Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!
I use TomTom in the UK and find it acceptable. It can be slow to update when you make a turn but whether that is due to the video drivers, TomTom itself or the GPS receiver I couldn't say.
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Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!
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Yes GPS works well outside the US. In in Europe and it works great.
Havent used TomTom. but i have used almost every other GPS software there is. Do a search ...some good ones are Garmin xt, Destinator 7, pocket navigator 7..
Google maps.. i didnt like. too amateur and it does have maps to all countries.
DO NOT USE Google Navigator..it %^&*ed up my phone settings and was too slow.
I use Garmin XT. My mother has a garmin Nuvi unit, and its just as good as hers only the screen is slightly smaller, but it works great! GPS has a fix for me within 10 seconds everytime.
izmahoby said:
Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!
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MapKing 2007.
TomTom was the first and is still the best sat nav software.
Developed in Europe and works great.
Have used many others, including Garmin and Navman but TomTom is still the only one that has never sent me the wrong way, after 7 years of use.
http://www.compegps.com/
maybe this is something for you, the 1st software I know which is combining Vector maps AND bitmaps. Check the coverage of the Vektor maps, but for the bitmaps you can use ANY bitmaps.
I have tomtom and all available maps installed on my memory card. US, East and west Europe, Singapore, HongKong, Australia and smoething from Afrika.
The navgation so far was good on a small trip in europe, the other cards are just in case, but I will use it later this year in the US.
For Asia I am realy considering the above mentioned software, I did not have it yet, but it good a good report in a german WM magazin. With the bitmaps you cannot navigate like with Vector maps, but you see at at least where you are.
Best regards,
Claus
Nadavi just posted the info on the Polaris HTC GPS program. Of all that I tried, this is the best. Search it on this forum.
what about google maps. i have used it in a jam and thaught it was pretty good . and it is free. you do need a data plan , but in a pinch it's worth it
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what about google maps. i have used it in a jam and thaught it was pretty good . and it is free. you do need a data plan , but in a pinch it's worth it
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no voice navigation
I've tested Telenav, TomTom, and Mio Maps. Google Maps and Windows Live I really don't consider a "driving" GPS, so I wont comment on those.
Telenav wasn't great. Looks nice, but paying 9.99 extra a month to dl maps as your driving sucks. Especially as you're driving and the map just times-out.
TomTom is by far the EASIEST to install and use. Drop a CAB file in, and drag and drop the map folder on your SD card and you're ready to go. However, the maps folder is almost a gig. Super user friendly and you can find flash software to make your own POI's. I like modding TomTom, but it does move slow at times.
Mio Maps. By far the BEST looking and accuarte of all I've tried. Also easy to install on the Tilt. Maps can be chosen by state or country and loaded into the maps folder, so the maps don't take-up a lot of memory on your card. It's a european-type GPS, but its VERY nice. So far my favorite visually, though I still use TomTom for its simplicity to use.
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Would love a speaking GPS program for my Tilt.
Please "point me" in the "right" direction to get the tom tom navigator or some other really good speaking navigator for my Tilt.
Thank you millions.
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Please "point me" in the "right" direction to get the tom tom navigator or some other really good speaking navigator for my Tilt.
Thank you millions.
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Thanks a Million for reading our Forum policies. WAREZ are not supported here.
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uuuummm...what in the world is WAREZ?
I'm sorry for that but I am trying so hard to find good voice navigated GPS software for my Tilt and when you said that I flipped out and did't mean to post twice but this is literally the first forum I have ever registered for...and I'm not sure why that posted twice since I only posted once...
Actually, I don't care.
I read the "rules" and find in number 8 how you say temple very rude and disturbing to those of the Jewish faith.
Since I have never posted on a forum before, I feel like this was a terrible welcome to the world of forums and do not plan on visiting your forum anymore.
I know that there are forums out there who would appreciate more members and care more about how they write their rules.
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Actually, I don't care.
I read the "rules" and find in number 8 how you say temple very rude and disturbing to those of the Jewish faith.
Since I have never posted on a forum before, I feel like this was a terrible welcome to the world of forums and do not plan on visiting your forum anymore.
I know that there are forums out there who would appreciate more members and care more about how they write their rules.
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What? How could you take that as anything offensive to the Jewish faith. It mentions nothing specific. The only thing offensive in rule eight is the word "liberal." lol.
