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I've long since turned in my Tilt for a Motorola Q9H but had to share with you guys. For some time now I've been on a quest to find a mobile music streaming application that would give me a nice interface and access to my home music collection. Social.FM desktop and mobile client is not quite there but head and shoulders above anything else I've found. The mobile client is a one time $20 but if you're interested I can help you get access to a promo copy. The desktop client is free. There's a station list on the mobile with access to a hundred or so genres and sub-genres.
Once you install the desktop client and point it to your local music collection it shows up on the mobile. Too easy.
What is wrong with Orb? it is free, supports video, live TV and webcams as well as music.
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What is wrong with Orb? it is free, supports video, live TV and webcams as well as music.
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Ummmm...
ORB is nowhere close. I tried it. The web interface is kludgy. And why would you want to have to switch to a different application to change to a different album or artist. The interface of the Social.FM client is iPod like. One of the things about Orb that was frustrating was that the streaming format was not supported in all players, or at least the one I wanted to use. It's been a while since I totally dismissed it so I can't remember the details. I tried them all. The best streamer was 40th Floor iPlay with the server option running on my desktop. But the interface on that is made for a stylus. I have no need to use a stylus, ever.
Incidentally, that's why I gave up the Tilt for the Q9H. And I need to be able to type with one hand which is not possible with the Tilt. As soon as the I-Mate 8502 comes out I'll switch to that.
Don't get me wrong. The Social.FM player is not quite there. You can't pause and there is no AVRCP support. I imagine that pausing is coming soon. I just had a full workout at the gym while streaming from my desktop at work and had zero skips. I found an interview with the CEO of Social.FM (http://www.onuiq.com/) and he said that they're using Ogg Vorbis encoding. Says they can get full quality over EDGE.
You really should give it a try.
I see its mercora. They are the ones who wanted to charge you for streaming your own music collection. Major fail.
Surur
Sounds pretty cool in spite of its short-comings. It will be great when this concept is fully dialed-in.
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I see its mercora. They are the ones who wanted to charge you for streaming your own music collection. Major fail.
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Well, they must have seen the light cuz right now I'm streaming from, not only mine, but my buddy's desktop for free.
Side note:
If I had my way I'd be streaming Slacker.com to my phone. They have, hands down, the best content available. The stations (genres/sub-genres) are put together by "music experts". And I can vouch for them. I even wrote an application to sniff their ID3 tags and automatically download full quality MP3's (theirs is 128kbit) and then sync that to my iPod automatically with ml_iPod. They have aspirations to release their own hardware player but not only hasn't that happened but I think it's misguided. I would [so] pay to stream their content to my phone.
is there a player out there that can download the shoutcast stations that are operating, and then be able to select and play??
much like PSPradio?
i am getting sick of making playlists for the stations that i want to hear on my computer and sending them to TCMP
Thinking about it, someone could prolly make a simple html that could fish for running streams, and link it directly into TCMP
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i am getting sick of making playlists for the stations that i want to hear on my computer and sending them to TCMP
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Ditto. I currently download the *.pls on my desktop and email them to my mobile.
I looked months ago and couldn't find any. I was in the same situation and grew tired of TCMP's interface. I finally purchased Resco Radio since it comes with a list of pre-set stations that I can add to or customize. Plus the UI makes it easy to jump between streams while driving. Still I wish something had native Shoutcast support built in.
i use opera mobile to browse and download the playlists and open them in core player. My Kaiser is paired with my car radio via bluetooth stereo audio. works fine for me.
i use opera browser and core player it works flawlessly. do need to enable coreplayer to play .pls files
just my 2 cents
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yeah there is
if you use pocket player (my favorite music player) u can just open it and browse media and serach under web media for anything and it will show a list of any station da is available under shoutcast and u just click play and it will stream it...its amazing!!!!
Use Conduit Pocket Player 3.6, it is a great peice of software allowing you to make play lists, change skins and search thru ur music like iContact (smooth motion thru the list)
Also one other great tool is the "Music Guide", this has all the different Shoutcast genres with loads of radio stations. I was listening to music which i thought I would never hear
It really is great, get the trial to test
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
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is there a player out there that can download the shoutcast stations that are operating, and then be able to select and play??
much like PSPradio?
i am getting sick of making playlists for the stations that i want to hear on my computer and sending them to TCMP
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I have been using a piece of software called SelectPlayer. This software offers a diverse selection of streaming radio, including shoutcast. The interface is a little dated, but functionality is certainly there.
Check out http://www.selectradio.com/
I use the Kinoma Free Player. Has a bunch of Shoutcast stations built in.
