Hi everyone,
Does anyone tried to use TMC under Igo 8 ? My diamond says it can't find the TMC hardware. I tried to play FM Radios and it works.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks by advance
Very good question.
I had the same issue myself, yesterday...
HastaSSSS
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
someone1234 said:
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
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Nope. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh, well...
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
Does anyone know a bluetooth TMC receiver for use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?
rrichie said:
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
Thanks marco 899.
Does you have any suggestion about a good bluetooth TMC receiver i could use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
leaskovski said:
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
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It's all about licenses. TMC needs a license from GNS. That's why leadtek stopped producing gps receivers with builtin TMC.
I only put my original head phone on usb port and I found a TMC with diamond via IGO's automatic finder. It's fine but the reception of TMC's chanels doesnt work. I think that it is possible to do a bridge between FM radios ...
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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
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There is no need for TMC Hardware. TMC is done by some special RDS-Messages. Diamond is able to receive RDS 'cause it will show up the name of current station. So it will receive RDS-TMC, too.
You only need a software that will get the tmc messages and decode them to, lets say, opentmc and that's all.
are there some examples for an openTMC software?
If it turns out that waiting for the software TMC support takes too long I have an alternative proposal:
- it would be possible to buy a TMC receiver for a mere ~$100 and
- log the TMC messages in country. All of them.
- start a website
- write a program that periodically downloads the content of the website via 3G
- and feed a COM port that Igo or other navigation programs can read.
As far as I know (please correct me if you know an existing solution) there is no such site online.
How does it sound?
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
dibbutz said:
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
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Thanks dibbutz for bringing this to my attention.
It does work on the Touch Diamond, better than the TMC on the £1,000 Garmin in my Volvo.
There are three things that you ought to be aware of.
1) You need the headphones plugged in to act as a aerial.
2) It only works with a good signal, don’t expect it to work indoors without fiddling with the aerial.
3) The HyperGPS program remains working even when the program is closed. The only way to unload it is to do a soft reset. (Could have battery implications).
Internal TMC on Diamond is possible !!!
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
It works !
Related
Hi there,
Has anyone made a TMC device working on the Athena?
I tried some version of the GNS FM9 adpaters but nothing worked.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Have a good start into 2008.
greetz,
DAx
I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!
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I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!
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Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
hmm... thank for the link. That would be really the last chance to get TMC working for the ameo.
FYI, I use Mobile Navigator 6 and it fixes the gps signal really quick. I also use the Quick GPS and when I start MN6 the GPS signal fixes within 1 minute.
Greetz,
DAx
AndreasF said:
Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino
gigino said:
Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino
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Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas
AndreasF said:
Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
sorry to trouble you again but we are using the igo plus and the same gps as you the GNS 5843 but we can get the gps to work but not the TMC everytime we try to connect the TMC the pda just frezzes like the port has a conflict.
We have only been trying this in landscape mode can you tell me in which mode you are using the igo Portrait or Landscape.
Please can you help me in get this to work because I really like the Igo plus more the any anothe navigators.
Thanks
Gigino
Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas
AndreasF said:
Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
thanks for your help I well try again over this weekend.
They is another problem that I have and I've tryed everything but cannot resolve it.
I use the Igo Plus in landscape mode when I'm using the map and I get a reminder or a call the screen revertes to portrait mode and after accept the call or dismissing the reminder all the buttons in the Igo software goes all funny.
Do you have the same problem or have you find a way to correct this problem.
Thanks
Gigino
Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!
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Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!
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Hi,
I can confirm this also, the screen is inverted meens, that it looks ok, but you you have to touch it in an inverted way. I.e. the button is on the left upper corner of the screen, but you to click in the right lower area. Thats really strange. I've have the feeling, that this happens very often, if you use the Map view instead of the cockpit view.
@ gigino: I use the ameo with a brodit mount without the keyboard, so I don't have this problem.
In my last message is a little mistake, you have to switch OFF (and not ON) the automatic access in the GPS settings.
Regards
Andreas
Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.
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Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.
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You would need some form of addon TMC FM receiver similar to the Garmin inline version for its dedicated GPS units.
Only other way of receiving TMC reports is via your data connection (3G,GPRS) as in Gamin XT.
So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.
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So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.
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Yeah, Garmin pulls it from the Garmin webserver.
Hmmm, its asking for a COM port? I wonder if iGo either sell an addon receiver or have plans to in the future. Unless this is a generic package designed for Pocket PC's and its a function that is unavailable on Windows Mobile.
I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.
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I'm trying to set up traffic on igo 8 and TMC search returned negative results. Does anyone know if Kaiser supports TMC?
.....And yes I have searched the forum for this.
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No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12
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No, Kaiser doesn't have an FM tuner or interweb capability. And yes this has been answered before here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2211591&postcount=12
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Thanks for the speedy response.
that being said is there an alternative that anyone know on how to configure traffic with Igo8 or to automatically reroute if im using google or something in the background.
