Newbie question - which ROM to use - P3600 Software Upgrading

Hi all
Complete newbie to ROM upgrades. I have a SPV M700 coming in the next few days and will be unlocking & flashing the ROM (currently Orange & WM5 I think). As there are many different ROMs available, I'm after some advice where to start.
From what I can see, there are 2 basic types - full (includes apps, config tools, etc) and lite (OS only). I'm guessing for me, a full ROM is going to be better whilst I get the hang of things, but which one to choose ? I think Schap's ROM has everything I need (and more) but welcome your advice.
Thanks
Maxi

similar question really.
I have found http://trinityguides.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=66 which seems quite good.
However will this result in a SIM unlocked device??
It would seem to SIM unlock I need to install a very old Radio ROM??
I think it is all quite confusing as obviously the different ROMs etc. have changed a lot over time and it is difficult to work out if the instructions I am reading are outdated.
Thanks for any help

The Trinityguides are very useful when it comes to the actual doing. My question was really which ROM(s) should I consider to upgrade to.
Maxi

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HTC 3600 and Dopod WM6

did someone tried the dopod wm6 rom on an HTC 3600?
Thanks
I did.
Works very well for me. No bug at all. I'm happy with it.
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks
gerazzo said:
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks
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I've upgraded my P3600 to WM6 (Australian ROM)
GPS - First detection is slow IMHO. After that it runs great.
Changes in speed - No changes so far I have noticed, in other words it still runs fast
Battery life - Is great depending on your usage. Just disable your infrared. That alone makes a lot of difference.
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
Thanks
gerazzo said:
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
Thanks
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Does it matter where I got it from?.. Or do you want to know where you can get it?..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42337174/D810_ANZ_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
I do not know what and if there is a difference is between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM.
I just know that the ROM I used didn't have customized DOPOD screenlogo's/programs etc installed AND that I have only one issue since running this ROM but I think it's WM6 related:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318013
All the OFFICIAL ROMs providing wm6 for trinity, so far, are from Dopod, including the rapidshare link above.
This is why it's called: 'D810' and not HTC P3600 in the link.
You may notice very few Dopod's customization, but it's still a ROM from Dopod, you can see, for instance, some Dopod's ringtones in the alarms and ring lists.
As far as the localized operator settings are concerned, I can't tell, since I did not install their extended ROM, I don't have any either, except for the ring tones I just mentioned before.
Regarding the new ROM performances, I think it has increased a lot from the previous April wm5 release from HTC: faster, better look etc.
The GPS is a little bit faster, but not much faster, but I think it has more to do with the new radio.
For example I could not get any fix with the 1.46.00.01 one from SEA. But it works quite well with the 1.46.20.01, from ANZ.
The most impressive improvement is the wifi connexion, which is stable, and fast. (it was a disaster with previous radios, especially the 1.38.x series.
Just to make myself more clear:
1)
I know all the trinity ROMs are made by HTC. What I meant is not 'made by Dopod' but, branded, designed for Dopod.
2)
I have read here before that wifi has nothing to do with radio but just with the ROM itself. I don't know, but what I can tell is that, the previous wm5 plus 1.38/1.41 radio series had always given me poor wifi performance.
But wm6 with 1.46. series is perfect in terms of wifi perfs.
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks
gerazzo said:
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
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No, there are no garantees.
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
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I use the Australian ROM and all the features of my P3600 work.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks
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Since there are no garantees there is a choice to be made. The P3600 is still unique in his features. It's the ONLY Window Mobile based PDA with 3G enabled and GPS onboard.
And what you do want to consider is that even if HTC releases a WM6 for Europe, there are no garantees that the ROM won't have any flauds.
Exactly, there is never 100% garantee to be fully satisfied and get no default or bug. This is why the reseller is there to offer you a one year garantee, so if you fancy the specs of the device go for it.
I don't want to start any debate about which programmers have more skills and more time to do proper job.
Individual ROM cooks are amazing and none of us will ever reach their skill levels, and they do it for free, just for the pleasure of sharing with us, so we owe them the greatest respect for that.
But obviously , after having tried both, I confirm that there are less conflicts and bugs in the official ROM than in the cooked ones.
Also because they take more risks by adapting applications that where not designed for the device (ex: touchflo and kaiser interfaces in trinity)
But I do believe that new cooked ROM from now on will be far more reliable than they were in before (wm6 ones), mainly because they now have a stable basis (the official dopod release) to make their own developments on.
So the difference might be slighter and slighter in those respects.
Explicit instructions for a dummy
Does this ROM update go as easy as the GPS unlock update?
I've done ROM updates that made you go through several activities and I just screw them up.
I'm looking for the simple version.
Jerry
Tried this and no luck
I have an HTC branded and unlocked P3600
I got this error:
Error 294 - Invalid Vendor ID
This update utility cannot be used for your PDA Phone.
Ideas?
No, it is not as easy as the GPS update ROM, and cannot be compare as you just experienced it because:
- it's not a HTC release, it's a DOPOD release, aiming at Dopod D810 clients, from South-east Asia and Australia-New-zealand.
- the ROM is heavy protected by its SPL to not install onto other CID devices.
- The previous Hard-spl crack doesn't work anymore and if you try to install it: luckily u'll get an error it will refuse to install, unluckily, it will get stuck in the middle of the install and you might even brick your device.
That's why you could not manage to install it. There are plenty of topics over this issue on this forum, you can try one of those workarounds, but take all responsibility if something unlucky happens during the upgrade process.
By the way: SIM unlocked, doesn't mean CID unlock, you can install any SIM card you want from any provider, but your phone's CID still belong to a language, a geographical area, and a manufacturer, which is HTC, not DOPOD ;-)
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
pinocchios said:
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
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no chance without spl bla bla stuff?
i just want to excute and install :-(
that is it..
read the link I gave you. it is very simple.
copy this file to your pocketpc and execute it! works in 10seconds..
I clearly should do more reading before attempting this
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
I told you so...
1)
Don't think it's easy and simple, every one got different skills and experience and you don't help the noobies by saying "flashing a SPL protected ROM is 'easy and simple, just use your brain'...
Better being warned of the worst, if you want to do your best...
2)
There is a sticky thread in this forum about 'how to unbrick or unstuck you phone after having failed to flash the Dopod's ROM.
Read it CAREFULLY and try it out.
3)
Next time you try, use Olibro SPL or, more simple and safe for beginners, try to flash a ROM without SPL/IPL.
hitekfun said:
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
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can you give more info on where you're stuck? (what is shown on bootloader screen). i'm assuming you've tried a soft reset to exit bootloader...
it's not that hard to flash a rom, the official dopod wm6 included. follow the guide here which will allow you to flash it without the new spl. it's still recommended to flash hard spl before a ROM flash to be safe.

