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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

SMS log like blackberry?

Hello, I am a very txt heavy person and i was just wondering if anyone knows of an option or software that acts like the blackberry message service, where it shows ALL the texts between you and the person (sorta like the facebook -wall to wall- feature).
Thank you.

Pocket CM does this kinda, maybe not exactly what your looking for but worth a look

Palm SMS is also very good.

Ahhh, you mean threaded SMS conversation!
Well, by default, WM6 doesn't have threading feature on its messaging application.
But if you'd like to thread your SMS, you could use the two alternatives mentioned here. And a few others.
Palm Threading SMS is awesome. I can't give you a link to it unfortunately, but if you snoop around this forum, I'm sure you'll find your way to the file.
Another one that's free, it's developed by a member here, is the IMSMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333619
Give PocketCM, Palm (I prefer this), and IMSMS a try. But I find that Palm's Threaded SMS has a very nice (maybe the best) integration to the operating system. Meaning, it's installation on top of (not overwritting the default one, just overlaying) the default messaging application is very nice.

Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
Thanks in advance!

ghaith_d said:
Thanks alot for the help, but the only problem with Palm SMS (im using shogunmark vrs.) is that it doesnt vibrate or notify me with a sound when i get a text message...so i have to always keep checking to see if i got any new ones.
Is there a fix for this? or am i using a wrong version or something?
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I'd look in Settings -> Sounds & Notifications and change it there. It's not really a program-specific setting, though it may make some changes. I've also found that it doesn't seem like changes stick around through a soft reset (sometimes). I can't explain that, and I'm no guru so it may be my fault anyway.
Austin

Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab

jomo25 said:
Umm, yeah, there is a separate notification event for the Palm threaded SMS than the normal message. But you set it in the same place. And yes, you can assign any ringtone to it or have it vibrate or both like any other notification.
It may not be obvious, cuz it gets cut off in the listbox. See selected Event in the attached pic.
As mentioned above. You get there via:
Settings | Sounds & Notifications | Notifications tab
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Thanks jomo25, but the problem persists...i went to sounds & notifications and it shows that there is a sound notification and that it will vibrate with new incoming sms...but it doesnt do that...should i try a soft reset?
and did any of you guys notice that txts were getting delayed because of palm sms? as in...they take longer for you to recieve a text that someone sent?

If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.

jomo25 said:
If you've done that, then I don't know what the issue is. I've been using Palm threaded app for a long time and I get my SMS's "on time" and it does notify me per my settings. If anything, an SMS might be delayed by about 5 seconds. But no more than that.
You can try a soft reset. No harm in doing that. But it shouldn't matter. (Just an FYI - I do use MemMaid and I do a soft reset maybe every other day to keep the memory "clean". Just like a PC needs a reboot occasionally, most WM devices benefit similarly.)
One las thing - I keep the Palm app "minimized". I don't completely close it. If it's not running, it'll still fire up but could also delay getting the message by another 10 secs or so, cuz it needs to fire up the app. So, it's OK to close it completely, but since memory on the Kaiser is generous, its OK to leave it open also. And make sure not to completely close it immediately after sending a message. Sometimes it'll get stuck in the Outbox. Other than, no issues, with Palm, and I send and receive dozens of messages a day.
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I did everything you said, but no luck...and i have been notified by my friends that they have sent me several sms's and i never got them at all, let alone have the sms delayed by over 10 minutes (average). I really like the app, but it's causing too many problems so i'm gonna uninstall it and try something else.
Thanks for your help anyway

All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.

grizzley said:
All of your problems seem to be phone/carrier specific; that's my guess. Threaded SMS works fine on my ATT Tilt. I get all text's, fast, and with sound/vibrate notification.
Maybe it's your modded ROM.
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I have the HTC TYTN 2, with the OEM ROM...i have not done 1 mod to it...weird.

Yes, VERY odd. It has worked for many other users as well.

SMS/Mail confirmation alert

Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?

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Just got a new diamond here in Tokyo connected the Softbank network.
It seems whenever I send out an email via Outlook/SMS/S! Mail(Service that allows SMS-like mail to be sent to regular email accounts or other cellphone providers...most people use it here in Japan) I get a "Your mail has been successfully sent" email confirmation everytime I send out a mail. For someone who uses all three services frequently, it tends to get a little annoying
I've downloaded many tweaks and modification applications for the diamond but it seems I'm still not able to find the workaround...
Does anyone know the cure for this or is this a known problem?
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This little quirk bothers me too because I want to hit send and then lock the device; unfortunately, when I hit send and lock the device I get a bunch of notifications and the device unlocks itself and random uttones get pressed as its in my pocket.
It may be best to load a WWE rom and sort out the smail using mmslite. Getting JP input working however is another issue.
For the problem with the notifications in softbank's arcsoft mail app, I wonder if there is a registry fix we can do.

solution for successful sent notification(at least for text)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-diamondpro-tweak.html
Go to messages, and disable text messages notifications.

