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Free GPS Mapping Software?

Hi,
I'm looking for a free GPS mapping Software. I _don't_ need navigation etc.
I simply want to upload a jpg or bmp, calibrate the map and see where I am.
TFYH

A couple that spring to mind are OziExplorerCE which is shareware but will do what you wish, see http://www.oziexplorer.com and GPSDash is another, although it's not free it's relatively inexpensive, see http://gpsdash.com/ .

griffog said:
A couple that spring to mind are OziExplorerCE which is shareware but will do what you wish, see http://www.oziexplorer.com and GPSDash is another, although it's not free it's relatively inexpensive, see http://gpsdash.com/ .
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Thanks for your answer.
IIRC OziExplorerCE can't be used without the desktop Software. And the last time I checked it was rather expensive.
Another problem I have with free software is that I don't have/want a credit card. Even if I had one, I wouldn't use it in the internet.
PayPal might be an option though.
I'd say ~10 Euro would be acceptable.

plasma said:
griffog said:
A couple that spring to mind are OziExplorerCE which is shareware but will do what you wish, see http://www.oziexplorer.com and GPSDash is another, although it's not free it's relatively inexpensive, see http://gpsdash.com/ .
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Thanks for your answer.
IIRC OziExplorerCE can't be used without the desktop Software. And the last time I checked it was rather expensive.
Another problem I have with free software is that I don't have/want a credit card. Even if I had one, I wouldn't use it in the internet.
PayPal might be an option though.
I'd say ~10 Euro would be acceptable.
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Try Mapopolis it's easy to use. It is Shareware.

Mapopolis is not shareware, it is commercial software which has a time limited demo map facility. It cannot utilise your own scanned maps as per the OP's request
Good software though

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griffog said:
Mapopolis is not shareware, it is commercial software which has a time limited demo map facility. It cannot utilise your own scanned maps as per the OP's request
Good software though
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My bad.

TOMTOM 6 ON XDA11I - LEGAL VERSION

Weatheryoko will be pleased to hear that i have today ordered my LEGAL version of TomTom 6 - after trying the tomtom 5.21 (Cracked version) and the tomtom 6 (Cracked version) and various other nav systems(all Cracked), i have decided that tomtom are a good system to use. The reason for my trying these different versions is because i paid mercedes £1500 to have satnav fitted in a car i ordered from them and found it to be utter rubbish, besides not being portable between vehicles etc. Once fitted it's then obviously too late for refunds etc. As there isn't any option, i've found, to test these systems before purchase, it made sense to try the cracked versions.
As Weatheryoko is so anti-piracy i trust he will now hand back any owned property, to the indigenous population/native americans, that were "stolen" "pirated" from them by his forebears, and will campaign on their behalf for other such lands to be returned - or is it the usual - do as i say not as i do :wink:

Glad to hear it....
I'm glad to hear that your buying a legal version, and thanks for the "jabs". Just so you know, I'm an immigrant and I (nor my ancestors) were here when the lands were stolen from the Native Americans. We weren't even here during the last "land grab" of 1889. Believe me when I say this, I think is was shameless the way they were treated. Having lived in Oklahoma (which is Choctaw for "Red People" FYI), I know this story too well. Maybe this is what prompted me to donate funds to the American Indian College Fund. I would recommend that you get to know people first, before making rash judgements. Maybe that was the problem with the early American settlers? What do you think? Mate, if you want to throw stones in glass houses, do you want to talk about the Ireland or Scotland? We could also talk about slavery (which both your and my country had at one time) if you chose. The bottom line, neither country is clean. Atrocities know no political boundary. Darfur, Nazi Germany, Crusades, Bosnia, Cambodia... pick one. I can't change the past, but I can choose how I live in the present. If I see someone doing something wrong, I try to do something about it. I'm not perfect. I **** things up occassionally, but I learn, try to make things right and move on.
This isn't an attack on you, so please don't take it personally. However, reading your comments prompted me to respond. Since this thread is already way off topic, I won't comment any further. Bottom line, glad to see that you bought the legal version. Please encourage others to do so. I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.

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I do wish though that TomTom would provide an "evaluation version" so people could evaluate it for while before purchasing. This may cut down on the wide-spread use of cracked versions.
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Agreed, to expect someone to pay that much without testing it a bit first is a bit much imo.
You can see it in a shop but not just try driving down the street a bit which would give you a proper idea of what its like.

