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"Unlocked" Tilt on Rogers -- no voice calls

Hi guys...sorry if this is already answered here, but I just got a supposedly 'unlocked' AT&T Tilt from eBay and put in my Rogers SIM card. It seems to work OK on the data side of things - gleefully accessing the internet and even syncing my email, but I can't get the voice calls to work. Even shows '3G' for the data connection.
Whenever anyone calls me, they get a couple of rings and it goes to my voicemail. If I try to call out, it dials, then immediately ends the call when it tries to connect.
The SIM card is OK I know, since it works in my Eten X500 just fine.
Do I have to do something to the phone to completely remove the AT&T stuff?
Help...I love the phone, but if it won't make voice calls....
Thanks.
/drt

I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.

You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.

asfoor said:
You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
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Thanks... any particular suggestions? I'm thinking of flashing the unit with QMobile 1.2, but I don't think that comes with a radio ROM...I guess I should pick one up from the Upload area?
Thanks again for the help.
/drt

xconradx said:
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
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I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt

drtolson said:
I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
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rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought

here is a link to the radio thread, where you can download the 1.27.12.17 radio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375

zakhir_n said:
rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
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OK, the radio I currently have is 1.27.12.11. Do I have to HardSPL before I install the new radio? Also, I notice you've SuperCID unlocked as well... do I need to do that also?
Thanks for the link to the radio file.
/drt

Well, I got it to work, but...
The ongoing saga continues....
a) HardSPL'd and Flashed in a new radio 1.27.12.17. No change.
b) Played with the network settings a bit, and could occassionally get the phone to 'downgrade' to an Edge cx, and voila! the phone started working. But AT&T's software doesn't give me the option to 'hold' it there.
c) Talked to Rogers tech support -- pretty helpful really. They asked for the # of my SIM card and said it wasn't a '3G' card (it IS pretty old) and suggested I get a new one from the local guys. Went up, got one for free (since I gave them my old one) and tried it -- No luck, same problem.
d) Flashed QMobile 1.2 ROM -- still getting the at&t screen on initial startup, but everything else seems good and the HTC-ish stuff it's supposed to be.
e) Went to configure the phone band settings. If I leave them on 'Auto', it finds the Rogers 3G network and hooks up, but the same problem arises -- when it finishes dialing and tries to connect, it just ends the calls. And incoming calls go directly to my voicemail. HOWEVER, if I specifically configure it for GSM network and the 1900+850 bands, then it locks onto Edge and the phone works fine.
I guess it's back to tech support with Rogers to see what they have to say about my account, etc.
Very Weird.
/drt

similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..

Comatose said:
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
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Yup...from that thread, the description sounds EXACTLY like the difficulties I'm experiencing. It appears to be a hardware failure... Unfortunately, I bought from a guy on eBay, so I'm not sure I can send it in for repair. It works on Edge though, and that will be good enough for now.
Thanks everyone for the help.
/drt

Phone continously disconnects and loses signal if 3g is on

Hey guys, I have this prepaid ATT pay as you go simcard with the medianet unlimited on and the phone goes into a continuous disconnect and reconnect with the 3g signal if I have 3g enabled in the connection manager. If I turn off 3G then it works just fine and sticks with an EDGE connection. Is there something that I am doing wrong? I checked the connection settings with another friend who uses 3g from att as well and settings are the same. I have also resetted the phone multiple times too.
Oh and the phone I have is the ATT Tilt running Hyperdragon's most recent rom.

I'd try swapping SIM with your friend and see if it works for both of you that way. If the Kaiser still can't connect to 3G, you might want to try another ROM, if to no avail you might have the broken 3G radio problem.

kilrah said:
I'd try swapping SIM with your friend and see if it works for both of you that way. If the Kaiser still can't connect to 3G, you might want to try another ROM, if to no avail you might have the broken 3G radio problem.
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I had the same problem. Got a brand new 3G sim card from mobile operator. No help. So sent it to warranty again.

There is a broken 3g radio problem?

johnny13oi said:
There is a broken 3g radio problem?
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Yes, a lot of people including me had to send their Kaiser for a mainboard exchange for that same problem.
Here's the old thread about it I found when I had the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074

Yes, it's a hardware problem. Seems to be fairly common. My TytnII had the same problem.
I had to send it off for repair last Monday. They sent me a replacement phone on Wednesday.

Oh great, I bought this phone a while back from someone else and was using it with Tmobile and am trying it out with ATT prepaid. So I guess I am not covered and am stuck with a phone with a broken 3g radio?

First try the steps described above, sometimes configuration/ROM trouble can make it look similar.

I tried calling support and talking with them and nothing really worked. They said I would have to do warranty exchange through HTC. They said that all they would need is a credit card number and they send the new one first and I have to send back the broken one and I won't be charged if there is no water damage or too many drops right? Do they send you a completely new device? I have kept this phone inside a microfiber pouch its whole life and there are literally no scratches anywhere and a screen protector on it since day 1. It seems to work fine when on the EDGE network, so should I send it back? I don't want to get charged for anything.

