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FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

SMS log like blackberry?

Hello, I am a very txt heavy person and i was just wondering if anyone knows of an option or software that acts like the blackberry message service, where it shows ALL the texts between you and the person (sorta like the facebook -wall to wall- feature).
Thank you.

Pocket CM does this kinda, maybe not exactly what your looking for but worth a look

Palm SMS is also very good.

Ahhh, you mean threaded SMS conversation!
Well, by default, WM6 doesn't have threading feature on its messaging application.
But if you'd like to thread your SMS, you could use the two alternatives mentioned here. And a few others.
Palm Threading SMS is awesome. I can't give you a link to it unfortunately, but if you snoop around this forum, I'm sure you'll find your way to the file.
Another one that's free, it's developed by a member here, is the IMSMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619
Give PocketCM, Palm (I prefer this), and IMSMS a try. But I find that Palm's Threaded SMS has a very nice (maybe the best) integration to the operating system. Meaning, it's installation on top of (not overwritting the default one, just overlaying) the default messaging application is very nice.

Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
Thanks in advance!

ghaith_d said:
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
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I'd look in Settings -> Sounds & Notifications and change it there. It's not really a program-specific setting, though it may make some changes. I've also found that it doesn't seem like changes stick around through a soft reset (sometimes). I can't explain that, and I'm no guru so it may be my fault anyway.
Austin

Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab

jomo25 said:
Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Thanks jomo25, but the problem persists...i went to sounds & notifications and it shows that there is a sound notification and that it will vibrate with new incoming sms...but it doesnt do that...should i try a soft reset?
and did any of you guys notice that txts were getting delayed because of palm sms? as in...they take longer for you to recieve a text that someone sent?

If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.

jomo25 said:
If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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I did everything you said, but no luck...and i have been notified by my friends that they have sent me several sms's and i never got them at all, let alone have the sms delayed by over 10 minutes (average). I really like the app, but it's causing too many problems so i'm gonna uninstall it and try something else.
Thanks for your help anyway

All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.

grizzley said:
All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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I have the HTC TYTN 2, with the OEM ROM...i have not done 1 mod to it...weird.

Yes, VERY odd. It has worked for many other users as well.

threaded sms??

is there a cab out there that makes the tytn ii have threaded sms much like the iphone??
TIA

No. Nothing like that exists.
Have you considered searching? There has to be at least 4000 threads with this same kind of question in it. Search and find the god dam software. And if you want an Iphone, get an Iphone. Or AIDS. Either would be fine
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Have you considered not wasting so much space? The question may have been noobish but the 3miles of space in your post was even more annoying..

Actually, You're obviously simple so I will perform the search for you. Using your exact terms.
Oh look, 5 threads on the first page with the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359903&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358887&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355634&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328860&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348497&highlight=threaded+sms

Try PocketCM at www.pocketcm.com
Really great SMS replacement and Contacts Manager replacment.

Threaded SMS
I discovered a very reliable threaded SMS client for Pocket PC Phone. It handles both square and rectangular displays. It has some good configuration options for the display and has an excellent popup notification functionality too.
http://www.pocket-sms.com
Downsides are that it only runs on WM 5.0 or better and the license needs to be activated.
Otherwise, a nice simple http://www.pocket-sms.com
Downsides are that it only runs on WM 5.0 or better and the license needs to be activated.
Otherwise, a nice simple application which is not so hot on graphics and presentation but has good functionality/setup opions.

drdingo21 said:
No. Nothing like that exists.
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Pocket CM with plenty of iPhone skins, and CM Keyboard or I forgot the name, have a keyboard that looks exactly like the iPhone.
And if you want, theres a software which cost money cost extreme text. I just use the Palm SMS Threaded, it works great for me.
Buddy, just do searches, there everywhere.

Does the Palm threaded SMS still break MMS support?

drdingo21 said:
No. Nothing like that exists.
Have you considered searching? There has to be at least 4000 threads with this same kind of question in it. Search and find the god dam software. And if you want an Iphone, get an Iphone. Or AIDS. Either would be fine
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Bit strong mate, control yourself!

Girvo said:
Does the Palm threaded SMS still break MMS support?
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Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.

ronfin44 said:
Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.
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Arcsoft MMS4.2.8.1 FTW

ronfin44 said:
Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.
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Hi:
I now have Palm threaded sms, and mms working perfectly too.
The instructions I followed are as follow:
Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.[/QUOTE]
I am using this on AT&T Tilt, I am not sure if it will work on other devices, I believe the proxy cab is only for AT&T devices. You can probably find more info on it if you read through the original post ^^.
Anyway, I hope this helps.

just wait for WM 6.1, includes threaded sms support......i believe it has already leaked and dutty is on his way to releasing a rom for it soon. (a beta is already avail for download)

SMS/Mail confirmation alert

Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?

Lavish P said:
Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?
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This little quirk bothers me too because I want to hit send and then lock the device; unfortunately, when I hit send and lock the device I get a bunch of notifications and the device unlocks itself and random uttones get pressed as its in my pocket.
It may be best to load a WWE rom and sort out the smail using mmslite. Getting JP input working however is another issue.
For the problem with the notifications in softbank's arcsoft mail app, I wonder if there is a registry fix we can do.

solution for successful sent notification(at least for text)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-diamondpro-tweak.html
Go to messages, and disable text messages notifications.