Warez are illegal copies of or "pirated" software.
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Nadavi just posted the info on the Polaris HTC GPS program. Of all that I tried, this is the best. Search it on this forum.
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Providing a link is always appreciated. You are meaning this, yes?
I like it, but if you don't have a map to hand it's not exactly handy. It was mostly interesting to see the satellite locations and following the location information. (If you're a geek, you'll love it).
I am using Garmin XT (nicked it off my Dad who no longer used it), but I don't exactly use it often. For the limited GPS assisted travelling I have done, it has been more than adequate. I'll echo what someone said i that it works quite well. Get a lock within 25 seconds of walking out my front door, sometimes before I leave.
Well, you can use the Mapking softwares. This is the one i use in Beijing (version R12.0 is dedicated to the Kaiser although i know that Mapking 2007 is also working). It's working well although it's not super fancy (like Tom Tom) and the maps are pretty old especially in a country where cities change every new moon.
I have been looking for GPS programs to use in China for a while and as far as i know there is not a lot of possibilities if you want to have English maps. If you can read Chinese then you have a lot of choice.
Among the programs i have checked is Gmap, a software that can import maps from GoogleMaps (like the Google Ditu ones for China) ... but it's a bit tricky as it requieres an IBM Java platform (it won't work otherwise). I couldn't make it work on my Kaiser but i might give it a try again.
Apart from that, Destinator 6.1 might also have something soon ... but i haven't really checked yet.
Anyway, I am also curious if someone has any ideas on that matter.
PS: guys, most of your answer are far from the initial topic. The original question was not "What do I have in my nice little Kaiser?" so please if you just want to tell what software you like to use, then create another post. Thanks.
Gps in the caribbean
So far the only gps software i can usefully use in the caribbean is google maps, i am guessing that tomtom and other software manufactures not interested in doing our maps yet.
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So far the only gps software i can usefully use in the caribbean is google maps, i am guessing that tomtom and other software manufactures not interested in doing our maps yet.
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I'm sure you googled "GPS MAPS CARIBBEAN" before you made your FIRST COMPLAINING POST HERE and found the link to FREE maps of Caribbean (http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/) which was the second highest rated link on Google. If not, you may find that not only can you use the maps for free, but you can CONTRIBUTE to their development. I trust that with your assistance, the Caribbean will be well mapped in no time.
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Weatheryoko will be pleased to hear that i have today ordered my LEGAL version of TomTom 6 - after trying the tomtom 5.21 (Cracked version) and the tomtom 6 (Cracked version) and various other nav systems(all Cracked), i have decided that tomtom are a good system to use. The reason for my trying these different versions is because i paid mercedes £1500 to have satnav fitted in a car i ordered from them and found it to be utter rubbish, besides not being portable between vehicles etc. Once fitted it's then obviously too late for refunds etc. As there isn't any option, i've found, to test these systems before purchase, it made sense to try the cracked versions.
As Weatheryoko is so anti-piracy i trust he will now hand back any owned property, to the indigenous population/native americans, that were "stolen" "pirated" from them by his forebears, and will campaign on their behalf for other such lands to be returned - or is it the usual - do as i say not as i do :wink:
Glad to hear it....
I'm glad to hear that your buying a legal version, and thanks for the "jabs". Just so you know, I'm an immigrant and I (nor my ancestors) were here when the lands were stolen from the Native Americans. We weren't even here during the last "land grab" of 1889. Believe me when I say this, I think is was shameless the way they were treated. Having lived in Oklahoma (which is Choctaw for "Red People" FYI), I know this story too well. Maybe this is what prompted me to donate funds to the American Indian College Fund. I would recommend that you get to know people first, before making rash judgements. Maybe that was the problem with the early American settlers? What do you think? Mate, if you want to throw stones in glass houses, do you want to talk about the Ireland or Scotland? We could also talk about slavery (which both your and my country had at one time) if you chose. The bottom line, neither country is clean. Atrocities know no political boundary. Darfur, Nazi Germany, Crusades, Bosnia, Cambodia... pick one. I can't change the past, but I can choose how I live in the present. If I see someone doing something wrong, I try to do something about it. I'm not perfect. I **** things up occassionally, but I learn, try to make things right and move on.