I have the same problem... it started with the stock ROM, I have tried four different ROMs, five different radios, even tried reverting to the 6>0 ROM thiking it was a 6.1 glitch, and nothing worked. I get EDGE just fine, but if I switch to 3G, I get a signal for maybe 30 seconds and then lose it.
Lucky for me, my warranty expired. However, AT&T is supposedly releasing the Diamond soon, I thnk I'll plod along until then.

drunkbastard said:
I have the same problem... it started with the stock ROM, I have tried four different ROMs, five different radios, even tried reverting to the 6>0 ROM thiking it was a 6.1 glitch, and nothing worked. I get EDGE just fine, but if I switch to 3G, I get a signal for maybe 30 seconds and then lose it.
Lucky for me, my warranty expired. However, AT&T is supposedly releasing the Diamond soon, I thnk I'll plod along until then.
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Man I wish I had the money to switch devices like that. Being a college student means no money.

Connection Problems

Before i decided to flash a new rom i had been having issues with my phone getting, and staying connected. At first to just data connections, ie 3G. So i decided to try a cooked rom for the first time.
But since then i've had even more troubles getting my phone connected and keeping it connected. Ive been through Hyperdragon III Opal, Dutys latest rom, and now im on the latest AT&T rom, and still im having troubles. Ive hand entered in the Media net connection info so many times ive got it memorized, ive even tried cabs, turning proxy on or off, and just plaing letting it sit for a while. It seems as though every time i try something new it might for a second but next thing i know i lose connection and can't get it again without restarting my phone.
If it helps im currently using HardSPL 3.56, and my phone is running the AT&T ROM version 3.57.502.2 WWE and radio 1.65.21.18
This is a very urgent issue for me as in my job i use my phones internet almost daily.

Ok for a while there with the stock AT&T rom it was working just fine. I went to start adding in a few cabs and it was like my phone once again decided to hate me.
Im not trying shogunmarks DeathV4.1 and have NotATreoFans AT&T v3.2.5 Loaded downloading in case the other doesn't work. I don't even really care about having a really awesome cooked rom, working is about all i am after right now.
UPDATE: Tried both of those ROMs to no effect. ive now broke down and rolled back to the original ROM and SPL that came on my phone when i bought it from the store. I pray this at least gets it working long enough for the Touch Pro to come out and me to get enough money to buy one out of contract. Still if anyone has any ideas im all ears.

Ok i hate adding a new reply or bumping this but now things are getting desperate. I have been through checked and changed every setting, tried everything. now its not just data, the phone itself wont work as a phone. Calls wont go out or come in. If someone trys calling my phone it never goes through, it wont even go to voice mail. This makes no sense at all.

All that comes to mind at this point is a defective phone. If you bought the phone new, then it has a 1 year warranty on it, and AT&T will replace it for you. If it's been less than 30 days, then just box it up and go to an AT&T store for a full exchange.

EvansLight said:
Ok i hate adding a new reply or bumping this but now things are getting desperate. I have been through checked and changed every setting, tried everything. now its not just data, the phone itself wont work as a phone. Calls wont go out or come in. If someone trys calling my phone it never goes through, it wont even go to voice mail. This makes no sense at all.
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Set the phone band to GSM manually and see if you can make phone calls. If that works then search for 3G problems. There are a lot of bad devices which suffer 3G not working.

Connection Settings
How did you set-up your data connection? Manually or automatic config?

NotATreoFan said:
All that comes to mind at this point is a defective phone. If you bought the phone new, then it has a 1 year warranty on it, and AT&T will replace it for you. If it's been less than 30 days, then just box it up and go to an AT&T store for a full exchange.
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See this is what i was hoping for, it still being under warranty. I guess ill be calling AT&T today about it. Thank god i got 2 old phones standing by for times like this.
sys50000 said:
Set the phone band to GSM manually and see if you can make phone calls. If that works then search for 3G problems. There are a lot of bad devices which suffer 3G not working.
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Yea i downloaded BandSwitch last night on a hunch it was just 3G, and low and behold my phone works fine on EDGE. I can make calls, and get the data connection working.
balsack said:
How did you set-up your data connection? Manually or automatic config?
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I have tried doing it all by hand, cabs, and even the auto connection wizard. As i discovered last night it wasn't my settings but 3G just not working at all.
Thanks everyone
UPDATE: I called support after rolling my phone back to its original shipped ROM and SPL, and man did the guy at the call center almost crap when he heard how early of a ROM i was using. He said i have to install the newest update first then if its still borken (considering ive had the newest one on here before, i already know the answer to that) that they will send me a new one since im still in my warranty period Yea for customer support

Need help! Compact IV WebNWalk not working.

