynDNS like I do. It tracks your current IP and reroutes everything to your computer. I have cable internet, so my IP changes every couple months, or after a power outage. Your DNS and MX would point to DynDNS and DynDNS would route folks to you. It's a pretty sweet setup.
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Not all of use are teck heads. No offence but should there not be a solution for say USD 29.95.
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I completely agree...about the tech heads. Someone should make something more simple, but I think the expense would be too high since it entails a complete computer system. Linux has an email server built into it while Windows does not, but then you have downsides to using Linux as well.
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Anyway Webis lets you move sent items to a different folder (as in to the active sync folder). Now will have to play with that, work out how to set webis as default mail app. I have now set up up a pop account/folder and that option has gone. Find my sms and waste a lot of time to end up junking it. Oh well what else to do untill a new rom comes out. Still think it sucks unless you are a corparate user with all that nice infra.
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I rarely use Activesync so setting up my email for that is pointless. When I want to send an email, I want to send it now...not when I can get to my computer to run activesync. You should try finding a email company that has an IMAP server. Once you have that, you'll never want POP again.
Tom

bolasz said:
Could someone recommend me an email client that does imap and it's posibble to set on which days of the week from when till when and how often to check for mail automatically?
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If you're talking about doing it on your pda, it's not going to happen. You can set email programs to check every x minutes, but that's about it. If you have your gprs on 24 hours a day, then it might be possible, but otherwise I don't see this as an option with the 3 email programs I've played with (Messaging, WebIS Mail, ProfiMail).
Tom

Ok, so I up the e-mail stream without a paddle.
BTW, The Activesyn I only use to get the contents of my mail box of my Laptop and on to my device. I send mail over wifi on the pop acoount (then have to copy the sent item to the activesycn folder, then sync to get it on the laptop)
I was aware about the DynDNS, won't help my much live between to families, two households and the only thing fixed in my life is the tel number of my Phone and the fact I have a laptop, so no space for hardware that cant be baged in a minute.
So Looks like I need to get my own mymail.com address and some hosting that gives me IMAP.
With all that done still have not found a good E-mail client. (q-mail?)
What was the thread on that subject ???? <GRIN>

Email anytiMe is possible.
yes! Download email any day and anytime without gprs on is possible. Use npop freeware and set it to download email upon execution theN use powerstart Shareware to schedule it to exeCute npop at any day and what time as you like. it will Connect gprs then download then disconnect, perfect!

testdebug
Googled Powerstart and got to many hits, have a homepage were I read what the app does? Found npop.

testdebug,
Keep in mind the question was IMAP, not POP. Will it work on IMAP?
Thanks,
Tom

MY Exchange issue with all ROM's

I have been having with all the ROM's (and I have tried haykuro, JF, Rogers cyano, ramjet, virtudude etc. with the same error message 'cannot create the account, please try again later.'
Now, Moxier, RoadSync Beta and Touchdown all work just fine with the same inputs (SSL, exchange server name, user, passwd, domain etc.) I am giving the HTC mail app.
I Think the problem is ISA. My company uses ISA security.
All the 3rd party apps (Moxier, TD etc.) all support ISA, but I don't think the HTC mail app supports it.
Reason for this post is two-fold:
-I know there were/are others who are in the same boat, thought I'd at least pass this along
-Question is, the new Mytouch 3G announced clearly mentions Exchange support, so I am wondering how that can be since I have tried all variations/ROM's based on cupcake here already with no avail.
The only thing I haven't tried is the stock cupcake update which i don' think has Exchange? So does the MyTouch have a customized ROM or would ISA probably not work on MyTouch as well?
I am guessing the later?
KG

I think i know what is the issue, the account you are trying to create is Secured, and HTC mail client is not secured, and you will have the same issue with MyTouch 3G ,i tried it myself and i've got the same error (

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... the new Mytouch 3G announced clearly mentions Exchange support...
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Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.

username issue
Hi,
Have a look at this Thread
There are some issues with the exchange client, it could also be your server setup, check out Brian's comments in the thread.
That might help.
Cheers,
Jon

Make certain you are on Exchange 2007, 03 has way too many issues w/mobile devices, 07 has many designs based around mobile.

About the Exchange thing:
I imagine they're using advertising speak to say that you can get your Exchang email - which is possible over IMAP (depending on your Exchange server settings, obviously).
From what I understand, Google won't allow the "with Google" tag on phones that include ActiveSync.
The MyTouch3G most definitely is "with Google". So it's probably the IMAP thing.

