Have been reading all the forums and had used the info here to put a custom ROM on my T-Mobile Wing. Unfortunately my Wing is now suffering a hardware problem and has to go back for a warranty replacement. This could obviously be a problem if it has a non-standard ROM on it. Because of this, I went ahead and grabbed the RUU_Atlas_TMO_US_4[1].10.531.3_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_Ship.exe file via the threads and attempted to reflash my phone.
I am running the flash attempt from a physical Windows XP system. My phone is fully charged. I have an active partnership set up with the phone and active via ActiveSync. I start the flash process and the phone reboots into bootloader mode as expected. The flash process gets to 1% then the phone reboots into regular mode again and the RUU reports that the flash failed.
Am I missing something?
Update: apparently I was missing something. I had read the thread indicating the phone reboots at 1% and 30% (though mine only rebooted at 1%), but I assumed it would go back into the boot loader automatically which it didn't. On a hunch I tried forcing it into the boot loader and the RUU continued. Weird.
Have you HardSPLed your phone before? If you have, you have to bypass the SPL... Rumor goes, flashing the stock RUU WITH USPL will do this for you. I haven't tried it so I don't know if this will work or brick the device.
I had my phone picked up for warranty this very day. It was running Itje's latest ROM before the 6.1 update, but it totally died on my the other day. So now I'm hoping they won't mind too much about the hard-spl ing and the flashing and the overclocking *cough*
Good luck restoring your phone though. Maybe they won't care, I'm hoping for that
I basically took ivanmmj's advice and wrote a lil guide, I hope it gets sticky'd. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364543
DaMyth said:
I basically took ivanmmj's advice and wrote a lil guide, I hope it gets sticky'd. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364543
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Glad to hear it worked. ^_^ I think that's the second account I hear of it working, so it must be something that DOES work.
Not to raise the dead but good thing I found this thread, worked or me too. Anyone know anything about the warranty replacements tmobile sends out? I'm assuming a refurbished model but anyone know the type o condition they are in?
The model that I got as a replacement, oh so long ago, has been working like a champ since I got it. It looked brand new, but then again, the original had problems not too long after I first got it, when the Wing was still a pretty new device.
Thats good to know, should only have to last me a month or two seeing how tmobile in their infinate wisdom lost the cell tower near my house a few months ago and contract is done on the 29th.... hello tilt!! (or touch pro )
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...someone calls while you happen to be flashing your rom, radio or otherwise? Will it brick the phone?
I finally bit the bullet and managed to unlock and flash a new rom into my T-Mobile MDA last night.
Just a few minutes ago, I was about to upgrade my radio rom and right before I clicked to start the process, I got a phone call.
Now, I realize I may be lucky as hell because I have a feeling the phone could've been bricked.
I don't recall ever seeing any warnings to actually turn off the phone function while doing any rom updates, but I guess this should've been common sense in my part.
Anyway, like I said, I'm curious, anyone know what actually happens?
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...someone calls while you happen to be flashing your rom, radio or otherwise? Will it brick the phone?
I finally bit the bullet and managed to unlock and flash a new rom into my T-Mobile MDA last night.
Just a few minutes ago, I was about to upgrade my radio rom and right before I clicked to start the process, I got a phone call.
Now, I realize I may be lucky as hell because I have a feeling the phone could've been bricked.
I don't recall ever seeing any warnings to actually turn off the phone function while doing any rom updates, but I guess this should've been common sense in my part.
Anyway, like I said, I'm curious, anyone know what actually happens?
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as far as i know i don't think anything happens. just ignore the call. when booting the room the rom updater tool will reboot the phone regardless if the phone is ringing or not. someone correct me if im wrong.
therocketeer said:
...someone calls while you happen to be flashing your rom, radio or otherwise? Will it brick the phone?
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Once your phone screen goes black, then I believe all functions, phone/pda ceases to work until it boots back up with the new ROM.
i dont think the phone would even know it has an incoming call, since all the software is basically in the process of being overwritten with the newer one...