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I use the Kinoma Free Player. Has a bunch of Shoutcast stations built in.
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Yep, both Kinoma Play and Kinoma FreePlay have an always-up-to-date list of all Shoutcast stations built right in.
That's in addition to all Live365 stations, complete Audible audiobook support, 500 on-demand albums from Magnatune, thousands of podcasts, and quite a bit more.
-- Charles Wiltgen
Shoutcast
Why not create your own Shoutcast Server and create your own playlist that can be played remotely....then you could post your ip/station name on this forum and eventually create a list of servers/stations?
So I use iTunes to download podcasts (both audio and video) constantly. Can't live without it even
I want to dump my iPhone and swap to my Fuze full-time, but one of the major issues I'm having is finding a Podcast replacement. iTunes does a nice job in updating, downloading, and managing (auto-deleting) old podcasts. I actually have ~8GB in podcasts on my iPhone right now. So Podcasting is big for me for entertainment and news
I've found numerous solutions for just about everything else, but no one seems to have an easy answer for podcasting --
The closest I can think is setting WM to sync my podcast iTunes folder to my WM micro SD card (if that link is even possible) and then using windows mobile's interface to try and play them.
Does anyone have a better solution? Paid or free, it doesn't matter. I'm all for paying a one-time fee to download a nice podcast manager
Most Podcasts have a matching RSS feed and most RSS readers support the audio files contained in the feed. I personally use NewsBreak by Illium Software. OEM version is RSS hub. Which is floating around XDA and is cooked into a lot of the roms. It allows you to decide how many you want to keep of each feed as well so you don't overload your storage card.
I'm using Beyond Pod. It's free and works good.
I agree with rangie, Beyond Pod does a great job.
You can sync nearly any storage device w/ iTunes...
http://lifehacker.com/5273791/synchronize-nearly-any-storage-device-with-itunes
I use BeyondPod to catch podcasts, and Kinoma FreePlay to listen, but it took a few tries to get the settings right:
In BeyondPod, I set it to automatically turn on wifi and download new podcasts in the middle of the night, then turn off wifi an hour later. I think I have it set to keep podcasts for 9 days -- haven't found an equivalent to iTunes' ability to delete from a playlist once it's been listened to, but this works well enough.
I have every feed save the podcasts to the same folder. In Kinoma FreePlay, I have that folder saved as a favorite. That way, I can listen to podcasts in the car and go from one to the next, even in different feeds, without touching the phone.
With iTunes and an iPod, I could do all this much easier with a smart playlist. No such luck on WM, at least not with freeware.
First off, would like to say thanks to all the great people here who have helped me over the years in unlocking, modding, theme-ing and generally hacking my various phones... I have never felt the need to start a thread as I could always find the answer somewhere in here - but this one has me stumped.
Since purchasing my NexusOne (running CM5.0.6), I have been searching for an app to replace Pocket Music Player that I used to use on my WinMo phone. Basically what it was able to do is read m3u files that had URLs instead of local file names. I think I have tried every Android media playing app and they are unable to read the file (except for one) - they actually delete the file from the SDCard after trying to play it! DroidLive was the only app I could find that would load and play the file, but provides no way to view the playlist, skip tracks or read any of the metadata (because I think it assumes its a live stream).
Why is this is important? I am currently running an apache webserver on my D-Link DNS-323 along with a bit of code called musicbrowser (open source project) that allows browsing, streaming (flash based), playlist creation & downloading of music on my home network. Basically, you navigate to the tracks you want, hit stream and it sends you an m3u file with the URLs of the tracks you queued. That way I always have access to whatever tracks I have recently purchased (not to mention the fact that I have ~ 200 GB of music, and some days still can't find something I'm in the mood for).
And just so people know, I have tried every alternative out there - orb (buggy as all hell, server crashes frequently), subsonic (the android app doesn't actually stream - it just downloads the entire playlist to your SDCard), & tonido (unstable as per orb). I was very happy with the way musicbrowser was working on WinMo and just want to get back there with Android.
And so... does anyone know of an app that will properly play M3U files with URLs in them?
(Sorry about the long-ish post, but I wanted to make sure people understood what I was asking for.)
Not sure if it will suit your needs but give steamfurious a shot
m3u Player
Can window media player play .m3u file as a online radio
Is any other software can play .m3u file for window mobile 6.5
Try http://www.gmote.org/faq for "Gmote".
In the FAQ it says:
Are music playlists supported?
