Well...for those of you techs who haven't yet found out. Ver. 2 of TouchFlo has been leaked per Engadget. The images look pretty sweet! I have attached a link to the article from Engadget and a download link from HTC Insider that supposedly has the new version. I'm no programmer so I'm posting it here so hopefully one of you geniuses can get it working for testing on the wing. Let me know if any of you come up with something. Thanks!
Leak Article
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...nila-leaks-out-are-you-brave-enough-to-insta/
TouchFlo Download
http://htcinsider.blogspot.com/
Edit:After further reading it is still in development. Well....at least we can get a glimpse for whats coming. I did find some people that got it working but only in VGA mode.
Seems like its still in development stage and not complete yet. No point installing it.
Regards,
Carty..
On Polaris there is alreaddy a Touchflo2 version. But as some other apps from different chips - this is also not working on herald - at the moment...
is it still a cube????? that has like how many 'sides' now? it looks like it's a slider instead.. but i like my cube, even if i don't use it that often hehe.
uggh.. i'm gonna have to change all my blackish charcoaly colors to have whhhooooole lot more white to match.... :'(
meh, I'll install it now and see how it goes...
Damn, its a 10 meg install...
Gotta do clear-storage...
won't run. oh well.
So far reviews show it to be EXTREMELY slow on the few devices that it does run on. It's probably alpha software for a hardware accelerated phone.
ivanmmj said:
So far reviews show it to be EXTREMELY slow on the few devices that it does run on. It's probably alpha software for a hardware accelerated phone.
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This would be a great addition to the Kaiser once they straighten out the video driver issue. Whats the bounty up to now 6k?.
ivanmmj said:
So far reviews show it to be EXTREMELY slow on the few devices that it does run on. It's probably alpha software for a hardware accelerated phone.
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this might be a little off topic , but is there a way to get the NEW manila on an OMNIA 2 ?
Im a huuuge HTC fan but right now im runing the Samsung UI and i hate it lol ,, stupid wigets ,, could ig et the HTC UI?
here's a relatively off-topic question...
why did they call it manila? hopefully someone can satisfy my curiosity with the name!
Related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LRbkHOllLA&eurl=http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6755.html
soo is this available as an update
if that was a real sales pitch count me out - a poor attempt to try and mimic the iPhone, they should innovate like their slogan instead of following behind.
Only new feature is the zoom - but honestly how many use your pda as a camera/picture viewer. Now if they also upgraded the camera so as to be on par with nokia's lens' and the n95's spec then I would agree with the R&D in this area.
forgot about the rotate feature...something tells me it would be easier to press the rotate soft key.....
overall you can tell that I am not happy with this upgrade. Sure it can't do no harm but I think that their time could have been spent researching new features yet to be seen by Windows Mobile.
how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
that cube looks pretty nice...lovin the skin. I am actually working on my own cube, trying to make a 6 sided cube (although i'm startin to think it will become quite aggravating to find a side quickly if you are in a rush...whaddya think) with some custom animations. recently inspired to make it into a matrix theme.
not sure if you have seen this thread but it makes it quite simple. YOu should try and implement it into your kaiser port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325424
and btw in regards to the first post the gurus over at pocket cm seemed to have pretty much mimic most of the features from the new touchflo in their pocketcm picture viewer. Give em some time and it will be better than HTC's version, im sure of it.
I know of that link. thats where i got the one i posted
I am folowing that thread to see if there is anything I want to use.
BTW. having more "sides" on the cube is ok idea, but making one that wont kill memory is a tough one my brother in law is a compter programmer, and im talking with him about a multisided cube, maybe there is coming something cool from that part in a while but no promises
about the kaiser port, we will see, first I have to make it work flawless before thinking about what to put in it.
sounds good, keep us all posted on any future developments.
as for the original topic...we all know HTC use Qualcomm chipsets in the past. Maybe with this new deal of AMD liscensing the new graphics technology introduced in the xbox360 (Unified Shader Architecture) to Qualcomm, we should be able to be able to have the memory from the animations use a dedicated graphics card (graphics card in ppc is not new -i think the flame has one)....just imagine OpenGL 2.0 running ported on a pocket pc. Possibilities are unimaginable right now. I think this is where HTC's R&D money should be going....but for all I know its already in the making...one can only hope
yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
itje said:
yeah that would be a giant step forward.
Im hoping its not so, but im afraid they will take tiny mouse steps forward, just so they can sell more phones.....they know we are addicted, and will buy.....lol
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yeh for sure, its proven already that they only include one maybe two major upgrades per phone. Much more profitable marketing scheme. Just gotta know which phones to get, the people who purchase the Tytn II are going to be getting a pretty good phone that should b around for long. Where as a phone like the HTC Touch will get outdated pretty quick (Touch Dual already in production.) I'm sure when phones begin to be released with graphics cards built in they will surely only make them w/o keyboards, then another one with keyboard...then some "New and Improved Graphics Card" that doesn't waste as much battery (which they probably had from the begining.)
