Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?
Jens- said:
Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?
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I have the tytn2 with t-mobile in the states and have the same issue. With no 3g incoming calls take a backseat to web browsing. If pages are already loaded then you get the call if data is in working mode (loading stuff) then the call goes to vm. With 3g it's a non-issue. But no 3g for t-mo here yet.
I can't say that I have the same problem. I haven't had any voicemails pop up without a call indicator. I am on AT&T and I too am in an EDGE network region.
I have noticed same problem with TyTn II on Orange, not found a fix yet!
MM
It is definitely a 2g/3g issue - 2g data transmission is not compatible with simultaneous voice while 3g is. I can easily duplicate this behavior by using commmgrpro to change the data band, open IE and call the cel simultaneously. This is not a phone issue to the best of my knowledge - no phones are capable of 2g/voice together, although some might do a better job of "prioritizing" a call over a data session.
RK
That is absolutely correct. Once in a 2G network only, you cannot use Voice and data at the same time. This is one of the main advantages of the 3G, where you can browse and get voice at the same time.
And there is no way around it. Either Voice, or data. Sorry.
I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?
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I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?
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Push email means you're constantly connected but it does not mean your phone is constantly transmitting/receiving data. It's only receiving data when you actually receive an email. So I doubt Push Email has any different priority settings.
it's operator phone equipment depended only
non of my 2g phones ever had call's sms's mms's blocked by grps
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Has anyone else experienced this problem.
Although the phone shows it is connected to the Orange network quite often voice calls to the phone go straight to the voicemail, it seems that the phone is taking so long to process the call that the network assumes it is switched off and then diverts the call to the voicemail. a text then arrives notifying me of a missed call. Any ideas.
Incidentally I put the sim card back in my Artemis and everything worked OK
alanwesty said:
Has anyone else experienced this problem.
Although the phone shows it is connected to the Orange network quite often voice calls to the phone go straight to the voicemail, it seems that the phone is taking so long to process the call that the network assumes it is switched off and then diverts the call to the voicemail. a text then arrives notifying me of a missed call. Any ideas.
Incidentally I put the sim card back in my Artemis and everything worked OK
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I too, seem to experience the same issue.. :\
It only seem to occurs after a while that the phone is in "extended sleep mode" (aka press the power key).
Now I'm trying a few things, I've switch the phone to GSM only network to see if THIS might be the issue... but if someone knows anything about this I'd be more than glad to be able to fix the issue
By the way my Kaiser is unbranded, the original HTC one!
You say you get a text re missed call, as opposed to a missed call notification. That would normally mean that the network couldn't see your phone - as normal internal missed calls (ie where you didnt asnwer) wouldn't send a text but would use an internal missed call counter.
So... do you have really weak 3g signal where you are and although the device thinks its connected, it isnt really?
Or is your device faulty...
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You say you get a text re missed call, as opposed to a missed call notification. That would normally mean that the network couldn't see your phone - as normal internal missed calls (ie where you didnt asnwer) wouldn't send a text but would use an internal missed call counter.
So... do you have really weak 3g signal where you are and although the device thinks its connected, it isnt really?
Or is your device faulty...
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Well I can say for me that the signal is always allmost full bars.
and I get txt msg saying either I have missed a call or that I have a new voicemail msg (Those are service provided by my carrier) So it's NOT "missed call notification" by WM.
So the network can't see your device when its trying to route a call to it...
Have you tried the device on GSM only? (settings, phone, band, change it from auto to gsm) to see if its a 3g network problem?
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So the network can't see your device when its trying to route a call to it...
Have you tried the device on GSM only? (settings, phone, band, change it from auto to gsm) to see if its a 3g network problem?
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Yeah that's what I mentionned earlier, so far it seems to be okay.
But what could cause this? The device switching between the networks?
I've got it as well, but I have to say I have experienced this on the Wizard also, and that's not a 3g phone. Also had it on the Universal, and that's why I used a Tornado for a year as it didn't occur on the smartphone version of WM5.
I had high hopes of such bugs being ironed out in WM6.
I use the power key to put it in standby, as I didn't want to leave the screen using power whilst it decided to go into standby by itself. Is this extended sleep/standby that I am activating the wrong thing to do? What should we do to get it into a light sleep?