Flashing to WM06 - newbie questions

Hi all,
sorry for the newbie question but I'm thinking about upgrading my Trinity to WM06 and wondered if anoyone could answer some basic questions as I'm a bit confusted (... not that techie I'm afraid)
1. As my device is a SIM free, non network attached HTC P3600, do I need to do any of this "Hard-SPL" upgrading before selecting a ROM
2. is there a simple step - by - step flashing guide for newbies like me anywhere
3. Do the ROMs provided here enable SDHC for the device. I want to use higher capacity mini SD cards - this is a really important requirement
4. I love the inbuilt GPS and Tom Tom solution - are there any issues with GPS/Tom tom support in the upgrades
Many thanks in advance
Coe
coe62 said:
Hi all,
sorry for the newbie question but I'm thinking about upgrading my Trinity to WM06 and wondered if anoyone could answer some basic questions as I'm a bit confusted (... not that techie I'm afraid)
1. As my device is a SIM free, non network attached HTC P3600, do I need to do any of this "Hard-SPL" upgrading before selecting a ROM
2. is there a simple step - by - step flashing guide for newbies like me anywhere
3. Do the ROMs provided here enable SDHC for the device. I want to use higher capacity mini SD cards - this is a really important requirement
4. I love the inbuilt GPS and Tom Tom solution - are there any issues with GPS/Tom tom support in the upgrades
Many thanks in advance
Coe
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Hey there, coe62!
I'm not a techie myself, but have just recently flashed my Trinity for the first time to WM6, so most of your questions were mine also. Here:
1. yes. From what I understood, also protects your device from a bad flash helping you recovering it (as far as I know, there are three of them: OliPro's HardSPL 1.30, OliPro's HardSPL 1.20 and Des' Crash Proof SPL)
2. http://www.trinityguides.info (thanks to racerx_)
3. some of the do, some of them don't, check here for details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1635483&postcount=5
4. using iGo, so I can't tell!
Best of luck!
iGo
hi tnyynt,
i've seen u are using iGo, and also seen the small flag in the corner....so let me say first "salutari". as i'm new user of a trinity and have the german wm5 (my german sucks), i will flash it to wm6 english but i don't know if iGo is working with wm6. is it iGo os dependant?
thks!
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hi tnyynt,
i've seen u are using iGo, and also seen the small flag in the corner....so let me say first "salutari". as i'm new user of a trinity and have the german wm5 (my german sucks), i will flash it to wm6 english but i don't know if iGo is working with wm6. is it iGo os dependant?
thks!
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Hey there!
YES, iGo works very well on both WM5 and WM6. I had it with the stock WM5 and now using it with a cooked WM6, it works great on both operating systems.
Noroc!
hi there
Am as a newbie as well, lately i've been tried flashing pretty man ROMS over Trinity Windows Mobile Section 6, and find out some ROMs are really good, smoothness, fast and damn good performance, or you can try Mary(latest ROMs). Personally, after trying cooked ROMs, i found Only _AX3L_WM6_WWE_v3.1.2c FULL & LITE (25-10-07)
This ROM is simply an edited version of the Official DOPOD's ROM (lastest released version!) for the Trinity work on my DopdD810, what i mean is with this ROM i can get connected with Internet, but rest of other ROMS don't, i've no idea Why, i am from Hong Kong, somebody has idea due to connection to the internet??
Ok, due to my bad understanding which SDHC would be most suited for my device? As i read about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1635483&postcount=5
for ROMs flashing i follow the instructions, so far without serious errors happened, i'd to thank all of you, no matter newbies, seniors, moderators...
hi!
that's great, thanks. hopefuly i'll have time in week-end to play around and flash it!
numai bine!
Well i use this thread to post some of my questions...
i get my p3600 tomorrow and i'm very excited, so i want to flash the WM6 from bepe.
1. is there any way to backup the factory-flashed rom?
2. do i lose the warranty if i flash the device? is there a workaround?
3. I've read a few threads but i cant get an idea whats this hard spl for?
4. is it possible to reset the p3600 to factory default so may i can get warranty if somethings fails?
thanks for the replies..
Hi guys,
I want to upgrade my phone to one the WM6 roms available in here.
I just wanted to ask will the sms / email / mms settings stay once the new ROM has been flashed.
If not where can i find them to write them down.
Thanks in advance.
no, they will be erased...
take a look at the trinity upgrade guide on trinityguides.info which will take you step by step through flashing your ROM (backup, hard spl, flash ROM, restore, etc)
Erase the ROM before installing?
I heard it's better to erase the ROM before installing a new one.
A kind of a 'super' eraser to clean deply the ROM. Have you heard of any of such a program/utility?
Thanks
connetion problems
hi
i tried to get all steps like on trinityguides.info but always the same sh....
ERROR[260] : CONNECTION
1.the USB cable IS connected to PDA
2.also at hte PC
sync is done and i get always the same, doesn´t mater what i try
- HardSPL
- ROM flash
has anyone an idea? i just want to have a german wm6 on my 3600. later on a can install TT on the "normal" way.
thx for any help

