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im elegible for a new contract with att and i wanna get the tilt but idont wanna get those pda plans, do i have to get that or is there a way around it? i just want unlimited internet and 1500 texts that i have and i dont want anything extra. thanks
Upgrade through newegg.com, thats what I've done. Worked like a charm.
I've upgraded on their christmas sale, got brand new Kaiser for $150 (rebate for $100 just came) with 2 year contract. They tried to make me pay $40/mo for unlimited internet, but after some haggling they gave it to me for $20/mo.
I've installed Gutty's ROM, enabled HSDPA and voila - unlimited HSDPA for $20/mo.
Currently NewEgg is only requiring a Voice plan with their upgrade price. Not data. That is the very reason I went with them as opposed to LetsTalks.com or wirefly.com. Not one time did they even suggest the PDA connect plan. My upgrade was done one month ago through their website.
i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.
i just upgraded my 8125 to the 8925 through buy.com for $149. kept the same minutes and got the unlimited date plan for $24.99/month. Not too bad, but I had the data plan with my 8125 for only $19.99. So they had to charge me $5 extra a month. Probably BS but its not that big of a deal.
rico002 said:
i dont want a voice plan though... iwnat to keep wha ti have just the device upgrade and not have the pda plans but still get the 3G wit media max 1500 text and unlimited video and internet.....i heard online from the att website lets u update just the device and not add a plan but i have seen that option and still give u the price u want.
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A PDA plan IS the data plan...I think what you are asking is if it can be done without getting a voice plan while keeping a data/pda/media net plan. Is this correct? Honestly, if so I would just hop on the phone and call at&t or even wirefly/letstalk.com, I've never seen that offered online, but I haven't looked either.
no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.
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no person that you talk to at AT&T is going to let you put the mediamax $20 plan on the tilt.. i even talked to a friend of a friend trying to get the hookup, and he said they will NOT do it..
however, there are ways to get it done by changing the plan yourself online perhaps (start new plan with no data, then add data - mediamax $20 - via their website), but those aren't garaunteed - and if they ever closed those gaps then you would be stuck..
i bit the bullet and i pay the full $40/mo for data.. i may try to switch to the $20/mo plan to give it a whirl, but i know that there are no guarantees that AT&T won't change it back.
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Ummm, just change your data plan to $20 media max on the Account Management website. If it won't show you the Media Max as an option, change your device type to something like a Samsung SYNC. You can always change it back to a Tilt if you need to RMA.
here it is: my cuz i had 8525 bought an 8925 and didnt notify att and kept his data plan it was 1500 text wit unlimited everything, but they didnt know he had the tilt ( iguess) and i want to upgrade to the tilt and keep the same voice and the data plan that i have (same as above for 29.99) and not get that extra pda plan that they told me i have to get...but online i heard it says device upgrade only but i cannot find that option and pay a cheaper price like the blackjack 2 i could get for 100 after rebate and keep the same data plan w/o changing anything.
Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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When you got your tilt, did you sign up for a new contract? If not then you should still have your old plan. They are grandfathered in. They CANNOT take it away unless YOU switch your plan. Just be aware that you cannot access 3G with the SIM card from your 8125, you will need a 3G SIM for that.
well i think i did sign up for the 2 year aggrement... but i did get a new sim card. but can they really change your plan with out telling you and make it 10$ more expensive?
Are you sure about that statement? There are no contracts for data plans like there are for voice plans to my knowledge anymore except for a few specialized data plans (most of those like some international data plans are 1yr commitments). Thats why you can add and cancel your data plan at any time without having to pay an Early Termination Fee.
I've gone thru some of my contracts for the past few years and I don't see anything stating any data plans have a commitment form either party. Only Voice.
well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
Yeah this happened to me as well. When I got my tilt they chopped my old plan to hell and back and to get it working right I ended up having to pay more money than on my old plan. Sucked and for some reason it's a hit or miss whether or not I get pictures messages now.
Ok, well i guess i will try my best to have them give me the 60$ plan for 40$... just have to make them feel horable for it
they do it cuz they make commision off u
its in the contract u signed. they lie, cheat.
thats how corporate is though.