This isn't an attack on you, so please don't take it personally. However, reading your comments prompted me to respond. Since this thread is already way off topic, I won't comment any further. Bottom line, glad to see that you bought the legal version. Please encourage others to do so. I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.
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I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.
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Agreed, to expect someone to pay that much without testing it a bit first is a bit much imo.
You can see it in a shop but not just try driving down the street a bit which would give you a proper idea of what its like.
Weatheryoko - it wasn't meant as a personal attack i was just using irony as an example - agreed the world is probably never going to be perfect - but please don't judge people for using what is available for evaluation or other reasons - surely that is the greatest tool that the internet and forums such as this provide - btw tomtom is a good product imho and i took the opportunity only to evaluate the possibilities before parting with my ill gotten gains having been stung before :wink: Enough said, as you rightly stated this is way off topic - and we all have our own opinions, which is why the world is, as is. :roll:
well done ..but the tt6 version isn't compatable with tt6 on tomtom website yet,but i'm sure you will gloat at how well it works if it does work ,i'm waiting for some positives before i splash out this time
Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
I ordered mine from the guy that supplies me with all my desktop/laptops and all other it/comms paraphernalia - and as one of his best :wink: customers, hopefully he'll come up with the goods as soon as he has them. But he has been known to be notoriously slow at times - so i won't hold my breath - it's only an order and as i understand you can order from pc world business or, presumably, other retailers - unfortunately i don't have a delivery date as such, just a promise, but then again i'm in no hurry, it's only another toy to play with!
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Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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you can't it hasn't been released yet ..the only thing you can do is PRE-order a copy
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6
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andypa1 said:
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6
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yup they get you buy the short and curleys as teh software is free you only pay for the maps
All TomTom maps, voices etc. are coded to the individual TomTom software ID and are not interchangeable across TomTom users or TomTom versions, you need to buy everything all over again.
Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
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Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
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Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx
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Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx
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try here.
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewforum.php?f=38
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Daz please dont be a ****in muppet and DONT post warez!
I have had enough of people not thinking before posting pirated software. XDA Developers is a very valuable resource that can be closed down very quickly beacuse of pirated software, and thats something I dont ever want to see happen.
Dont get me wrong I use pirated software as much as the next person, but I dont go posting it on legit sites! Ejits like you are what get messsage boards closed down.
XDA DEV IS NOT A WAREZ BOARD SO DONT TREAT IT LIKE ONE!
RANT OVER!
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You want to take a chill pill, i only posted a link to another website, I have posted no illegal files in this post and nor does the link take you directly to a warez file download, XDA dev are not legally responsible for links to other websites. You should check the legal stuff before you RANT at me.
PS Dicussion of Cooking ROMs is acceptable on this site, so check your facts please.
I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.
Well, that comparison is 2004, but IGuidance v4 is still the best overall navigator in my estimation, for US/Canada. I like the fact that the whole map is now a single 1.2gig file, no map switching or loading. Works well on Kaiser. GPSpassion is the best GPS site to get straight talk about all things GPS.
There may be some truth in what you say but with major suppliers there are always those who like to knock the big corporations. (Just think of Microsoft)
Tomtom is talked about so much because it generally works well and from the site you link to:
· Superb User Interface
· Fast routing/re-routing
· Good Nav info
· 3D mode is nice on the highway
and those things happen to be crucial. Now where I would agree with you is on the point they make:
· Poor routes in the US likely due to TeleAtlas map data
This does not however apply so much in Europe where the maps are at least as good as others around.
Mike
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I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.
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Did you look at the date on that comparison?
It's MASSIVELY out of date. They talk about TomTom Navigator 3 for EU, 2.24 for US.
TomTom is now up to version 6 for all locations, and I can say from experience that all of the strikes listed against TomTom in that page for version 3/2.24 are no longer valid for 6. (Some were valid in 5).
Back a year ago, when I had a PalmOS device, there were fewer choices:
TomTom
Delorme Street Atlas Handheld
Mapopolis
Garmin GPS 10
I've always liked Garmin, but unfortunately they released the PalmOS version for non-Garmin-sourced PDAs a month after I bought a BT GPS receiver and Garmin will only sell their software bundled with a receiver.
Delorme SAHH is the only way to get topo maps on a handheld. Good for hiking/geocaching, SLOW for anything else. Awful UI on handheld too.
