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TMC for Athena

Hi there,
Has anyone made a TMC device working on the Athena?
I tried some version of the GNS FM9 adpaters but nothing worked.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Have a good start into 2008.
greetz,
DAx

I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!

adamelphick said:
I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!
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Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas

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Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
hmm... thank for the link. That would be really the last chance to get TMC working for the ameo.
FYI, I use Mobile Navigator 6 and it fixes the gps signal really quick. I also use the Quick GPS and when I start MN6 the GPS signal fixes within 1 minute.
Greetz,
DAx

AndreasF said:
Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino

gigino said:
Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino
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Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas

AndreasF said:
Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
sorry to trouble you again but we are using the igo plus and the same gps as you the GNS 5843 but we can get the gps to work but not the TMC everytime we try to connect the TMC the pda just frezzes like the port has a conflict.
We have only been trying this in landscape mode can you tell me in which mode you are using the igo Portrait or Landscape.
Please can you help me in get this to work because I really like the Igo plus more the any anothe navigators.
Thanks
Gigino

Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas

AndreasF said:
Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
thanks for your help I well try again over this weekend.
They is another problem that I have and I've tryed everything but cannot resolve it.
I use the Igo Plus in landscape mode when I'm using the map and I get a reminder or a call the screen revertes to portrait mode and after accept the call or dismissing the reminder all the buttons in the Igo software goes all funny.
Do you have the same problem or have you find a way to correct this problem.
Thanks
Gigino

Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!

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Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!
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Hi,
I can confirm this also, the screen is inverted meens, that it looks ok, but you you have to touch it in an inverted way. I.e. the button is on the left upper corner of the screen, but you to click in the right lower area. Thats really strange. I've have the feeling, that this happens very often, if you use the Map view instead of the cockpit view.
@ gigino: I use the ameo with a brodit mount without the keyboard, so I don't have this problem.
In my last message is a little mistake, you have to switch OFF (and not ON) the automatic access in the GPS settings.
Regards
Andreas

about bluetooth gps receivers

i plan to buy a bluetooth gps receiver.
i just have some question before buying one
- will any bluetooth gps receiver work with niki? are there known receivers that will not work?
- i currently have a mapking software on niki and a map of my city, is the bluetooth gps receiver all i need for it to work? by work i mean it'll tell you where you are, where to go, etc...
thanks!

I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).

dekoning said:
I have an adapt AD-350 bluetooth GPS receiver.
Works like a dime! It 'only' cost me 50 euro's (dixons, the netherlands).
Works with any app that can use GPS, (for all I know).
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looks nice thanks dude! i'll consider that brand, i hope they sell it in taiwan

my holux GPS (i forget the number) works great.

i use this : http://www.htcdirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=289&currency=GBP
solar powered sirf iii on my copilot7, all good

I use an Oasis BT GPS, wich are no longer available under that brand name but it works perfect with my downloaded tom tom software
you can find a lot on pdashop.be
succes!!

I use a Globalsat BT-338 and its wonderful.

I like the idea of a solar powered bluetooth gps
anyways thanks guys! will check out those you suggested! buying one tom

Navman B10
I just paired a NAVMAN B10 the $35 special from Expansys US. It is a SIRFIII and so far it works awesome. Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....

kipmast said:
Cant really see why it was so cheap. Yet.....
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maybe made in China? lol

Can I use these with Google Map? I mean that I don't need TomTom or another program at all?

I use this, "http://www.bluenext.co.uk/bluetooth-gps/bn-806f-bluetooth-gps.html"
works real good, it's real fast, good battery and have the last chip sirf star III, and of course all this for a good price

How to setup
Could someone tell me how to setup GPS connection over Bluetooth? I have a Nokia GPS which was working on normal HTC Touch and I just can't get it work on Nike... This is what I did:
1. Turn on GPS
2. Turn on Bluetooth on Nike
3. Search for BT device, Nokia is found
4. Enter code
5. Select serial port (the only port offered)
6. I create an outgoing port (e.g. COM2) for Nokia (in settings/connections/setting/bluetooth)
7. I set GPS program port to the previously created outgoing port in setting/system/External GPS)
8. I set GPS port number in iGO...
What did I wrong? Please help me.
Thank you in advance

That's all correct. I can't see what's the problem there.

Me neither... On my old iPaq (WinMo 2003) is a lot easier to connect as there is a connect feature in Bluetooth manager. In WinMo 2006 there is no such possibility... How can a bluetooth connection to GPS initialized without iGO? How could I connect from Windows to test the connection?

mapping software
i live in the us where can i get a free mapping software with map? because i dont want to access any data...