Yes. Currently, the M3U format is supported. If your playlists are in a different format, it's possible to convert them to the M3U format. Try Googling something like "WPL to M3U". Also, please let us know what your favorite playlist type is so that we may add it to future versions.
Also, when you select a single song to play, all other songs in that directory will be queued and played after the selected song.
With froyo we get native support for music streaming but I have yet to see any details about the formats supported.
Streamfurious is a no go. Tried it, but thanks for the suggestion.
I'm not exactly sure what the WinMo question was getting at, but no - WMP would not play them but just about every other player did - Core, Pocket Music, Mort...
GMote is an app that controls a local source from a network location & and what I am looking for is to play networked music via a local source.
Perhaps I will just have to wait for 2.2 and hope that solves my problem.
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You could try Subsonic to stream your music. I tried it a few weeks ago, and it worked. Not as user friendly as most to set up, but it looks like you could handle it easily.
I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.
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I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.
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I've written and published a program called "Just Playlists" which reads M3U files and uses them to directly locate music files on the SD card via file paths. I'm close to releasing a new version that will also stream music pointed to by URL's within the M3U (or PLS) playlists. I added this feature to allow for playing SHOUTcast/ICEcast streams, but it will also play remote audio files. This may help you out. The only caveat is that I don't get ID3 tag information from the streamed files and I re-connect to the server for each URL, so the gap between tracks may be a bit large.
Another issue you mention is that your M3U files are being deleted by Android. I can explain this one. When Android scans your SD card for media files, it reads the M3U files it finds and, if it can't find any tracks on your SD card corresponding to the file paths in an M3U file, it assumes the file is effectively empty and deletes it. To stop this from happening, place an empty file named ".nomedia" in the directory containing your M3U files. The media scanner will no longer touch this directory or any below it. The new version of "Just Playlists" has an option to create/delete these files, as well.
I hope to have the new version of my program released within a few days.
That sounds awesome! I look forward to release of your app!
I must say this has been most frustrating as this functionality is something I used my phone for the most (even more than the phone part!) and look forward to getting back to it.
Cheers,
H
EDIT: Just noticed your post was more than a few days old and you have released the new version! I am grabbing it now and will report back.
Just Playlists!
THANK YOU! I am literally almost in tears right now. I was so frustrated that I could not stream from archive.org (I bought a bluetooth receiver in my car specifically to be able to stream music in my car from my phone to the speakers). This has made my day. I will be donating after i give it a trial run. THANK YOU!
Try "A Online Radio." I like it better than streamfurious. Really, my only complaint is that it doesn't play WMA streams. I would KILL for a streaming audio program that did.
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THANK YOU! I am literally almost in tears right now. I was so frustrated that I could not stream from archive.org (I bought a bluetooth receiver in my car specifically to be able to stream music in my car from my phone to the speakers). This has made my day. I will be donating after i give it a trial run. THANK YOU!
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I'm really glad to hear JP is working out for you! Let me know if you run into any bugs or quirks. Streaming under Android seems to be a bit flaky, so I'm working to make JP's streaming more reliable, or, at the very least, to recover from streaming dropouts in as many cases as possible.
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I have tried subsonic and while it claims to stream, all the android app does is download everything to the device (ie. it was trying to download my entire music collection OTA - not good for my data plan.)
I just flashed froyo to my device and while I am overall thrilled with it, I am unimpressed that the streaming m3u issue is still there...
Still looking for a solution if anyone finds one! Thanks for all the input thus far.
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Subsonic doesn't download your entire collection, it creates a database of your entire collection so you know what you have and what you don't.
reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay
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reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay
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not sure if this is relevant but sound cloud has awesome dub and dnb
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has anyone found a working soultion for this yet? I have a set of m3u and pls files which are saved URL's of online radio stations, some from shoutcast, some from other sources that on Windows Mobile I used GS Player to listen to
Just Playlists seems to come the closest out of any apps I've tried to working but either gives me an unexpected error message when trying to open the file or it looks like it has opened it but I get no playback.
I've tried StremFurious, VLC S&C and I think one or two others but no luck yet, curious if others have a solution
thanks!
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reviving this thread xD
xiia plays m3u files can stream dnb radio now yay
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Just installed XiiaLive Lite from the Market (free) It works very well and has a really nice interface. Thanks for pointing it out.
Streaming works but...
