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Here are my computer's specs:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...4322&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
Only difference is that it's been upgraded to 4Gb of RAM.
My issue is this: My cpu cooling fan recently died and my comp has been overheating and shutting down. Under load it's been as high as 97*C before shutdown. Obviously I need a new fan but getting THAT hot has to be bad for the CPU so I might as well upgrade while I'm in there. I was just told by HP support that my motherboard (Narra2-GL8E) will only handle CPUs from 45W to 65W. I was really hoping to upgrade to amd 64 x2 6400+ processor but according to them it would be wayyy too much for the motherboard. I'm operating under the assumption that the rep was full o' **** and feeding me some standardized response so as not to encourage me to do something that *could* possibly be damaging to my pc.
My question is what's the best processor can I realistically upgrade to with my current set-up??
I've got the Pavilion Elite m9402f, almost exact same specs, except it has 7GB of RAM, and runs at 2.3GHz. Watch that GPU, it sucks! Seems like the NVIDIA card isn't supplied with enough power. It prob isn't the reason for the overheating, but if you use any graphic-intensive apps/games, it may not help the issue.
Believe it or not, but the HP rep may have been correct. Your motherboard won't support CPU's with the designation AM2+. When AMD released the AM2+ CPU's, they intended them to be backwards compatible with existing AM2 motherboards. However, most manufacturers have refused to release the BIOS updates to allow this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM2+
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01080282&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&product=3445425
The 6400 is a special CPU that actually should have been released for the AM2+. But since the HT speed is the same as your stock processor, the wattage won't matter. I will warn you, the 6400 has been known to have severe overheating issues. You'll likely spend a good chunk in a high quality heatsink/fan for the processor.
The HP site doesn't list a PSU. What is the rating on yours? That may be what the rep was referring to... I couldn't imagine HP building a machine with more than enough wattage for the internal components. Usually PC Manufacturers cut those things pretty close to keep costs down.
I ended up deciding to err on the side of caution and bought an x2 5600+ processor to throw in there. My power supply is only 250W and that's definitely on the list of things to replace. Gonna need a better power supply to put a half decent GPU in there. Going to install the new CPU and heatsink/fan tomorrow and see if that doesn't help. I have a feeling there are other issues though...to be continued..?
**As a confusing little edit to the situation..upon closer inspection it turns out that the cpu fan IS actually working. So now I'm even more lost. It's understandable to run hot with no fan..but with a fully functional fan?!**
I put this dell dimension 4600 mobo(pulled from the Dimension 4600 in my bigger tower case(Gateway Performance 1500) its specs are as follows:
P4 2.8ghz
521 ram(May be 1.5, or 2gb depends if I can get money)
GeForce 6800 GT OC
What could I run with that? This is my first computer that I can upgrade around and change things. What do you think it can run?
Also what games can it handle and what games cant it?
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I put this dell dimension 4600 mobo(pulled from the Dimension 4600 in my bigger tower case(Gateway Performance 1500) its specs are as follows:
P4 2.8ghz
521 ram(May be 1.5, or 2gb depends if I can get money)
GeForce 6800 GT OC
What could I run with that? This is my first computer that I can upgrade around and change things. What do you think it can run?
Also what games can it handle and what games cant it?
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Not too many, if you want me to name some i could, i know alot about windows and comps but nothing about OSX or linux.
Ace42 said:
Not too many, if you want me to name some i could, i know alot about windows and comps but nothing about OSX or linux.
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Which games? I need like a general area. I wouldn't be running very recent games, pre 2009. No big ones either like crysis XD.
OS would be XP Pro SP3 just for stability and low resources.
Upgrade to 2GB it'll easily run C&C Generals \ Zero Hour \ GuildWars \ Return to Castle Wolfenstein \ Battlefield etc
I have the same setup a P4 2.8GHz as third computer it's just a Media Center running XP Pro SP3 Dual boot Geexbox
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Which games? I need like a general area. I wouldn't be running very recent games, pre 2009. No big ones either like crysis XD.
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-BF2
-Bf2142
-cod 1/2 maybe 4 on low settings
-Counter strike
- half life
-pacman
- need for speed most wanet/carbon/undercver/pro
-spiderman webs of shadows
-transformers 1 or 2
-assassin creed 1 low-med maybe
-you need to update your drivers
go here http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/
-Get direct X from microsoft site ro wherever
Some i listed might run on lowish but you should look up OC your spu w/ nvidia sys tools 6.05.