I think it is the ISA issue. I also have the same problem with the stock HTC activesync exchange software. ISA option is the only difference I notice between the stock HTC activesync and the 3rd party apps (touchdown, moxier, etc)

lancealtar said:
Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.
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Here is where i saw it, under Communication, it says Exchange supported:
http://androidcommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/t-mobile_mytouch_3g_fact-sheet_2.JPG

joners said:
Hi,
Have a look at this Thread
There are some issues with the exchange client, it could also be your server setup, check out Brian's comments in the thread.
That might help.
Cheers,
Jon
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Jon, ya, i have tried everything on there....besides, i don't have a user/pwd issue, it just keeps saying 'Account cannot be created'.

ckrest said:
Make certain you are on Exchange 2007, 03 has way too many issues w/mobile devices, 07 has many designs based around mobile.
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huh? this is not my decision to make. My company uses 2003, that's that. Dunno if/when they will upgrade to 2007, point was that 2003 works fine with Moxier, TD and Roadsync, that is all the other 3rd party apps work, only the HTC app doesn't work.

exchange contacts sync
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?

lancealtar said:
Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.
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linked directly from this very link you posted:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218100660

where i work we use Zimbra which has an "exchange" server. It utterly fails on any HTC exchange support
touchdown works perfectly, iphone exchange works perfectly. Pre exchange works perfectly.
Right now this is the single biggest "fail" with android.

So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG

kgdg said:
So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG
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there is zero support for exchange most official builds. the builds that do have it, use HTC's poor implementation.

mongofrye said:
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?
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Here are some of my observations.
-JAC Hero - my HTC exchange works fine. Just can't seem to include original email in replies. I can't cut/paste either. No HTML.
**is this the same in Rogers builds?
-Dudes Rogers - wouldn't create account similar to you issue. Went back to hero.
JAC Hero - I reinstalled, but did not set up email durin begining phone setup. Later when configuring it would connect, show my folders, then fail to create account. I did a logcat and it is trying to delte an account that does not exist.
JAC Hero - reflashed and setup during phone setup and it works fine.
***anybody know the difference for HTC mail between Rogers and Hero??
I'd like to give Rogers a more solid try but need exchange.
-oldsk00lz

mongofrye said:
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?
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I got the same issues that you have with contacts i have tried the ravenge rom, The dudes rom and they i end up with the same error client server conversation error, sometimes i get "error occurred on the computer running the exchange server" and the only way to get rid of it if to delete the account and try again i have 586 contacts... My colleague has a G1 and running any of the above mentioned Rom's he gets no errors he has 150 contacts.
It could be that its toooo many contacts for the sync to handle, i have created a new Exchange account imported my 586 contacts and i will let you know how it goes in a day.
I cant live without exchange!!!! and i don't fancy buying touchdown (even though it works really well)
help solving this issue will be higly appreciated

kgdg said:
So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG
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Then go get a Windows Mobile phone people are trying to help you, no need to be so impatient. Who can you really blame if it is a compatibility issue between Exchange 2003 and the app? HTC or your company for not keeping things up to date?
Also, I wouldn't say this thread belongs in Android development.

kicker1 said:
I got the same issues that you have with contacts i have tried the ravenge rom, The dudes rom and they i end up with the same error client server conversation error, sometimes i get "error occurred on the computer running the exchange server" and the only way to get rid of it if to delete the account and try again i have 586 contacts... My colleague has a G1 and running any of the above mentioned Rom's he gets no errors he has 150 contacts.
It could be that its toooo many contacts for the sync to handle, i have created a new Exchange account imported my 586 contacts and i will let you know how it goes in a day.
I cant live without exchange!!!! and i don't fancy buying touchdown (even though it works really well)
help solving this issue will be higly appreciated
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NO luck with new exchange account and imported contacts help help help!!

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NO luck with new exchange account and imported contacts help help help!!
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I have the same problems... I have 138 contacts. I plan to back them up and strip there content down, like removing comments and contact images and see if that helps.

Best free Email client! Push For all!