Mapopolis - Cheap, fast, decent UI
TomTom - Fast, great UI, awful map data that was pre-cut with V5.
I tried a less-than-legit version of V6 and will be ordering the full legit version. The map data in V6 is MUCH better than V5 and is not pre-cut allowing for interstate routing. The UI is great, it's *FAST*, and the map data is excellent now.
I realize there are other choices for Windows Mobile than what I had with PalmOS, but TomTom works very well for me.
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Well, that comparison is 2004, but IGuidance v4 is still the best overall navigator in my estimation, for US/Canada. I like the fact that the whole map is now a single 1.2gig file, no map switching or loading. Works well on Kaiser. GPSpassion is the best GPS site to get straight talk about all things GPS.
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Is that what you're using now on the TyTN II?
swamp2 said:
I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.
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Are you going to post this in every forum websites? You posted the same info over at Hofo also. I think you are just advertising your program. I will still use Tomtom no matter what.
I have been using TomTom since v5 came out - originally I had a copied version, when v6 came out, I decided that I found it useful enough to buy.
I kind of regret that decision.
I see no difference between the (UK) v5 and v6 maps. In fact, I am sure there are errors in v6 that were not there in v5.
A bunch of these are inexcusable. Things that have not changed in 20 years are wrong.
The main reason I bought it was to get access to the Traffic, but that is the worst feature of all. I have to turn it off or be VERY careful about following it's advice as it usually makes things worse not better.
For example, if it thinks the motorway I am on is congested, it will route me off onto an A road that it has no traffic data for. This road is usually worse than the congested motorway. Even if it is clear, it does not seem to account for intersections, assuming you can blaze through them at max speed.
What I think is really required is some system where the map can be patched. Users should be able to suggest patches to the map - maybe some kind of 3rd party app. Also if road "weighting" (or maybe just tweak the "speed limit" on a road to weight it) could be implimented in lieu of traffic data then that would probably help.
Also, I reckon there has to be some legal mileage in forcing satnav companies to permit you buying software only. If I have paid for western europe telenav maps when I bought TomTom, why should I pay for the same thing again if I use a competitor's satnav product that also uses telenav?
The great news is that there are many choices. I own CoPilot, Destinator, Delorme, Mapopolis, PMN, iGuidance, and TomTom. TomTom's a very good app, maybe better in EU. I believe that NavTec's maps are better than TelAtlas in the US, but that's my opinion from about 12 years of use.
I like to play with these things and I don't hold any of them as sacred. For now I prefer iGuidance v4 on my Kaiser. I like the NavTec Database, I like defining hard keys for 3D/2D, North-Up etc. It's got 3 levels of 3D presentation, TONS of good POI data, map dragging/zooming, and a GUI that works really well.
I'd really like to give Garmin a go, if I could use their PPC software on the Kaiser without their stupid software lock to their bundled BT receiver.
What I look for now is the best GUI and a contiguous map, screw maploaders and piece meal map pruchases and management. The devices have the memory and 1-2 gig dedicated to this valuable function is fine with me. Map data quality today is probably a wash between TelAtlas and NavTec.
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Are you going to post this in every forum websites? You posted the same info over at Hofo also. I think you are just advertising your program. I will still use Tomtom no matter what.
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Might as well post it over @ the cingular forum to complete the cycle, eh?
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OK, sorry about the out of date referral. A big f-up there! I thought it looked suspiciously old but missed the tiny font with the date. The program version numbers should have been a give away as well. There are more up to date reviews of TT6 and iGuidance on some other pages and on their forums.
The points were simple and others are clearly agreeing with me here:
-TT is getting a lot of hype. I have not used it personally but I find it interesting how much folks are focused (to near obsession with it)
-There are many alternatives, and many are probably significantly better than TT in many areas
@RemE - Thanks for the unbiased input from someone who has used a ton of programs!
@avega and sherpa: I find it insulting that anyone thinks I am advertising or promoting a product I own or like. I was simply trying to help and to educate folks a bit about the options. So sorry (not) for those of you that had to read through my "useless" post on 2 forums. I just wanted to share some information - ugh...
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OK, sorry about the out of date referral. A big f-up there! I thought it looked suspiciously old but missed the tiny font with the date. The program version numbers should have been a give away as well. There are more up to date reviews of TT6 and iGuidance on some other pages and on their forums.
