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Looks like the new and revolutionized touchflo is here and from the looks of it, it looks super nice but costs money. Here's the link: http://www.ftouchsl.com/Default.aspx
If you've tried it out, please give us feedback.
The homepage gif doesnt really hilight the power of this tool.
Looking at the videos/infos is way more complete...
I'll give a try ony my Kaiser (the easy scrolling a-la iPhone is interesting)
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
can our handicapped device handle this?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
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No you don't. Thank-you for raising these rather interesting points. I'd love to have this, but I wouldn't want it messing with my TouchFlo cube...I like the cube, its something cool to show people so they can "Ooooooo....AAaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...."
The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
Testing
I installed the demo.
Call me Placebo Pete, but I'll be damned if overall scrolling isn't smoother. PIE scrolls MUCH smoother, scrolling the file system is still a bit doggy, but smoother overall. I have Touch Commander as my "cube" launcher and its much quicker to draw.
Overall, there really may be somthing to look at here. YMMV. I'd be interested in what others think.
I also run PointUI, which also seems to have benefitted. PointUI has always been smooth because its still a bit bare bones, but now I'd say its downright spritely!
Does this product interfere at all the TouchFlow Cube? I have Slither's version. Should Cube be de-installed to run this program or are they fully compatible?
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Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
If anyone tries the new FTouchSL app on your Kaiser/Tilt, please post your results here. I tried it (in demo mode) earlier today on my Tilt and experienced many a touch screen freeze. The settings area includes an option to disable TouchFlo, which I did...and when I'd test the new scrolling in PIE or Contacts, it would scroll (beautifully, I might add! Much smoother better than TouchFlo IMO) but would then freeze after just a few swipes. I'm curious if I'm in the Kaiser/Tilt minority when experiencing these bugs. Thanks!
I have not seen any freezes or lockups yet.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
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Given I just broke my phone (cracked the screen) and had to re-install I don't want to mess with it quite yet.
My main point was that for some people, even if they use this software it wont improve matters because of the driver issues. This might lead them to blame the software (PocketCM worked well on my Hermes, not so well on my Kaiser) when in reality the software is fine, it's the drivers that have problems.
Some of the posts here are encouraging, but I can't quite understand how the software would improve Nick's touch commander and pointui exprience.
If I develop some courage and find time I will try and install it with some before and after shots. I can't be a Negetive Nancy forever....
Does this software interfere with the Cube? Can they co-exist?
So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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Is that the demo or bought version you tried?
Demo of course, I won't buy something that didnt convince me
Problems here too
Hi
It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
I have installed the demo, and I must say, there is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the scrolling versus using the default HTC ftouchflo. Also I was able to complete the tutorial with no hitches. I had the cube installed at first, and I couldn't sense any conflicts between the two. This app will conflict with the scrolling feature of the HTC Ftouchflo (obviously), but after you do the tutorial and it brings you to the setup page it gives you the option to disable the default touchflo scrolling. I have yet to determine which gestures I would like to use, so I haven't configured those yet. Overall I'd say this program is a lot better than the one HTC supplies. I would gladly pay 10 or 12 bucks for it. I wonder how much it costs. hmm let's see.....
20 Duckets!!
I guess I'm gonna hafta play with it some more to see if i really want to lay down 20 bucks for it.
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Hi
It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
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Philteale and Sebbes, sounds like we're having identical screen freezing problems. I think the scrolling - when it works - is a lot smoother than TouchFlo...unfortunately, it keeps freezing.
Just curious what people think about this app? Currently I am using Slueth v3.0 and love it but am looking for a little more customizability.
nothing exciting for me
I think it is great I have stopped using Pocketplus and InesoftAddressBook. I am very happy with it, took me a couple days to really get used to it.
-McMex
Me too
I think it's the best ready to use application. Install and enjoy
But on the now page, bluetooth and wifi state are missing
its ok not to wild about it
I tried it for 2 days and really like the fuctionality of it. BUT I had to remove it because it slows down the switch to phone enough that I have missed over half of my calls. It will ring only for about 5 seconds even though the caller can hear it ring for about 25 seconds. So even if I am fast in getting to phone it has already gone to voice mail. I removed it and now everything is back to normal.
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I tried it for 2 days and really like the fuctionality of it. BUT I had to remove it because it slows down the switch to phone enough that I have missed over half of my calls. It will ring only for about 5 seconds even though the caller can hear it ring for about 25 seconds. So even if I am fast in getting to phone it has already gone to voice mail. I removed it and now everything is back to normal.