Weatheryoko - it wasn't meant as a personal attack i was just using irony as an example - agreed the world is probably never going to be perfect - but please don't judge people for using what is available for evaluation or other reasons - surely that is the greatest tool that the internet and forums such as this provide - btw tomtom is a good product imho and i took the opportunity only to evaluate the possibilities before parting with my ill gotten gains having been stung before :wink: Enough said, as you rightly stated this is way off topic - and we all have our own opinions, which is why the world is, as is. :roll:

well done ..but the tt6 version isn't compatable with tt6 on tomtom website yet,but i'm sure you will gloat at how well it works if it does work ,i'm waiting for some positives before i splash out this time

Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(

I ordered mine from the guy that supplies me with all my desktop/laptops and all other it/comms paraphernalia - and as one of his best :wink: customers, hopefully he'll come up with the goods as soon as he has them. But he has been known to be notoriously slow at times - so i won't hold my breath - it's only an order and as i understand you can order from pc world business or, presumably, other retailers - unfortunately i don't have a delivery date as such, just a promise, but then again i'm in no hurry, it's only another toy to play with!

RommelAcc said:
Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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you can't it hasn't been released yet ..the only thing you can do is PRE-order a copy

I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.

andypa1 said:
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6

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andypa1 said:
I have tomtom 6 with a map of guam a 20 mile island in india lol.
How come it cant find my great britain map that worked from version 5?
Works well but it sucks i have to rotate the screen before going into tomtom.
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I've been informed that TT5/5.21 maps are not compatible with TT6
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yup they get you buy the short and curleys as teh software is free you only pay for the maps

All TomTom maps, voices etc. are coded to the individual TomTom software ID and are not interchangeable across TomTom users or TomTom versions, you need to buy everything all over again.

Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
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Can anyone tell me where the TomTom6 for PocketPC can be ordered. I've checked the Tomtom website and the only 6.x version I can order is for the various GO devices... but no PDA so far :-(
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TheShowStopper said:
Got your TT6 yet dude? I have it up and running on 2 PDA's right here and i've put it on my mates XDA Mini IIs to. Not the legit version you undertand!
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Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx

aman22k said:
Hi,
could you please tell me where can I download tt6 for my xda11i along with uk maps.
I do have tt5installed in my xda but cannot get it to work with my bluetooth gps. maybe tt6 would work. many thx
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Removed By Admin. So see above post link there

DAz999 said:
try here.
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewforum.php?f=38
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Daz please dont be a ****in muppet and DONT post warez!
I have had enough of people not thinking before posting pirated software. XDA Developers is a very valuable resource that can be closed down very quickly beacuse of pirated software, and thats something I dont ever want to see happen.
Dont get me wrong I use pirated software as much as the next person, but I dont go posting it on legit sites! Ejits like you are what get messsage boards closed down.
XDA DEV IS NOT A WAREZ BOARD SO DONT TREAT IT LIKE ONE!
RANT OVER!

Legal
You want to take a chill pill, i only posted a link to another website, I have posted no illegal files in this post and nor does the link take you directly to a warez file download, XDA dev are not legally responsible for links to other websites. You should check the legal stuff before you RANT at me.
PS Dicussion of Cooking ROMs is acceptable on this site, so check your facts please.

TomTom this, TomTom that, ugh

I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.

Well, that comparison is 2004, but IGuidance v4 is still the best overall navigator in my estimation, for US/Canada. I like the fact that the whole map is now a single 1.2gig file, no map switching or loading. Works well on Kaiser. GPSpassion is the best GPS site to get straight talk about all things GPS.

There may be some truth in what you say but with major suppliers there are always those who like to knock the big corporations. (Just think of Microsoft)
Tomtom is talked about so much because it generally works well and from the site you link to:
· Superb User Interface
· Fast routing/re-routing
· Good Nav info
· 3D mode is nice on the highway
and those things happen to be crucial. Now where I would agree with you is on the point they make:
· Poor routes in the US likely due to TeleAtlas map data
This does not however apply so much in Europe where the maps are at least as good as others around.
Mike

swamp2 said:
I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.
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Did you look at the date on that comparison?
It's MASSIVELY out of date. They talk about TomTom Navigator 3 for EU, 2.24 for US.
TomTom is now up to version 6 for all locations, and I can say from experience that all of the strikes listed against TomTom in that page for version 3/2.24 are no longer valid for 6. (Some were valid in 5).
Back a year ago, when I had a PalmOS device, there were fewer choices:
TomTom
Delorme Street Atlas Handheld
Mapopolis
Garmin GPS 10
I've always liked Garmin, but unfortunately they released the PalmOS version for non-Garmin-sourced PDAs a month after I bought a BT GPS receiver and Garmin will only sell their software bundled with a receiver.
Delorme SAHH is the only way to get topo maps on a handheld. Good for hiking/geocaching, SLOW for anything else. Awful UI on handheld too.
Mapopolis - Cheap, fast, decent UI
TomTom - Fast, great UI, awful map data that was pre-cut with V5.
I tried a less-than-legit version of V6 and will be ordering the full legit version. The map data in V6 is MUCH better than V5 and is not pre-cut allowing for interstate routing. The UI is great, it's *FAST*, and the map data is excellent now.
I realize there are other choices for Windows Mobile than what I had with PalmOS, but TomTom works very well for me.