The points were simple and others are clearly agreeing with me here:
-TT is getting a lot of hype. I have not used it personally but I find it interesting how much folks are focused (to near obsession with it)
-There are many alternatives, and many are probably significantly better than TT in many areas
@RemE - Thanks for the unbiased input from someone who has used a ton of programs!
@avega and sherpa: I find it insulting that anyone thinks I am advertising or promoting a product I own or like. I was simply trying to help and to educate folks a bit about the options. So sorry (not) for those of you that had to read through my "useless" post on 2 forums. I just wanted to share some information - ugh...
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C'mon you stated YOU havent even used TT for yourself and youre bashing it. Give me a break. This whole time Im reading through all your posts saying TT this TT that, and youve never even used it?!? I understand all the hype etc about TT is blown out of proportion, but man thats really messed up bashing on something youve never even tried. I personally dont push onto people hey you gotta get TT nothing else is better, I never said that & I dont think I will. I am aware there are other software out there that may be better or not. My point in other threads has been simply, "Hey we CAn use other software on the 8925 w/o the use of TeleNav jumpstart & if TT was the software to use @ that moment, so be it."
Wrong, wrong, wrong
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C'mon you stated YOU havent even used TT for yourself and youre bashing it. Give me a break. This whole time Im reading through all your posts saying TT this TT that, and youve never even used it?!? I understand all the hype etc about TT is blown out of proportion, but man thats really messed up bashing on something youve never even tried. I personally dont push onto people hey you gotta get TT nothing else is better, I never said that & I dont think I will. I am aware there are other software out there that may be better or not. My point in other threads has been simply, "Hey we CAn use other software on the 8925 w/o the use of TeleNav jumpstart & if TT was the software to use @ that moment, so be it."
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Nothing wrong with honesty, I have never used it, period. I still don't understand the hype. Again I think some of us are victims of their cute little TV marketing ads. Can you please point out one negative or "bashing" statement I made about TT? Didn't think so.
Okay guys, we have made our points and I think if people read through the posts a pretty fair overall picture will emerge. That appears to be:
Tomtom is fine and generally works well, but there is a range of alternatives some of which may be superior (depending on your needs/preferences) to Tomtom so don't overlook these if you are buying GPS software. Part of the hype for tomtom on the Kaiser forums stems of course from the fact that the Kaiser has been bundled (for some folk) with tomtom software. Not surprising then that we're all talking about it.
Mike
My take
I personally think TomTom sucks (at least in my experience), and here's why:
- Their support is TERRIBLE. Slow to respond, usually off the mark.
- Their maps are horribly inaccurate (for me, in the midwest US).
It took multiple calls and emails to get them to help me with the RETAIL BOX (not and OEM bundle) version I bought first with my Advantage and now with the Kaiser. On the advantage, they tried to tell me I couldn't run all from the Microdrive. I later discovered I could by installing to an SD card first, and then manually copying it over.
Their interface is SLOW, and so many addresses aren't found (on supposedly the latest US Map, according to their TomTom home utility).
Just today, Garmin announced their Mobile XT software on a MicroSD card, and this is significant because previous versions of Garmin Mobile XT required the use of Garmin's GPS hardware, even if you had an integrated GPS. Now, you can FINALLY use Garmin's software with your own GPS, and I couldn't be happier.
In my personal opinion, Garmin's PDA software (and especially their all-in-one units) are VASTLY SUPERIOR to TomTom, at least here in the US, based on my own extensive experiences.
-Rob
rtsrob,
That could be true, at least in US Because for me, TomTom is still the best and I live in Europe. And have no problem with the interface/speed/etc.
What BS! I just don't get Garmin, why the microSD? Last thing I want to do is pull memory cards just to navigate. I use a 6gig now and it's staying put in my device, many apps need the card so it makes no sense to use a seperate card. This is why I didn't bother with iGo same issue, sheesh.
Regarding support, iGuidance doesn't do much either, when we flashed WM6 to Hermes, iNAV could not/would not believe my detailed description about WM6pro being a standard PPC OS, they kept saying "sorry we don't support WM6, it's only for smart phones, they are not touch screens". Fortunately the S/W just works and GPSpassion has some very sharp folks that have tweaks that can be applied to iGuidance to make some changes.
RemE said:
What BS! I just don't get Garmin, why the microSD?
