First impression, EXTREMELY bad fingerprint magnet. I was expecting it to be like D810's fingerprint problem, but its much muh worse. However, the back cover seems to be a different kinda plastic glossy coating than D810, so i expect no peeling problems here.
Start up screen, after it install all necessary sys cabs, there's actually a short demo (video) on how to use the Touch interface. The old Touch didnt have that, justin writing in a manual..
The glass screen feels....like got some static attraction, so its totally not fun to scroll around with the finger. Well see how it is after putting on the screen protector
EDITED: Added Screenprotector, Touch feel is now MUCH better. Screenprotector is also of high quality. (thick and solid)
UPDATE on ICONS: Some games i insalled like Hexic and Warcraft 2, the icons in the start menu is totally screwed up, like, can see the shape of the icon, but not wat the icon is. It looks black and has strange lines. But not all games like this. Only some. I'm trying to figure out why. They're all meant for VGA. Hmm
Running the game once and performing a soft reset solves this problem.
UPDATE on TOUCH FLO 3D LAG: I've tried to mess around with Touch FLo 3D, see how much stress it can take. Handling it normally, placing my thumb at the bottom and moving it left to right, selecting what it want, and returning to the home screen, no problem at all. Now as you know besides sliding your thumb around, u can just CLICK it and what you want will appear. Example you're at TODAY screen, i click messages instead of susah go slide from TODAY to MESSAGES. Slight lag occurs when i do this (a tenth of a second? Probably loading time not really a "lag"). Now i tried ABUSING the system = Click on on messages, before messages load, i click Today, click Music, click Programs, click Internet, Click click click click. Basically i'm not letting ANYTHING load, just spamming clicks. A definite lag before what i last clicked finally appears on my screen (about 1- 1.5 seconds). Which is impressive, considering how i abused it like crazy. LOL. I honestly expected it to hang.
UPDATE ON MAPKING 2007: I have just tested it, and Mapking users will be glad to know that it supports the VGA screen on HTC Diamond, and GPS works flawlessly, despite worries that eGPS since its new, may not be recognized by Mapking
UPDATE ON CALL OF DUTY: Works absolutely awesome, NOT using minimal settings, i was able to play pretty well. NOTE: Tytn2 and Touch Cruise was NOT able to play due to heavy lag even with minimal settings. Game was perfectly fine, with except with just a small little, not lag, but looks like the rendering was a bit slow as i looked around, when i used hardkeys and stylus at the same time. NOTE: ALL pdas lag in gaming when using hardkeys and joystick at the same time. However, it was minimal, and call of duty was enjoyable to say the least. SO yes, it DOES have graphic accelerators. Proper benchmarks will be done when i have proper time.
UPDATE. SPB benchmark seems to hang. cant run it. hangs at testing word document.
UPDATE on Touch Flo 3D part 2: Download http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment...42&d=1202399126, thanks to schap, and customize File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. This gives drastic improvements in Touch Flo 3D.
UPDATE ON BATTERY REVIEW : I did this test, based on what a student (like me) would probably use. More sms than calls. Here's a rough estimate.
TOTAL HOURS BEFORE KONKING OUT TOTALLY = approximately 9 hours, give or take
TOTAL SMS-ES = 120
TOTAL TALK TIME = approximately 15-20 mins
TOTAL LIGHT GAMING TIME (Hexic) = 45 mins.
Its actually pretty impressive.
My verdict is that with backlight on "auto adjust" and with the dimlight dimming within seconds after not being used, there is a HUGE amount of power saving from running the VGA screen. Also, it could be possible that with its graphic accelerators, gaming also consumed less power than usual.
My Touch Cruise same amount of usage above lasted 11-12 hours
IMPORTANT UPDATE (regarding black icons): It appears that the cause of our ugly black icons is not our VGA screen, but Touch Flo 3D itself. Looks like its a bit buggy. So we'll have to wait for a proper rom update regarding it (or perhaps someone can come up with a registry fix). Don't believe me? switch off your Touch Flo 3D, and soft reset your PDA. All icons should turn back to normal. Also, with Touch Flo 3D off, you can expect better battery life, as well as a significant increase in speed for your pda.