I guess you just gotta know to wait for the last one...
itje said:
how about a cube like this on your herald?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1552994&postcount=292
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
Sweet looks cool. I would love that for my phone. When will ver 2 be out? I have a problem with touthflo. I can use the cube once then if i try again it wont load. It just flips up then flips away. I have to soft reset the phone to use it again. Is there a fix for this? I have this prob with any touchflo rom. Even my mda with touchflo does this.
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Guess the whole cube thing is useless. all of these skins mean nothing - when you use your device, and not just flicking this cube back and forth for hours
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The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
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The cube thing IS useless ... but you know that EVERYONE wants to have the new touchflo 2 the moment its available .... don't ya? haha
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as far as i understand, TouchFlo contains not only Сube. As for me - i want only finger scrolling. And it is still imperfect
Coolsmartphone are doing a day by day review with a guy using it for a week. At least we'll find out about things like battery life!
days 1 and 2 are up, and u can ask quesions in the forum post for each day.
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/
Great review
Thx! Really Really nice review! Take a look ppl!
I for one have confirmed to buying this phone after watching this video. The video
showed that the keys are very responsive when dialing numbers, which is really important I think.
yeah, and you can ask him questions to answer in the next days review. If you can't be bothered to register to add a question, just ask here and i'll post it there.
I don't think he has been asked, what Version Tomtom Navigator he tried on it, and if this was delivered with the device or did he install it on his own?
lots of people have already asked that in day3..
Check here first:
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12471
Day 4
Day 4 has just been uploaded...
@ someone1234,
Could you ask the following questions on my behalf, many thanks...
1. During your day 4 video you COPIED a picture into a subdirectory called new folder and though it showed up in the TouchFlo 3D app. However you should have MOVED the picture rather than COPYING it as the app will have picked up the original, or you should have seen the image twice. Could you re-do the test as a MOVE rather than COPY.
2. Could you try some games on the screen to see how they behave under VGA, try worms world party from jamdat if you can download the demo, and see if its easy to aim, you should have 6/7 steps between horizontal and vertical aim.
3. Using TomTom could you compare the calculating route time between two devices calculating the same route. Also brows the map on the diamond, and zoom fully out from street level to the whole of the map (UK or Europe) to let us see how quickly it re-renders the map.
Did anyone else notice the HORRIBLE video playback? I did. It looks just as bad as the Kaiser. WTF!?
juiceppc said:
Did anyone else notice the HORRIBLE video playback? I did. It looks just as bad as the Kaiser. WTF!?
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You need a media player that can utilise the hardware acceleration of the Qualcomm chipset, such as Core Player 1.2
posted!
btw did everyone notice in day 4, it seems all 5 UMTS bands are supported
Did they manage to put the correct antenna's in or maybe its just because its a test handset.
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@ someone1234,
Could you ask the following questions on my behalf, many thanks...
1. During your day 4 video you COPIED a picture into a subdirectory called ......
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juiceppc said:
Did anyone else notice the HORRIBLE video playback? I did. It looks just as bad as the Kaiser. WTF!?
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Yeah, but as imranbashir_uk said, Windows Media Player is not the best software to use. Does anyone know if the phone in these reviews has the same software as the version that will be sold? If it does, that video problem might put the most lazy consumers off getting it.
nope
havent u seen the splash screens, or video 1, it says test rom, not for sale on it
some athenas were shipped with test roms, but that was only by compusa who were closing down i think.
but shipping what is their biggest release so far of 08, with great new enhancements without being complete would be utterly stupid [wait isnt that what happened with kaiser video drivers? ]
Rory
No that was test firmware only. It says so when he powers up the device. Also I don’t think the full firmware is going to be any better unless they can somehow hack windows media player to utilise the hardware acceleration of the chipset.
To visualise what I’m talking about think about windows just after a fresh install, the resolution is VGA, and the colour depth is only 16-Bit, its only after you install the drivers for your graphics card (Radeon) that you get to actually utilise the hardware.
In terms of the Diamond, Core Player 1.2 recognises the enabled graphics acceleration within the Qualcomm chipset and the software is able to fully utilise it.
yep and its worth paying whatever it costs because it utilised my athenas imageon too.. [i dont think that has drivers either]
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nope
havent u seen the splash screens, or video 1, it says test rom
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Yeah, obviously those would be changed (and yes, I did see them, so please stop treating me like a retard - why would I have asked that question if I had not seen them?), but I'm not familiar with how much these ROMs change between test and final versions. For some companies that change is very small, whereas for others (Planetside) there can be a lot of change.
Also, I've finished watching day 4 now, and I think the Touch Diamond did fairly well in the battery test. Obviously it lost, but it only used roughly 33% more battery power than the other phone and he was using them pretty heavily.