I was able to get cod4 mw2 running high on a 8400m gs OC, with smooth frames but too many effects slow it down.Android been eatin away at my wallet lol
So basically any steam game would run fine(Valve games, CS:S, HL2, DoD, DoD:S. .ect)?
What would be a better option, ram, or new gfx card[Which kind?](not crazy like a dual sli or something like that), then get ram later?
You'd be better off getting RAM first as no matter how good you get a GPU @ the mo your bottleneck will be RAM, then take a look @ 8800GT or the 9800GT's as they have dropped dramatically in price since the 2XX series.
you can run cod 2 on near max settings on an radeon x300, so you should be ok with that.
Crysis might run!
need for speed shift i dont think will run (it dosnt run on mine.
Online games:
Project torque!
aeria games
that runs decent.
flyboy
Depending on your budget, look for a second piece of hardware (besides more ram as mentioned) i personally would go for a new cpu (quad core q6600 is <$200 now afaik) but you could also go for a new gpu instead (either dx10, they will be cheap soon, or get a advantage and get a dx11 card, wich are releasing pretty much now)
Then you can play most games on more then decent settings.
just my 2 cents
(tbh i still run a pc i build 2 years ago, q6600 @ 2.8, geforce 8800gts 640mb 8gb ram, ram upgrade i did roughlly 6 months ago, had 2gb before)
Right now, I don't have a budget at all. If I did have enough money I would go on newegg and get some things to make a decent rig. Right now my "Budget" would be >50. That's why I ask if I should get a GPU or ram, cause I can't get anything else with out having to get something else lol, like the CPU, that would most likely need a new mobo, and new mobo means that I would need a new power supply(Current on both towers 250). This is really like my first experience with custom builds, and I need to learn more than what I already know.
LOL, here is my wish list from Newegg:
CD/DVD burner - Want
ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 AGP 8X HDCP Ready - WANT!!!
PSU 480 W - Need if I get GPU, but I want
1gb (512x2) - Need
Any suggestions? Cheaper and better things? Please give me input, I am gonna try to propose this to my mom. Cheaper = better for me(just not so cheap I compromise a decent gaming computer that can handle some recent games), so I need this info asap.
I don't need a HDD, since I have a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter on the way for my 60gb hdd on my laptop at my dads, totalling the hdd space I have to 100(plenty for right now lol).
My Gaming Computer Wish list:
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
2------Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
2------XFX GS250XYDFU GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Retail
KINGWIN Mach 1 ABT-800MA1S 800W ATX / BTX SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply - Retail
OCZ Gold 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2G8008GQ - Retail
DFI LANParty DK P45-T2RS Elite LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500 - Retail
LG Black 8X Blu-ray Burner SATA Model WH08LS20 - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Thermaltake A4021 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Any suggestions/feedback? Please provide suggestions for my needed list 2 posts above aswell .
Looks good but try to get only what you need and wait next year or christmas to get a dx11 card.
Gotta ask. It's a 2.8Ghz P4 but is it 478 or 775?
And whats the FSB? If its not 400Mhz you can also Up the CPU(478=3ghz MAX) 775=3.4Ghz(40+)
Then the memory SHOULD be DDR?and 2 channel
Go buy 2x2(Not easy to find and a little more $ then 1x2 but its 4Gb!)
Then you can TRY VERY HARD to use CPUFSB to over clock.
And i know NOTHING about cards so...yeah
If you can get atleast a 3Ghz, 1gig ram, and a 128mb DirictX9 card you can run L4D/L4D2
Its a socket 478. I cant upgrade everything, I am not sure about the FSB on this dimension mobo lol.
Here is more info on it:
http://www.epinions.com/review/pr-Dell_Dimension_4600_D46RM_PC_Desktop/content_108956585604
Can you give me all the things I will need to make this decent? I resently pulled a 80gb caviar black, out of a external hdd(Western Digital), from goodwill , so I will have 3 hdds once the adapter comes in.
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Its a socket 478. I cant upgrade everything, I am not sure about the FSB on this dimension mobo lol.