Joe
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I've got it as well, but I have to say I have experienced this on the Wizard also, and that's not a 3g phone. Also had it on the Universal, and that's why I used a Tornado for a year as it didn't occur on the smartphone version of WM5.
I had high hopes of such bugs being ironed out in WM6.
I use the power key to put it in standby, as I didn't want to leave the screen using power whilst it decided to go into standby by itself. Is this extended sleep/standby that I am activating the wrong thing to do? What should we do to get it into a light sleep?
Joe
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Well I dunno if it's cause by that, but this settings is located in the Power options of the setttings pannel... in the advanced tab you can tell it tu activate it or not and after how long u want it to *turn off the device* (which is what I call gently the "extended power saving")
Just spoke to Orange, apparently the 3G network went down yesterday this coincided with us getting the 3 tytn's so has probably made the problem worse. We were going to send the phone back under the 7 day return policy but have now decided to change them onto the gsm network as suggested by orange and see what happens when the 3G network re-appears.
I had the exact same problem with my Hermes on Orange about 14 months ago - just for a couple of weeks - as they were having network issues on 3g in my area.
3G masts are quite temperamental and if your local 3g provision keeps failing, they will replace them.
I haven't had any repeats of the problems for over a year.
The only annoying things about having to switch down to GSM are 1) no simultaneous data and voice, 2) slower surfing over GPRS and 3) you will get used to the massive battery life increase and switching back will hurt!
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I had the exact same problem with my Hermes on Orange about 14 months ago - just for a couple of weeks - as they were having network issues on 3g in my area.
3G masts are quite temperamental and if your local 3g provision keeps failing, they will replace them.
I haven't had any repeats of the problems for over a year.
The only annoying things about having to switch down to GSM are 1) no simultaneous data and voice, 2) slower surfing over GPRS and 3) you will get used to the massive battery life increase and switching back will hurt!
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Just now I had a second round of this problem at work, and I had the same thing yesterday here. Very f***ing frustrating and since the primary function of a phone is to make calls, it's particularly ****e that it doesn't do it well.
No calls and only one out of 6 SMS's were delivered. I had to do a soft reset and then I had two voicemails and 5 unread SMS's pop up.
If the calls/SMS's were retrieved after a soft reset does this mean that it's the phone and not the transmitter? I use my phone for work and this is becoming a real problem.
I can foresee this phone being off to HTC for 'repair' getting a new unit, flogging it and going back to WM smartphone edition.
No - it sounds like a network issue.
Switch to GSM for a week. Then switch back and it should be fine.
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No - it sounds like a network issue.
Switch to GSM for a week. Then switch back and it should be fine.
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Yeah, I did some searching on the subject and saw it occurred on many different WM phones, and switched it to GSM only.
It didn't fix it, and it simply wouldn't ring. I checked by calling from a colleague's phone and it displayed: 'warning active call divert on' or something like it.
I was most pissed off, as per my previous post.
When I got home, I activated (via network codes) call divert to my car phone number, then sent the cancel network code to deactivate it.
Tested via home phone and it rang. It was active (screen on) and rang withing one ring on the home phone. So I pressed the power button and tried it. Same result, imperceptibly slower if it was slower.
I work in a pre-fab unit made from corrugated steel on top of a hospital (obviously some sort of rapid office space 'solution'), and whilst I get 2 to 4 bars of 3G in there, and seeing the issues whilst on GSM only, I am totally and utterly confused as to the cause of the problem!
The Kaiser is however, on probation. For now
Cheers,
Joe
joebongo said:
Yeah, I did some searching on the subject and saw it occurred on many different WM phones, and switched it to GSM only.
It didn't fix it, and it simply wouldn't ring. I checked by calling from a colleague's phone and it displayed: 'warning active call divert on' or something like it.
I was most pissed off, as per my previous post.
When I got home, I activated (via network codes) call divert to my car phone number, then sent the cancel network code to deactivate it.
Tested via home phone and it rang. It was active (screen on) and rang withing one ring on the home phone. So I pressed the power button and tried it. Same result, imperceptibly slower if it was slower.
I work in a pre-fab unit made from corrugated steel on top of a hospital (obviously some sort of rapid office space 'solution'), and whilst I get 2 to 4 bars of 3G in there, and seeing the issues whilst on GSM only, I am totally and utterly confused as to the cause of the problem!