Won’t change that much unfortunately, most of HTC’s software is modular hence the reason it can be easily ported. The main difference I guess would be that the latest AKU of WM 6.1 will be incorporated.
If you think about it, its not in HTC’s interest to send out poor quality software to reviewers as most peoples judgments will be based on these reviews until they get to play with a mates version who was a early adopter.
Meh. Sendo sent out a phone to reviewers and subsequently went bust.
well another example is debug builds of all the exe's which spam logs with information about which functions are running, and contain extra structures to hold debug info. So you never really can be sure.
I'm sure that HTC will continue to tweak the rom with updates for a few months after release at the least.
Generally agree that they will continue to tweak the ROM, but would they really send debug builds to reviewers? Hmmm not too sure about that one...
Hey all,
I don't know how many people have used the new D3D drivers yet, but I just did it with an old Dutty's 6.1 Cube ROM, and oh my God it's like night and day! Just figured I would spam with this fact. Have a nice day .
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Hey all,
I don't know how many people have used the new D3D drivers yet, but I just did it with an old Dutty's 6.1 Cube ROM, and oh my God it's like night and day! Just figured I would spam with this fact. Have a nice day .
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Are you sure it's not dutty's that is fast?
I think he meant to say the D3D drivers made the cube 'faster' than it was already.
as fast as Winterface... like can I hold the cube in the middle?... lol prolly not cuz of software, but cube was pretty fast either way... can u give us more specifications so we can try it on ours too... like which cube etc...
I'm using slither's cube, and whether it's my imagination or not, it definitely seems faster. Maybe i'll take a video of both when i get the time, and make a real comparison.
This probably should be in the Kaiser Software forum, just for future reference. I'm sure a mod will move it for you though.
skatdawg said:
I'm using slither's cube, and whether it's my imagination or not, it definitely seems faster. Maybe i'll take a video of both when i get the time, and make a real comparison.
This probably should be in the Kaiser Software forum, just for future reference. I'm sure a mod will move it for you though.
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which one? his c++ one, or his flash lite one, because i like his c++ one more
also i thought that these drivers didnt work for full-screen apps ?
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which one? his c++ one, or his flash lite one, because i like his c++ one more
also i thought that these drivers didnt work for full-screen apps ?
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That is what i thought also. It could be the rom i'm using to Garmin's V2. I'm using his uno cube with the flash lite bundle. The pages flip almost instantly, it's very nice.
mbarvian said:
which one? his c++ one, or his flash lite one, because i like his c++ one more
also i thought that these drivers didnt work for full-screen apps ?
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lawls, no. The C++ cube was created for the sole reason that there was no 3D acceleration (until recently). I'm talking about the actual cube. It's like greased lightning.
And technically this could go in software or ROM development, since D3D drivers I would consider part of the ROM and not software.
bout time i got a new rom i think as this will not work on my current
Dutty's rom is the cube from the Touch Dual. The FPS Cube. It has always been fast. You can edit the fastnes (fps) in the register....
It does not have anything to do with the drivers.
ahh...I'm a tard. I havent used the cube in so long i didnt remember. Poo. Someone close this thread!
The drivers are only active for D3D applications. Cubes do not use D3D.
For now, only a few applications use D3D (mostly games).
After Touch (Elf) I bought an Iphone 2G, sold the Iphone in favor of the Nokia E71 (better GPS software for my neck of the woods!)
Dusted of my old Elf, downloaded a rom from this forum, to see where this TouchFlo was all about....
Hmmmm, not bad. Used my Nokia as a bluetooth GPS module for the Elf, and found some software...
Oh. Thats nice. Lets see whats new from HTC?
So I fell in love with the new Touch Pro2 through youtube, but it was not available yet. Oh Boy.
Can I wait a few more months?
No.
Hmmm, TouchHD in the mean time?
Ok.
Already when the HD was on its way to my house I read this forum, to see what was going on.
Lots of nice things, abut I resisted HardSPL'ing my HD for 5 days, while wading through the often chaotic posts and new releases while playing with colored icons.
But then, I couldn't resist. First tried a radio, you have to start simple. 1.25 is not ok. No GPS Bars. 1.10 Works. Don't really see a difference.
Yesterday I tried most popular roms. All of them have their greatness, but also sad bugs making the HD a strange thing at times. Not to mention the often very personal customisations made....
Enough. No more. All I want is some extra speed. My stock rom is actually fine. I don't need rotating screens. or 90% 95% or claimed 100% Topazes or Rhodiums, where Thumbcal doesn't work.
Who wants a Topium calendar where the finger is too thick after two beatuiful screens?
Standard Manila is fine, if ThumbCal is included.
I extracted my own rom, and had the nice cfc_gui.exe make my Manila work with compressed graphics, and cooked it.