I was browsing around and came across that Seven, www.seven.com
Has clients for the magic and the htc dream.
For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
the beta sign up is here.
http://community.seven.com/choose.html

I'd hold off on this one. Have you seen their issue list for the Android version? It's longer than my leg!
It does look interesting though. Does it accomplish PUSH via SMS like everyone else? If so, can I register my Google Voice # to get SMS free? I should probably post this on their forums

thanks, imm downloading it now been wishing for a normal email client for ages!
ok tryed it!
the sign up is only for the forum you dont need to sign up for anything to use the app.
when i first ran the app it asked me for my phone number, i put in a bogus one out of curiosity and my push notifications still worked.
so needless to say, I LOVE THIS APP!!!!!!!

this is looking nice. a few bugs, like it keeps asking me if i want to add another account... and i don't have another to add but i guess its nice it asked ;p Should be nice once it develops.

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For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
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Yeah, read about this service last year. Interesting to know it is developing an Android client.
However, I can't be the only one who thinks that for a true smartphone platform like Android, it makes little sense (and indeed adds unnecessary uncertainty and security issues) to be routing mail through an intermediate party when there are applications that can connect directly to the mail server.

i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?

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i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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Doesn't the mail have to go through their servers? How else would it be delivered via SMS?

its not delievered by sms.....

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its not delievered by sms.....
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How else would they do push?

same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....

Freedomcaller said:
same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....
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As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
The old "PULL" method is where the mail app reaches out to the server every so often and downloads any e-mails if it finds them. This of course wastes battery life since it does this polling regardless.
The "PUSH" is different in such a way that the server sends specifically-formulated SMS's that are intercepted by the GMail/iPhone Mail/other mail apps. These apps then prevent these SMS's from showing up as SMS, and instead they reach out and grab the e-mail from the server. This saves battery life by eliminating scheduled polling, while at the same time provides that "instant" e-mail feel.

Chahk said:
As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
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The GMail app does not use SMS to push, it can maintain a TCP connection, as does most other "push" type applications.
If Seven does not use SMS to push then mea culpa. However, from the looks of their website, all data still has to route through their servers.

i read through thier privacy statement on thier website. is sais they dont store any of your data. altough it dosnt say it does not route through...

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i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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They ARE the THIRD PARTY

you can compare it simliar to how blackberry works. everything is routeted through blackberry's servers before it hits your phone. blackberry being the third party. that's why when you sign up for a BB plan, u get BIS or BES, it all goes through blackberrys servers. It isnt like microsoft's direct push where the connection is only from the server to your phone, no third party. I used seven when i had WMO, it was ok, it doesnt use SMS.
you download an app to your phone and you connect the app to seven's servers. this keeps a constant connection and when you get email, seven willl alert the app which notify you and download the email. it was ok, but the app was very laggy and it was a major battery killer.

Better Exchange email and calendar for Froyo?

So i love the captivate for phone calls, web, movies and other things, but when it comes to email and calendar it sort of sucks. Samsung just did a poor job. In email, deletes take forever (even with lag fix); read messages are hard to see because the transparency is whacked; calendar doesn't let me edit an event I created on the PC; no subfolders under inbox, etc.
I don't care about security - that is I don't need an APK with security removed or reduced, I just want better email.
Besides buying Touchdown do i have any options? K-9 doesn't do true push.
I was hoping we would see vanilla 2.2 ROM that used what Google was building in for Calendar and Exchange, but not yet. S
Suggestions? Anyone else as frustrated as me?

So everyone his happy with stock email and calendar, or no one uses Exchange?

alphadog00 said:
So everyone his happy with stock email and calendar, or no one uses Exchange?
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nope. i use touchdown

Pirateghost said:
nope. i use touchdown
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Yeah, but it still has some lag. I think i may be finally ready to throw in the towel on the Captivate. The form factor is great, the screen is great, and as a phone it is great; But even with the lagfix, it still takes time to open or manage anything with a decent database behind it. Samsung really made some dumb design choices.
I think i will give it one more week and see if I can stand Touchdown.

also interested in a better email. what choice do we have?

Go to the rom section, flash phoenix 4.5....live happily ever after.
It truly flies
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electroau said:
Go to the rom section, flash phoenix 4.5....live happily ever after.
It truly flies
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really?
your recommendation for better email and calendar is to flash a rom that has the same app as all the other roms?
sigh...