Latest Stable Rom assistance please?

Hey all,
First please let me say I am not looking for anyone to tell me what is the BEST cooked rom out there. I know each one has specific plusses and minuses that are suited to particular purposes.
Also, I have looked through this forum. I have read most of the WIKI, and spent an hour reading through various posts. However, I haven't found a concise discussion of this as many people are focusing on cooked ROMs.
I am getting a Tilt and from my reading so far I am pretty sure I want to reflash it with an HTC Rom. I want the TouchFlo and some of the other stuff that the HTC offers. I have some general questions though:
1) Is there a downside to putting HTC Rom on a Tilt? I know there are some little issues that have solutions (like keyboard remap) but will I experience any instability or call/data quality issues running HTC over ATT ROM?
2) Relating to #1...can/should I just keep the ATT ROM and can I then add everything from the HTC ROM (from cabs?). I don't know which solution yields the best stability.
3) Is there a reason why I would go with a 6.0 ROM instead of 6.1 ROM? I would like to believe that the 6.1 is the newer, better stuff...but maybe not?
4) What is the latest 6.1 official ROM? Is it RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship?
5) When it comes to "official" shipped ROMs and Radio firmware from ATT and HTC, is there any good reason not to use the latest versions? That is are any of the new versions a step backwards in terms of stability/performance?
I do not want to use any cooked firmware (at least initially). I would like to start with a vanilla shipped firmware and then add/remove things myself. If this comes down to me cooking my own ROM so be it, but I would like to start with the basic.
My goal is to have a ROM that will be fast and stable, with as few lock-ups or resets as possible.
Thanks for your assistance.
1)i dont believe so it depends on the radio i believe
2)i think u should flash cuz it'll remove all the atnt junk..bloatware n such
3)it all depends on personal pref...i did cuz i wanted the threaded sms function
4)i dont know.sorry
5)i think they're all pretty much the same..just gotta test the differnt versions to find out
most of the cooked roms i tried arent as bad...not many lockups or resets
i'm still a noob at flashing tho so still trying things out

Where to start?

