Hey, I'm a newb, I've been doing the reading and the searching and all that good stuff. Here's the deal: I bought a new AT&T Tilt on eBay. It was flashed with a new ROM right out of the box then sold (has a Confused Stu ROM). It's unlocked and is working fine with T-Mobile. Now my questions: Do I need to do a SIM CID unlock again or am I good to go? and I'm assuming I'll have to add HardSPL correct? Anything else I should know? Thanks
- Mark
Being its an AT&T phone and has T-mobile on it probably proves that its already SIM unlocked.
The only way to tell if the device is SIM unlocked is to insert another sim from a different carrier.
Its better to be safe then sorry though. It doesn't hurt to reinstall the unlockers.
Same with Hard SPL. I would reinstall. Better off installing and knowing its there instead of possibly havin a bad flash and bricking your nice tilt. Theres a flashing for newbs link in my signature. Run through those directions, installing whats listed and after that no need to do it again. Just keep flashing different roms until you find the one that suites you best.
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Hi Guys,
Firstly, i am new to this - so if i ask any stupid Q's, please forgive me
I will be getting my MDA Vario tomorrow, and before i do too much customisaton and transfer my phonebook over, i would like some advice on upgrading.
From reading this Forum, i believe that I have to do a CID unlock and a SIM unlock. I am familier with a SIM unlock, but what it a CID unlock?
Also, from what i can gather, in order to do this - i have to downgrade to an older version of the rom first. Once i have done this and unlocked the device, does anyone have any recomendations on what ROM i should upgrade it to? I have heard the Qtek rom is a good one, but will is this the best one to be going for?
Thanks for your input guys. You can be asured, once i get familier with this device i shall be providing much imput to this forum!
Glyn
Hi, I'm new to WM5/vario as well (experienced on palms & treos).
You only need to unlock the wizard if you want to use another suppliers SIM card, and to get rid of the T-Mobile stuff you need to remove the Carrier ID (CID), so you can then change the rom to another one not recognised by your TMobile rom.
I understand, but could be wrong, that you only need to down grade if your device already has one of the latest a2dp stereo roms with push email built in.
Hope this helps (if I'm right)!!!
Hey gang.
Sorry if this is a dupe somewhere but I tried to look around and could not find this information.
I have an 8125 which is unlocked. I am finding the device slow and am told the new upgraded 2.x rom fixes much of the speed issues.
What I couldn't find was, if I install one of the rom updates, is my phone now locked again and I have to manually unlock it myself?
If it remains unlocked, I was thinking of installing the following:
http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/microsoft
Is this a 2.x rom?
Also I am on Rogers GSM network, do I have to redo anything as far as text messages, phone etc? It's a new phone so I have no contact list etc.
Just want to make sure I'm not getting myself into a bricked phone before I do it
Thanks and take care!
once u unlock it, its always unlocked.
That is the 2.25 ROM, official Cingular release. You don't need to be unlocked to upgrade to it though.
When you start going to ROM's like Summiter's and the Mr. Clean ROM (or even some of the other carrier ROM's), then you'll definitely have to be CID unlocked.
As far as text messaging, no. That's pretty much stored on the SIM card as far as I can tell (at least it was for me).
For your Internet and such, that you will have to likely input.
Good luck!
Hello all. A noob here. I am getting an unlocked Wing and I am planning to reflash it in order to use it on Cingular/ATT Network.
I've looked and couldn't find step-by-step instructions on flashing.
I have the roms that I need downloaded already, but I didn't know if it is as easy as it appears to be. (WM6 WWE v3 +/- TouchFlo)
Do I take the sim card out before reflashing? Do I plug in the device, Turn activesync on, then double-click on the rom?
If someone can reply with the step-by-step process, that'd be great!
Thanks in advance.
You don't need to flash it with new ROM in order to use it on ATT. All it needs is to be SIM unlocked and you should be able POP your ATT SIM in and go. If you want to experiment with custom ROM's your phone would need to be CID unlocked first. I don't know if there is an easy/free CID unlocking tool for Wing, but "search" is a helluva feature
thanks
Yes, so it is SIM unlocked, and I can pop my SIM in and make calls. However..........I do believe T-Mobile locks their browsers and I can't edit the GPRS/Network settings in order for me to use the phone for the internet. That is mainly why I want to reflash--getting rid of the t-mobile crap would be nice too
So Flashing instructions...or, if someone can't link me to some source that would be great! Thanks.
ok, CID unlocked.
So plug it in, connect activesync and flash away?
nevermind, i get it hehe.. i found some instructions here that can be tailored to install other roms:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/installation-instructions.html
Hello, I am going to buy an HTC TYTN II Unlocked phone. I am now using an ATT 8525 on which I installed the HTC TYTN rom with WM6. I unlocked the 8525 using the Hard/SPL and SIM/CID unlock. My question is, since the TYTN II I am buying will be unlocked, do I still need to do the HARD/SPL and SIM/CID unlock to make the phone work on multiple carriers? I don't think I will be playing around with any different roms on the TYTN II since I heard it is a good rom, so my main question is about the SIM issue.
Thanks, sorry if this is a stupid question.
nope. its an unlocked phone by default if you buy it htc branded, so you don't need to do anything to sim unlock it, it'll just work - just make sure you let it set everying up properly when you turn it on for the first time
If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it is SIM unlocked. That's what makes it possible to use it on any GSM carrier.