Android in general has a lousy email system. This isn't just a Samsung thing. The native email client just lacks so many of the essential features, especially for Corporate Active Sync accounts. I sure hope that Google makes some updates soon to this area on these phones. Touch down does the job but you're right, it's slow. As for K9, it does have true push technology. By configuring your account via IMAP, you can setup an IDLE connection which is Push. I have K9 set up with a couple other accounts and I receive notifications within seconds of mail hitting the server. However, K9 is full of features and if you're not familiar with it, it can take quite some time to get it set up just right for your account.
In regards to other ROMs with better email clients, I've flashed quite a few of them including Pheonix 4.5 and they're all pretty much the same. Currently I'm running Andromedia 1.1 (which is absolutely amazing), and the email client runs much better. But also, the whole phone is extremely fast. It's the only ROM that has actually put a WOW on my face in regards to performance. If you haven't tried that ROM I highly recommend it. As long as you do a clean flash from stock no bugs should be encountered. Everything just works and works fast!
Good luck!

I thought lag was the issue, sorry
Sent from my captivate using the flames of the phoenix

yeah man. if your phone lags, you're definitely behind the times or still running eclair. which is absolutely horrible. you need to go flash phoenix or firelfy. they have little to no lag at all and a quick as hell. i'm not sure what email you use but i use gmail and it's almost faster than i can push the buttons.

electroau said:
I thought lag was the issue, sorry
Sent from my captivate using the flames of the phoenix
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task650 said:
yeah man. if your phone lags, you're definitely behind the times or still running eclair. which is absolutely horrible. you need to go flash phoenix or firelfy. they have little to no lag at all and a quick as hell. i'm not sure what email you use but i use gmail and it's almost faster than i can push the buttons.
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guys,
if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did

I use the Paragon 5.1 ROM and the stock email in there to connect to Hotmail that has been set up as an Exchange Active Sync partner for mail, calendar, and contacts. I can update on phone or pc and it is really instantaneous. I enter something on my phone calendar and it shows up online within 10 seconds. Same goes for adding or editing new contacts in my phonebook.

Pirateghost said:
guys,
if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did
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Seriously man? That's a bad statement. I'm not an iPhone fan but have used one in the past an can tell you that with email it blows Android away. You even get the ability to have notifications for sub-folders in active sync which is huge. However, even though email seems very basic on Android with exchange it does sync reliably for email, contacts and calendars. What specific features are you looking for?
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greystealth said:
Seriously man? That's a bad statement. I'm not an iPhone fan but have used one in the past an can tell you that with email it blows Android away. You even get the ability to have notifications for sub-folders in active sync which is huge. However, even though email seems very basic on Android with exchange it does sync reliably for email, contacts and calendars. What specific features are you looking for?
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notes, tasks, proper signature support, html emails. how about when you have an event in your calendar that has a phone number it would let you tap that number to call it? yes, there are hacky ways of getting these features, but nothing all wrapped up in one package...except for touchdown. the ONLY thing i dont really like about touchdown is the interface, it needs to be more customizable or blend better with the way the rest of the phone looks, instead of sticking out like a sore thumb.
i had iphones for nearly 3 years, and i currently have an ipad also, and the email was acceptable. no, android isnt caught up to that yet, but its getting there and i completely support the push forward. i would still pick my android over going back to the iphone. you do realize that it took nearly 2 years for the iphone to get proper exchange support right? since android is basically just now getting into supporting exchange (as of version 2.0? 2.1?), we should see some good stuff on the horizon in the near future.

Op, have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821297&highlight=exchange
I have, and it has better folder support, and seems to work pretty well for ActiveSync. The folder navigation is much easier.
Use Root explorer, go into /system/app/ , rename Email.apk to Email.old and email.odex to emailodex.old, reboot, and your email app will be missing.
Just open this .apk with "my files" or any file manager, or Root explorer, and install.
See if that works better.
One place where the IPHone e-mail client works much nicer is when you have a lot of folders in your mailbox. Navigating is easier than the ultra-stupid "scroll like a madman left-and-right" method of the stock client.. I use ActiveSync as well, and I find the ActiveSync support, while improved in 2.2, can be very "kooky" for lack of a better term.
Hope that helps.
PirateGhost My friend moved the Touchdown client to the SD card and said he felt it was faster, but he's not lag-fixed or rooted, so I don't know what his frame of reference is. Might be something you could try.