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I think u need to check your phone... I've had 2.0 since the beta leaked and no problems whatsoever! Runs smooth, doesn't slow down my device at all, everythings perfect.
To be honest the programs more for an "oooh" factor then functionality, it'll always be easer to pull out the stylus and do it the good old fashioned way. BUT it does help a BUNCH when driving...
To the original poster, theres a 14 day trial from SPB, why dont u try it, see what u think. U don't like it? then simply uninstall it.. no harm done.
i like the interface but one thing i feel that the smart gesture doesn't work on my tilt somtimes, i need to try very hard to call out the interface (something similar to alt-tab in pc)
overall, i am happy with the functions
The gesture works best if you start at the 'start' icon at the top and drag your finger to the middle of the screen.
I think it's a great program, I keep finding things I like. It works better than HTC's touchflo in my opinion.
Cheers
Its a bit of a step down in some cases, You cant have as many tabs as pocket plus, and you cant add more than one plugin. In fact I found that if you install SPB Mobile Shell and remove it from your home screen, that pocket plus allows you to add many of the unique Mobile Shell tabs but with more customisation such as adding additional content to the tab.
I quite like the quick screen you get while switching on from standby but it doesn't always work and seems to argue with the homescreen about who opens up, also it would have been great if you could literally have this screen as a homescreen. Rather than having a hybrid of the two.
Im dissapointed, I think there are much better innovations being made to homescreen customisation that this, and it looks very little different from SPB MS 1.0.
a bit bum then really.
See the long running thread in the general section.
Redundant thread, killed...
First impression, EXTREMELY bad fingerprint magnet. I was expecting it to be like D810's fingerprint problem, but its much muh worse. However, the back cover seems to be a different kinda plastic glossy coating than D810, so i expect no peeling problems here.
Start up screen, after it install all necessary sys cabs, there's actually a short demo (video) on how to use the Touch interface. The old Touch didnt have that, justin writing in a manual..
The glass screen feels....like got some static attraction, so its totally not fun to scroll around with the finger. Well see how it is after putting on the screen protector
EDITED: Added Screenprotector, Touch feel is now MUCH better. Screenprotector is also of high quality. (thick and solid)
UPDATE on ICONS: Some games i insalled like Hexic and Warcraft 2, the icons in the start menu is totally screwed up, like, can see the shape of the icon, but not wat the icon is. It looks black and has strange lines. But not all games like this. Only some. I'm trying to figure out why. They're all meant for VGA. Hmm
Running the game once and performing a soft reset solves this problem.
UPDATE on TOUCH FLO 3D LAG: I've tried to mess around with Touch FLo 3D, see how much stress it can take. Handling it normally, placing my thumb at the bottom and moving it left to right, selecting what it want, and returning to the home screen, no problem at all. Now as you know besides sliding your thumb around, u can just CLICK it and what you want will appear. Example you're at TODAY screen, i click messages instead of susah go slide from TODAY to MESSAGES. Slight lag occurs when i do this (a tenth of a second? Probably loading time not really a "lag"). Now i tried ABUSING the system = Click on on messages, before messages load, i click Today, click Music, click Programs, click Internet, Click click click click. Basically i'm not letting ANYTHING load, just spamming clicks. A definite lag before what i last clicked finally appears on my screen (about 1- 1.5 seconds). Which is impressive, considering how i abused it like crazy. LOL. I honestly expected it to hang.
UPDATE ON MAPKING 2007: I have just tested it, and Mapking users will be glad to know that it supports the VGA screen on HTC Diamond, and GPS works flawlessly, despite worries that eGPS since its new, may not be recognized by Mapking
UPDATE ON CALL OF DUTY: Works absolutely awesome, NOT using minimal settings, i was able to play pretty well. NOTE: Tytn2 and Touch Cruise was NOT able to play due to heavy lag even with minimal settings. Game was perfectly fine, with except with just a small little, not lag, but looks like the rendering was a bit slow as i looked around, when i used hardkeys and stylus at the same time. NOTE: ALL pdas lag in gaming when using hardkeys and joystick at the same time. However, it was minimal, and call of duty was enjoyable to say the least. SO yes, it DOES have graphic accelerators. Proper benchmarks will be done when i have proper time.