UPDATE HTC Touch FLO 3D, another bug: There appears to be memory leak issues with Touch Flo 3D. The longer u use the less ram u'll appear to have. Will have to wait for rom update to fix all these bugs
My Blog : http://heretical-rantings.blogspot.com/2008/06/htc-touch-diamond-user-review.html
IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.
UPDATE ON ROM 1.37.707.1
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: APPEARS SOLVED (doesnt go above 57% here, last time 70+%)
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
gimme 24 hours to test bluetooth stack/ sudden mute problem and memory leak issues
kudos on one of the few informative posts i have read on this new forum for touch diamond...
Nice summary.
Few questions.
1. COD - Can you please post your control settings here?
2. Do you know the actual registry change for changing the file system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072. I like to do this via registry. I couldnt find this info...
Thanks.
K
Nice summary Baronic, at least when i get my Diamond ill know what to look out for. Saying that, it could be that the UK spec Diamonds have been delayed because of these problems??. LAst i heard was that they were being held back because HTC wanted to apply a software update or something like that before they were released into the UK. Unless they are trying to stop us from hacking the phone ie cooked roms etc. I hope not or else i will be extremely angry as to why they would do such a thing.
@boinger, you're welcome
@Kraft, in COD there's a box to tick "low settings". I'm playing it with it unticked thats all. No other settings.
For reg edits, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
I'll be updating my Blog, as well as here probably once i flash the new rom. I'll have to come up with a summary on the roms as well soon, which roms have the Touch Flo 3D problems. My blog is in my signature
Baronic;2307799
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265[/url]
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I was asking about control settings... What keys do u use... I find it hard to play without the keyboard ...
Also I am aware about the tweeking thread.
1. Boost TFL3D Performance --> Using Advanced Config, change File system cache to 8mb and file system filter cache to 131072
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I asked if you know the actual reg. change ...
K
I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out
I use:
Top left aim, top right stance, btm left swap weapon, btm right reload.
volume down key, "use"
Volume up key, pause, i would change stance button to grenade if i see fit.
actual reg edit? nope, i didnt bother to really explore and find out
Baronic said:
@boinger, you're welcome
@Spawn, I've no idea about UK sets, as i'm from Malaysia. However, here, we've just had a rom update yesterday, and i'll be flashing it tomorrow, and see if the main problem: Black icon and memory leak, has been solved.
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You already have a ROM update, did you find that on the HTC website in the HTC e-club? I just checked out the Hong KONG HTC region site and it has no ROM updates.
A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?
@save ferris, no, HTC doesnt seem to have the rom update, i'm going directly to the distributer for the rom update. though owners who bought their Touch DIamond today/yesterday would already have that update.
@pedmomd, no it doesnt blur the screen at all. its a clear screen protector
IMPORTANT UPDATE (bluetooth stack problem): It appears that after using Bluetooth A2dp, your pda will have "vibration non stop" as well as phone totally mute problems. This is reported by other members in XDA. I'll run a check up on the latest 1.37 rom and see if this is fixed, as well as other issues. Stay tuned.
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
Baronic said:
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
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agree on the mute phone after using the bluetooth
pedmond said:
A question: doesn't the screen protector blur the display and therefore ruin the hi res of the device?
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No. Its quite ok actualy...
But makes the Touchflow3D unusable for me... So I removed it....
K
keevy17 said:
agree on the mute phone after using the bluetooth
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maybe i did not understand the problem....but:
1. i put some music to play with my coreplayer and bt headphones.
2. after a few minutes i asked my little girl to call me from my home phone. the music stopped, i pushed the headphones button and was able to have a conversation.
3. hanged-up the call and the music start playing again.
4. repeated twice. everything OK!
is this the right experiment for your problem???
kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem
Can we have a dump of that latest rom plz ?
Baronic said:
Rom 1.37.707.1
BLACK ICONS PROBLEM: Unresolved <------- WTF MAN HTC!!
Bluetooth stack/mute problem : Pending testing
Memory Leak Issues: Pending testing
random problem where sms tone does not ring, but only rings when u wake up your phone, despite receiving it long before SOLVED. But device is still set not to wake up at incoming sms by default.
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kukiriku, u must use HTC Player only to duplicate the problem
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aaaahaaa...i thought you are blaiming the a2dp....OK, i'll test the htc player.
great post dude..
one more bug is
when using audio booster, after a while/charging or phone call, music played would be bassless.