I just installed an app called "enhanced email" Its much like the native email client but works much smoother. You can also move stuff between folders and it seemlessly integrates into all your other stuff. Check it I'm loving it so far.
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greystealth said:
I just installed an app called "enhanced email" Its much like the native email client but works much smoother. You can also move stuff between folders and it seemlessly integrates into all your other stuff. Check it I'm loving it so far.
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Looks like an interesting alternative to TouchDown.
Does it support peak/off peak sync scheduling? I looked through their market listing and their forum but I couldn't find an answer.

I just checked and it does not. It also doesn't do notes or tasks. I would say that Touch down is more robust. This app is very much like the default email app but better.
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if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did
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I would like to correct you as I am using FireFly and I have ZERO lag with the stock email client. I use it for email, calendar, and contact sync. I'm very happy with it and it does everything I need. So, flashing a custom ROM will make your phone faster including email...

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I would like to correct you as I am using FireFly and I have ZERO lag with the stock email client. I use it for email, calendar, and contact sync. I'm very happy with it and it does everything I need. So, flashing a custom ROM will make your phone faster including email...
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do you have any idea how a rom works or what it consists of?
what you have said makes NO sense whatsoever based on that context. i have been working on andromeda in its various stages since DECEMBER. i have tried EVERY ROM available to us on both of my captivates, i have tried EVERY form of lagfix/filesystem available, even your coveted firefly....and i can tell you that it doesnt matter what rom you are on...there is a lag. im not talking about the time it takes you to get the email from the exchange server to the phone, or variances between outlook and the phone, i am talking about opening FOLDERS and emails. there is a lag in the system.... if you think otherwise, you are lying to yourself to make it all feel better.
also, how about you open up an item on your calendar (conference call for example) and tap on the phone number to dial the line....
go on....
im waiting....
unless of course you are using the AOSP email app which allows that....in that case, set yourself up a signature in your settings and REPLY to an email....see if that signature is there.
how come we cant get all these exchange features in ONE app? touchdown doesnt include them all, but its the best available right now
sorry, but exchange support is MINIMAL at best in Android, so please keep the 'this rom cured aids!!' talk out of it. i never said a custom rom wouldnt make your phone faster, i just said it doesnt help EMAIL WITH EXCHANGE

IMAP problems

I've tried many apps now to use my schools email which uses IMAP. Each and every app gives me the "handshake failed" even though all of the other settings are correct. Is this issue an android problem, nexus problem, or something on their end of the server? It worked for a while on my G3 with the new gmail but then it suddenly stopped and hasn't worked since.
My theory is the type of authentication used changed from SSL to TTLS and the apps won't work because of this. So far my university said to just use chrome but the email site is horrible and not made for mobile phones.
Any help is appreciated.
I've tried these apps so far:
AOSP email app
Gmail
K9 Email
Microsoft Outlook

Don't know if it will fix your problem, bit MailWise is great. I wish I found it earlier.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email

also check out Nine

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also check out Nine
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I love nine, but its not cheap.

rootSU said:
I love nine, but its not cheap.
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I tried alot of mail app I came to realize that you get what you pay for it seems all the good ones are charging now.

rootSU said:
I love nine, but its not cheap.
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[email protected] said:
I tried alot of mail app I came to realize that you get what you pay for it seems all the good ones are charging now.
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KB112 said:
Don't know if it will fix your problem, bit MailWise is great. I wish I found it earlier.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.syntomo.email
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I appreciate everyone's help, I will give all of them a try and let you know if any of them work for me.

I tried all of them and still no luck. It either can't connect to the server of gets a "handshake" failure. It's still odd to me that my IMAP account used to work with the new Gmail but then suddenly stopped and hasn't worked with anything since.

You could test aquamail as well.

Here is another to through into the list.
MaildDroid
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid&hl=en
I am not allowed to connect personal devices to our work e-mail and it blocks all of the office 365 type connections. I tried MailDroid just for something to do and it connected instantly with no issues and work doesn't know
There is a Pro version for around $20 and there are in-app purchases available however I have never used either as the free version covers everything I need .

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Here is another to through into the list.
MaildDroid
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid&hl=en
I am not allowed to connect personal devices to our work e-mail and it blocks all of the office 365 type connections. I tried MailDroid just for something to do and it connected instantly with no issues and work doesn't know
There is a Pro version for around $20 and there are in-app purchases available however I have never used either as the free version covers everything I need .
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You could test aquamail as well.
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I will try both of those and see if they work. I have a feeling its the server that my university is using that's the issue. I believe they switched from SSL to TLS after some breath in the SSL protocol. I will try to talk to them as well if I get a chance.