Hey streaming works well with Just Playlist but I was hoping to find music player which shows me the content of the playlist.m3u and you can pick from there the song you wanna play... I got my music on NAS but I can access NAS from 3G also and would love to stream my music on the road to my phone... Any ideas for this? I can access the files via http or ftp/sftp... Also if anybody knows good php based media library script with account managment, please tell me (with mobile-layout would be awesome)
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Hey streaming works well with Just Playlist but I was hoping to find music player which shows me the content of the playlist.m3u and you can pick from there the song you wanna play... I got my music on NAS but I can access NAS from 3G also and would love to stream my music on the road to my phone... Any ideas for this? I can access the files via http or ftp/sftp... Also if anybody knows good php based media library script with account managment, please tell me (with mobile-layout would be awesome)
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try Mediastork.com (open source)
it is all custom and can be modded. it also automatically generates playlists of your mp3 folders
http://techmaderelevant.blogspot.com/2011/05/htc-evo-3d-and-view-4g-preorders-are-go.html
Still uploading all my songs lol, but so far I'm loving it! Who got their invite?
Can you just post your review here instead of linking to your blog for hits?
Here ya go:
Google's cloud-based music service was announced at this year's I/O conference to much fanfare and no surprise. While rumors of a music store had been rampant for quite some time, that wasn't quite what we got. Yet. But enough talk about what is not present, here's a quick sneak peak into Google Music Beta!
Before I get into this review, I'd like to make 2 disclaimers. The first and most important is that this entire service is Beta. There are imperfections that will no doubt be addressed. The second is that this is really 2 sneak peaks: One for the webapp and uploader, one for the Android app. Now, the good stuff.
First up is the meat and potatoes: The web interface and uploader. The uploading is incredibly easy. After a quick download and install, the Music Manager will scan your computer for the music. To avoid getting the random sound effects on your computer, you can have it scan through iTunes, Windows Media Player, or specific folders. Everything is done in the background, so you don't need to pay attention to it at all. You can also have it automatically run upon start up, keeping this truly out of sight and out of mind. The average library has a lot of music, mine being about 19.5Gb of tunes. At the time of this writing, I'm at 387 track uploaded after a few hours in, so completing this task will take a long time. The good news is Google promises each user 20,000 songs. My 19.5Gb accounts for roughly 4,000 tracks. The one issue I have is that I use iTunes, which means I don't really keep track of what the files are actually named. Since many tracks have numbers in front, and as far as I can tell the Music Manager uploads in alphabetical order, some albums can't be listened to in full.
The web app will look very familiar if you've used the web version of the Android Market. Everything is very tab-centric, making it incredibly easy to use. On the left side, you have the traditional ways of sorting through your library (Songs, Artists, Albums, Genres). Under that you get to the mixes and playlists. The auto-playlists sort out the songs you've Thumbs Up'd, your recently added stuff, and the free music Google is giving out. There's not a lot of it, and it's mostly a song or two per artist, but it's nice to get free stuff.
There are two kinds of playlists. You have your traditional playlists that you custom make by drag-and-dropping songs. The Music Manager also pulls your playlists from iTunes, which is very cool. You can also create Instant Mixes (a la Genius Mixes from iTunes) from individual songs or albums, adding in similar jams. Along the bottom is the Now Playing bar with the familiar Play/Pause, track navigation, Shuffle, Repeat, and Volume controls. I think the Now Playing bar could be a bit thinner. The width of it and the banners at the top make the song and album lists seem a little cramped. While the overall look isn't as visually impressive as the Zune player, it looks a lot better than iTunes but still has the information that iTunes has. Overall it's a very easy to use service while still looking very nice.
Now the dessert. The Android app is very basic, almost to a fault. First thing's first, it works pretty well. It decided to scare me by force closing the first time I tried to play a song, but every time after it worked well. Songs take very little time to load up on WiFi, though it does take a little bit longer on 3G. Swiping left and right switches through album, artist, etc. views. When on the now playing screen, you see the album cover, Play/Pause, song and artist name. One cool thing is being able to make custom playlists in the Now Playing screen, though it would make more sense to be able to make Instant Mixes from this screen. Maybe we'll get that later. You can also download songs or albums from the Library view and Now Playing screen.
The main problem with the app is a visual one. It's just boring. Like really boring. You're given a blurry, boring background picture. There's no animation between screens, nothing. It's just blah. It would have made a lot more sense to keep the color scheme and overall feel of the web app, while tweaking it a bit for smaller screens. The other small problem is that the name of the app is Music. So is the stock music app for Android. While the icons are different, this can be a bit confusing. They should made it Google Music for differentiation.