Ways to fix it is to plug the headset in, disable audio booster, unplug and replug in the headset.
Related
Looks like the new and revolutionized touchflo is here and from the looks of it, it looks super nice but costs money. Here's the link: http://www.ftouchsl.com/Default.aspx
If you've tried it out, please give us feedback.
The homepage gif doesnt really hilight the power of this tool.
Looking at the videos/infos is way more complete...
I'll give a try ony my Kaiser (the easy scrolling a-la iPhone is interesting)
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
can our handicapped device handle this?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
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No you don't. Thank-you for raising these rather interesting points. I'd love to have this, but I wouldn't want it messing with my TouchFlo cube...I like the cube, its something cool to show people so they can "Ooooooo....AAaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...."
The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
Testing
I installed the demo.
Call me Placebo Pete, but I'll be damned if overall scrolling isn't smoother. PIE scrolls MUCH smoother, scrolling the file system is still a bit doggy, but smoother overall. I have Touch Commander as my "cube" launcher and its much quicker to draw.
Overall, there really may be somthing to look at here. YMMV. I'd be interested in what others think.
I also run PointUI, which also seems to have benefitted. PointUI has always been smooth because its still a bit bare bones, but now I'd say its downright spritely!
Does this product interfere at all the TouchFlow Cube? I have Slither's version. Should Cube be de-installed to run this program or are they fully compatible?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
If anyone tries the new FTouchSL app on your Kaiser/Tilt, please post your results here. I tried it (in demo mode) earlier today on my Tilt and experienced many a touch screen freeze. The settings area includes an option to disable TouchFlo, which I did...and when I'd test the new scrolling in PIE or Contacts, it would scroll (beautifully, I might add! Much smoother better than TouchFlo IMO) but would then freeze after just a few swipes. I'm curious if I'm in the Kaiser/Tilt minority when experiencing these bugs. Thanks!
I have not seen any freezes or lockups yet.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
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Given I just broke my phone (cracked the screen) and had to re-install I don't want to mess with it quite yet.
My main point was that for some people, even if they use this software it wont improve matters because of the driver issues. This might lead them to blame the software (PocketCM worked well on my Hermes, not so well on my Kaiser) when in reality the software is fine, it's the drivers that have problems.
Some of the posts here are encouraging, but I can't quite understand how the software would improve Nick's touch commander and pointui exprience.
If I develop some courage and find time I will try and install it with some before and after shots. I can't be a Negetive Nancy forever....
Does this software interfere with the Cube? Can they co-exist?
So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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Is that the demo or bought version you tried?
Demo of course, I won't buy something that didnt convince me
Problems here too
Hi
It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
I have installed the demo, and I must say, there is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the scrolling versus using the default HTC ftouchflo. Also I was able to complete the tutorial with no hitches. I had the cube installed at first, and I couldn't sense any conflicts between the two. This app will conflict with the scrolling feature of the HTC Ftouchflo (obviously), but after you do the tutorial and it brings you to the setup page it gives you the option to disable the default touchflo scrolling. I have yet to determine which gestures I would like to use, so I haven't configured those yet. Overall I'd say this program is a lot better than the one HTC supplies. I would gladly pay 10 or 12 bucks for it. I wonder how much it costs. hmm let's see.....
20 Duckets!!
I guess I'm gonna hafta play with it some more to see if i really want to lay down 20 bucks for it.
philteale said:
Hi
It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
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Philteale and Sebbes, sounds like we're having identical screen freezing problems. I think the scrolling - when it works - is a lot smoother than TouchFlo...unfortunately, it keeps freezing.
Can somebody test it on s730? Share your exprerience! Seems to me that it could bring more free RAM, more battery life, speedy reaction
Many new features, f.e.:
* smartphones support
* new black skin
* battery saving
* bluetooth switching on/off during call (also battery saving)
* speed increasing
http://pointui.com
Works well..sometimes a little bit slowly.
I'd locked my S730 by this tool.
Can anyone tell me how to unlock this?
New Features:
Lock screen can now be used on smartphones - you press up then down on dpad.
Yea, I have been using this SW for some hours and i love it!
Has some minor bugs. I cannot keylock the unit as ususal.