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
stealthj said:
just ask them to switch you to a media net unlimited plan $15
tell them u have a regular phone not pda, and ask for the $15 media net unlimited
and teather, but i hear they put a cap on it.
i cant believe any of u guys would pay more than 20 bux for unlimited internet,
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
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One time when i was in the At&t store talking to a rep making adjustments to my plan, he noticed the HIGH data usage and saw that i had a medianet plan and not pda connect on my 8525 (this was about 6 months ago).
He tried to force me to switch to the $49.99 pda connect plan but i just persisted that i bought the 8525 from them with that plan so he let it slide (although it was an imate jasjam and not att's branded 8525 )
BUT he warned me that if i get "Caught", and he said i will, they will charge me per KB which will have the bill break through the roof! But i know if this happens i can just go to the store with my bill and add the pda plan and have them cancel the charges. (i've done this before when i went over my minutes, messages, and kb when i was on a 5mb plan, not unlimitted)
I haven't been caught yet and last week i switched to the unlimited pda data plan for $30 so i'm playing it safe now (but still tethering )
ALso i can not connect to isp.cingular, i thought that was the point of the pda plan. Do i have to call and ask them to allow me to access isp.cingular?
From my experience, wap.cingular is faster than isp.cingular.
I have the $45/mo PDA Unlimited Plan (includes 500 any-type messages), and I tether using wap.cingular. I get 50-100kb/sec download speeds on my laptop when tethered.
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What about the fact that they are now monitoring the IMEI of the phone you are using and if it is in their database (AT&T Branded) then they'll know he should at least have the $30 plan. (Which is still a lot better than $50)
Anybody know what happens if AT&T figures out you are on the wrong plan? Do they switch you to the $30 plan or try to charge you outrageous fees?
I don't want to tether, and I'm offended that I should have to pay 2x for the same service just because I bought the wrong phone! Maybe somebody will come up with a way to repair our IMEI soon.
This post talks about the automatic device detection at AT&T: http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=10576027&postcount=28
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I just keep changing my phone on AT&T Billing and everything works okay thus far
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well i mean i got the two year contract to keep the price of the phone low. (the 100$ off with 2 year contract) so yes it is for voice but the guy changed my data plan for some reason
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oh I do believe that is with their data plan. Your paying $10 more a month for $100 off in 6 months or something.
PDA Connect Unlimited still available, AFAIK
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. . . i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
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Ok im almost ready to sue AT&T for how long this is taking. I have spent 5 hr on the phone trying to get my data plan back...
Here is what happened. my 8125 with a 2 year old cingular unlimuted data plan (40$) included tethering and there access to isp.cingular. well my phone died so i went out and got a tilt. i bring it home and i look online and find that the (trying my best not to sware) horable sales men switched my plan to a 10$ more expensive one with out asking me. So then i have to spend time getting my plan back. so they revert it to a 40$ plan but i cant connect to the isp.cingular. i call back, go to there head it person and he says you can get it back. you need to spend 60$ on a plan that supports this. (im thinking you people messed this up, un mess it up) so i kall more times and i get nowhere. all them dont understand me and think im having a problem with wap.cingular even tho i say wap works. i mean i have been using the isp all through out the time i had my 8125 and loved it. now i get a diled isp.cingular. unable to connect.
so what do you think i should do. i have spent too much time on this but i want my old plan back. does anyone have any ideas or advice. (and yes i have gone to the manager wice... they were less helpfull then the others)
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Typically if you read the two year agreements or rebate agreements they will say that it's only valid with a specific data and voice plan of at least $X value. That's not uncommon.
As for getting back a grandfathered plan. I know at Sprint, depending on how old the plan was, once it was deprovisioned the system just was no longer capable of reprovisioning it. No matter how much you wanted it to.
My guess is though that you did in fact agree to have your plan changed. They just didn't make it any more clear than they legally have to.
cushcalc said:
Speak to an AT&T rep that knows about this, and cares, and knows the tricks. I suggest Gyngabread Man here on this forum - send him a PM. He got me fixed up properly with the PDA Connect Unlimited plan for $39.95/mo. and I have access to isp.cingular as well as wap.cingular.