You can use TMC with IGO but it would require you to get at bluetooth TMC receiver och a bluetooth GPS with integrated TMC but the ones I´ve found are quite expensive and not easy to find.
oh ok thanks cause i still been searching all over the net for one.
From another thread in the Kaiser accessories forum:
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GNS are advertising a launch of TMC only receivers.
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=72&L=1
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here's the link to the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400813
If you are in the UK, don't forget TMC is a paid service... unlike the rest of the world.
Okay I emailed the people over at GNS about the bluetooth TMC Transmitter that plugs into a cars lighter plug.
This is what I asked...
When will the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C be available for sale, and is it compatible with the HTC Kaiser (AT&T Tilt), Igo 8 and TMC signals in the USA?
Thanks.
This was the reply I recieved.
Dear Mr. Gerado,
thank you for your inquiry. The ramp up time for production of the GNS TrafficBoxplus FM9BT-C will be in the end of october 2008. The GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT is compaible with HTC Kaiser and works also with iGO8 (manual configuration). The GNS TMC receivers support the TMC service in the USA. But it depends on the navigation software (maps), if the received USA TMC data can decoded and used in the navigation software.
Best regards
Gerd Sept
So it looks like in November or so I will be ordering me another "toy" as my wife called my gadget pr0n..
http://www.jr.com/magellan/pe/MGN_TRAFFICLINK/
So much cheaper, but no clue it it'll work w/ phones.
i had tpc rom and the igo worked fine
Hi,
sorry if this is a silly question , but i don't understand why the diamond doesn't support TMC for navigation? As far as i know TMC is sent through radio signal and the diamond has an radio receiver. So why can't we use TMC?
Thanks for all replies!
Take a minute to think about it...
You need the headset to get the radio working.
Furthermore, TMC needs a special device to decode the signal.
The internal GPS-Receiver is built in the SoC from Qualcomm and doesn't contain the TMC-Device (probably Patent-Issues?).
I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
Hmm, doesn't seem so. It has a USB conector, but which isn't carrying USB signals, it has a simple serial port instead. So the PND would have to be specifically made to work with it.
Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
p34cdc2 said:
I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
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Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
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Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
For EUR 299,- it would be realy expensive - I got it for EUR 89,-
Best regards,
dingolino
http://www.amazon.de/GNS-5870-TMC-R...UTF8&coliid=IHAMS4JL0SXJZ&colid=1OPRJANNOTT3Z
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Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
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That is indeed a better price. so bought one.
Can confirm it is working well with iGo8. receiving TMC without a problem.
The only annoying thing is you need to connect the com2 manually. if you have done that it works.
looking for a solution on this. so far not found.
There is also the Royaltek RTG 2000 Bluetooth GPS/TMC receiver. You can get one for around €90 and it works just fine with iGO.
THE HD2 has TMC build in
if that is the case, good news.
please explain to us how to use it in navi program.
so far no one got it to work without bluetooth receiver.
shine the light..
Bump, I liked to know to get that working !
Confirm that
GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT-C (google it) is working fine with HD2 and Igo8
please explain
Please explain!!
peter7 said:
THE HD2 has TMC build in
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Please explain!!
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Bump Up ! is it true? That would be so nice!
it is just a loose comment made and never explained how to.
when you look in the hypergps thread it is stated that it does not work on the HD2.
* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
Supports radio functions if renaming FMSDKWrapper.dll to FMS_API.dll with the above driver. RDS data cannot be received.
We are working on this device. Related thread: FM Transmitter on HD2
Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
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Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
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this is the hyperGPS thread i mentioned before and the second post in the link says:
NOT supported devices
HTC Rhodium/Leo cannot receive RDS data by using GFMAPI.
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* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
(skipped)RDS data cannot be received.
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Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
pavelbor said:
Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
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Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
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Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
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If i have understood it right rds and tmc is transferred the same way but the problem is extraction of the tmc data. the piece of software used for that named gfmapi does not work with the BCM432x Chipset build in the HD2
so far nobody managed to write software that can do this for our chipset.
for the time being we are left with the working bleutooth tmc receiver solution.
Another potential USB solution?
After extensive googling I found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Evesham-Nav-Cam-7500-Tmc-Kit-12-VOLT-USB-CAR-CHARGER-/370400305941
It is a GNS FM9; I bought one. At first sight the connector seemed to be a standard mini USB (that is easy to convert to micro USB). Well, it IS USB, but the 8-pin type that is widely used in digital camera connectors by Fuji, for example. I opened it up; the first attached image shows how it looks inside. Looks fairly standard USB colour coding, although pin 4 (the black) is also wired.
I have an RJ11 type that I used with my Axim X51 through a windscreen mount. The second and third image show how that one is wired; attached as comparison / reference.
I understand that I would need USB host functions to use the first one with the HD2, which is under development. But could some clever folks confirm that it would be possible to solder a micro USB connector to it and end up with a usable hardware? Of course, subject to driver availability.