Then the home program shuts down. So I have to use the keylock that is built inn to this SW..
But now that I am used to this, it is actually better that the standard.
It also bugs up some times when using Comm Manager, I have not yet figured out when exactly this problem accures,
but Home then sometimes shuts down, and I have to restart the program..
But other than that its perfect. Fast, smooth fading menues, and looks great!
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Yea, I have been using this SW for some hours and i love it!
Has some minor bugs. I cannot keylock the unit as ususal.
Then the home program shuts down. So I have to use the keylock that is built inn to this SW..
But now that I am used to this, it is actually better that the standard.
But other than that its perfect. Fast, smooth fading menues, and looks great!
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Thanks for your opinion, this SW little bit change the behavior of the HW, but according the programmer´s goal. The previous member contribution is typical, people does not like to read the manuals, sometimes problem is not problem it is a purpose how to use the HW effectively and users are lazy to read the changelogs .
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Thanks for your opinion, this SW little bit change the behavior of the HW, but according the programmer´s goal. The previous member contribution is typical, people does not like to read the manuals, sometimes problem is not problem it is a purpose how to use the HW effectively and users are lazy to read the changelogs .
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I know what you mean
A little "Tip" if anyone wants to try this program on the S730.
I had to change the HTC Home settings "Time Out" to Never. Or else the it would go back to the original HTC Home after
10 minutes. (Depending on the settings)
Looks nice but too limited for my liking just yet.
Like, I want to be able to see the time AND appointments on the home screen, without having to scroll.
It should have more user-definable input, without having to get out a registry editor. It also needs some work to make it suitable for smartphones, like being able to add stuff to the icon bar on the home screen. Also, the application bar only shows icons in the Start Menu/Programs folder by default. I couldn't see any options to change it, or even a button to move back up the directory tree to where my icons actually are.
A working uninstall procedure would be good too!!
I agree with the mad ferret.
the customization is missing. for example where is the option to create a "favorite apps list"?
i really like its fast responsiveness!!! i wish windows mobile could develop something like that as native windows mobile software. so smooth and with such neat design. why cant they? are they ****ing retarded? instead we get slow menues and ugly lists like on phones of 1998. cant windows work with people wh o can create such amazing software and integrate it natively? cant they develop something like this themselfes? WTF
anyway, pointui is a very amazing piece of software. however, whenever i press "running programs" it freezes.... the update function doesnt work.
i prefer smarttoolkit!!
http://smarttoolkit.softonic.de/windowsmobile
Everything that's supposed to work with PointUI, works for me on my HTC S710/Vox. I do hope for more features and I am sure the developers are hard at work, but what it is now - it can only get better since it's amazing. I hope for it to run at system level, apart from that it's superb so far!
I've been using it for about a week now. I love the clean look, but I'm having one major issue. My number keys and my green key do nothing so I can't call any number that is not in my contacts without going back to the WM Home screen.
Anyone else have this problem? Or better yet, know how I can fix it?
But, yeah other than that I really like pointui. Hopefully the next release comes soon.
I've installed a few games, and randomly, a few of these icons on my PDA turns black. As in it retains the shape, but just becomes pure black. SOft reseting solves the problem for a while, but after a period of time it randomly becomes black again.
What i want to know is:
1) does anyone know the cause of this. The stuff i installed are all VGA compatible and i play em with no problem
2) Should i be worried? Do i wait for an update, or should i claim warranty?
I have the same problem, everytime I install an application,
it's icon turns into black, I have format and retry the diamond many time, but still got this problem.
I try to install one program at a time, then soft reset it each time, then the icon restore back...
Don't know what is wrong.
It might be VGA related. I had the same problem and i have a previous version from you. The program works without a problem but the icon was a bit fuzzy in the beginning but after a while they turned out ok
yea but after a while it becomes fuzzy again
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elohssanarerauoy said:
That's the way HTC products work dude! Once you get suckered, you're Fcuked!:[/SIZE]D
They've got no product that works properly out of the box!:[/SIZE]mad:
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That's a strange thing to say, considering the nature of this forum.
If you're not a fan of these devices, than why are you here? Flog them on eBay and get an iPhone
PS. Your large text makes baby jebus cry
lol
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They've got no product that works properly out of the box!