UPDATE. SPB benchmark seems to hang. cant run it. hangs at testing word document.
UPDATE on Touch Flo 3D part 2: Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment...42&d=1202399126, thanks to schap, and customize File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. This gives drastic improvements in Touch Flo 3D.
UPDATE ON BATTERY REVIEW : I did this test, based on what a student (like me) would probably use. More sms than calls. Here's a rough estimate.
TOTAL HOURS BEFORE KONKING OUT TOTALLY = approximately 9 hours, give or take
TOTAL SMS-ES = 120
TOTAL TALK TIME = approximately 15-20 mins
TOTAL LIGHT GAMING TIME (Hexic) = 45 mins.
Its actually pretty impressive.
My verdict is that with backlight on "auto adjust" and with the dimlight dimming within seconds after not being used, there is a HUGE amount of power saving from running the VGA screen. Also, it could be possible that with its graphic accelerators, gaming also consumed less power than usual.
My Touch Cruise same amount of usage above lasted 11-12 hours
IMPORTANT UPDATE (regarding black icons): It appears that the cause of our ugly black icons is not our VGA screen, but Touch Flo 3D itself. Looks like its a bit buggy. So we'll have to wait for a proper rom update regarding it (or perhaps someone can come up with a registry fix). Don't believe me? switch off your Touch Flo 3D, and soft reset your PDA. All icons should turn back to normal. Also, with Touch Flo 3D off, you can expect better battery life, as well as a significant increase in speed for your pda.
UPDATE HTC Touch FLO 3D, another bug: There appears to be memory leak issues with Touch Flo 3D. The longer u use the less ram u'll appear to have. Will have to wait for rom update to fix all these bugs
My Blog : http://heretical-rantings.blogspot.com/2008/06/htc-touch-diamond-user-review.html
IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.
UPDATE ON ROM 1.37.707.1
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: APPEARS SOLVED (doesnt go above 57% here, last time 70+%)
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
gimme 24 hours to test bluetooth stack/ sudden mute problem and memory leak issues
kudos on one of the few informative posts i have read on this new forum for touch diamond...
Nice summary.
Few questions.
1. COD - Can you please post your control settings here?
2. Do you know the actual registry change for changing the file system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. I like to do this via registry. I couldnt find this info...
Thanks.
K
Nice summary Baronic, at least when i get my Diamond ill know what to look out for. Saying that, it could be that the UK spec Diamonds have been delayed because of these problems??. LAst i heard was that they were being held back because HTC wanted to apply a software update or something like that before they were released into the UK. Unless they are trying to stop us from hacking the phone ie cooked roms etc. I hope not or else i will be extremely angry as to why they would do such a thing.
@boinger, you're welcome
@Kraft, in COD there's a box to tick "low settings". I'm playing it with it unticked thats all. No other settings.
For reg edits, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
I'll be updating my Blog, as well as here probably once i flash the new rom. I'll have to come up with a summary on the roms as well soon, which roms have the Touch Flo 3D problems. My blog is in my signature
Baronic;2307799
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I was asking about control settings... What keys do u use... I find it hard to play without the keyboard ...
Also I am aware about the tweeking thread.
1. Boost TFL3D Performance --> Using Advanced Config, change File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072
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I asked if you know the actual reg. change ...
K
I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out
I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out
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@boinger, you're welcome
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
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You already have a ROM update, did you find that on the HTC website in the HTC e-club? I just checked out the Hong KONG HTC region site and it has no ROM updates.
A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?
@save ferris, no, HTC doesnt seem to have the rom update, i'm going directly to the distributer for the rom update. though owners who bought their Touch DIamond today/yesterday would already have that update.
@pedmomd, no it doesnt blur the screen at all. its a clear screen protector
IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
Baronic said:
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
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agree on the mute phone after using the bluetooth
pedmond said:
A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?
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No. Its quite ok actualy...
But makes the Touchflow3D unusable for me... So I removed it....
K
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maybe i did not understand the problem....but:
1. i put some music to play with my coreplayer and bt headphones.
2. after a few minutes i asked my little girl to call me from my home phone. the music stopped, i pushed the headphones button and was able to have a conversation.
3. hanged-up the call and the music start playing again.
4. repeated twice. everything OK!
is this the right experiment for your problem???
kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem
Can we have a dump of that latest rom plz ?