RemE said:
Well, that comparison is 2004, but IGuidance v4 is still the best overall navigator in my estimation, for US/Canada. I like the fact that the whole map is now a single 1.2gig file, no map switching or loading. Works well on Kaiser. GPSpassion is the best GPS site to get straight talk about all things GPS.
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Is that what you're using now on the TyTN II?

swamp2 said:
I am not so sure what all the hype about TomTom is, TomTom this and TomTom that, ugh. Could many of us be "victims" of TT's strong US advertising effort? I have been using GPS on Windows Mobile for years with my old school HTC pda2K (w/ external BT GPS). Sure I am going to get an 8925 ASAP and WAS concerned about it being locked down to some lame monthly fee BS for GPS. That tactic would certainly have been short lived thanks to the folks here at xda-developers. However on point.... have a look here ( http://www.gpspassion.com ) if you are really interested in the best GPS software. I have been using this site for some time for all the dirt, good info and comparisons on GPS hardware and especially software.
This link ( http://www.gpspassion.com/en/software/NavOverview.htm ) specfically shows their comparison (quite non-commercial, thorough and unbiased, IMO) among the major GPS software providers and TT ranks pretty low. My choice back in the day was PrymeNav and I'll likely get IGuidance as soon as I get my device.
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Are you going to post this in every forum websites? You posted the same info over at Hofo also. I think you are just advertising your program. I will still use Tomtom no matter what.

I have been using TomTom since v5 came out - originally I had a copied version, when v6 came out, I decided that I found it useful enough to buy.
I kind of regret that decision.
I see no difference between the (UK) v5 and v6 maps. In fact, I am sure there are errors in v6 that were not there in v5.
A bunch of these are inexcusable. Things that have not changed in 20 years are wrong.
The main reason I bought it was to get access to the Traffic, but that is the worst feature of all. I have to turn it off or be VERY careful about following it's advice as it usually makes things worse not better.
For example, if it thinks the motorway I am on is congested, it will route me off onto an A road that it has no traffic data for. This road is usually worse than the congested motorway. Even if it is clear, it does not seem to account for intersections, assuming you can blaze through them at max speed.
What I think is really required is some system where the map can be patched. Users should be able to suggest patches to the map - maybe some kind of 3rd party app. Also if road "weighting" (or maybe just tweak the "speed limit" on a road to weight it) could be implimented in lieu of traffic data then that would probably help.
Also, I reckon there has to be some legal mileage in forcing satnav companies to permit you buying software only. If I have paid for western europe telenav maps when I bought TomTom, why should I pay for the same thing again if I use a competitor's satnav product that also uses telenav?

The great news is that there are many choices. I own CoPilot, Destinator, Delorme, Mapopolis, PMN, iGuidance, and TomTom. TomTom's a very good app, maybe better in EU. I believe that NavTec's maps are better than TelAtlas in the US, but that's my opinion from about 12 years of use.
I like to play with these things and I don't hold any of them as sacred. For now I prefer iGuidance v4 on my Kaiser. I like the NavTec Database, I like defining hard keys for 3D/2D, North-Up etc. It's got 3 levels of 3D presentation, TONS of good POI data, map dragging/zooming, and a GUI that works really well.
I'd really like to give Garmin a go, if I could use their PPC software on the Kaiser without their stupid software lock to their bundled BT receiver.
What I look for now is the best GUI and a contiguous map, screw maploaders and piece meal map pruchases and management. The devices have the memory and 1-2 gig dedicated to this valuable function is fine with me. Map data quality today is probably a wash between TelAtlas and NavTec.

sherpa said:
Are you going to post this in every forum websites? You posted the same info over at Hofo also. I think you are just advertising your program. I will still use Tomtom no matter what.
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Might as well post it over @ the cingular forum to complete the cycle, eh?