Here is more info on it:
http://www.epinions.com/review/pr-Dell_Dimension_4600_D46RM_PC_Desktop/content_108956585604
Can you give me all the things I will need to make this decent? I resently pulled a 80gb caviar black, out of a external hdd(Western Digital), from goodwill , so I will have 3 hdds once the adapter comes in.
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What else do you want? Also what games will you get?
I think you should try AC2, Batman Arkham asylum, nfs shift, cod4/mw2 and battlefield which is fast even on old cards.
That cpu will hold you back.
Ex.
A C2D @ TXXX 2.4 is about 10X faster then a P4 @ 2.4
I wont be using this mainly for gaming, but I want to be able to play some 09' games(Sims 3 mainly, and maybe mwf2) on medium. The reason i have to upgrade this computer is because if I want to get all new parts and make a new computer my parents would most likely say no, because their mentality is, use what you have(not that defined but its there). So if I am buying parts for this, computer they probably will let me get them.
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I put this dell dimension 4600 mobo(pulled from the Dimension 4600 in my bigger tower case(Gateway Performance 1500) its specs are as follows:
P4 2.8ghz
521 ram(May be 1.5, or 2gb depends if I can get money)
GeForce 6800 GT OC
What could I run with that? This is my first computer that I can upgrade around and change things. What do you think it can run?
Also what games can it handle and what games cant it?
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NFS underground 2
NFS most wanted
GTA San Andreas
Tony Hawks Underground 2
Age Of Empires III (AOE 3)
SWAT 4
and all previous versions of those games...
I ran them on my old system:
P4 1.8GHZ ---- Now Core 2 Duo 6600
384MB of RAM ---- Now 4GB
Nvidia GF 2MX with 32mb of onboard memory, or was it GF 4MX... ---- NOW 8800GTS with 640mb of onboard mem, thats like 20times more!!
Okay guys, I have another problem. . .Its the stock dell fan. Its too loud, and I cant get cpu temps. .
Heres what I am currently running with the mother board.
-Some old atx case that is lighter than the previous one.
-Same P4 Processor
-2gb ram
-ati hd 4650 512mb
3 HDD's(80, 60, 40)
-450w power supply(Rhino)
Most of the new things I got off of craigslist cheaper then retail. The ram I got was for $30, the Graphics card for 50, and the power supply for free(generous guy). The case was given to me.
What can I do to lower the freaken fan noise? I cant seem to control it at all. Nothing works.
Just get a new fan there are many available i tend to use Thermaltake but anything is better than stock "you can generally see the db noise the fan creates in spec", while buying get some thermal compound too often a thing forgotten
I figure that XDA is full of tech heads, and they influence my choice on mobiles, so why not my choice of laptops
Narrowed it down to three:
1) HP/Compaq Mini 311 - 11.6" screen, 1.66GHz Atom N280 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$400 with Windows XP, 1GB DDR3 RAM, Wifi b/g, no Bluetooth)
2) ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen, 1.6GHz Dual-Core Atom N330 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$500 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, Bluetooth)
3) Acer 1410/1810 - 11.6" screen, 1.2GHz Dual-Core Celeron CULV SU2300 CPU + Integrated Intel GMA9400MHD GPU (~$430 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, No Bluetooth)
All have HDMI out, and feature 1366×768 resolution. HDD size not important to me.
You should probably list the prices and maybe specs of each to show everyone the price differences. It might make voting easier.
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You should probably list the prices and maybe specs of each to show everyone the price differences. It might make voting easier.
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thanks man, i changed my original post
I have had two Asus and would recommend them highly... Had the original Asus EEE PC and now am rocking the Asus 1005HA (ridiculous battery life). One thing, tho, I don't think any of the laptops you are looking at can be considered "netbooks", screen is too large (I think most netbooks can be classified as having a 10.1" screen or smaller)...
the RMA for manufactors had hp as highest and acer pretty high too
and Asus won along with toshiba
kinda match the issues I had with both hp and acer laptops breaking on me
I recently made up my mind to get the ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen! I liked all the reviews about it...