The Kaiser is however, on probation. For now
Cheers,
Joe
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Hmmm really weird! keep us posted on your experiences
I was wondering is there a setting on the TyTN II that I can set to make calls my first priority. When I'm using the internet on my phone, no calls can come through. My service provider said the calls should come through while going onto and said it's probably something I set on my phone that isn't letting the calls get through.
So.. is there a setting I can set to be able to receive calls while using the internet? By the way I'm using EDGE network, not 3G
i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet
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i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet
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hmm.. I thought so, but the representative said the calls should come through, so I was just asking to see if it really is possible.
Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.
Nghiem said:
Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.
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I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.
I have a similar question.
Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?
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Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?
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yup, you can
Actually I got a question that's somewhat related.. Calls do come through when I use 3G/HSDPA connection.. however, if I pick up - connection terminates... isn't HSDPA supposed to let you talk and use internet at the same time?
when im using gprs i can reeive calls but it kicks off my gprs connection - very annoying - so i guess this isnt a fully fledged device capable of both at the same time - there are three types right, 1 2 and 3?
if your phone is locked to wcdma in the network settings then yes, you can browse the internet and recieve pictures,.
I have found that when the phone is set to Auto selection, it always drops back to gsm to carry the phone calls (maybe this is network dependent), which while on gsm calls, the data connection is suspended.
Not all ROMS offer this functionality, I can confirm the the original HTC ROM for the kaiser does!
One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.
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I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.
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Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.
lcohen999 said:
Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.
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okay. thanks
mbritten said:
One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.
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I'm already using callwave, but the thing is that my emails aren't coming through to my phone sometimes, push email doesn't work at all.
i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up
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i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up
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But AT&T has their 3G network, I'm using t-mobile which doesn't
Something giving me mad, is the fact that since a long times using WM phone I was not able to receive calls when I am connecting to internet and using the bandwith, like for streaming, surfing the web etc....
It seems that when you use the internet connection, it is not possible to make a call, and worst not possible to RECEIVE any call !!! That's very annoying me since I must be joinable all the time for my work clients !
I have used QTEK 8300, TyTN, TyTN II, now Touch Diamond, and It is always the same problem, may be something I make wrong in my settings, but It seems that I am not the only one ! May be depending on my operator, because in the past I was by another operator (Proximus) but with a nokia phone and in GPRS, and when I was surfing the net, if a call arrived the internet communication pause and resume after the call.
Now with mobistar I have last technology phone and always in EDGE but was totaly unable to receive call when using internet ! The operator can't apparently help me !
If any of you have any proposal to resolve this problem let's me know
Thanks for all your help
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Nobody can help me ? Have you same problem also ?
i have the same problem when i use internet over EDGE
I have this issue also, if i have ActiveSync set to push email so theres always a data connection i cannot receive any calls. Ive never had this problem before with any other HTC phone though and im on Tmob the same as i was before
Strange situation and apparently nobody can explain why that appear and how to troubleshoot :-(
May be I have post in the wrong section, there are a Networking section in the General Folder. But it seems that it is also depending on the phone you have maybe the rom have influence or some settings, apparently that's not coming from the operator.
Hope somebody can help us !
Hello,
I have the same issue with my HTC Diamond with Belite ROM.
Has anyone the answer to this problem? is there a setting that must be changed? I can't imagine that a business phone has this problem, I never had this with my Nokia's E-series!
Is the HTC diamond a Class A Grps phone??
Class A, Class B & Class C?
The class indicates the mobile phone capabilities.
Class A
Class A mobile phones can be connected to both GPRS and GSM services simultaneously.
Class B
Class B mobile phones can be attached to both GPRS and GSM services, using one service at a time. Class B enables making or receiving a voice call, or sending/receiving an SMS during a GPRS connection. During voice calls or SMS, GPRS services are suspended and then resumed automatically after the call or SMS session has ended.
Class C
Class C mobile phones are attached to either GPRS or GSM voice service. You need to switch manually between services.
I have push email going ALL day and don't have any problem taking phone calls - after all that would be totally pointless to offer services like that, that don't work together.
Try a different ROM, or call your service provider and ask them if it is something to do with them - as the Diamond can do all this no problems...