Ugh
OK, sorry about the out of date referral. A big f-up there! I thought it looked suspiciously old but missed the tiny font with the date. The program version numbers should have been a give away as well. There are more up to date reviews of TT6 and iGuidance on some other pages and on their forums.
The points were simple and others are clearly agreeing with me here:
-TT is getting a lot of hype. I have not used it personally but I find it interesting how much folks are focused (to near obsession with it)
-There are many alternatives, and many are probably significantly better than TT in many areas
@RemE - Thanks for the unbiased input from someone who has used a ton of programs!
@avega and sherpa: I find it insulting that anyone thinks I am advertising or promoting a product I own or like. I was simply trying to help and to educate folks a bit about the options. So sorry (not) for those of you that had to read through my "useless" post on 2 forums. I just wanted to share some information - ugh...

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OK, sorry about the out of date referral. A big f-up there! I thought it looked suspiciously old but missed the tiny font with the date. The program version numbers should have been a give away as well. There are more up to date reviews of TT6 and iGuidance on some other pages and on their forums.
The points were simple and others are clearly agreeing with me here:
-TT is getting a lot of hype. I have not used it personally but I find it interesting how much folks are focused (to near obsession with it)
-There are many alternatives, and many are probably significantly better than TT in many areas
@RemE - Thanks for the unbiased input from someone who has used a ton of programs!
@avega and sherpa: I find it insulting that anyone thinks I am advertising or promoting a product I own or like. I was simply trying to help and to educate folks a bit about the options. So sorry (not) for those of you that had to read through my "useless" post on 2 forums. I just wanted to share some information - ugh...
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C'mon you stated YOU havent even used TT for yourself and youre bashing it. Give me a break. This whole time Im reading through all your posts saying TT this TT that, and youve never even used it?!? I understand all the hype etc about TT is blown out of proportion, but man thats really messed up bashing on something youve never even tried. I personally dont push onto people hey you gotta get TT nothing else is better, I never said that & I dont think I will. I am aware there are other software out there that may be better or not. My point in other threads has been simply, "Hey we CAn use other software on the 8925 w/o the use of TeleNav jumpstart & if TT was the software to use @ that moment, so be it."

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C'mon you stated YOU havent even used TT for yourself and youre bashing it. Give me a break. This whole time Im reading through all your posts saying TT this TT that, and youve never even used it?!? I understand all the hype etc about TT is blown out of proportion, but man thats really messed up bashing on something youve never even tried. I personally dont push onto people hey you gotta get TT nothing else is better, I never said that & I dont think I will. I am aware there are other software out there that may be better or not. My point in other threads has been simply, "Hey we CAn use other software on the 8925 w/o the use of TeleNav jumpstart & if TT was the software to use @ that moment, so be it."
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Nothing wrong with honesty, I have never used it, period. I still don't understand the hype. Again I think some of us are victims of their cute little TV marketing ads. Can you please point out one negative or "bashing" statement I made about TT? Didn't think so.

Okay guys, we have made our points and I think if people read through the posts a pretty fair overall picture will emerge. That appears to be:
Tomtom is fine and generally works well, but there is a range of alternatives some of which may be superior (depending on your needs/preferences) to Tomtom so don't overlook these if you are buying GPS software. Part of the hype for tomtom on the Kaiser forums stems of course from the fact that the Kaiser has been bundled (for some folk) with tomtom software. Not surprising then that we're all talking about it.
Mike

My take
I personally think TomTom sucks (at least in my experience), and here's why:
- Their support is TERRIBLE. Slow to respond, usually off the mark.
- Their maps are horribly inaccurate (for me, in the midwest US).
It took multiple calls and emails to get them to help me with the RETAIL BOX (not and OEM bundle) version I bought first with my Advantage and now with the Kaiser. On the advantage, they tried to tell me I couldn't run all from the Microdrive. I later discovered I could by installing to an SD card first, and then manually copying it over.
Their interface is SLOW, and so many addresses aren't found (on supposedly the latest US Map, according to their TomTom home utility).
Just today, Garmin announced their Mobile XT software on a MicroSD card, and this is significant because previous versions of Garmin Mobile XT required the use of Garmin's GPS hardware, even if you had an integrated GPS. Now, you can FINALLY use Garmin's software with your own GPS, and I couldn't be happier.
In my personal opinion, Garmin's PDA software (and especially their all-in-one units) are VASTLY SUPERIOR to TomTom, at least here in the US, based on my own extensive experiences.
-Rob

rtsrob,
That could be true, at least in US Because for me, TomTom is still the best and I live in Europe. And have no problem with the interface/speed/etc.

What BS! I just don't get Garmin, why the microSD? Last thing I want to do is pull memory cards just to navigate. I use a 6gig now and it's staying put in my device, many apps need the card so it makes no sense to use a seperate card. This is why I didn't bother with iGo same issue, sheesh.
Regarding support, iGuidance doesn't do much either, when we flashed WM6 to Hermes, iNAV could not/would not believe my detailed description about WM6pro being a standard PPC OS, they kept saying "sorry we don't support WM6, it's only for smart phones, they are not touch screens". Fortunately the S/W just works and GPSpassion has some very sharp folks that have tweaks that can be applied to iGuidance to make some changes.