Kevbodian, mjz147,
Thanks, I really appriciate your quick response!!
I checked out that Diamond tweak app and its one hell of an applicaiton!
It seems though, when I disabled the text message notification and soft reset, im still getting those alerts after sending MMS/SMS emails.
Is there something wrong with my device or I may have to do some manual modifications via registry? :\

Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.

kosherpig said:
Tried to just disable em in Windows?
Start/Messaging/Menu/Tools/Options/SMS MMS
There you can disable notifications. Atleast for SMS messages for me it works.
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I guess I have bad luck when it comes to disabling notification via Windows.
Unlike the US version, my phone doesnt have just one central location for mail but two (Outlook application - used for PC email & SoftBank Mail - used for SMS and MMS...)
So when I looked under the option menu in Outlook tools, I wasnt able to find any SMS/MMS options...
Im sure theres a registry hack that can be used...im not so sure why the diamond tweak app could apply changes to everything except the "turn off notifications" option though...

Was anyone able to solve this issue?

Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.

Sergio PC said:
Did you guys try Advanced Config v3.3?
It has a section devoted to messages tweaks.
It does have a tweak that disables notifications.
Greets.
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I currently have 3.3 installed and have used it to disable/enable many features on my Diamond. But it seems after I disable the 'SMS delivery notification' and 'SMS sent notification" fields (and soft reboot), it is still showing the sent notifications after sms/s!mail is sent...
As Kevbodian was saying, maybe there is a special reg hack that needs to be done under softbank's arcsoft mail app.

could somebody figure out what change is made when that notification is turned off and turn this into a cab file? the only thing that bothers me is the sound. i dont mind the bubble or the little icon on the top telling me that my sms is sent. thanks

this one is simple and right to the point install it and it doesnt give you the message, you dont have tons of menus to navigate through just that install
also i am simply reposting this app i did not develop it or design it credit goes where credit is due

so this turns off the sound AND the notifications also? thanks

yep no sound and no pop up message after sending one
i hope it helps

almost tempted to figure out how cab files work (arent they just reg edits?) and maybe try to see if i can change it myself. i like having the notifications (bubble and little icon on the top) but the sound can be annoying at times,
Edit1: also i just installed advanced config 3.3 and the notification thing works for me.
Edit2: also search "kraiser tweak" and you will find it has settings for this. a lot of settings actually for just the thing you are talking about. now we just need to find the edits in the registry because i dont really like having 2 configuration programs on my phone. (advance config, and kraiser tweak)
Edit3: ok i found this on the wiki....Disable SMS Sent Notification
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
.....so does this mean if it was changed to a 2,3,or 4 that would change the action of it? im really trying to look into this.....if you cant tell haha

Can't open SMS in Threaded SMS

Hi all..
I've tried searching to no avail.
Only today I can't seem to open any SMS in Threaded SMS mode. Whenever I tried to use Reply or Open any sms, nothing happens.
After disabling Threaded SMS, I'm able to open any SMS.
Any1 encounter such problems before?
I'm using PDA Corner V19 (I think) Win 6.1.
Had no problems for so many mths using the ROM.
Thanks in advance.

just an update of what I did before the problems started:
think problem started when I edited threaded_sms.htm to delete the word count as per what I'd read from http://www.fuzemobility.com/page/4/
here's part of the post...
So you can do this tweak in one of two ways. You can overwrite the file thread_sms.htm with bradyonly’s file (or if you’re using 6.5 then use hibby50’s) or you can just do it yourself. The DIY method is pretty simple. Just open up thread_sms.htm (you can copy this file to your desktop and open it in notepad or if you’re using Total Commander locate the file and then press the pen/paper icon at the bottom and it will open in notepad on your phone). Then locate the line that begins “<Inbox: content id=”COMPSESUBJECT” width=”98%”… and delete the single word “count” from that line then hit ‘save’ (or if you used your PC then overwrite the file) and soft reset your phone. And you’re done.
I did make a copy of the original threaded_sms.htm file. Once my threaded sms had problems, I had copied back the original file.
But it still didn't work...

i have problem with my message is can't open new message anh reply
So. how do it fixing?

I had the same problem few days ago.. I received two sms and after them I had immediatelly received an mms, so all of the previous sms were gone and the mms was looking as the first message in the conversation. But there were still two unread messages.. I wasn´t able to get to them until I turned off threaded sms via registry.. I didn´t know what to do, so I had to do HR

I am having the same issue on a Niki 100, anyone with any idea of the solution?
I hadn't editied anything, just flashed the ROM and I can only use SMS in non-threaded mode.
DT

I miss having threaded sms haha
cos it's a good way to keep track of my sms chat conversations wif my contacts

oriki said:
I miss having threaded sms haha
cos it's a good way to keep track of my sms chat conversations wif my contacts
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If you miss it that much hard-reset is the solution.