Hello, I am going to buy an HTC TYTN II Unlocked phone. I am now using an ATT 8525 on which I installed the HTC TYTN rom with WM6. I unlocked the 8525 using the Hard/SPL and SIM/CID unlock. My question is, since the TYTN II I am buying will be unlocked, do I still need to do the HARD/SPL and SIM/CID unlock to make the phone work on multiple carriers? I don't think I will be playing around with any different roms on the TYTN II since I heard it is a good rom, so my main question is about the SIM issue.
Thanks, sorry if this is a stupid question.
nope. its an unlocked phone by default if you buy it htc branded, so you don't need to do anything to sim unlock it, it'll just work - just make sure you let it set everying up properly when you turn it on for the first time
If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it is SIM unlocked. That's what makes it possible to use it on any GSM carrier.
You only need to flash HardSPL (CID unlock the phone) if you plan to flash ROMs. That being said - the HTC ROM is decent, but not up to par with what the pros are cooking up here. I was hesitant to flash, so I used it for the first week. When I started flashing, I never looked back. They take the best from the stock ROMs and improve upon it (particularly in the speed and performance arena). FWIW.
Hey thanks for the clarification. I guess I should consider using a cooked ROM like I did for my 8525, what a difference it made to use the TYTN rom. I know there is a link for the HardSPL, so all I need to do is flash that to the TYTN II and I can use any rom I find, right? What about the issues with the drivers for the TYTN II, do any new roms address those issues? If I flash HardSPL am I then forced to immediately flash a new rom?
Is this the link for the HardSPL for the TYTN II?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
I don't need to run the SIM unlocker obviously, right? Just HardSPL?
What about SuperCID and Security Unlocker?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Do I need to bother with this?
Hey there. What if I do the SIM/CID unlock on the TYTN II already unlocked phone? I remember that I had to do that on my 8525 before I could do the HardSPL. In other words, should I do the SIM/CID unlock and then do the HardSPL??
Thanks!
SIM unlock and CID unlock are two different things. If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it will be SIM unlocked and you don't need to run anything. I wouldn't run anything SIM related (like the SIM unlocker that was released), just so you don't cause an issue. HardSPL (which will CID unlock your phone) will not force you to immediately flash a new ROM...just gives you the option to. Does not affect the current ROM you have on it. So there is no confusion - you should be looking here for info on HardSPL. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 If you have any issues with the HardSPL, there are several stickies and many topics related to problems.
I have not used SuperCID or Security Unlocker. As such, there is no need to in order to take advantage of custom ROMs.
Again...don't mess around with the SIM unlocker if you are buying an "unlocked" phone. You do HAVE to run HardSPL before you try to flash a ROM or radio or anything. However, once you flash HardSPL you do not HAVE to immediately flash a ROM or radio.
I highly encourage you to read the wiki and the stickies more than once before you start messing around with this stuff or if you are even slightly confused. The standard ROM isn't so bad that you have to run out and flash the first day if you are not comfortable doing so. Good luck.
I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG
Hey thanks for the help. I am fairly conifdent about flashing roms. I did it with no problem on the 8525 and it has worked well so far. I guess I will wait and play with the standard rom on the TYTN II and then decide about changing, but I will definitely flash HardSPL as soon as I get it.
Thanks again!!
jgdorado said:
I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG
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They don't like anyone to ask about which rom to use because ther are so many, you just have to decide and play around with them on your own.
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....What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality ....
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What is the best religion?
Which is the best football team?
OK the last one doesnt really apply as everyone knows it is Man United but you get the idea. Everyone has their own needs, preferences etc.
Best advice is to read the relevent ROM threads and choose one that sounds most appropriate for your needs. FWIW though Duttys ROMs do seem very popular.
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I upgraded my T-Mobile MDA to the newest ROM and everything is great... now I want to do the same for my Cingular 8125 except that I need it unlocked for use with AT&T. It's running good with the stock ROM and it's unlocked... but I want the newest ROM on it.