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What BS! I just don't get Garmin, why the microSD?
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Two words: "Copy Protection"
Richard

Like I said, BS, there's plenty of software only copy protection schemes that don't lock the product to a memory card or BT dongle...

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Like I said, BS, there's plenty of software only copy protection schemes that don't lock the product to a memory card or BT dongle...
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You asked why, not for an opinion on whether copy protection is "BS" or not. I bought Mapopolis in part due to their lack of copy protection. Note the existence of keygens for TomTom and not for Garmin and consider whether that's "BS" or not - particularly from the perspective of the software vendor.
Richard

Obviously you're right, that's why TomTom is a bit player, Right? All that rampant piracy. I don't copy software, I like to believe that most people will pay a fair price for a good product, seems to be working for most vendors. I'd love to try Garmin's and iGo's products, but never will till they take a look outside their shells.
Point taken, nuff said.

Kaiser TyTN2 8925 gps software

Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!

I use TomTom in the UK and find it acceptable. It can be slow to update when you make a turn but whether that is due to the video drivers, TomTom itself or the GPS receiver I couldn't say.

izmahoby said:
Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!
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Yes GPS works well outside the US. In in Europe and it works great.
Havent used TomTom. but i have used almost every other GPS software there is. Do a search ...some good ones are Garmin xt, Destinator 7, pocket navigator 7..
Google maps.. i didnt like. too amateur and it does have maps to all countries.
DO NOT USE Google Navigator..it %^&*ed up my phone settings and was too slow.

I use Garmin XT. My mother has a garmin Nuvi unit, and its just as good as hers only the screen is slightly smaller, but it works great! GPS has a fix for me within 10 seconds everytime.

izmahoby said:
Has anyone used the gps software very much? Better yet has anyone used it outside of the US? I've read good things about Tomtom, but as far as I know it's useless outside of North America. I'm looking for something I can use in China. I know that there are many programs here with the data but I have hardly seen this phone here so don't know if any are compatible with WM6. I have installed Google Maps which has beautiful images, but w/o Edge access it's not useful, and while the images are great there is no street data. Strangely there is no street data, but if I go to Google's China page, ditu.google.cn there is excellent street data, just no phone interface or way of making the gps work with it.
Thanks for any tips (in English or Chinese)!
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MapKing 2007.

TomTom was the first and is still the best sat nav software.
Developed in Europe and works great.
Have used many others, including Garmin and Navman but TomTom is still the only one that has never sent me the wrong way, after 7 years of use.

http://www.compegps.com/
maybe this is something for you, the 1st software I know which is combining Vector maps AND bitmaps. Check the coverage of the Vektor maps, but for the bitmaps you can use ANY bitmaps.
I have tomtom and all available maps installed on my memory card. US, East and west Europe, Singapore, HongKong, Australia and smoething from Afrika.
The navgation so far was good on a small trip in europe, the other cards are just in case, but I will use it later this year in the US.
For Asia I am realy considering the above mentioned software, I did not have it yet, but it good a good report in a german WM magazin. With the bitmaps you cannot navigate like with Vector maps, but you see at at least where you are.
Best regards,
Claus

Nadavi just posted the info on the Polaris HTC GPS program. Of all that I tried, this is the best. Search it on this forum.

what about google maps. i have used it in a jam and thaught it was pretty good . and it is free. you do need a data plan , but in a pinch it's worth it

mrdobie said:
what about google maps. i have used it in a jam and thaught it was pretty good . and it is free. you do need a data plan , but in a pinch it's worth it
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no voice navigation

I've tested Telenav, TomTom, and Mio Maps. Google Maps and Windows Live I really don't consider a "driving" GPS, so I wont comment on those.
Telenav wasn't great. Looks nice, but paying 9.99 extra a month to dl maps as your driving sucks. Especially as you're driving and the map just times-out.
TomTom is by far the EASIEST to install and use. Drop a CAB file in, and drag and drop the map folder on your SD card and you're ready to go. However, the maps folder is almost a gig. Super user friendly and you can find flash software to make your own POI's. I like modding TomTom, but it does move slow at times.
Mio Maps. By far the BEST looking and accuarte of all I've tried. Also easy to install on the Tilt. Maps can be chosen by state or country and loaded into the maps folder, so the maps don't take-up a lot of memory on your card. It's a european-type GPS, but its VERY nice. So far my favorite visually, though I still use TomTom for its simplicity to use.
***EDIT*** Removed RIDICULOUS insinuation of a warez offer since this post NEVER contained any of the such.