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Two words: "Copy Protection"
Richard
Like I said, BS, there's plenty of software only copy protection schemes that don't lock the product to a memory card or BT dongle...
RemE said:
Like I said, BS, there's plenty of software only copy protection schemes that don't lock the product to a memory card or BT dongle...
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You asked why, not for an opinion on whether copy protection is "BS" or not. I bought Mapopolis in part due to their lack of copy protection. Note the existence of keygens for TomTom and not for Garmin and consider whether that's "BS" or not - particularly from the perspective of the software vendor.
Richard
Obviously you're right, that's why TomTom is a bit player, Right? All that rampant piracy. I don't copy software, I like to believe that most people will pay a fair price for a good product, seems to be working for most vendors. I'd love to try Garmin's and iGo's products, but never will till they take a look outside their shells.
Point taken, nuff said.
Free is what I'm looking for....
I hear windows live search and google map is good... is this true?
Anything more I havn't heard of
I think those are the only truly free ones. Please correct me if I am wrong.
III_Bourne_III said:
Free is what I'm looking for....
I hear windows live search and google map is good... is this true?
Anything more I havn't heard of
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I was able to get windows live search mobile to work just fine with at&t tilt. and I use it often for getting me around places I dont know. It's free and I love it.
go to this website, there is ALOT of free GPS software that you can look at and compare.
http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html
hate to be "that guy", but if we arent talking about free, tomtom navigator 6 is where its at
I have a response from TomTom's technical support regarding the Touch Diamond 2.
"I have spoken to our 2nd line technical team about any solutions to your query. Unfortunately, they have stated that regardless of what version you are using, HOME will still give the same message as your device is not supported. I apologize for any inconvenience.
With Kind Regards
The TomTom Customer Care Team"
This was in response to my query regarding transferring my services (Traffic etc) over from my old Touch Pro to the Touch Diamond 2.
What this effectively means is that if you run TomTom Navigator on your TD2, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE ANY TOMTOM SERVICES, as you cannot move these services over to your new phone. TomTom Home will just give you an error.
If you are used to their Traffic service, you will have to just live without it for the time being.
I will ask them what their timescale is for supporting HTC's current flagship phone, but I expect they'll just say they have no plans.
My response to TomTom:
"Windows Mobile is one of the top selling phone operating systems. HTC are the world's biggest manufacturer of Windows Mobile phones. The "Topaz", or Touch Diamond 2, is currently HTC's flagship phone.
Can you please confirm that you will not, and have no intention of, supporting the flagship phone of the biggest manufacturer of one of the top selling phone operating systems in the world?
Can you also confirm that you are no longer interested in collecting my subscription fees for any TomTom services, as they cannot be used on the Topaz?
Finally, can you please recommend an alternative SatNav software vendor who does support the Topaz, as it'll save myself and all the other Topaz users a bit of time moving away from TomTom and onto a better-supported product?
Perhaps CoPilot, Navigon, Igo, or Garmin? They seem like a helpful bunch :O)"
Hey Jim,
With you all the way on this one (as a long time HTC and Tomtom user), and if you dared to use that level of sarcasm with them, it would be nothing less than they deserved! Go you!
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My response to TomTom:
"Windows Mobile is one of the top selling phone operating systems. HTC are the world's biggest manufacturer of Windows Mobile phones. The "Topaz", or Touch Diamond 2, is currently HTC's flagship phone.
Can you please confirm that you will not, and have no intention of, supporting the flagship phone of the biggest manufacturer of one of the top selling phone operating systems in the world?
Can you also confirm that you are no longer interested in collecting my subscription fees for any TomTom services, as they cannot be used on the Topaz?
Finally, can you please recommend an alternative SatNav software vendor who does support the Topaz, as it'll save myself and all the other Topaz users a bit of time moving away from TomTom and onto a better-supported product?
Perhaps CoPilot, Navigon, Igo, or Garmin? They seem like a helpful bunch :O)"
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You actually sent that? Were you expecting your tantrum to get results? I think you should read "How to win friends and influence people".
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You actually sent that? Were you expecting your tantrum to get results? I think you should read "How to win friends and influence people".
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Does ANYONE expect results from TomTom support?
Far from it. After being left in the lurch by TomTom's woeful support, I simply vented my spleen in response. Of course I don't expect a response. Ever. To anything. After effectively chucking £20-odd down the toilet for a year's subscription to Traffic which I now can't use, I think a little sarcasm blown across their bows is small recompense.