"Borrowed" the Ramdisk from another rom, and made it work. System and Opera are Very Volatile now
Had SKtools set the HD to performance.
I have a bit of extra speed, I think...
Thanks Guys, you know who you are.
Back to work, and waiting for the Pro2. (and the announced 1000mhz Qualcom, but thats for next year. I hope.)
No more flashing, for now.
ahahah, i doubt it...
This sh#$t is really addicted.
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hell of a rant................
huh?
i just read that twice...without sounding rude or anythng, what was the purpose in writing that?
it was no purpose, i think. Its like report called "my life with HD".
But no more flashing....man...i doubt it
Friday celebrations have started early in this wonderfully useful thread!
Agree.
Only one thing I would like to ask: how did you manage to "borrow" the RAM disk?
Can you lend me one?
I can understand. I use to have a Polaris and really found advantage in flashing it : new interface, faster response times and especially : no regressions
Currently, I don't feel the same with Blackstone Roms. So, mine will waiting to be deflowered.
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Agree.
Only one thing I would like to ask: how did you manage to "borrow" the RAM disk?
Can you lend me one?
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no sorry.
I still use it.
But you can have one from onkolog. He has plenty, first flash his rom. He doesn't give the dll if you ask him.
Then replace the dll found in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382944
with onkologs dll, and you have a ramdisk. 16mb doesn't get noticed by the HD.
Flashjunkies. A phone should work.
Hmm, Iphone 3G? In most cases one button press (or slide) less to reach what I want..
Or can I disable my all my bzzz buttons, I press them too much by accident, scaring the **** out of me...
Gede said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382944
He doesn't give the dll if you ask him.
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What do you mean?)))
I use RamDisk from your link)))
Its different (in size). I downloaded the dll from that post, and it didn't work, ??
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Its different (in size). I downloaded the dll from that post, and it didn't work, ??
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It works if you have correct hands))))
I use same
Windows mobile have its own "theme management" in setting there is an option for Today Plugins etc...
on HD2 is HTC Sense as default, and its one hefty plugin...
so as newer WM6.5.X Carousel/titanium
I'm wondering if someone can make Windows Phone 7 look-a-like plugin that will make home screen to look like WP7, without installing WAD2, Throttle Launcher, SPB etc...
just an idea, i thought using something that part of an OS may make it run smoother...
i found this, but its a bit messy and confusing to use... even on HD2 large screen everything appears to be cramped together...
RE:
Soon, very soon- been working on it the last few days when iv managed time, lemme insert some quick icons over the place holders and get at least a screen worth of panels decent looking and ill post some screens late tonight/early tomorrow!
Could use some help with accessing, displaying, selecting multiple contacts in titanium if anyone can help!
i can help u with testing, reporting bugs, hosting files (rapidshare and few other hostings), any graphic editing.... but im useless in programming if that what u mean by help
let me know if i can help in any way other then code writing/editing....
looking forward to ur release
you might want to have a look at this>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6273452#post6273452
oh, it's not W7. sorry
This is a great idea! I have been looking for something like this aswell. But I'm not good at programming or anything so I'm afraid I can't be of much help
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Soon, very soon- been working on it ... ... ill post some screens late tonight/early tomorrow!
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how is it going ? hope to see it soon
any screem shots of preview whats it gona look like maybe, if it not ready for release yet
Gwahh! Lame i know
Totally suffered the sprint diamond screen splitting from the digitizer, plus had to wait to get paid to fix, struggling student and its my only web, blah blah (more excuses i know )
anyways, here are the screen, disappointing i know, but editing most of it through word mobile on the phone i dont think is half bad-
nice progress
is the image actually displaying where it shuld ?
do the phone, messeging etc have count on the when recive sms, missed call etc...
whant to share a beta ?
also off topic, what do u do it in ? Visual Studio ?
i also notice u editing Carousel/titanium i think, would it not be more functional to do it as from scratch ? ( i know it prob a lot harder, but it would allow you to have more features in future releases, maybe facebook integration one day lol...)
but keep up the good work...
P.S.
PM me, i want to know how can a start learning programming for WM and piratically today plug-ins, what tools i will need etc...
PM me you MSN or Skype if u dont mind.
i done A-level Computing and know a little bit (very little) of Visual Basic, and (unfortunately) having to learn Java for my Uni course.
mfgrdfct said:
Totally suffered the sprint diamond screen splitting from the digitizer, plus had to wait to get paid to fix, struggling student and its my only web, blah blah (more excuses i know )
anyways, here are the screen, disappointing i know, but editing most of it through word mobile on the phone i dont think is half bad-
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This looks pretty awesome already. Esp if it's just a theme for today plugin. Kudos on the hard work. I look forward to trying this out
here's a "stand-alone" WP7 theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5868312
working already but still a little laggy on my X1. very promising though
waiting for WVGA version