Would love a speaking GPS program for my Tilt.
Please "point me" in the "right" direction to get the tom tom navigator or some other really good speaking navigator for my Tilt.
Thank you millions.

cabforager said:
Please "point me" in the "right" direction to get the tom tom navigator or some other really good speaking navigator for my Tilt.
Thank you millions.
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Thanks a Million for reading our Forum policies. WAREZ are not supported here.
=> First request gets you a warning.
Second request (or dare you post WAREZ) gets you a Ban..
Any questions follow the links in my signature.
Sad that your first post was such...

kyphur said:
Thanks a Million for reading our Forum policies. WAREZ are not supported here.
=> First request gets you a warning.
Second request (or dare you post WAREZ) gets you a Ban..
Any questions follow the links in my signature.
Sad that your first post was such...
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uuuummm...what in the world is WAREZ?
I'm sorry for that but I am trying so hard to find good voice navigated GPS software for my Tilt and when you said that I flipped out and did't mean to post twice but this is literally the first forum I have ever registered for...and I'm not sure why that posted twice since I only posted once...

Actually, I don't care.
I read the "rules" and find in number 8 how you say temple very rude and disturbing to those of the Jewish faith.
Since I have never posted on a forum before, I feel like this was a terrible welcome to the world of forums and do not plan on visiting your forum anymore.
I know that there are forums out there who would appreciate more members and care more about how they write their rules.

cabforager said:
Actually, I don't care.
I read the "rules" and find in number 8 how you say temple very rude and disturbing to those of the Jewish faith.
Since I have never posted on a forum before, I feel like this was a terrible welcome to the world of forums and do not plan on visiting your forum anymore.
I know that there are forums out there who would appreciate more members and care more about how they write their rules.
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What? How could you take that as anything offensive to the Jewish faith. It mentions nothing specific. The only thing offensive in rule eight is the word "liberal." lol.
Warez are illegal copies of or "pirated" software.

michalopoulosgk said:
Nadavi just posted the info on the Polaris HTC GPS program. Of all that I tried, this is the best. Search it on this forum.
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Providing a link is always appreciated. You are meaning this, yes?
I like it, but if you don't have a map to hand it's not exactly handy. It was mostly interesting to see the satellite locations and following the location information. (If you're a geek, you'll love it).
I am using Garmin XT (nicked it off my Dad who no longer used it), but I don't exactly use it often. For the limited GPS assisted travelling I have done, it has been more than adequate. I'll echo what someone said i that it works quite well. Get a lock within 25 seconds of walking out my front door, sometimes before I leave.

Well, you can use the Mapking softwares. This is the one i use in Beijing (version R12.0 is dedicated to the Kaiser although i know that Mapking 2007 is also working). It's working well although it's not super fancy (like Tom Tom) and the maps are pretty old especially in a country where cities change every new moon.
I have been looking for GPS programs to use in China for a while and as far as i know there is not a lot of possibilities if you want to have English maps. If you can read Chinese then you have a lot of choice.
Among the programs i have checked is Gmap, a software that can import maps from GoogleMaps (like the Google Ditu ones for China) ... but it's a bit tricky as it requieres an IBM Java platform (it won't work otherwise). I couldn't make it work on my Kaiser but i might give it a try again.
Apart from that, Destinator 6.1 might also have something soon ... but i haven't really checked yet.
Anyway, I am also curious if someone has any ideas on that matter.
PS: guys, most of your answer are far from the initial topic. The original question was not "What do I have in my nice little Kaiser?" so please if you just want to tell what software you like to use, then create another post. Thanks.

Gps in the caribbean
So far the only gps software i can usefully use in the caribbean is google maps, i am guessing that tomtom and other software manufactures not interested in doing our maps yet.

fivbag said:
So far the only gps software i can usefully use in the caribbean is google maps, i am guessing that tomtom and other software manufactures not interested in doing our maps yet.
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I'm sure you googled "GPS MAPS CARIBBEAN" before you made your FIRST COMPLAINING POST HERE and found the link to FREE maps of Caribbean (http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/) which was the second highest rated link on Google. If not, you may find that not only can you use the maps for free, but you can CONTRIBUTE to their development. I trust that with your assistance, the Caribbean will be well mapped in no time.