The phone will go into the bootloader no software will be loaded so you wont have to worry about phone calls, text messages, etc. there is no interface during flashing, just a progress bar.
oh
Ok thanks guys. That's good to know I don't have to worry about it. It was pretty funny though since I didn't know what would've happened, my heart almost skipped a beat thinking my phone almost got bricked by a phone call.
Thanks again!
So, all yesterday, I was having problems getting service anywhere I went. Towards the end of the day I got no service anywhere. So... put my phone on the charger all night, woke up and... Nothing.
Phone wont turn on, battery pull won't work, can't get into bootloader. Orange light turns on when I plug into charge.
I was running the stock HTC ROM with a couple programs installed. Google maps, iContact and Soft Key Changer. Thats it. Had no problems until now.
I called the company I got if from said bring it back they will get me a new one (just got it last Sunday). I can't get Activesync to see the phone so reflash is not a possibility.
They won't be able to turn it on at the store, this thing is gone. But if someone somewhere sees its a new ROM when they send it back (if they can get it on), am I screwed? I think I'd just say the guy in the store did it cause he had is last...
from what I understand you void the warranty by using a different rom.
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So, all yesterday, I was having problems getting service anywhere I went. Towards the end of the day I got no service anywhere. So... put my phone on the charger all night, woke up and... Nothing.
Phone wont turn on, battery pull won't work, can't get into bootloader. Orange light turns on when I plug into charge.
I was running the stock HTC ROM with a couple programs installed. Google maps, iContact and Soft Key Changer. Thats it. Had no problems until now.
I called the company I got if from said bring it back they will get me a new one (just got it last Sunday). I can't get Activesync to see the phone so reflash is not a possibility.
They won't be able to turn it on at the store, this thing is gone. But if someone somewhere sees its a new ROM when they send it back (if they can get it on), am I screwed? I think I'd just say the guy in the store did it cause he had is last...
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Try a different battery or a different charger first.
brynwall said:
from what I understand you void the warranty by using a different rom.
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Thats what I understand too. However, you can't get the thing on, no connections - nothing. They won't be able to tell at the dealer for sure. And I think in this state it goes to the junk pile cause I can't get any connection on it period.
From my dealing with Cingular and having to exchange my 8125/Wizard, they always include the statement regarding voiding your warranty if you load unauthorized rom images on your phone.
That being said, I have sent back many bricked 8125's for various reasons (none of which were bad rom images), and I never had an issue with them actually noticing that I had a custom rom loaded on it.
Of course every carrier is different, but judging from my experiences, I think you'll be fine.
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From my dealing with Cingular and having to exchange my 8125/Wizard, they always include the statement regarding voiding your warranty if you load unauthorized rom images on your phone.
That being said, I have sent back many bricked 8125's for various reasons (none of which were bad rom images), and I never had an issue with them actually noticing that I had a custom rom loaded on it.
Of course every carrier is different, but judging from my experiences, I think you'll be fine.
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Cool, thanks man. I think I'll be fine too. I feel that the issues has nothing to do with the ROM, as the ROM has been working fine for a few days now with no glitches except for the service problem yesterday. I wont mention the ROm of course, but the thing does not turn on in any way whatsoever. The only thing that happens is when you plug in the power you get a orange light up top.
Thanks for your help, I'm glad they haven noticed even on working phones with different roms.
It sounds like it could be as simple as a power issue. Either charger or battery.
But I had the same thing happen to a Razor once. Bricked at the bootlloader screen and would not take a charge from that point on. My carrier (AT&T) had told me the device was beyond repair (translation: they had no clue at the store). Ended up having to borrow a charged battery to re-flash the device.
Haha, I bricked a razr once too, and was able to revive it with via a number of things (barely). I was trying to change the boot screen. Those phones are fun to mess with - at least you could get into the boot loader most of the time even if it was near death.