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Most of them work properly. I haven't had to make any changes to my Touch.
The proper UK version of the Touch Diamond will also probably work properly too. However, 'properly' isn't good enough for most people here - we want AWESOME.
Increase the Icon Cache and soft reset:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"limit"=dword:00020000
Note: The dword 00020000 is hexadecimal which is equivalent to dword 131702 decimal.
KOR!
elohssanarerauoy said:
That's the way HTC products work dude! Once you get suckered, you're Fcuked!:D
They've got no product that works properly out of the box!:mad:
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That's just not true! Sure they don't do the max they can do, but what does? And anyway, that's what this site is for
thanks KOR, i'll give it a try!
King of Rapture™ said:
Increase the Icon Cache and soft reset:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"limit"=dword:00020000
Note: The dword 00020000 is hexadecimal which is equivalent to dword 131702 decimal.
KOR!
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hey i changed to 131702 but its 0x20276 not 20000
doesnt fix the problem
bump this major bug for attention
IMPORTANT UPDATE (regarding black icons): It appears that the cause of our ugly black icons is not our VGA screen, but Touch Flo 3D itself. Looks like its a bit buggy. So we'll have to wait for a proper rom update regarding it (or perhaps someone can come up with a registry fix). Don't believe me? switch off your Touch Flo 3D, and soft reset your PDA. All icons should turn back to normal. Also, with Touch Flo 3D off, you can expect better battery life, as well as a significant increase in speed for your pda
Woo...Bugs in TouchFLO 3D. Oh well, at least HTC will be updating it for a while. That should be interesting...
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Woo...Bugs in TouchFLO 3D. Oh well, at least HTC will be updating it for a while. That should be interesting...
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They didn't do that for the Kaiser *cough* Drivers *cough*
Drivers are a more serious problem. UI problems are normally easy to fix. In other threads, people have already begun tweaking to improve TouchFLO 3D's performance...
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Drivers are a more serious problem. UI problems are normally easy to fix. In other threads, people have already begun tweaking to improve TouchFLO 3D's performance...
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In theory, yes, but whether HTC will do anything at all remains to be seen...
I think I might have found a workaround for this issue.
1st... I have increased the Icon Cache.
2nd... I switched off the TouchFlow 3D today plugin
3rd... I did a soft reset
Now the icons are displayed correctly and are cashed correctly.
4th... I switched the TouchFlow 3D today plugin on
The cashed icons remain nice now and will not turn black again, because the are cashed.
To increase the Icon Cache, use a registry editor and change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"limit"=dword:00020000
Note: The dword 00020000 is hexadecimal which is equivalent to dword 131702 decimal.
i got a couple of issues:
- when someone calls, the phone seems to stutter and cutoff the first ring a bit. doesnt inspire confidence at all. the ringtone is the same file i used to have on my wizard and worked perfectly for years, so its not the file.
- the menu font size if ridiculously huge! i managed to make it smaller by changing the following registry keys:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
and that brings the font size down, however the font glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles remain the same huge size. i attached a picture to explain.
how do i change the size of those glyphs?
HKLM\System\GDI\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
I can not find this value!!!!! I found the other 2, but not thus one.
oddball1 said:
HKLM\System\GDI\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
I can not find this value!!!!! I found the other 2, but not thus one.
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it should be:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
sorry about that, i corrected the original post as well.
come on, i can not be the only one whos bothered that an $800 device can not do its most basic job of RINGING PROBABLY!
no one else has that problem with first ring stuttering? the phone seriously seems to have trouble loading the phone app quickly enough when a call comes in, sometimes it even says "unknown caller" first before recognizing the number and showing the contact name.
Yeah, bit sluggish, thanx WM ?
I don't mind very much, I am not looking at phone waiting for it to ring My ringtone works fine btw?
Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it
ATMinotaur said:
Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it
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Doesnt work on my Diamond even after a soft reset...
ATMinotaur said:
Try this tweak for ring delay
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Sc ript - Change apw3r to apr
Descripion:
a = allow
p = play sound
w3 = wait/delay 3 seconds
r = repeat
f = backlight aan (f1)
v = trillfunctie aan (v0,v1,v2)
Credit should go to Oppainter for finding it
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This has been mentioned and tested many times in other threads. It does NOT work.
xwaiz said:
This has been mentioned and tested many times in other threads. It does NOT work.