Baronic said:
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
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kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem
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aaaahaaa...i thought you are blaiming the a2dp....OK, i'll test the htc player.
great post dude..
one more bug is
when using audio booster, after a while/charging or phone call, music played would be bassless.
Ways to fix it is to plug the headset in, disable audio booster, unplug and replug in the headset.
In opera browser the screen rotates very rarely or at all , I mean is not very responsive ( the G sensor ) ... but in Pictures instantly when I rotate the phone so is the picture... what do you guys think?
i got the same problem...
any1 got a clue what could be/ how to solve this?
another one reports here,
same problem, works great in Pictures, but in opera it is as slow as hell....
Had similar problem today, which led me to recalibration of Gsensor. After that i ran the Opera browser, and screen rotated much faster than before. Hope it helps...
Edit: noticed that screen rotation response is also better and faster in Photos/Album too...
done that still no joy
At the beginning I wait until the page is loaded and then rotate. It is not so responsive in the middle of the page loading process...i can live with that...
Did you guyzz try the latest Opera version?
everytime i rotate the phone... opera rotates and the phone goes back to home screen... i have to go back into opera via task manager, and its back on portrait again...
I'm having this problem too, and it's bugging the hell out of me. I've calibrated the g-sensor, but it's still not working very well. I have Opera 1938 and SwiftBL V6.0 ROM. I don't use GSEN.
To make rotation work somewhat, I have to "snap" the Diamond from straight portrait to straight landscape. I can't have it slightly tilted away from me, like I would if I had it in my lap or on a table. However, with the Diamonds image browser it works fine, which makes me think that the problem lies within Opera.
I've tried using the tweak setting long-press home button to manually rotate screen, but this kicks me out of Opera and into TF3D. In SMS it works fine, though.
Teeter works great though, and that again makes me think that it's mostly a bad integration/calibration of the g-sensor in Opera that's the problem, eg. not very calibrated tresholds for rotation.
So we have to wait for a proper version of Opera.
the rendering of a webpage is very cpu intensive action, everything has to be recomputed for small display. if you change resolution (ie. rotate diamond) in the middle of the loading the page, it's bit too much for little diamond. just wait till the loading of the page finishes, and then rotating works ok. it can't be much better...
This is happening to me too (Telus version) but it only recently started happening. As soon as I rotate the screen - whether the page is fully loaded or not - it brings me to the Phone screen. I've accidently called people a couple times due to this so it's a bit frustrating.
I'm going to try hard resetting my phone and then slowly install applications and tweaks to see if I can figure out what's causing it.
I have this issue as well...I think Opera ios just trying to do too much....loading a page and rotn at the same time. After a while it seems to work better....I still think they have a long way to go to make this programe bug free and reliable
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This is happening to me too (Telus version) but it only recently started happening. As soon as I rotate the screen - whether the page is fully loaded or not - it brings me to the Phone screen. I've accidently called people a couple times due to this so it's a bit frustrating.
I'm going to try hard resetting my phone and then slowly install applications and tweaks to see if I can figure out what's causing it.
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Same thing happens to me, on the same ROM.
Did you get any result doing this? I have the Telus ROM too and this is very annoying.
I have tried using GSen with the rom before, but uninstalled it. No change.
The only thing I suspect may interfere could be that I mapped a Long Key Press for screen rotation in apps like Inbox. I will try unmapping and post the results here.
I don't know how TouchFlo is integrated to the OS, but I wonder if manually changing the orientation of the screen somehow affects other components that could become "out of sync" with the current orientation... Could it be related to the version of one component? Looks like GSen does not work properly with Telus ROMS.
at least your opera get to go lanscape. When mine try to do landscape, it somehow open up the phone dialer and i get kicked out of Opera. Anyone know what this happens? Keeping it in portrait mode is fine, but the second i rotate it, it halts the program and open up phone dialer for no apparent reason!!
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at least your opera get to go lanscape. When mine try to do landscape, it somehow open up the phone dialer and i get kicked out of Opera. Anyone know what this happens? Keeping it in portrait mode is fine, but the second i rotate it, it halts the program and open up phone dialer for no apparent reason!!
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lude I was havving that problem too. I made a reg edit that helped with the phone dialer popping up on the touch and it seems to have helped me
i think it s HKLM>SOFTWARE>MICROSOFT>SHELL
I then set ShowTitleBarClock to 2
hope that helps
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lude I was havving that problem too. I made a reg edit that helped with the phone dialer popping up on the touch and it seems to have helped me
i think it s HKLM>SOFTWARE>MICROSOFT>SHELL
I then set ShowTitleBarClock to 2
hope that helps
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It works!.....but then it covers up my battery meter
I'm not sure what would show the battery icon....I use ariel battery metter
...same problem here...