Good luck!
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My mistake... I am on the $39.99 PDA Unlimited plan. I was on a strange combination of Data and Messaging plans until I went into an AT&T store to buy a pair bluetooth headphones, and the rep looked at my account and pointed out that I could save money by combining my 2 options into this 1 plan.
this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
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this wut i did....i got a crappy phone ( real crappy) not a pda or smartphone and got the data plan 25 bucks i think unlimited internet and text now its 30 cuz i added 5 to get unlimited text and they asked me y do u want unlimited for my phone and said cuz i like it and then i changed to the tilt on craigslist bout mine for 250 and just put my sim with all my data plan and no problems
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That is a cute trick, but you are not the first to think of it. AT&T can tell that your are on the tilt. The browser requests contain information about what OS you are using. You probably are not using ridiculous amounts of data, so they have no reason to look. If they ever do look tho, they will see you are on WM, and they will switch you to the correct plan without warning.
I work for AT&T Tech Support. For the sake of keeping my job i'll call my self BoB.
Anyway you can still tether with wap.cingular as mentioned before. The only way we'd catch you is if you were downloading torrent or excessive amounts of data. We recently changed our data features which I think is retarded.
One thing they don't tell you is that the new Tethering plans which cost money out the ass have a 5GB soft limit.
What this means is that after 5GB of data you have used, AT&T will monitor any usage past the 5gb. The reason for this is so that they could price their data plans accordingly, hopefully for the better but in this world probably will be for the worse.
If you are casually browsing just use internet sharing in your phone to tether. Go to File Explorer-Windows-Scroll down about halfway to Internet Sharing then hit connect.
YOu could also go to wmwifirouter.com and download the app straight from the phone, it turns your phone into a router and you can just tether like that. I think it's ridiculous to charge so much for data. Sprint (even though I would never switch) Has their unlimited everything for 99 dollars, data, gps, voice, tv, etc. That just goes to show you how much unlimited data is actually worth.
Get a 19.99 Medianet Unlimited Plan, 19.99 Unl Messaging and you are set
Just get a RaZR and switch your sim card out, place a couple of test calls, and boom call in to have it changed or go online to make the change. After you have both features on put SIM back into TILT and you're done. I feel so bad when I tell a customer that in order to tether they need a 60 dollar feature. I'd feel insulted if that were me.
Thanks everyone for this help... after reading i guess my new question is what is so different between isp and wap... i thought it was like wap goes through a proxy and is not "THE internet" where as isp is "THE internet". is that right? also i would run a speed test too but well i cant.
Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help
I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.
I have unlimited media net (max I think) with unlimited messaging ($35/month). I was conned for several months with the persoanl pda bundle ($50/month) until I found out I can use media net max. Live and learn I guess.
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Hi, I was wondering how much a data plan with ATT would cost me on a tilt, I currently dont have one and am relying on WiFi most of the time. The reason I initially did not want a data plan is because I thought they started at $40 a month or so.
On ATT's website, they have unlimited Media Net plans starting at $15 a month...is this the same as the data plans most of you guys have? Will I be able to do everything requiring a 3g connection?
Thanks in advance for any help
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I am a tech for att. here is the trick, i am assuming you have a tilt, therefore the imei of the tilt is registered with att, so what you will need to do is put your sim in a crap phone (non pda) then call cust care ant tell them that you want media net, make sure your tilt is not registered with att if it is go to a store with your sim in the non tilt phone and ad media net. its that simple. i do it for people all the time because the pda plan and media net has no technical difference just the money...
I been having Media Net for the longest time, proably since they started having it. I been having PDA phones for it for many years as well. With Media net ($15/m) yes you get to use all the 3g connectivity all you want with no problem.
mchapman007 said:
I use the unlimited media net with 200 text. I can do everything! Don't let them con you into getting the way more expensive PDA service.
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that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm
hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks
i just added unlimited media net for $15 by calling the after hours center.
rdt1999 said:
hey i see what your saying. i have the family messaging plan. in my account can i not just put my sim card in my old razr then go to add feature and select the 15.00 media net... will that work or will i need to call them....
thanks
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u need to call afterhours center here is the number if you want to call today
866-801-3600
rdt1999 said:
that is the package i have and i get charged fo rinternet use... hmmmm
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I don't, it's unlimited.....