My mums got a new compact 4 and ive been setting it up for her. But for some reason i simply cant get webnwalk working.
Ive tried using tmobiles configuration website downloader. Ive tried manualy making a new connection. Ive even tried a hard reset
And it still wont connect to the internet.
I get the H and the G icons but it just never seems to connect.
I get the:
The answering modem has disconnected
error message.
Ive even been on the phone to tmobile tech department and they dont know whats happening...
Has anyone got any clues how to fix this?
Its pretty make or break if this doesnt work we have to send this back.
Nutsy

I'm not sure if the t-mob branded diamond has the connection setup app, but check here:
Start->Settings->Connections->Connection Setup
If its there, run it and it will automatically configure the necessary settings for web n walk.
If it's not there, there is a cab file for it in these forums somewhere (I did a quick search and couldn't find it, but I know it exists)

No the apps not there...
As i mentioned before I used the webtool on tmobiles website that downloads WnW settings to the phone...
Oh to add. It does some times work on GPRS...
But most of the time it gives the error.
H so far never seems to work.

That does seem odd - GPRS and 3G/HSDPA use the same connection settings so if one works, the other should be fine as well.
Have you got any other phones to test that it's not a t-mobile fault?

No Pda phones that use data...

Btw radio version is .03
Is this a known bug?
It seems to work connecting to the gprs first time per reset... When it finds a H network thats when it screws up and wont connect to anything after that point.

Thanks for your reply in my thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435593&page=2). Its cold comfort to know someone else is in the same boat as me.
Have you tried the SIM in another HSDPA mobile? My SIM doesn't get 3G/HSDPA access in ANY phone I put it in. If your SIM works in another phone then you kno it's the phone not the network, but if it doesn't, it MUST be T-mob. BTW - are you in London somewhere? And are you (your mum) on a Combi package? Just curious if it's an area/package thing.
LLOYDY

yeah in london... and we have the package thats 1000 minutes or 2000 texts, cant remember if thats combi or flex sorry
i was going to go down to the shop today to say there might be a fault with the phone

NutsyUK said:
yeah in london... and we have the package thats 1000 minutes or 2000 texts, cant remember if thats combi or flex sorry
i was going to go down to the shop today to say there might be a fault with the phone
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Why dont you just phone t-mobile support?

You seem to think i havent.
I was on the phone with them for over an hour yesterday.

Been to the Tmobile shop, and it appears its the simcard thats faulty.
Ive put there flex sim into my phone and then it would connect.... Put my sim into there phone and there phone wont connect.
And its HSDPA thats where the faults happening... Not GPRS
In the process of trying to get Tmobile to send a replacment sim

Anyway been to the Tmobile shop today... And worked out my sim is faulty...
Tryed the shops sim in my phone and it worked... tryed my sim in there phones and they couldnt connect...
The shop had no blank sims so i had to order one from customer service for free should get it in the next couple of days.
Ill keep you updated

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You seem to think i havent.
I was on the phone with them for over an hour yesterday.
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No, I assumed you hadnt as you didnt mention it.
Sounds like youve sorted it anyhow.

T-Mobile Setup on HTC Tilt

I called up ATT and got the unlock code for my friends old HTC Tilt, unlocked and placed my T-Mobile SIM card in it which has an active voice + text + web account on it, with the default ATT Rom on it I was only able to set it up to do voice and text, whenever I tried using the Data connection for like let's say IE it would bring up a page for web2go, even after Flashing the phone with different ROMs I found on this great site and went through the auto communication setup for t-mobile, and still it only does voice + text, any ideas?
Right now here are my specs:
HTC Tilt
R: 1.70.19.09
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.TPCElite
HardSPL 3.29
Let me know if you need any more info..

Call T-Mobile Support
Same thing happened to me last night. I called them this morning and they fixed it in about 10 minutes.

ok cool, so I should just call them up and they should be able to tell me what to do? or do you know how?
thanks in advance,
-b3ck

There should be a cab file somewhere that sets it all up for you.

I called up T-Mobile and talked with one of their non-supported device technicians (they have an entire support dept. of these guys) and it was actually on their end, they had to allow the IMEI to use the Data plan, because basically the phone was like Hi let me use the Data on the Network and the network was like what's your name? and the phone was like I'm John Smith, and the network was like your not on the list sorry.
So.. yea I was talking with a very smart tech support lady @ T-Mobile, she even mentioned these forums, she said she recommends it to people that have devices that aren't supported by t-mobile she even wanted to know which ROM I flashed onto my Tilt =)
Anyways everything is good to go now, thanks everyone!
-b3ck

Did you have to slip here a fiver?

ChumleyEX said:
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
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huh? I don't know what that means..

I have an issue. I just switched my entire plan over to the even more plus. On my old plan I had tzones and it works great for everything. Now I have the web2go. The problem is not getting the device to work on the internet2.voicestream.com, that works fine, but it is the battery drain. In a 4 hour period it will kill a full battery. When I remove the internet2 setting then the battery lasts all day. anyone else see this issue. BTW I'm using the JJblaster 23518 and radio 1.70.18.02
what do you all think, a bit odd for it to drain the battery that fast?

b3ck said:
huh? I don't know what that means..
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Doh it should have read, "did you slip HER a fiver" in other words, did you tip her?