Kaiser + TMC on IGO 8 is it possible???

I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.

hnic8705 said:
I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.
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No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12

suntzu said:
No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12
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Thanks for the speedy response.
that being said is there an alternative that anyone know on how to configure traffic with Igo8 or to automatically reroute if im using google or something in the background.

You can use TMC with IGO but it would require you to get at bluetooth TMC receiver och a bluetooth GPS with integrated TMC but the ones I´ve found are quite expensive and not easy to find.

oh ok thanks cause i still been searching all over the net for one.

From another thread in the Kaiser accessories forum:
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GNS are advertising a launch of TMC only receivers.
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=72&L=1
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here's the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400813

If you are in the UK, don't forget TMC is a paid service... unlike the rest of the world.

Okay I emailed the people over at GNS about the bluetooth TMC Transmitter that plugs into a cars lighter plug.
This is what I asked...
When will the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C be available for sale, and is it compatible with the HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt), Igo 8 and TMC signals in the USA?
Thanks.
This was the reply I recieved.
Dear Mr. Gerado,
thank you for your inquiry. The ramp up time for production of the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C will be in the end of october 2008. The GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT is compaible with HTC Kaiser and works also with iGO8 (manual configuration). The GNS TMC receivers support the TMC service in the USA. But it depends on the navigation software (maps), if the received USA TMC data can decoded and used in the navigation software.
Best regards
Gerd Sept
So it looks like in November or so I will be ordering me another "toy" as my wife called my gadget pr0n..

http://www.jr.com/magellan/pe/MGN_TRAFFICLINK/
So much cheaper, but no clue it it'll work w/ phones.

i had tpc rom and the igo worked fine

TMC under IGO 8 for Htc Diamond ??

Hi everyone,
Does anyone tried to use TMC under Igo 8 ? My diamond says it can't find the TMC hardware. I tried to play FM Radios and it works.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks by advance

Very good question.
I had the same issue myself, yesterday...
HastaSSSS

Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?

someone1234 said:
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
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Nope. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh, well...

Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
Does anyone know a bluetooth TMC receiver for use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?

rrichie said:
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.

Thanks marco 899.
Does you have any suggestion about a good bluetooth TMC receiver i could use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?

Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.

leaskovski said:
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
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It's all about licenses. TMC needs a license from GNS. That's why leadtek stopped producing gps receivers with builtin TMC.

I only put my original head phone on usb port and I found a TMC with diamond via IGO's automatic finder. It's fine but the reception of TMC's chanels doesnt work. I think that it is possible to do a bridge between FM radios ...

marco899 said:
It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
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There is no need for TMC Hardware. TMC is done by some special RDS-Messages. Diamond is able to receive RDS 'cause it will show up the name of current station. So it will receive RDS-TMC, too.
You only need a software that will get the tmc messages and decode them to, lets say, opentmc and that's all.

are there some examples for an openTMC software?

If it turns out that waiting for the software TMC support takes too long I have an alternative proposal:
- it would be possible to buy a TMC receiver for a mere ~$100 and
- log the TMC messages in country. All of them.
- start a website
- write a program that periodically downloads the content of the website via 3G
- and feed a COM port that Igo or other navigation programs can read.
As far as I know (please correct me if you know an existing solution) there is no such site online.
How does it sound?

i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer

dibbutz said:
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
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Thanks dibbutz for bringing this to my attention.
It does work on the Touch Diamond, better than the TMC on the £1,000 Garmin in my Volvo.
There are three things that you ought to be aware of.
1) You need the headphones plugged in to act as a aerial.
2) It only works with a good signal, don’t expect it to work indoors without fiddling with the aerial.
3) The HyperGPS program remains working even when the program is closed. The only way to unload it is to do a soft reset. (Could have battery implications).

Internal TMC on Diamond is possible !!!
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
It works !

GPS garmin navigation on Raphael

I have T-mobile Vario IV (Raphael) with built in GPS receiver. In NoniGPSPlot software I can read GPS data on COM4 port, but I couldn't manage to make GPS working on garmin software because software is searching for BT GPS receiver. If someone knows how to make garmin + raphael working together I will be grateful.
Regards,
H.

The|One said:
I have T-mobile Vario IV (Raphael) with built in GPS receiver. In NoniGPSPlot software I can read GPS data on COM4 port, but I couldn't manage to make GPS working on garmin software because software is searching for BT GPS receiver. If someone knows how to make garmin + raphael working together I will be grateful.
Regards,
H.
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The answer has been posted before....you should really search.
You have to register the software first to allow Garmin XT to work with other gps's than Garmins.