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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

Palm Threaded App!!! Good News

I first purchased my tilt on nov. 28 and on jan. 11 it would not sync to my pc. To make a long story short ATT sent me a new Tilt. When I recieved the new phone I simply installed wm6 threadded app for higher aku version phones. No messing with hidded files, just a simple .cab install and it works fine. Hooray

did get the mms part of the palm app to work? i've been using this palm threaded app since i got my kaiser last october, and sms threading works fine, easy cab install. just that mms gets an out of memory error.

uc4life said:
I first purchased my tilt on nov. 28 and on jan. 11 it would not sync to my pc. To make a long story short ATT sent me a new Tilt. When I recieved the new phone I simply installed wm6 threadded app for higher aku version phones. No messing with hidded files, just a simple .cab install and it works fine. Hooray
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Hi:
Like the second poster, I'd like to know if MMS is working.
Also, would you please post which cab you used, since there are several floating around?
Thanks so much!

I have MMS plus threaded SMS working on a stock ATT Tilt ROM.

grizzley said:
I have MMS plus threaded SMS working on a stock ATT Tilt ROM.
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Hi:
That's great to hear.
By any chance could you help me get it going on my Tilt?

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
That's great to hear.
By any chance could you help me get it going on my Tilt?
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Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.

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Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.
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Hi Grizzley:
THANKS SO MUCH!
I had read through so many threads on the subject, that I was a bit overwhelmed, and was nervous to try it out.
Your instructions worked perfectly (at least so far, lol).
Thanks again!

I'm glad it worked. I have been using it for about 2 months and from what I can tell, I have had no problems.

this thread is a little misleading, this is a fix that has been covered way back in the begining, and grizzly pointed to the correct post for that. The reason most chef's used a certain arcsoft version in the cooked roms was so that we could have seperated mms and sms accounts in the default messaging section.
SO just to clarify for people, this is to use palm threaded app with Arcsoft MMS. THIS IS NOT to get the mms portion of the threaded app to work...

shogunmark said:
this thread is a little misleading, this is a fix that has been covered way back in the begining, and grizzly pointed to the correct post for that. The reason most chef's used a certain arcsoft version in the cooked roms was so that we could have seperated mms and sms accounts in the default messaging section.
SO just to clarify for people, this is to use palm threaded app with Arcsoft MMS. THIS IS NOT to get the mms portion of the threaded app to work...
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Very good point Shogun. I think, at least for me, all the other threads from a long time ago have so much conflicting information. I just wanted to be able to use threaded SMS, but not lose mms completely. There were so many posts made before this one, and yes I read all of them lol, but it just became overwhelming to figure out which cabs were the most recent, what devices were they tested on etc.
But, thanks to this new thread (and Grizzley's help) I was able to find an easy solution to have both threaded sms and mms working.
Thanks
By the way, I am using your threaded sms cab, THANKS for making it

Hi:
This solution is working very well for me. My only problem is that for some reason text in landscape mode is very small (I usually use large font).
Is there any way to set text in landscape mode to stay the same size as in portrait mode?
Thanks!

Sounds great! Can PPCPimBackup keep track of this program? Or is there any other program that can backup sms as fast and easy as PPCPimBackup?

I have the annoying problem of text messages from the future from a specific friend. Will this screw up my usual messaging? It would see that the phone would be smart enough to know a message from the future if one hour off.
Anyway. I'm drunk and posting. Weeee.
I did the WM6.1 upgrade and finally have (most) of my stuff back to normal.

Looking for a THREADED SMS application!!

On my old WM5 devices, text messages showed in a threaded conversation view, like what you see here:
http://www.mykesoft.com/textr/details.php
but in WM6, on my kaiser with duttys each text message takes up a whole line, I can not find a way to view text messages like an IM conversation. Anyone know of a good one?
The one I provided a link to does not install on a duttys flashed ROM.
Any advice helpful~!

I don't have links on hand, but I do know that there are a few threads already about this very topic. You might try searching to see what you can find.
Personally I have tried PocketCM, and liked the concept, but didn't like the speed of the contact lookup... especially compared to FFF.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899
very similar to the textr link, but doesn't have the contact pics on the side.

i use the palm one and can't use sms without it. If you don't care about loosing your mms then install the palm one, its freaking awesome. I wish someone would fix the mms portion so that it worked again, but for some reason it just stopped working on the kaiser.

I used Extreme Text, it works great, I really like how simple it is, but its not freeware, but its not ridicously price.

Threaded SMS

ok, so I tried SMS chat, and it's nice, but there are a few flaws that I am not sure of, I also heard that TEXTr is a little too buggy for its own good.
anyone know of a good app that will give me a chat type app. I tried a wile ago the Palm extracted version, but the MMS stopped working for some reason.
any ideas, is there an update to the Palm app, is there something else out there that someone recommends?

PocketCM at PocketCM.com is good. I use SMS-Chat by VITO personally, and I love it. The Palm App you can get fixes for so that you can get MMS working, if you do a few minutes of searching on the forums.

I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search fuction.

I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search function.

I was having problems with my MMS but I think I will try SMS Chat until they get some of those bugs worked our. Thanks for the info.

I found that when using sms chat, touchpal back space to delete word not working. Anyone else experiencing this?

Just follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1815112&postcount=6

I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser

Am I missing something?
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?

emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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Do you have WM6.1 on your Kaiser?

emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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I guess I dont know how to activate this feature because I dont seem to have it, if you know the trick to make it work it would be sweet because I cant find it

Firefly, did you back up your sms with PIM Back up and the restored them in the 6.1 rom?
if you did thats why you dont have threaded sms. it seems to be that when sms messages are restored n 6.1, it throws off the threaded sms feature.

Is there a way to close a threaded message or split it into its own thread?
Been having the same "conversation" for a week with the girlfriend and there is no relevence between one message and another.

Do you need Windows Vista to install WM6.1?
I don't have WM 6.1 but the latest WM6 update from HTC for my at&t TILT. It's stable but no threaded SMS app Can you install and flash to WM 6.1 or do you need to do it with a computer running Vista only? Is the SMS superior in WM 6.1? I use SMS daily to communicate and SMS Chat is the only app that has worked for me reliably. Yes the backspace button sometimes does not work and there is no emoticon support but unless you all have another option its sms chat or wm 6.1.

smjoshi said:
I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser
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SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?

I use one of Duttys wm6.1 roms and the threaded sms rocks my socks off

rameses said:
SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?
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Yes here it is -

the sms in 6.1 rocks my socks...thats one of the main reasons why i flashed to 6.1 but in 6.0 i was using vito sms chat which worked quite well for me but i wanted it to be built in and not an external program

I'm quite happy with PocketCM. The new version integrates better between contacts and SMS and Phone better, too.

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Cheers, I'll give it a try.