I'll try a different battery when I get to the store.
I went to the store just now, they changed the battery and... nothing she tried my battery in a new phone and it worked, so the battery is fine, but my phone is f*cked.
I am replaceing tomorrow.
Im really really hoping that someone can help me here
It started this morning around 10:00 or so - I took my phone out to check my messages, everything is working fine. I lock the phone and put it standby (power button) and *surprise*, it locks up and wont come out of standby
So i just re-set it (like im forced to do 20 times a day) and instead of booting it went straight to this red/green/blue screen. At the bottom of the screen it just says "Serial" but doesn't actually give a serial.
I instantly thought it was bricked, so i removed the battery and left it out for a few mins. Then i put the batt back in, and it booted normally. I used it throughout the day with no problems.
Fast forward a few hours and it does it again but now it wont boot at all (ive reset the thing like 100000 times in the last hour ive been working on it).
WTF is going on?? Im really really hoping that it isnt too screwed to fix
The last program I installed was the SPB pack, but that was over a month ago, and i use the phone every day, multiple times a day.
Oh, and to make things worse i was planning on relying on my TomTom tomorrow
and the text on that screen says:
Kais1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLID-8
And at the bottom it just says "Serial" but none is given.
This blows
Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
Do you see "USB" instead of "Serial" if you connect your sync cable to your phone when in the bootloader?
If so, I would download the latest carrier-branded rom and flash it to your device. As long as the rom is designed for your device, then you do not need to do anything special prior to running the file from your PC.
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Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
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I have never flashed it but i have spilled water near it (on the counter, the phone got wet but that was months ago and has no relation to this).
Can they check if it has been wet before?
When i plug it into my computer it says USB instead of serial. Should I try to re-flash with an updated rom and see if it fixes it or just take it in?
If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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Thanks, ill give you a buzz.
I need to finish and email a few things first (shouldnt take more than 30mins).
Actually, ill just message you tomorrow or something.
Ive been really busy this week.
well did you get it fixed? what did you do?
Yikes, that happened to a friend of mine, but he flashed his and then had to reflash it. I think there is a place on the back under the battery that they use to tell if it's been wet. I would take it back, even if flashing it fixes it, you don't want it to happen again.
oh and it doesn't mean serial like a serial number, it is a serial connection.
I havent been able to get it fixed.
I think ill try to flash it this weekend and see if that fixes it
You'll only make problems worse if you reflash. I've analyzed the MTTY output you've sent me & you have a bad NAND storage blocks.
You need to follow the directions I sent to your email account via MSN IM.
DO NOT REFLASH UNTIL YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE BAD BLOCKS!!!
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
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dockular said:
jackjohnson said:
dockular said:
Sup Jack, my Tilt is doing the
Kais1*0
spl-1.56.0000
cpld-8
Serial
problem that you had talked about. I read that huge thread, lots of great info in there. Although its unfortunate what happened to you, I'm really grateful of all the troubleshooting that you've done before me, so I know what works and what doesn't. Interesting to note that I have had the Tilt since the day it came out, and never cooked/ flashed my rom. I have been using the Tilt rom the whole time with no problems. Otherwise I'm a huge power user and have a ridiculous amt of software installed.
So after everything was all said and done, did you end up just replacing the device? Thanks again man
-Anthony
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Anthony,
Yea I went ahead and replaced it. No matter what I did to reflash the original bootloader, and flash the original rom, I always ended up with that same problem. Did you notice that if you can't get it out of the bootloader, but you connect it to your computer, and while it's connect, you soft reset, that it boots? Just curious. that's what happened to me. Either that or I would have to yank the sim and battery, then try.
My tilt was working fine for about a month with a flashed rom, up until I started installing gobs of software on it. Just a thought. If I were you, I would get the device replaced. Especially if you've never flashed a new rom on it - it definitely should not be doing that.