The biggest problem facing Google Music is the complete lack of a store. Google Music, as it is now, is just cloud storage and streaming. What's weird is that in both the web and Android app, you can "shop for artist", but it just does a Google Shopping search for that artist where you can buy the songs from somewhere else. This may work for now, but it isn't a longterm solution when Amazon is offering very similar services. Google is trying to get the labels to get on board in some fashion, but how long it will take and in what form we'll get the music remains to be seen. I'm hoping for a subscription service, and knowing how Google does things (and a fair amount of rumors supporting this theory), it's very likely that that is what we'll get.
Overall, Google Music is the best solution to having too much music to fit on your phone. While I'm also a big fan of subscription services like Rdio, they just don't have everything I listen to. Amazon's cloud storage is good, but it lacks a well done web player and uploading your stuff is obnoxious. Google nailed the upload and web version for sure. Once they lock in the record deals and make the Android app visually appealing, Google Music may just be the best music solution yet.
Everybody outside of the USA should have a look at 4shared music in the android market.
The most underrated and probably best international cloud service around
Has anyone tried to play it through a different player like PowerAmp. I don't want to listen to music on a lesser player, not since I've heard the difference. Also, are the playlists recognized by other players like PowerAmp?
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got my beta invite today...yippe
got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????
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got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????
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You have to set up the app on your PC. There is a link from the music.google.com page near the top right for the android app.
For me, I think the biggest opportunity for the android app will be mire management features. Currently you cannot thumbs up it down a track from mobile, and you cannot delete one either. Also it does not appear to be updating the play count when tracks are played via the mobile app. Overall , the app feels more alpha tech demo than it does an actual beta.
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I would love to try this out but unfortunately my library is larger than 20,000 songs :/
i'm trying to figure out the best balance of bitrate and battery. my V0 mp3s eat battery. i think pandora streams at q.2 48kbps AAC. i'm trying out flac-->q.25 63kbps AAC right now.
i think slacker, pandora, and lastfm are all around 48kbps. this might be an agreement with mobile providers--they all stream higher bitrate to the desktop than mobile.
or maybe i should just use it as a locker, and download from it? can't imagine when i would need that. don't really see a good use for this yet. the only reason i would stream is for discovery or lazy mix, and those services don't sound great. if they were higher bitrate, they would eat battery.
All my music is either uploaded to amazon mp3 or on amazon's cloudshare storage. I wish there was a way to get the music over to google without downloading and then re-uploading.
q.25 aac (63kbps) sounds like doodoo. i guess i would only use google music when on a ac or car charger, so that i can afford to play higher bitrates
i don't know, maybe it's my phone's audio chip. the m4a files sound better on my pc than my phone. htc thunderbolt
Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?
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Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?
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no - uploading your files to the cloud and streaming to your device is not "sharing" copyrighted material. no matter how dubious your music sources may or may not be, there is nothing inherently illegal about accessing through the cloud. in fact, it is only the act of sharing/uploading/seeding copyrighted material that is illegal.
i think its prety sweet so far. abiltly to deleted tracks from phone and some better 3g speeds would make it that much better. Anyone have this on multiple phones?? downloaded the player from the market to put it on my wifes phone but it is not in the settings to add an account. downloaded mine from the market and it has a different options menu.
I'm enjoying it so far. I was previously using AudioGalaxy to stream my collection from my home pc to other devices, but I definitely prefer the cloud storage method.
Took roughly 40 hours to upload 5k songs, not too bad. Had to convert some files to aac, but not many. Ran into 1 glitch where the uploader claims that a few song files don't contain anything, which they clearly do.. still not quite sure how to fix that problem, but it's only on 4 songs that I never listen to, so not that big of a deal.
At the end of the day, big thumbs up from me.
Im in beta but no streaming
I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!
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I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!
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Check out "Settings" and there should be an option to link it to your Google Account. I linked it and it still wasn't streaming though. I rebooted my phone, but that didn't seem to work either. Then randomly, a day or two later, it spontaneously started showing my music to stream. YMMV...
Offline music question ...
Here is a question for the Google Music Beta experts ...
One thing I love about Google Music on my phone is the ability to pin music. This allows us to play the 'pinned' music even when there is no 3G or WIFI service. The way I manage my offline music is through a playlist I made called "My Favorites". I have this playlist pinned, so anytime I add new music to it, it will automatically download when I am connected to WIFI. The question I have is ... what happens if I removed songs from the pinned playlist? Will they be removed from my phone? Or do they stay on my phone? I am hoping they are removed. I would hate for my SD card to get filled up with songs that I don't care to be available when I am offline.
Thanks
I have 30k+ songs in my itunes library, how do I pick and choose which songs to add/delete?