(Telus)
Same as mine.
Rotation speed in Opera seems not real working when the phone rotated for vertical / horizontal orientation. I am wondering memory size whether it can support changes in high resolution display.
See whether it has upgrade version to speed up the function.
Hi there!
Today I had a little fun with my Diamond using the camera to produce some kind of false color realtime background picture (or better background video?) in fullscreen (full 480x640 !).
This is what it looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tiEji2sTyA
Well, it's a little bit battery consuming and somehow disturbing to look at, so it's not really usable, but it's a funny thing, isn't it?
cheers
Well... It's incredible!! Are you sure it isn't a fake!!???
How do you managed it ? How do you configure manile to be trasparent with camera underneath?
So curious!!
How did you do that ?????
How can your top & bottom bar be transparant ???
It's really fun !!!... I want to be able to do that too ^_^.
Wooow.
Please share your knowledge with us!
Greetings to all.
Yup share plz.How you did that nice trick?
SUPER
Expleine how pls !
Little useful and limited battery time
i want to know how you got the top and bottom bars transparent.
can this be made into a program that you can just run on demand rather than just being on at all times? so we can run it to play around with it then turn it off when your done?
Its a fake. He dont want or he cant tell us how it works.
He just want that we beg to him " Oooo please show us how it works, youre the best etc."
I think he just need attention and nothing more.
Poor guy.
FAKE
look at 16-18sec. when he moves the D closer but the image of the computermag onscreen does not get any smaller
also the angle is not right given the fact that the d camera records 90 dregrees to the screen
I dont unterstand why people doing this. He has no friends or why?
Great!!! You're the best. Pleeeeeeease... show us how it works!!!
You know it's actually logically quite simple to make such a program using video overlay as was used on older Windows operating systems before the DWM came to light.
What the deveolper has probably done is made a theme for the diamond that has alot of a single colour, most likely magenta, as this is not used often in WM6.1 (to my knowledge). All one has to do then, is render video onto any area of the screen which is pink. Using this technique, you could most likely render pre-recorded video onto the screen. If a program is created to sit ontop of all other windows, and remain ontop, and simply pass through stylus entry underneath it, then this is actually a relatively simple things to do...
This method explains how the bars appear transparent, but other visual elements do not. It also explaint why you can see aliasing around fonts and visual elements, as well as no transparensy on the Manila slidey bar thingy.
Or he used the colour as a traditional green screen, and added the video on his computer later.
Surur
teh **** ;-)
And Why does that Diamond look different to mine (it seems to have rounded corners...
sickboy555 said:
teh **** ;-)
And Why does that Diamond look different to mine (it seems to have rounded corners...
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because its a CDMA diamond, its the step up from your GSM models.
Juggalo_X said:
because its a CDMA diamond, its the step up from your GSM models.
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not really ... thats a regular 3g / gsm device from t mobile germany ..
Kleiner Hirnloser Spacko, na geht Dir jetzt einer ab weil alle gebettelt haben?
Nunja T-Mobile User, was soll man dazu noch sagen....
It appears the video is real time.
As for the part at 16-18 seconds, well that effect is caused by just moving the camcorder closer to the phone and at a slightly different angle. It can be seen happening throughout the video.
No one in their right mind would choreograph the exact steps and angles to match the video this exactly. It would take many hours I assure you. Therefore the video must be real time.
However, the elements displayed in the foreground could be faked. Lucky me, I have a 61" monitor/hdtv that I can see some elements rather clearly. One of those elements is the time displayed on the phone.
At 20s into the video the clock turns
14:02
at 1m17s its
14:03
Do the math. Where did the 3 seconds go?
Perhaps he just edited out 3 seconds where it displayed his name or something similar. The world may never know..
If it's all indeed a fake, then why would someone do this? Advertising the newspaper on the table maybe? Or just for kicks... If it's just for kicks then likely it would be someone here, and likely someone drawing attention to it at roughly around the same time this thread was started.
My theory is that it's real, it's from someone here, and they want to get people talking about it. Eventually, someone will say, "Hey I figured it out"...and that will be them.