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Fair enough, didn't see posts saying it doesn't work (or I just didn't read those posts properly), and I hadn't properly tested it either.
I have the same problem with the ringtone. I use my own .wav file. I hope someone comes up with an answer, it is a pain ;(
pulp said:
come on, i can not be the only one whos bothered that an $800 device can not do its most basic job of RINGING PROBABLY!
no one else has that problem with first ring stuttering? the phone seriously seems to have trouble loading the phone app quickly enough when a call comes in, sometimes it even says "unknown caller" first before recognizing the number and showing the contact name.
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Yes i have the same problems as you, more specifically:
1. Sometimes it rings just once and goes into "missed call" before I can pick up, and the caller tells me it rang many times and I didn't answer!
2. Unknown caller before the name is identified
3. HUGE fonts of the email header (From, Subject, etc).... I mean they take up half the freakin' screen. WTF?
1st ring cut off prob
gaz_az said:
I have the same problem with the ringtone. I use my own .wav file. I hope someone comes up with an answer, it is a pain ;(
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If you are having problems that the first ring sounds a bit cut off, try converting the ringtone to MP3. I had the same problem with my ringtone (which was WAV). Then I converted it to MP3. The file now has become alot smaller in size (thus faster to load I think) and now my first ring sounds "whole" so to speak. Try it if you use WAV.
Please note that this problem does NOT solve the ringtone delay (it solves the 1st ring cut-off prob for me at least). The ring delay problem still exists after ringtone convertion to MP3 and as far as I know there hasn't been a solution for that yet.
ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.
pulp said:
ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.
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I'm glad the file conversion worked for you too. That's right, it's not the wav file that is corrupt, I also used mine for years on my old PPC. It's that the Diamond somehow does have difficulties starting up certain "tasks" when someone calls. It could very well be the TFL3D interface... Even with all the performance tweaks, the problems exist...
Maybe you can try to use the phone option of WM instead of TFL3d? I dunno if this works (haven't tested it myself) but maybe if you remove the tick of the TFL3D in the Start -> Settings -> Today (Items tab) and then soft reset, maybe the TFL3D interface won't start. This way you can try if you have the same delay problem with the phone interface of Windows Mobile... This way we know for sure the HTC TFL3D interface causes the problem here.
pulp said:
ok, i have managed to get rid of the ringtune stuttering by converting it from .wav(150kb) to .mp3(30kb)
strange thing is i used the same exact .wav ringtune for a couple of years on my old Wizard and there was zero delay. which doesnt make any sense.
however, it still shows "unknown caller" sometimes before recognizing the contact name.
i am starting to think that the HTC phone skin is the culprit here, its simply making everything slow. i tried disabling it with Advanced Configuration but that renders the whole phone app unusable.
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i can confirm that changing from wav to mp3 remove/resolve the stattering.
no more breaks after first ring...
pulp said:
i got a couple of issues:
- when someone calls, the phone seems to stutter and cutoff the first ring a bit. doesnt inspire confidence at all. the ringtone is the same file i used to have on my wizard and worked perfectly for years, so its not the file.
- the menu font size if ridiculously huge! i managed to make it smaller by changing the following registry keys:
HKLM\System\GDI\SYSFNT\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Barfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\Ht (from 1000 changed to 700)
and that brings the font size down, however the font glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles remain the same huge size. i attached a picture to explain.
how do i change the size of those glyphs?
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Hello,
did anyone fpund a solution to bring ont glyphs like arrows/checkmarks/circles to a smaller size?
Greets, Peter
"HUGE fonts of the email header (From, Subject, etc).... I mean they take up half the freakin' screen. WTF?"
Same here: Any one have an idea how to change this?
SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need
zmob123 said:
SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need
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My problem with the menu symbols else?
Peter
zmob123 said:
SK TOOLS check it out, everything you need
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i have looked at http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html there is nothing about font sizes, am i missing something?
@Tolar
i still have not found a way to make those glyphs small either, hopefully someone will figure it out eventually.
Everything is quiet like the grave... I haven't heard or read a single word if there is anything new in this rom except the tiny bug fixes announced by HTC...
Anybody who already upgraded, have you noticed something new???