Why the Diamond is likely to be many's (or at least my) last Windows Mobile Device

Right now the Diamond is the best phone on the market and that includes the iPhone. But I think it will be my last Windows Mobile phone, it all depends on whether Apple can fix the shortcomings of iPhone next time around. The main reasons I will jump is because
1) The iPhones slick UI and large screen
2) iPhone is getting better developer support than Windows Mobile - eg where are the windows mobile facebook, myspace and shaznam apps? they dont exist. Imagine the situation in 12 months!
3) Storage - 4GB is too small. 16 an above.. much nicer.
Things Apple need to improve for me to jump ship
- Bluetooth file exchange
-A2DP
-MMS
-Video calling
-Open up the phone - let me use it as a USB storage device, let me dump media on it without itunes
- VGA screen?
- Let me sync tasks over exchange
- Support external storage cards?
Thats really it for me, and they are getting close. I do love Windows Mobile but its the lack of developer support now that irks me. It never used to be this way, but now sadly use Windows Mobile users are being ignored.

First off, Apple loves to keep you in their little world, so you'll never be able to use an iPhone outside of iTunes to transfer files. Second, most of the Apps cost money, the WinMo availability of freeware is above and beyond IMO. Third, why not just wait around for a Touch Pro (up to 32GB) if you want memory card support? I agree with you in some ways, the iPhone has a very appealing UI and big screen, but I can't say I'll be converting any time soon. I'll leave the iPhone 3G to my girlfriend and be happy with a Touch Pro, whenever that may be. Best of luck with whichever device you choose, hope your cellular experience is a good one.

Well in terms of UI - yeah the Diamond works well. The main thing that concerns me is developer support, and im noticing this as my other half has a 3G iphone now. Nothing new is being developed for windows mobile, yet the app store continues to thrive.
Have you used facebook on iphone, its amazing - I can view all my contacts pictures in full screen high quality. Now the Diamond has a higher resolution screen.. so wheres its facebook app.. oh right there isnt one. Same with myspace, same with skybymobile, same with shaznam, same with ebay - there just isnt the support for windows mobile anymore, so this is going way beyond the matter of UI and frills
As for storage - come on! would it have killed HTC to put a micro SD slot in the Diamond? The Touch Pro is ugly and obese, not an option for me

I need communications.
What the f** should I want facebook and all those other crap site need for ???
If you need phone for entertainment get yourself that I phone. But I need it for my business and I'd be ashamed to hold up an I phone in front of customers.
It's that little toy thing, an I phone. The diamond isn't and does the job with sms, calling, exchange, activesyncing, emailing, easy to use, and some photo's videos just as good not better.
I get tired of these topics.

There's a program for eBay but it's $3.99 a month I think, as for MySpace, MySpace Mobile? I don't know, but once SkyFire releases it won't matter... It'll all be as good as we've ever seen it.

darthbane2k said:
As for storage - come on! would it have killed HTC to put a micro SD slot in the Diamond? The Touch Pro is ugly and obese, not an option for me
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Well I'm from the states, so of course I have no morals when it comes to obesity... Touch Pro for me!

darthbane2k said:
Things Apple need to improve for me to jump ship
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- Bluetooth file exchange
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Wasn't neither intruduced by iPhone 3G nor Firmware 2.0. How long do you want to wait for a feature that almost ANY other bluetooth-enabled device supports just on market appearance?
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-A2DP
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see above.
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-MMS
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see above. MMS ist just as old as bluetooth btw. I remember of my SonyEricsson T68i which was one of the first MMS mobiles that also had color screen and bluetooth.
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-Video calling
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see above. 3G iPhone claims to support UMTS. For me, video telephony is substantial part of UMTS. So what? Apple fooled you again.
darthbane2k said:
-Open up the phone
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This will NEVER happen. Apple even tries to hire hackers just to make their software more closed (They call it secure)
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- let me use it as a USB storage device, let me dump media on it without itunes
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Also unlikely to happen. Older iPods had this feature, has been disabled later on. I don' t think they' ll jump forward and backward all the time and just stay with how it is atm.
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- VGA screen?
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Maybe. Still Apple would come too late with this. Already (widely) available on the market.
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- Let me sync tasks over exchange
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Did you read iPhone 3G / Firmware 2.0 feature list? They claim Exchange is supported. But I am sure ActiveSync is not, so really only interesting for business customers with their own Exchange server. Yeah I knowthere is free Mail2Web provider, but I think they' ll discontinue their free service if enough are using it.
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- Support external storage cards?
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Maybe. But also unlikely.
BTW you forgot the possibility to change battery. LOL, guess my answer on that one.
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Thats really it for me, and they are getting close.
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You see, in fact they aren' t.

i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond.
as for comparisons between the diamond and ipod .......give me a break....there are more here and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
lol i am revenged. an over "300 posts" beaten to the pulp by a "23 posts".