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I don't, it's unlimited.....
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me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice
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me neither...
here's all the data plans they have in my zip..
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...10009&LOSGId=&catName=Data/SmartPhone+Connect
perhaps that 15 buck plan is an old "grandfathered" plan that is not available anymore like the 1000 mins I get for $39 plus rollover since 2003
So tell me again how to get unlimited data for $15 ? Wud b nice
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i just got it read previous posts by me
will do thanks for all th info...
I am a sales rep in a AT&T store. On the 15 dollar plan, don't go over 5gb a month. If you do AT&T will charge additional fees and remove your current data plan. They will call before they change your plan.
Already signed up for $40 data plan - Can I "downgrade"
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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Call ATT, tell them you have a regular phone, like the W580i, and want to downgrade your data to the standard $15 a month MediaNet.
atsitalian said:
My wife and I each have a Tilt. I have the $40 per month data plan and my wife has no data plan. Is there any way I can "downgrade" my data plan and possibly add a dataplan to my wife's phone to "break even" or possibly even save some money?
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do you use text messages?
How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?
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How is the best way to check to see if your getting close to the 5gb amount,is it on the phone or ?
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If you are only browsing on your phone, you are never going to use 5gb a month. That is mainly if you are going to connect it to your computer for the internet.
Hey thanks for the reply well at 15.00 i think ill get the service on my old cell phone and switch over to the tillt,thanks man....
If I had a blackberry internet/email plan from tmob. (the $19.99 one) how can i set it so i can use it on the G1 with out paying the G1 internet package?
For my girlfriend, she basically gets a deal with blackberry plans and can't switch but wants a G1.
And yes I searched/looked at the APN thread but I need full detailed descriptions/help please anyone..
I had a blackberry before getting my g1, and hence, I had the blackberry internet plan.
When I got my g1 (from craigslist), the blackberry internet plan worked with it.
...then couple of hours later it stopped working, so I had to get the g1 plan.
Sounds like it might... only way to tell is to try it.
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I had a blackberry before getting my g1, and hence, I had the blackberry internet plan.
When I got my g1 (from craigslist), the blackberry internet plan worked with it.
...then couple of hours later it stopped working, so I had to get the g1 plan.
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Friends are telling me to get the APN code from the blackberry and put it in the G1 APN settings, and it'll work. True?
G1-evolve said:
Friends are telling me to get the APN code from the blackberry and put it in the G1 APN settings, and it'll work. True?
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Sure work great, since it'd technically be connecting through Blackberry's plan, not the regular T-Mobile one. Try it and find out. If not, the upgrade is only $5 a month more.
after checking with a friend of mine who works for tmo's tech care, i can tell you this: it wont work...for long.
you'll experience one of two things:
a.) it will work for a few hours, then it will shut off.
b.) it will work until the end of your current billing cycle, and then it will shut off.
also, the blackberry plans are bandwidth limited unless you're on the business blackberry plan, so even if it works until the end of your billing cycle, the G1 uses far more bandwidth than the blackberry does, so theres a potential that you could go over the cap and be charged for the excess when you have to switch over to the G1 plan. either that or they can just backcharge you for a months usage of a G1 plan.
I think if I were you, I'd bite the bullet and pay the extra 5 bucks a month.
I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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If you sign up for a data plan it will have to be the 30 dollar smartphone plan. There is no way around it.
Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.
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Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.
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The network will recognize the phone as a Tilt and you will automatically be put on the $30 data plan
The Chenizzle said:
I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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I am still on MediaMax plan from back in the day. It is a plan they no longer offer that is unlimited data (on the wap network) and 200 Text messages.
Only $20.00 per month. I got grandfathered in before all this new Data Plan nonsense came into play.
Just don't connect to [email protected]
No one at ATT ever told me I had to change it, (I didn't really ask either) and I have spoken with them several times about other phones on my account.
Here we go on the data plan merry go round
Here comes your $15 data plan
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...lan-prices-ends-unlimited-offer-update3-.html