Kevbodian, mjz147,
Thanks, I really appriciate your quick response!!
I checked out that Diamond tweak app and its one hell of an applicaiton!
It seems though, when I disabled the text message notification and soft reset, im still getting those alerts after sending MMS/SMS emails.
Is there something wrong with my device or I may have to do some manual modifications via registry? :\

Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.

kosherpig said:
Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.
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I guess I have bad luck when it comes to disabling notification via Windows.
Unlike the US version, my phone doesnt have just one central location for mail but two (Outlook application - used for PC email & SoftBank Mail - used for SMS and MMS...)
So when I looked under the option menu in Outlook tools, I wasnt able to find any SMS/MMS options...
Im sure theres a registry hack that can be used...im not so sure why the diamond tweak app could apply changes to everything except the "turn off notifications" option though...

Was anyone able to solve this issue?

Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.

Sergio PC said:
Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.
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I currently have 3.3 installed and have used it to disable/enable many features on my Diamond. But it seems after I disable the 'SMS delivery notification' and 'SMS sent notification" fields (and soft reboot), it is still showing the sent notifications after sms/s!mail is sent...
As Kevbodian was saying, maybe there is a special reg hack that needs to be done under softbank's arcsoft mail app.

could somebody figure out what change is made when that notification is turned off and turn this into a cab file? the only thing that bothers me is the sound. i dont mind the bubble or the little icon on the top telling me that my sms is sent. thanks

this one is simple and right to the point install it and it doesnt give you the message, you dont have tons of menus to navigate through just that install
also i am simply reposting this app i did not develop it or design it credit goes where credit is due

so this turns off the sound AND the notifications also? thanks

yep no sound and no pop up message after sending one
i hope it helps

almost tempted to figure out how cab files work (arent they just reg edits?) and maybe try to see if i can change it myself. i like having the notifications (bubble and little icon on the top) but the sound can be annoying at times,
Edit1: also i just installed advanced config 3.3 and the notification thing works for me.
Edit2: also search "kraiser tweak" and you will find it has settings for this. a lot of settings actually for just the thing you are talking about. now we just need to find the edits in the registry because i dont really like having 2 configuration programs on my phone. (advance config, and kraiser tweak)
Edit3: ok i found this on the wiki....Disable SMS Sent Notification
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
.....so does this mean if it was changed to a 2,3,or 4 that would change the action of it? im really trying to look into this.....if you cant tell haha

Text message resend..? Help?

Is there any cab file out there for the AT&T tilt that would allow a message that can't be sent, due to no service, or receiving another text at the same time, ect... Is there any cab that would allow me a message resend button as opposed to having to open the drafts, open the text, send the text, open back up the inbox...?
If this doesn't exist, can anyone capable of writing code create me this hack? It would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!

windows mobile 6.1 + "threaded" text messaging
if you are using a WinMo 6.1 ROM, threaded text messaging is enabled by default (if not enabled, use KaiserTweak to enable threaded messaging).
i clearly remember (because it has happened with me TWICE) that the threaded messaging view will display any unsent messages (within the thread) in RED color and will provide a clickable link labeled "Try again"...the function of the link is self explanatory
the combination of events you are talking about (sending a message exactly when receiving a message and/or a phone call) is RARE but it DOES happen...fortunately, i don't mind using the threaded messaging view and i get the resend link (in case of transmission failure for whatever reason) as a bonus
hope this helps...good luck!

It's not necessiarily rare to me as I text all the time, haha. I know what you're talking about, but I don't like threaded text messaging. It becomes slow and sluggish after a while. I highly appreciate the suggestion though!
Does anybody know of a program that would allow this tweak?

Quite some time since I used Arcsoft but didnt they have a resend feature (could be some of the later ed.)? Or am I wrong and it was a feature on 6.1? If it was on 6.1 you could still use it for just that by switching off treaded view.

I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?

yeahmanitsme said:
I do have arcsoft MMS, but how would i go about using it to turn off threaded view SMS and keep the "try again" or resend button?
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Ok hold on, will make a cab for you.

Enjoy !
Raiisak`s En/Disable Treaded SMS

Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!

yeahmanitsme said:
Thanks a ton for making that, but I have kaiser tweak and I am able to en/disable threaded SMS. Thanks tho.
Is there a cab that you could make me to add a popup window to my screen when a message is unable to send that simple let's me resend it instead of automatically move it to the drafts? This seems to happen alot seeing as I text alot. Thanks in advanced for anybody can help!
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Reason I made the cab was to simply add on/off the treaded sms whitout making any change to the notification status for you by simply create this DWORD in youre reg:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:00000000
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Arcsoft_MMS 5_0_31_81 w/ treaded ON had the function to ask if you wanted to resend sms/mms if failed. Try to install that and run my cab and see if the red text comes up comes if the sms fails to send. Chance are that this will solve much of youre problem, other than that I would recomend to try another radio if you have severe signal issues

Sorry for the stupid question but um when you say new radio... You mean....?

If you use custom rom they come whit variouse radio, not always will the given radio work smoothly in youre country and phone. I would read up on this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 and also the OP of the used rom to see if there is any recomended radio for youre phone or country. If none found I would ask in that tread. GL

Is there any way to auto resend a failed message? either for a certain time or an X amount of resends?. My phone constantly goes in and out of service. I dont want to have to keep my phone in my hand waiting for service to kick in then resend.