Hey
Apart from the official line heres what ive noticed (in twelve hours)
1. Sliding Bar answer on incoming calls
2. Text input keys are smaller so that you can actually see whats on the screen when youre writing (sic)
3. Ever so slight speed improvement on finger sliding
4. Video Call re-replaced with contacts (life saver)
5. Might just be me but the fonts seem sharper and slightly smaller.
6. Add a word in text messaging for example now gives a tick and a cross instead of "add"
Just random little things Ive noticed but as they say, its the little things that count eh!
no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
and some speed improvements, but in winmo only (not touchflo).
hey just a couple more
7. When connecting to PC via USB you get a 3rd choice - internet sharing (as well as active sync and disk drive)
8. HTC flo text message section now has a forward option as well as reply and delete - no need to view all messages to forward
ill keep you posted (or not if no one is interested)
Thanks for the replies
I feel like the Sliding Bar on answering calls helped me decide to upgrade, even though I'll loose the flipping envelopes
Sliding Bar is good
Ability to forward text message from Touch flo is good
The rest are the icing on the cake!!!
Good luck - I had a bit of a scare with my upgrade last night - it stopped on 60% and told me the image file was corrupt. Worked second time though from the same file???
First bug: if you have activated a security PIN (like me) you can't block the phone keeping pressed the phone down button. The screen goes black for a fraction of second but the phone doesn't block.
Another thing I didn't notice before (so I'm not sure if it was the same in previous versions): you can add only 15 persons to your favorite contacts (the "Add to Favorites" buttons just disappears). BTW, is there any tweak to increase this limit?
its always been 15
I use speed dials - easier and possibly limited to 100 (not sure)
The favourites has always annoyed me - you cant seem to change the order in which they appear and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!
There's also a new Java engine, better than the old one. At least better for Opera Mini 4.2, fonts are now bigger and easier to read.
A recommended update.
jodeltje said:
no more flipping envelope when going to mail it's just there...
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My envelopes are flipping fine.... just as they always have!
And for anyone's who's interested; if you've been using any of the cooked ROM's which have been released recently, you won't notice any difference with this official release because the ROM cookers have been using v2.03 for weeks!
9. Agenda from home screen works correct now. Choose the view u'd like to see, (day, week, month whatever) and it will open up correctly right now, when opening Agenda from home screen.
10. When u select agenda or calls on the home screen, it will be selected by green. When u finished looking agenda or calls, and return to the home screen, the green selected option is gone, a clear screen with no green. (before the thing was always green when u turned back, it frustrated me )
Just 2 things i recognized!
I saw it at Singapore web site http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=483&news_id=44
jporch316 said:
...and they look boring without a picture (IMO)!
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They do indeed, but thanks to Facebook I have pictures for all of my favorite friends...
I'll give a look to speed dial too
with this new rom, i have a problem:
when i receive a message and open it with tf3d i can't type prompt.
i have to move down the text to see the last message and then i have to put the cursor on the correct place.
Its a rom update but is it aswell a radio update?
Willem
Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks
Jonfun said:
Noobie question,
As The HTC website won't accept my Orange UK Diamond S/N, would it be okay to download from another source, or do I have to wait until Orange to approve the newer ROM, and publish on their website confused
many thanks
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As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem
Wilsas said:
As far I now Orange use a own brand rom and when you start using a other rom you will lose your waranty, ofcoarse you can get a other rom just ask someone here to upload it, but you can use than aswell a coocked rom.
Willem
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Yeah, correct. Orange will distribute their own ROM's.
11. AKU version has been updated to allow synchronisation to two PC's (fixing the Activesync error 0x86000107).
Hey
A little bug that I found last night - I installed nadavvi-nadavvi-call-history cab - which installs an extra call history tab to the touchflo menu
Afterwards everytime i tried to access sms through touchflo i kept getting unexpected errors in manila.exe.
As soon as i uninstalled the call history tab sms started working again. Shame as i had this installed with the older rom with no probs and it is quite handy.
I've decided to do the upgrade tonight but I have a question:
All my apps are installed in the 4GB Internal Storage (Not the phone memory). Will the Internal Storage be viped out aswell during the upgrade?
If not, I guess all apps will be useless anyway since the registry is viped. Do you recommend uninstalling all the apps before the rom upgrade???