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I figure that XDA is full of tech heads, and they influence my choice on mobiles, so why not my choice of laptops
Narrowed it down to three:
1) HP/Compaq Mini 311 - 11.6" screen, 1.66GHz Atom N280 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$400 with Windows XP, 1GB DDR3 RAM, Wifi b/g, no Bluetooth)
2) ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen, 1.6GHz Dual-Core Atom N330 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$500 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, Bluetooth)
3) Acer 1410/1810 - 11.6" screen, 1.2GHz Dual-Core Celeron CULV SU2300 CPU + Integrated Intel GMA9400MHD GPU (~$430 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, No Bluetooth)
All have HDMI out, and feature 1366×768 resolution. HDD size not important to me.
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Of the choices you listed I would go for the ASUS 1201N. It is a bit expensive though as far as netbooks are concerned. (IMO) Amazon has it for $482.43 before tax / shipping.
I'd say for maximum performance, go for the Asus 1201N. Can't go wrong with the Atom 330 for cpu power and the Ion..i believe you can run some fairly decent games with that! Of course, battery will be a killer, so if you're planning on using it for long hauls, this might not be the best.
For balance of work and play the Compaq/HP Mini 11 isn't too bad, and for a little bit more you can upgrade the memory! A little bit easier on the battery, but the Ion is sort of a killer. However, like i said, it'll definitely do well with some games, and HD playback.
Sorry, Acers aren't my favorite..I've worked with many of my friends' Acer laptops, and I've had issues with upgrading the hardware. Also, Acer doesn't carry too much support with their older models for OS and driver support. However, I think the battery life might compensate for a few of its downsides, aka slower processor (though less battery consumption since it's ULV) and integrated graphics that don't tie it up too much.
If I were to make the purchase, I'd go for the Compaq/HP Mini 11. It has DDR3 ram support and that'll give you the most performance (DDR2 is almost at the brink of phaseout for desktops, and will follow suit for laptops), and buying a ram stick for it will only cost a bit more to get even more of an edge. While yes, it's only a single core processor, I'm using my Asus EEE 901 for two years now with it's single core N270, and since my SSD upgrade it's been a true performer on the go. I'd say the HDD would be the least common denominator for a netbook. Paired with an nVidia Ion chipset, you can see that multimedia will be a very good mobile experience!
Hopefully this has been helpful and not too much information to chew at once. But I wish you the best on your purchase!
I just purchased a HP Mini 311. I didn't have enough to upgrade it but i got the 1.6ghz 1gb setup with XP. I'll post some pictures and tell you how it is once it's here (tuesday)
Wait for a Alienware M11x if youre into games.... :d
But expensive...
anyways - havent read anything about the this Asus model, but theyre been good!!!
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
This articles above shows that you don't always get what you paid for when you buy the newest bleeding edge tech. It's about the the thermal throttling in the Snapdragon 800 series SoC's. The good ones the bad ones and it def hows a pattern of things being worse off during the beginning of a number in the in the "x" placement ----> 8x0.
Seems like big buyers are being experimented with a bit, tisk, tisk.
Now let's discuss
I would like to see this test redone with all SoCs undervolted as far as they will go.
I just want to add 2 things to this discussion:
1) Every mobile device will throttle at some point. This is the only way the SoC is able to manage its temperatures in a device that has zero active cooling. Either the user stops using the phone and it cools down or they continue using it and it will throttle.
2) It is the phone manufacturer's responsibility to design a phone and chassis that can support the thermal requirements of the SoC they have chosen for their device. If a phone over heats or the SoC is so throttled that it can never reach it's maximum clock speed (such as the Snapdragon 810 in the HTC M9) then the phone was designed poorly (based on the required specifications) and they should have chosen a lower power SoC.
I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.
Damn it Qua!comm instead of jamming reference cores in to chips get cracking optimizing drivers to get more performance out of existing products. The Adreno driver overhead is embrassing.
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I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.
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The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.
thermal throttle, whats that?? ive disabled thermal throttle on every nexus thats ever had it, since the n4 that's the n4, n5, and now n6. but the n6 is the best at not getting hot. as i cant get it over 82C ever.
The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
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The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.
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Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.
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The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I agree with the battery part... As for women I like a nice toned women.
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Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.
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your post conflicts by itself lol.
Also the 805 is a krait 400(or 500 can´t remember) architeture based on the a50 (the 800/801 are a15, and the 400 is based on the a7 with some variants based on the a9). Basicly the 805 runs a proprietary cpu architeture made after the a50 one, with the armv8 instruction set.