Scott
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My computer has been broken for a month or two. To answer your question - I haven't been connecting it to anything other than an AC outlet. Anything installed in the last couple months was installed OTA... I usually just obtain a CAB by downloading it directly onto my device.
Also, its weird but sometimes after I drain the batter with the RGB screen then recharge it (this process takes about a day) then hit the reset button, it will actually boot correctly. I am on the third time this has happened. It was bricked for a couple days, then after a combination of charging / depleting got it to boot into windows. Then it happened again, then again.
As long as I don't restart the phone it will stay in windows... If I restart then I lose it for a day or so. Interesting to note that since this has happened, phone calls connect, but I can't hear the other party and they can't hear me.
Also, I use the mini usb out to a 3.5mm stereo jack to stream shoutcast into my car stereo while driving. Last week (at the onset of my problem) the music was playing from the Tilt's speakerphone, and not going through the headphone jack as it normally would. A restart fixed this, but when it happened again a day or so later, the next restart is what got me to that boot screen for the first time.
One of us should post this in the forum...
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And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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dockular said:
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!!
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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dude i wasn't telling him to not follow your advice. was just letting him know my story. as a matter of fact, after reading your original post I have decided to check for bad blocks on my phone.
GSLEON3;2021681
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!![/B]
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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Well, this has happened to one of our phones. Can you just post the fix here instead of requiring the email/IM rotuine?
I have a 6 or 7 month old Kaiser branded by AT&T. I got seperated from it late last week, so it ran it battery down till failure. When I went to recharge the phone, it started attempting to boot, staying at the AT&T globe screen and then appearing to boot again, (black screen and momentary vibrate.) With a bit of searching I found the suggestion of boot to loading screen and leave it there to charge. After 6 hours, the battery has a measured voltage of 4.17V so that should be enough, but the phone continues the booting loop.
I tried hard resetting with the two keys and stylus. The phone acted like a normal hard reset with the questions, but when it tried to boot, it continued the reboot loop.
My question, do you think I should attempt to reload the stock AT&T ROM?
I'm new at this so there's a large learning curve. If you guys think this is a low probably solution, then I'll sent it back / buy another one and save the long learning curve. I use this for business so I could spead the learning curve time writing software I get paid for writing.
Thanks,
Bernie
your phone got damaged from battery drain? is that possible?
i think your phone has another problem... i really dont think the battery drain was the reason...
can you go to bootloader if so try flashing new ROM (you will loose data) but again you said you have performed hard reset (partial HR) so your phone is clean!
if you want send your phone back - yes you need to get stocked ROM and stocked SPL back
BernieHunt said:
I have a 6 or 7 month old Kaiser branded by AT&T. I got seperated from it late last week, so it ran it battery down till failure. When I went to recharge the phone, it started attempting to boot, staying at the AT&T globe screen and then appearing to boot again, (black screen and momentary vibrate.) With a bit of searching I found the suggestion of boot to loading screen and leave it there to charge. After 6 hours, the battery has a measured voltage of 4.17V so that should be enough, but the phone continues the booting loop.
I tried hard resetting with the two keys and stylus. The phone acted like a normal hard reset with the questions, but when it tried to boot, it continued the reboot loop.
My question, do you think I should attempt to reload the stock AT&T ROM?
I'm new at this so there's a large learning curve. If you guys think this is a low probably solution, then I'll sent it back / buy another one and save the long learning curve. I use this for business so I could spead the learning curve time writing software I get paid for writing.
Thanks,
Bernie
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If you already have Hard-SPL installed and it is a version capable, you may try to put the Rom with a Radio onto the Micro-SD card and re-flash the phone that way. I had an issue where i got a boot loop and it turned out that flashing the radio fixed the issue. I hope you at least had a current backup prior to the hard reset because as of now, there is no way to retrieve it
No worries on the backup, it's backed up daily and I only use it as a data carrier. The only drag of the reset is the time of reloading apps.