Question is, how can I upgrade to the newest ROM and be assured it will be unlocked? It's a phone I use A LOT (!!!) so if it can't be unlocked after I do the upgrade, I'm screwed.
Thanks!
I thought once unlocked always unlocked. i upgraded my 8125, but i also use Cingular's service.
I need someone to confirm that then, I can't afford for it to be locked after the upgrade... and the upgrade should fix some of the problems I've been having.
SIM and CID unlocked my MDA Vario with Lokiwiz and after that installed 2 different ROMs and it still unlocked...
what do you need to be unlocked specifically, what ability do you need, and I can try it on my phone possibly.
I want to be able to make calls with my AT&T SIM card, and I'm using MMode for internet.
Well, here goes nothing... thought I'd just hope it works... 1% done so far.
Worked great, thanks for the suggestions guys
good to hear.
Hi Guys,
Firstly, i am new to this - so if i ask any stupid Q's, please forgive me
I will be getting my MDA Vario tomorrow, and before i do too much customisaton and transfer my phonebook over, i would like some advice on upgrading.
From reading this Forum, i believe that I have to do a CID unlock and a SIM unlock. I am familier with a SIM unlock, but what it a CID unlock?
Also, from what i can gather, in order to do this - i have to downgrade to an older version of the rom first. Once i have done this and unlocked the device, does anyone have any recomendations on what ROM i should upgrade it to? I have heard the Qtek rom is a good one, but will is this the best one to be going for?
Thanks for your input guys. You can be asured, once i get familier with this device i shall be providing much imput to this forum!
Glyn
Hi, I'm new to WM5/vario as well (experienced on palms & treos).
You only need to unlock the wizard if you want to use another suppliers SIM card, and to get rid of the T-Mobile stuff you need to remove the Carrier ID (CID), so you can then change the rom to another one not recognised by your TMobile rom.
I understand, but could be wrong, that you only need to down grade if your device already has one of the latest a2dp stereo roms with push email built in.
Hope this helps (if I'm right)!!!
Hey gang.
Sorry if this is a dupe somewhere but I tried to look around and could not find this information.
I have an 8125 which is unlocked. I am finding the device slow and am told the new upgraded 2.x rom fixes much of the speed issues.
What I couldn't find was, if I install one of the rom updates, is my phone now locked again and I have to manually unlock it myself?
If it remains unlocked, I was thinking of installing the following:
http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/microsoft
Is this a 2.x rom?
Also I am on Rogers GSM network, do I have to redo anything as far as text messages, phone etc? It's a new phone so I have no contact list etc.
Just want to make sure I'm not getting myself into a bricked phone before I do it
Thanks and take care!
once u unlock it, its always unlocked.
That is the 2.25 ROM, official Cingular release. You don't need to be unlocked to upgrade to it though.
When you start going to ROM's like Summiter's and the Mr. Clean ROM (or even some of the other carrier ROM's), then you'll definitely have to be CID unlocked.
As far as text messaging, no. That's pretty much stored on the SIM card as far as I can tell (at least it was for me).
For your Internet and such, that you will have to likely input.
Good luck!
Hello,
how can I downgrade a AT7T tilt 8925 WM6.1 to Wm6.0 I want to unlock it.
Do I need to have a sim card in the phone to unlock it?
no. but you need to run simlock.exe which is in the windows folder. All of it's right here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
(a la bill lumbergh) If you could just go ahead and RTFM that would be terrific.
ich-t said:
Hello,
how can I downgrade a AT7T tilt 8925 WM6.1 to Wm6.0 I want to unlock it.
Do I need to have a sim card in the phone to unlock it?
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Are you sure you have 6.1? AT$T has not released a 6.1 upgrade for the Tilt. If you are sure that you have 6.1, then it must be a cooked rom . In that case all you have to do is re-flash to whatever rom you want.
ich-t said:
Hello,
how can I downgrade a AT7T tilt 8925 WM6.1 to Wm6.0 I want to unlock it.
Do I need to have a sim card in the phone to unlock it?