I'm sure you have far more self-restraint than me though, so you're welcome to see if you can get any kind of response out of them.
TomTom customer service has been nothing but terrible every time I have used it. You have to really fight to get anywhere. Shame as the product is good....
R
TT sucks... use iGO (800x480) support. Beautiful !
TomTom is a joke .
If you change device you have to relicense etc . Co-pilot you can move over very simply . I suggest a move to a better supplier , like Copilot etc.
At least your investment is safer when you upgrade your device etc. No 3D graphics blah blah blah .
For Tzeunis
Hello,
For Tzeunis can you give me your Sys.txt and your data.zip branding.zip for IGO 8.
thanks in advance.
@+++
Tzeunis said:
TT sucks... use iGO (800x480) support. Beautiful !
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Seconded - iGo8 is a far superiour product tomtom. I stopped using tomtom ages back when I saw what the competition offered!
dangel said:
Seconded - iGo8 is a far superiour product tomtom. I stopped using tomtom ages back when I saw what the competition offered!
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Yes, this traffic **** did it: I also stepped over to igo8. So much better than TomTom. I even managed to get TMC work with my headset and beemerTPPC's software.
my TT can not connect to gps sat
every thing works exept connecting
all the mony i have spend on getting al the maps i needed, it was all for nothing.
i realy hate TT now... and i never buy any produckt from them again
il go try igo 8
capsonus lijders bey bey Tom Tom...
I know this is not the thread to ask, But with iGo8, is there ANY possibility that I can strip down the maps? as I only need 1 country, not whole Europe.
Thanks.
jeutie said:
I know this is not the thread to ask, But with iGo8, is there ANY possibility that I can strip down the maps? as I only need 1 country, not whole Europe.
Thanks.
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Off course, just put the country in you want and remove all others.
pietrucci said:
Off course, just put the country in you want and remove all others.
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Oh great! thanks for the reply!!
Watch out: There is a file basemap.fbl in the maps-folder. This is required for iGo to work, together with the country-maps you need. But you can safely omit spain.fbl, germany.fbl etc. if you don't travel to these countries.
Have fun!
is it possible to copy iGo to a bigger SD or do you have to use the 2/4 Gig card (and copy you stuff if you just want to use one sd card)
does screen rotate work out of the box?
dnmo said:
is it possible to copy iGo to a bigger SD or do you have to use the 2/4 Gig card (and copy you stuff if you just want to use one sd card)
does screen rotate work out of the box?
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I use a 8 Gb card
Does anybody know of a free Maps app that has a driving mode and shows traffic & POI while you drive? Similar to Google Maps 6.
Have you tried Nokia maps, they have downloadable maps which is nice for offline navigation
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Have you tried Nokia maps, they have downloadable maps which is nice for offline navigation
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Are you talking about HERE Maps (which Nokia owns)? Yes, I actually tried that yesterday, but it doesn't show POIs. Or if it does, I couldn't find out where to enable it.
I love the new driving mode in Google Maps, but I want to see multiple categories of POIs as I drive, not just the ones I search for. For example, I want to see all gas stations and restaurants at the same time, not just one or the other.
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Are you talking about HERE Maps (which Nokia owns)? Yes, I actually tried that yesterday, but it doesn't show POIs. Or if it does, I couldn't find out where to enable it.
I love the new driving mode in Google Maps, but I want to see multiple categories of POIs as I drive, not just the ones I search for. For example, I want to see all gas stations and restaurants at the same time, not just one or the other.
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Yes..ah ok, my only experience with that kind of feature was the co-pilot paid app, but I haven't even used that since I discovered here maps. I frequently don't have cell service while driving from place to place in rural CA for work.
Just FYI
"Here" is not owned by Nokia anymore. It's owned by a consortium of Audi, Bmw and Mercedes.
Droidphilev said:
Just FYI
"Here" is not owned by Nokia anymore. It's owned by a consortium of Audi, Bmw and Mercedes.
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Holy cow, 3 billion dollars was the price they sold it for!
chapelfreak said:
Holy cow, 3 billion dollars was the price they sold it for!
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Well... since there are still some Microsoft guys "leading" Nokia that money will be gone to bad decisions in no time!