Riel said:
I need communications.
What the f** should I want facebook and all those other crap site need for ???
If you need phone for entertainment get yourself that I phone. But I need it for my business and I'd be ashamed to hold up an I phone in front of customers.
It's that little toy thing, an I phone. The diamond isn't and does the job with sms, calling, exchange, activesyncing, emailing, easy to use, and some photo's videos just as good not better.
I get tired of these topics.
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sorry mate but I use the best of both worlds
exchange for corporate use and social networking for personal use.
Is that so wrong? The Diamond (or rather Windows Mobile) is fully capable, its just not being supported.

Black93300ZX said:
There's a program for eBay but it's $3.99 a month I think, as for MySpace, MySpace Mobile? I don't know, but once SkyFire releases it won't matter... It'll all be as good as we've ever seen it.
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Well Opera renders facebook/myspace pretty damn well but it cant display pictures in full screen like the iphone versions. The diamond has a damn gorgeous screen - just imagine viewing friends' holiday snaps in full screen? The possibilties are endless, the tech is being wasted.

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i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
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In fact you don' t even understand that. Or how was that again when I asked about that LED/Lightsensor thing and you hit me?

KukurikU said:
i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond. there are more comparisons between the diamond and ipod here, on the forum and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
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Wrong - this thread is very necessary. Its about improving the diamond through developement.
We all agree that the diamond has a fantastic spec right? Well how many apps out there are taking advantage of its technology? The facebook thing was an example. I mean there is not decent facebook app for a VGA screen - no shazam app for windows mobile professional at all. Im not comparing apples with oranges but the Diamond's features are not being fully exploited. Why are developers jumping ship? Windows mobile used to be kick ass for developer support.
We will have more high end WM devices soon, touch pro, omnia, xperia... so whats the excuse?

darthbane2k said:
Have you used facebook on iphone, its amazing - I can view all my contacts pictures in full screen high quality. Now the Diamond has a higher resolution screen.. so wheres its facebook app.. oh right there isnt one.
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I don't use facebook so I can not test it but this site claims to have a facebook app:
http://faceofmobile.com/

sandeman684 said:
I don't use facebook so I can not test it but this site claims to have a facebook app:
http://faceofmobile.com/
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friendmobilizer and snap2face do not work on vga devices. So we are back to square one. friendmobilizer is the worst - doesnt even support full screen images and looks ugly. No one is exploting the diamond's technology, and then we have the omnia,touch pro, xperia waiting in the rings - a whole host of VGA windows mobile devices that have no real support.

KukurikU said:
i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond.
as for comparisons between the diamond and ipod .......give me a break....there are more here and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
lol i am revenged. an over "300 posts" beaten to the pulp by a "23 posts".
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I think there should be a section called DIAMOND FEEDBACK... where everyone can slag off or praise the diamond as much as they like, not cluttering up the main forum. It would be the place to go to literally get feedback on what people think of their Diamonds. This wouldnt be too hard to implement, would it?

tomchap said:
I think there should be a section called DIAMOND FEEDBACK... where everyone can slag off or praise the diamond as much as they like, not cluttering up the main forum. It would be the place to go to literally get feedback on what people think of their Diamonds. This wouldnt be too hard to implement, would it?
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No one is slagging off the Diamond. I love mine, its a fantasic device - my concern is that windows mobile is losing developer support rapidly, and as a concequence the diamond has no real support for VGA apps that take advantage of its hardware.
I find it highly ironic that you accuse me of cluttering up the main forum when that same forum is full of redundant threads such as "lets try to copy that novelty beer app for the iphone"

Well, the diamond is out for what is it? 2 months now?
It's the wirst WIDELY used phone with VGA screen so MAYBE we have to wait a little for other apps to come??

Here we go again
Oh dear...
here we go again...
The Admins of XDA should create a forum under the Diamond section called iWhine - that way we can put all the rubbish in it and leave the actual Diamond forums...well... DIAMOND-ORIENTED!

Riel said:
Well, the diamond is out for what is it? 2 months now?
It's the wirst WIDELY used phone with VGA screen so MAYBE we have to wait a little for other apps to come??
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hold on so WE have to wait longer while the iphones app store thrives with more and more significant releases? There is a big problem with developer support for windows mobile at the moment and im not sure whose responsibility it is to turn things around.. Microsofts perhaps?

mkhattab said:
Oh dear...
here we go again...
The Admins of XDA should create a forum under the Diamond section called iWhine - that way we can put all the rubbish in it and leave the actual Diamond forums...well... DIAMOND-ORIENTED!
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This is Diamond orientated. Did you even read the posts on this thread?