However the 810 runs the a51/53 instruction set, with no modifications, straight from ARM.and that´s something qualcomm didnt do for a long time,and as we can see the 810 WAS rushed to the market(the whole 64bit race)
Now for the thread, talking about the 800 series (since its what we have),it seems to have a good performance-heat ratio,however we feel it on our nexus due to poor thermal design, in the case of the n4/n5 the shield used to spread the heat don´t even touch the SOC lmao.
Talking qualcomm in general, i cant understand why they still have fails, having more than 15years of experience (10+ being with their own custom cores) i would expect them to not have these issues, but they still do.Also not going back much to the past, see the snap S4 gen 1 series(i.e the krait 200 variants, USA´S S3, Nexus 4 and such), they also have hw bugs(for instance, only the first core can go to fully deep sleep), thats something i would expect for a new player, not one with 15 years of experience(to make things even worse, qualcomm has been on the ARM market pretty much since the ARM arch/instruction set came out)
Also to OP, the 615,610,410,210 are all good socs, so the YXY pattern isn´t something here
However i must remember you guys, the one to blame here after all IS qualcomm, we dont have fully documentations and technical details or for most of you(including me) fully understanding of how a cpu is made / works but the a51 / 53 cores itself are fine, one player to see its the exynos 7220 on the s6, it runs a MALI gpu(which is from ARM,) and runs a53/51 architeture with a few modifications(not to the arch itself, but to the chip, make more thermal efficient, support samsung own branded chips, modems ,etc) and it runs better than the 810.
Also what made the 810 look worse is the drivers, adreno drivers sucks (sorry for the word, but this is more of a rant), my 4 year old MALI 400MP gpu haves about the same performance as my 2013´s adreno 330 (s3 exynos 4420 + mali 400mp vs nexus 5 snap 800 + adreno 330)
@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330
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@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330
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It really isnt in raw power or optmized games(gta sa and the newest NFS)but on the rest(even gta vice city) my s3 can keep up, and in fact due to better thermal design it can outstand the n5 after some time of playing
Nothing wrong with toned. But this craze of super thin is crazy. As for batteries if some one had come out with a replacement back with a huge battery inthat sloped to the camera that clipped in to replace the other I'd of been in heaven. My Nexus is in a heavy Spiegen case and I'm always amazed how skinny it is when I take it out to clean. I prefer it in the case. Feels better built
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Hello Xda-ians,does anyone know the difference between the processors of MI5 variants.As the processor of the 32gb variant is clocked at 1.8 ghz and rest of the two variants are clocked at 2.1 ghz i want to know that whether the 32gb variant processor is only underclocked or is there any difference in architecture also
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Hello Xda-ians,does anyone know the difference between the processors of MI5 variants.As the processor of the 32gb variant is clocked at 1.8 ghz and rest of the two variants are clocked at 2.1 ghz i want to know that whether the 32gb variant processor is only underclocked or is there any difference in architecture also
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They are technically the same chip, just lower quality and as such they are underclocked. (someone please correct me if that's wrong)
I've got the 32GB 1.8GHz variant and have found it to be extremely fast. With a custom kernel we might be able to squeeze a little more juice out of too. Really looking forward to that.
Pretty sure they're the exact same chip just underclocked. Correct ME if I'm wrong.
if they are lower-binned chips, besides being underclocked, they could have higher voltages to maintain stable work on each of frequency steps.
Sorry for pushing this old thread.
I searched the Internet but didnt found any information to this subject. Anyone knows more about it meanwhile?
I dont want to buy the 32gb version if it means worse battery life.
I can't tell you much in a very scientific manner. However, I bought this phone following a recommendation from a friend. He has the 32gb underclocked version whereas I got the 128gb on sale . We compare numbers often and with similar usage, at the end of the day I have maybe 10% more battery left.
Again, this is very unscientific - for example, I don't have the Facebook app installed, whereas he does, and the battery menu points that app as a heavy battery drain.
We do have similar soc and data/Wi-Fi usage, if that helps.
Thanks for your answer, there doesnt seem to be a large difference in sot between the two variants, im getting around 10 hours sot.
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Thanks for your answer, there doesnt seem to be a large difference in sot between the two variants, im getting around 10 hours sot.
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10h sot ?? which rom and which kernel ?? I usually get around 5-6h sot.