Ok, some of you may remember me from the Wizard world. I am the chef for the "Jag" series and "NTS" of roms there. They are old roms I know, but then i decided to be stupid and went to the SP world with a Moto Q9h, 6 months in, I miss my touch screen. I have an AT&T Tilt on the way now. So, to the main point of this post.
Where do I start with unlocking the Tilt, and also, Since I am on AT&T what is the deal with the radios. I know I want to use a non standard ROM on this phone since bloat ware pisses me off.
How do i determine what radio with what rom and so on?
Thanks for your help. I have tried to search the forum for answers but I am totally lost here. Guess I need to leave behind the world of the Wizard and one radio for all roms. LOL.
I missed you guys!!!!
Re the unblocking I think that id the CID Unlock guff you have to run (don't quote me, my phone was already unlocked)
Then read the pages on flash tutorial which turns out to be easy to do and then pick a ROM to flash and away you go
Wow 738 posts and you don't know how to read stickys.
Check the links in my sig (and just about anyone elses) or the sticky in just about every forum for the kaiser.
welcome back.
Ok, So just to test my understanding, I need to check each ROM release and see which HardSPL they used to make the ROM.
Example:
The Garmin.DK.1 WM 6.1 Premium ROM states the instructions are to install HardSPL 3.56. I have read how to do this and it seems pretty self explanitory in the instructions. After that, then I flash the rom, once the rom is complete, I do a hard reset on the phone.
Am I correct in those steps?
Now, my next question.
I have read here in the wiki that I need to ensure that I am using the correct Radio for my phone. Confused here a little bit.
Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 has this little disclaimer on the second post,
There will be 3 roms compatable with the latest AT&T Radios 1.65.14.06 and Radio 1.65.17.10
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Does this mean I have to hunt down a specific version of the radio in order to use this ROM?
Thanks again for the help.
738 posts does not mean I should know how to read a sticky. Most of the stickys on the Wizard forum werent stickys when I read them....
And I have worked with alot of the authors of those stickys too.
There are a few things you want to do:
First, install a hardspl I would recommend 3.28, 3.29, or 3.56
Second, security unlock your device
Third, Flash a Rom. A majority of the rom's here come with radio's. The best radio's available right now are 1.65.20.29 (great with getting a quick gps fix and fairly stable) 1.58.25.17 (which is compatible with almost every cooked rom here which offers great battery life and fairly stable reception at least in my area) or the newest available radio which is in my signature (offers decent gps fix, great reception and a decent battery life.
It is easier to learn as you go rather than attempt to cram it in all at once.
Good luck
Thank you red.
I just dont want to brick my tilt first attempt. I guess what im looking for is a quick rom, very stable and has no bloatware.
I think iwill work on the device with standard rom first so that I can learn the device itself. Then i will start reading rom release posts...... every page.
I like to have all info before i take the first step. expecially on something this expensive.

Rom Updates / Customs roms (from a newbie)

Hi All,
I've just got my new Touch HD but have never entered the world of custom roms before.
My current ROM is 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE dated 10/24/08. I've just updated the radio version to 1.10.25.25. My HD seems quite slow and generally I'm quite disappointed with it. That said I was quite disappointed with my HTC Tytn until HTC released a new rom.
From reading this forum there seem to be many happy people so I suspect that the software in my phone is more at fault. I've seen the new Arabian rom that has been posted. It obviously won't install on my UK model (I'm not tied to a mobile carrier) without me tinkering, but I wondered if there would be any benefit in me uploading it. Does it invalidate my warranty or can I reset the original rom should I need it repaired?
As a rule do custom rom makers use the latest offical release and then tweak them? What are the benefits?
I'm sorry for so many newbie questions. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction of some great "simple" instructions I would be grateful.
Regards
Jonathan
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Hi All,
I've just got my new Touch HD but have never entered the world of custom roms before.
My current ROM is 1.14.405.3 (22273) WWE dated 10/24/08. I've just updated the radio version to 1.10.25.25. My HD seems quite slow and generally I'm quite disappointed with it. That said I was quite disappointed with my HTC Tytn until HTC released a new rom.
From reading this forum there seem to be many happy people so I suspect that the software in my phone is more at fault. I've seen the new Arabian rom that has been posted. It obviously won't install on my UK model (I'm not tied to a mobile carrier) without me tinkering, but I wondered if there would be any benefit in me uploading it. Does it invalidate my warranty or can I reset the original rom should I need it repaired?
As a rule do custom rom makers use the latest offical release and then tweak them? What are the benefits?
I'm sorry for so many newbie questions. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction of some great "simple" instructions I would be grateful.
Regards
Jonathan
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hi bro welcome to XDA.
Everything regarding flashing, upgrading and choosing from cookded roms , official roms and valuable information can be found here for Touch HD thank to HDUSER for updating here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
good luck
The first couple of pages in the wiki are a bit complex if you're new to all this and have never customised your phone. Loads of unneccessary info (which is nice to know, but not always important). The easiest way by far to flash your ROM would be using SPL and flashing from your SDcard. Search the forum, as there one or two threads specifically abpout flashing for n00bs.
There's one specifically I'm thinking about which really helped me out, but I have no idea anymore which one it is and I can't be arsed to search for it for you Search is your friend (search for: flashing ROM n00b newbie).

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