EDIT: You might want to install Diamond Tweak - there is a setting in there (Setting 6.1) that the author mentions altering might disable simultaneous voice and data connections. Have a play around with that setting and see if it helps.
yeah get in touch with HTC and ask them about it
xr2i said:
Hello,
I have the same issue with my HTC Diamond with Belite ROM.
Has anyone the answer to this problem? is there a setting that must be changed? I can't imagine that a business phone has this problem, I never had this with my Nokia's E-series!
Is the HTC diamond a Class A Grps phone??
Class A, Class B & Class C?
The class indicates the mobile phone capabilities.
Class A
Class A mobile phones can be connected to both GPRS and GSM services simultaneously.
Class B
Class B mobile phones can be attached to both GPRS and GSM services, using one service at a time. Class B enables making or receiving a voice call, or sending/receiving an SMS during a GPRS connection. During voice calls or SMS, GPRS services are suspended and then resumed automatically after the call or SMS session has ended.
Class C
Class C mobile phones are attached to either GPRS or GSM voice service. You need to switch manually between services.
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Diamond is class B. There are no class A phones in the market that I know about.
You should be able to at least make calls whilst using GPRS (data trasnfer goes to idle and resume after call ends).
It works fine here (vodafone UK) to make calls, but not to receive them. This is known to happen on all phones, being a limitation of vodafone UK network in GPRS only.
If it does not work for you guys, there are two possible explanations:
1) Something wrong with the ROM your are using -> unlikely.
OR
2) Something to do with your operator network. Are you all having problem over GPRS/EDGE only?
I believe point 2 is more likely to be the issue, because apparently GPRS/EDGE may not support concurrent voice and data transmission on some networks, even if the phone is class B. This is a "limitation" of the specific network infrastructure. Your only solution is not to use GPRS and use 3G (and more battery juice).
But I am not sure this is an option for you, if you have no 3G coverage.
Cheers!!
mrfrank said:
Diamond is class B. There are no class A phones in the market that I know about.
You should be able to at least make calls whilst using GPRS (data trasnfer goes to idle and resume after call ends).
It works fine here (vodafone UK) to make calls, but not to receive them. This is known to happen on all phones, being a limitation of vodafone UK network in GPRS only.
If it does not work for you guys, there are two possible explanations:
1) Something wrong with the ROM your are using -> unlikely.
OR
2) Something to do with your operator network. Are you all having problem over GPRS/EDGE only?
I believe point 2 is more likely to be the issue, because apparently GPRS/EDGE may not support concurrent voice and data transmission on some networks, even if the phone is class B. This is a "limitation" of the specific network infrastructure. Your only solution is not to use GPRS and use 3G (and more battery juice).
But I am not sure this is an option for you, if you have no 3G coverage.
Cheers!!
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Like I said, I run with GSM most times of the day unless I do some web browsing or use the Diamond as a modem. Near enough GSM all the time. Push email all the time. No problems with simultaneous data/voice connections as the phone rings during all of this.
Like I said above - check any registry tweaks you have done related to GPRS (auto attach, disconnect timer, etc) and if you're still unsure HARD RESET and TEST IT.
Other than that the last remaining factor is your network provider. Borrow a friends SIM card and TEST IT!
Hi
When i want to connect GPRS network on my htc touch diamond, my phone connect EDGE instead of gprs and the E icon show on taskbar !
and ther is no internet.
Please Help me
All,
I made some testing and i can confirm that when i load some data (refresh a webpage in opera) and make a call to my diamond using another handset :
In Edge: i can't reach the diamond and go directly to the voicemai. I can reach the diamond only when there is no datatransitting.
In 3G: i can call and reach the diamond without a problem!
Note that in 3G and in gsm, it is impossible to make a call and simulteanously surf on opera (
Can some of you make similar tests?
My testing was made on Belgian Mobistar Network.
I will also make some additional tests with my nokia e51.
cheerz
Any other experniences? I still have the issue (
Still nobody suffering from this issue?
I can't receive calls while i'm connected in gprs!
I'm using the official HTC 1.93 ROM
Please help me out.
When I am using data, and I receive a phone call, I notice that my GPRS connection becomes 'suspended'. You can see this by clicking the 'G' or 'E' icon in the taskbar on the Diamond.
If you're using 3G then you can do both at once without suspension.
Orange in the UK... tested conclusively...