You only need to flash HardSPL (CID unlock the phone) if you plan to flash ROMs. That being said - the HTC ROM is decent, but not up to par with what the pros are cooking up here. I was hesitant to flash, so I used it for the first week. When I started flashing, I never looked back. They take the best from the stock ROMs and improve upon it (particularly in the speed and performance arena). FWIW.
Hey thanks for the clarification. I guess I should consider using a cooked ROM like I did for my 8525, what a difference it made to use the TYTN rom. I know there is a link for the HardSPL, so all I need to do is flash that to the TYTN II and I can use any rom I find, right? What about the issues with the drivers for the TYTN II, do any new roms address those issues? If I flash HardSPL am I then forced to immediately flash a new rom?
Is this the link for the HardSPL for the TYTN II?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
I don't need to run the SIM unlocker obviously, right? Just HardSPL?
What about SuperCID and Security Unlocker?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Do I need to bother with this?
Hey there. What if I do the SIM/CID unlock on the TYTN II already unlocked phone? I remember that I had to do that on my 8525 before I could do the HardSPL. In other words, should I do the SIM/CID unlock and then do the HardSPL??
Thanks!
SIM unlock and CID unlock are two different things. If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it will be SIM unlocked and you don't need to run anything. I wouldn't run anything SIM related (like the SIM unlocker that was released), just so you don't cause an issue. HardSPL (which will CID unlock your phone) will not force you to immediately flash a new ROM...just gives you the option to. Does not affect the current ROM you have on it. So there is no confusion - you should be looking here for info on HardSPL. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 If you have any issues with the HardSPL, there are several stickies and many topics related to problems.
I have not used SuperCID or Security Unlocker. As such, there is no need to in order to take advantage of custom ROMs.
Again...don't mess around with the SIM unlocker if you are buying an "unlocked" phone. You do HAVE to run HardSPL before you try to flash a ROM or radio or anything. However, once you flash HardSPL you do not HAVE to immediately flash a ROM or radio.
I highly encourage you to read the wiki and the stickies more than once before you start messing around with this stuff or if you are even slightly confused. The standard ROM isn't so bad that you have to run out and flash the first day if you are not comfortable doing so. Good luck.
I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG
Hey thanks for the help. I am fairly conifdent about flashing roms. I did it with no problem on the 8525 and it has worked well so far. I guess I will wait and play with the standard rom on the TYTN II and then decide about changing, but I will definitely flash HardSPL as soon as I get it.
Thanks again!!
jgdorado said:
I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG
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They don't like anyone to ask about which rom to use because ther are so many, you just have to decide and play around with them on your own.
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....What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality ....
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What is the best religion?
Which is the best football team?
OK the last one doesnt really apply as everyone knows it is Man United but you get the idea. Everyone has their own needs, preferences etc.
Best advice is to read the relevent ROM threads and choose one that sounds most appropriate for your needs. FWIW though Duttys ROMs do seem very popular.
Hi all, sorry for being such a newbie, but...
I want to buy a Diamond locked to the Orange network, UK. Am I right in thinking the following...
1) The only way to get this phone unlocked is to pay for software (As mentioned elsewhere on this forum).
2) Once unlocking software is purchased, it comes with other software which de-brands the phone and replaces the Orange firmware with the HTC original (or at least, a cooked version thereof).
Thanks for all help received !!!
P.S. I did try searching for these answers myself on the forum, but kinda lost the will to live whilst reading page 6 of a 16-page thread, in which people appeared to contradict one another - So I thought I would just ask the experts and get a simple yes / no !
1) Not strictly the only way, but the simplest and cheapest.
2) No, you can leave as is, or you can just put whatever you like in it, and that's whether or not it's locked to Orange...
I'm still locked to Orange (no intention of changing given the great deal I got), and I've already flashed to the latest HTC original 1.93.405.1, I've tried a variety of radios, and am currently back to 1.00.25.05, (the phone originally came from Orange with a 1.00.25.03 Radio).
1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.
964rs777 said:
1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.
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1. Because, obviously, his intention is so.
Hi,
Thanks for all the help.
I didn't make myself very clear above. What I was trying to say was that I am going to buy a phone which is (briefly) used, but comes with a 1-year guarantee. At present the phone is locked to Orange and I wanted to unlock it and rebrand it because...
1) Orange are alot dearer unless you tie yourself into a (min)12 month contract
[Something which I def. dont want to do !]
AND
2) Orange usually (or at least used to) personalize a phones firmware with their own menu system/ icons etc. Which again, I don't want, because the phones original/generic firmware is usually better IMHO.
I was hoping that the unlocking & de-branding may simply have been a case of flashing the phone using existing software - but oh well !!!
Actually, just a thought - the Orange phones do come locked don't they ?
Orange phones are locked, yes. But with the Diamond, it's unbranded so no real need to flash the ROM unless you want to improve upon it's working speed
Flashing the ROM is pretty easy and all the software is free and available on this site in the ROMs section.
Unlocking the phone means paying for an unlock code which isn't usually that expensive.
keep in mind that this will void your warranty too
But with the Diamond, it's unbranded
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Excellent that makes a nice change !
keep in mind that this will void your warranty too
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Is there no way of backing up the original rom before overwriting it ?
Thanks