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if all you want to do is sim unlock your device than the only thing you need to do is pick up the phone and call att. The will give you the unlock code with in 5 minutes. (just tell them you are going over seas and need the unlock code).
If however you want to flash a rom to your device .. than you need to flash hardspl; a simple search "hardspl for kaiser" will pull all info you need. and after that you need to read the kaiser wiki section on rom flashing.
Once you have full understanding of what you are doing than happily proceed
I look at the my Rom version and it is 1.57.502.2.
and my Radio Version is a 1.27.12.11
So is that a WM 6.1 or just a 6.0.
if all you want to do is sim unlock your device than the only thing you need to do is pick up the phone and call att. The will give you the unlock code with in 5 minutes. (just tell them you are going over seas and need the unlock code).
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Thanks, but I bought this phone on ebay used. So I do not have a contract and I want to use it with t-mobile
ich-t said:
I look at the my Rom version and it is 1.57.502.2.
and my Radio Version is a 1.27.12.11
So is that a WM 6.1 or just a 6.0.
Thanks, but I bought this phone on ebay used. So I do not have a contract and I want to use it with t-mobile
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That is the original AT$T 6.0 rom . AT$T has not yet upgraded that rom to 6.1
If you want to unlock your phone to use on another carrier, just follow the steps on this wiki:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
denco7 said:
That is the original AT$T 6.0 rom . AT$T has not yet upgraded that rom to 6.1
If you want to unlock your phone to use on another carrier, just follow the steps on this wiki:http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
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ne of the steps are
"Do not try this on 6.1! You will need to downgrade to 6.0"
Wow you diggin in the graveyard
I have WM61 on my Tilt. I also have my unlock code from ATT. Where do I input the code?I was told there would be a window asking for my unlock code. Instead I get the phone stating I can make emergency calls.
Where do I input my unlock code? Does anyone know?
also tried simlock.exe in windows and it said code for region verified but then nothing else happened and i cant open the program again..can i downgrade to 6.0 somehow without using software because i am out of the states and i dont have the cord to connect to computer...also i have a mac so it wont work anyways..thanks for any help..i have searched all over but cant seem to find anyhting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402393
yeah i read that..i did it.....now my att sim cant be recongnize...and my other sim cant be recongnized....any ideas?...
I have read soo many things that I think my eyes are starting to bleed. I have read so many things that make me question which is the most current. I think I am ready to do something then I read.
stylez said:
Wow you diggin in the graveyard
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Can someone please help me figure out what to do? Do I, or do I not downgrade before I can sim/cid unlock?
My current phone is
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05h
D 3.57.00.00
I have already loaded the Hard SPL, and am wanting to Flash soon. I have been reading for the last 4 days, and keep reading so many admins telling us to search and read, but there is soo much info out there, that it is hard to tell what is needed.
Also, Can someone explain the difference between a cid and superCID?
Liquidd.
Just make sure you have the proper hardspl for 6.0 and make sure you follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
and you are done.
You really should read until your eyes actually bleed. j/k
That worked great. Thanks a lot.
Liquidd
Hey, I'm a newb, I've been doing the reading and the searching and all that good stuff. Here's the deal: I bought a new AT&T Tilt on eBay. It was flashed with a new ROM right out of the box then sold (has a Confused Stu ROM). It's unlocked and is working fine with T-Mobile. Now my questions: Do I need to do a SIM CID unlock again or am I good to go? and I'm assuming I'll have to add HardSPL correct? Anything else I should know? Thanks
- Mark
Being its an AT&T phone and has T-mobile on it probably proves that its already SIM unlocked.
The only way to tell if the device is SIM unlocked is to insert another sim from a different carrier.
Its better to be safe then sorry though. It doesn't hurt to reinstall the unlockers.
Same with Hard SPL. I would reinstall. Better off installing and knowing its there instead of possibly havin a bad flash and bricking your nice tilt. Theres a flashing for newbs link in my signature. Run through those directions, installing whats listed and after that no need to do it again. Just keep flashing different roms until you find the one that suites you best.