When connected to GPRS and not receiving data a call will get through, however when data packets are in the process of being received, any incoming call is put to voicemail.
In practice, if you set GPRS on full time, this won't be a very noticeable factor in an average day, due to the ratio of time data is actually in transmission for push email etc, to when it isn't. In fact I'd say daily radio drop-out for the average user would result in far greater down time imho. As for time spent surfing on GPRS, I think due to the speed implications, for the majority of users this would be of negligible impact in an average day, and it will be lessened further by virtue of being aware that you're not contactable in that period of data use.
As for edge and 3g, I can't say yet, as I only get them when I go into town... but I suspect edge will yield the same results as GPRS. Not sure about 3g, but would hope it's able to work independently. If I remember, I'll report more findings in the next few days.
m having the same problem with my x1
whenever i am using edge i cant receive calls
if anyone found the solution
pls tell me....
i have touch HD (BLACKSTONE) ,,, i could do both for a long time ,, but now i cant it disconnects my data connection when i pick the phone ,, and when i finish the phone it connects back ,, but im 100% sure i could pick phone calls with out data connection getting disconnected
Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
Yes google voice need wifi/data to connect.
vadox6466 said:
Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Didnt think of that one..+1 to you
now that the topic is here, a little off topic but how do u use google voice? doesnt it like put your voicemail as a text message or email n send it to u? i tried sending a voicemail to myself through a different number but i got nothing. how does this work?
Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
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Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
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Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
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Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
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Yep, I hear ya. I just said it because the OP indicated that they were on a prepaid plan.. so wanted to make sure they knew that GV isn't some sort of VoIP application. (making calls will chew up their prepaid credit)
For "true" calling over wifi, you need Sipdroid/fring.
Add inbound and outbound numbers to friends and family plan. Minutes won't be used or billed.
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Hello friends,
So I bought an Optimus L90 so that I could talk to my mother who had to go abroad using the Wifi calling feature. This should be simple but it's turned into a nightmare.
I do not have access to the device which of course makes it million times harder so someone else has to do everything for me. This is gonna be painfully slow! Is there an app that could let me control the phone like remote desktop sharing only, the other way around (use PC to access a cellphone?)
So what's the problem you ask? Let me explain.
When we turn on the WiFi calling and try to make a call. The device starts using a local network which basically tells us (in the local language) that you have to use the right area code and what not. Now this doesn't make sense. Why the hell is it hoping on to a local network? If we use a local network, it's gonna cost me an arm and a leg!
So then I asked my brother to use the third option which is:
"Never use Cellular Network:All calls are made over a Wi-Fi network. If there are no available Wi-Fi networks, phone calls will not connect."
In theory this should work by all means BUT, then the phone says "To make calls you have to turn off the airplane mode". The problem here is that the freggin airplane mode is NOT on. So I asked my brother to turn it on and then turn it off to MAKE SURE that it is off. Try the whole thing again and it keeps giving the same error.
So to sum it up.
When using the Wifi Calling Preferred option. It hops on to a local network.
When using the Never use Cellular Network option, it tells us to turn off the airplane mode even though it is not ON to begin with.
What am I missing guys? What the heck am I supposed to do?
I called the T-Mobile technical support department but naturally, there are bunch of idiots who can't even begin to understand a simple problem.
You guys are my last option here. Please, someone help!
My apologies for not having seen this post sooner; otherwise I would have answered it immediately. Wi-Fi calling requires a service provider as it would still use the plan's minutes. The only difference is the signal strength. Instead of relying on the strength of the cellular tower for making the call, it uses the Wi-Fi's router strength to determine how strong a connection it will have.
The only way to make a Wi-Fi call without the use of a mobile service provider would be by using an app such as Skype or Google Voice which still cost pre-paid minutes through those services.
You could browse the app market to see if any offer free VoIP service, but it's unlikely there are any that are free, or will not require mobile service.
As the message is being received in another language, I assume there's a different SIM card in the phone. While abroad with my T-mobile card, all the messages I receive are in English. Wi-Fi calling runs through T-mobile, and I suspect it's not working because of that.
As for the other options, Xanscorp is correct. Your best bet is Skype or Google Voice/Hangouts dialer. I believe calls to the US made through Google are free, however, but it will cost a few cents per minute (varies on the country) to dial anywhere else.