I agree it may be more than just software issue due to dead battery, but I have to try everything I can. I've back on my old Moto smart phone and it's just not the same, hahahaha.
Now back to studying Kaiser ROMs and how to.
Bernie
As a follow up for anyone who runs across this in the future. I flashed the original AT&T rom and the problem still exists. I spoke to tech support yesterday and they are mailing out a new/reman replacement. So the problem appears to be terminal.
Thanks guys for trying to help.
Bernie
Hello,
I bought a Nexus one and as I don't live in a country that sells it my cousin brought it to me.
The device doesn't work and self Reboots giving me 20 seconds of use.
Tryed working with/without a sim,
Did a Factory Reset,
Formated the Sd-Card on my Pc,
and still in the same spot.
any ideas on what else to try before giving up?
anyone had this problem and fixed it?
My phone is not ROOTed and is on Version 1 of 2.1
didn't have enough time to get other info like Baseband and stuff.
I'm not willing to root the phone.
** If i send it back it will make the phone very expensive as i will have to pay costums fee when they mail it back to me
Thanks in advance!
Sounds like a DOA. Really bad luck.
If you send it back you should not pay duty to get it back usually, unless you live in a very tax hungry country! Between US and CAN you would not get duty.
Beside try speaking with cust support, DOA are usually well handled by company and so far HTC seem to be handling repair quite well as per the few post about broken screen I have seen.
Did you try running the phone WITHOUT an SD card ? good luck!
Krypton1984 said:
Hello,
I bought a Nexus one and as I don't live in a country that sells it my cousin brought it to me.
The device doesn't work and self Reboots giving me 20 seconds of use.
Tryed working with/without a sim,
Did a Factory Reset,
Formated the Sd-Card on my Pc,
and still in the same spot.
any ideas on what else to try before giving up?
anyone had this problem and fixed it?
My phone is not ROOTed and is on Version 1 of 2.1
didn't have enough time to get other info like Baseband and stuff.
I'm not willing to root the phone.
** If i send it back it will make the phone very expensive as i will have to pay costums fee when they mail it back to me
Thanks in advance!
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If the boots, has never been rooted (boot unlock), no immediate physical damage, and has no signs of liquid damage or tampering (check void sticker).... it's likely just a software issue. Reload original firmware, or load a new firmware... Don't give up, sounds like the phone is still okay.
Was it bnib?
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Was it bnib?
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So it seems.
Where are you from, Krypton1984 ?
Looks like some rogue app is loading at boot, causing reset. Possibly corrupt ROM image - but not sure. Might be software, might be hardware. But here's one thing to try:
If you're on a T-Mobile-compatible phone (900/1700/2100), do yourself a favor and flash stock Froyo. No need to root for that. The guide is in the sticky thread. In case of corrupted ROM image it'll do the trick.
I think you should factory reset it. Maybe even download the official 2.1 rom and install it. See if it fixes it.
Try a battery trade in first. Believe it or not, my first N1 seemed dead, and support gave me a swap for a new unit. When the new unit came in, it was still "dead" with the battery that originally shipped with the device. A new battery is what caused my N1 to finally come to life. The batteries that ship with N1's have QC issues, because I was one of many to report a DOA battery in the Google support forums.
its brand new,
I didn't pay customs on the way in because my cousin brought it to me, so if i send it back i will and it makes the phone very expensive.
what if when i try to change firmware the phone reboots again without finishing?
i dont want to brick the phone.
Krypton1984 said:
its brand new,
I didn't pay customs on the way in because my cousin brought it to me, so if i send it back i will and it makes the phone very expensive.
what if when i try to change firmware the phone reboots again without finishing?
i dont want to brick the phone.
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Well booting to the bootloader will answer the hardware software question.
1. Turn off the phone.
2. Now press (and hold) the Trackball and turn on the phone.
Once you're in the loader let it sit for a while. If it stays up it's a software problem and a new ROM should sort it out. If it reboots while in the bootloader it sounds like a DOA phone.
Good luck.
You can also try a full factory reset through the bootloader. Search for the instructions as i do not know them off the top of my head
P00r said:
Between US and CAN you would not get duty.
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Yeah, North America is all one big happy family. We've got NAFTA and everything now.
OP, I am assuming you've allowed the battery to charge full?
badomen said:
Well booting to the bootloader will answer the hardware software question.
1. Turn off the phone.
2. Now press (and hold) the Trackball and turn on the phone.
Once you're in the loader let it sit for a while. If it stays up it's a software problem and a new ROM should sort it out. If it reboots while in the bootloader it sounds like a DOA phone.
Good luck.
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i am having a similar issue. The phone reboots randomly and gets stuck at the static X logo screen. i have to remove the battery and let it be aside for at least 10 minutes before i am able to get the phone up and running again.
i tried updating to froyo. it installed but then froze up again on reboot. i did the battery thing and then started it up, went on fine..froyo had been successfully installed, but my random reboot problem STILL DID NOT GO AWAY..
can this be sorted by installing the original rom image?? or do i have to go in for a swap?!?
i don't want to swap coz they send out refurbished devices,,but its the last option...
padhi87 said:
i am having a similar issue. The phone reboots randomly and gets stuck at the static X logo screen. i have to remove the battery and let it be aside for at least 10 minutes before i am able to get the phone up and running again.
i tried updating to froyo. it installed but then froze up again on reboot. i did the battery thing and then started it up, went on fine..froyo had been successfully installed, but my random reboot problem STILL DID NOT GO AWAY..
can this be sorted by installing the original rom image?? or do i have to go in for a swap?!?
i don't want to swap coz they send out refurbished devices,,but its the last option...
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You'll probably need to swap based on what you're saying. I, though, actually think Refurbished devices are just as good or even better than new. Think about it, if you keep getting dust under the screen maybe a refurbished phone will already have the fix? For that scenario it works out.
padhi87 said:
i am having a similar issue. The phone reboots randomly and gets stuck at the static X logo screen. i have to remove the battery and let it be aside for at least 10 minutes before i am able to get the phone up and running again.
i tried updating to froyo. it installed but then froze up again on reboot. i did the battery thing and then started it up, went on fine..froyo had been successfully installed, but my random reboot problem STILL DID NOT GO AWAY..
can this be sorted by installing the original rom image?? or do i have to go in for a swap?!?
i don't want to swap coz they send out refurbished devices,,but its the last option...
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I really think this is a bad RAM issue.
I had this happen to my Nexus (ATT). It was prior to flashing froyo. I tried everything, flashing back to stock (including radio), cyan's latest, Paul's (stock) Froyo (with and without radio). Same result. Seemingly random reboots.
I thought initially that it was a software issue - It would not reboot while in fastboot/Amon's Recovery. But having tried every software combination, I've concluded that it MUST be hardware, unless I'm missing something big.
The phone, for the most part, would be fine as long as I DON'T TOUCH IT. It would stay idle for a long period of time (24hrs+), then I would use it Everything from web browsing to downloading apps to making calls, and it would reboot. It's frustrating because it seems that it's rebooting for no reason except that I'm touching it.
Sent in for a replacement, it arrives today. Hopefully it will not suffer this problem.
After talking with HTC they told me i need to swap the phone.
Because i'm out of america i need to send it to someone in the US amd then they send him the new divice after he sends my old one,
I am not satisfide with google's (first guy I talked with) and HTC because none of whome understand the severity and the hard feeling of getting a BRAND NEW IN BOX paper-weight. nothing about we'll compensate you or nada.
For me it tells me the brand is not strong enough to manage an outer state service and i wouldn't recomend them for countries that they don't cell it for.
If you where born in a HTC GOOGLE compatible country enjoy!
As i'm am probably less lucky and still in 2010 nationality counts