Ok, some of you may remember me from the Wizard world. I am the chef for the "Jag" series and "NTS" of roms there. They are old roms I know, but then i decided to be stupid and went to the SP world with a Moto Q9h, 6 months in, I miss my touch screen. I have an AT&T Tilt on the way now. So, to the main point of this post.
Where do I start with unlocking the Tilt, and also, Since I am on AT&T what is the deal with the radios. I know I want to use a non standard ROM on this phone since bloat ware pisses me off.
How do i determine what radio with what rom and so on?
Thanks for your help. I have tried to search the forum for answers but I am totally lost here. Guess I need to leave behind the world of the Wizard and one radio for all roms. LOL.
I missed you guys!!!!
Re the unblocking I think that id the CID Unlock guff you have to run (don't quote me, my phone was already unlocked)
Then read the pages on flash tutorial which turns out to be easy to do and then pick a ROM to flash and away you go
Wow 738 posts and you don't know how to read stickys.
Check the links in my sig (and just about anyone elses) or the sticky in just about every forum for the kaiser.
welcome back.
Ok, So just to test my understanding, I need to check each ROM release and see which HardSPL they used to make the ROM.
Example:
The Garmin.DK.1 WM 6.1 Premium ROM states the instructions are to install HardSPL 3.56. I have read how to do this and it seems pretty self explanitory in the instructions. After that, then I flash the rom, once the rom is complete, I do a hard reset on the phone.
Am I correct in those steps?
Now, my next question.
I have read here in the wiki that I need to ensure that I am using the correct Radio for my phone. Confused here a little bit.
Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 has this little disclaimer on the second post,
There will be 3 roms compatable with the latest AT&T Radios 1.65.14.06 and Radio 1.65.17.10
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Does this mean I have to hunt down a specific version of the radio in order to use this ROM?
Thanks again for the help.
738 posts does not mean I should know how to read a sticky. Most of the stickys on the Wizard forum werent stickys when I read them....
And I have worked with alot of the authors of those stickys too.
There are a few things you want to do:
First, install a hardspl I would recommend 3.28, 3.29, or 3.56
Second, security unlock your device
Third, Flash a Rom. A majority of the rom's here come with radio's. The best radio's available right now are 1.65.20.29 (great with getting a quick gps fix and fairly stable) 1.58.25.17 (which is compatible with almost every cooked rom here which offers great battery life and fairly stable reception at least in my area) or the newest available radio which is in my signature (offers decent gps fix, great reception and a decent battery life.
It is easier to learn as you go rather than attempt to cram it in all at once.
Good luck
Thank you red.
I just dont want to brick my tilt first attempt. I guess what im looking for is a quick rom, very stable and has no bloatware.
I think iwill work on the device with standard rom first so that I can learn the device itself. Then i will start reading rom release posts...... every page.
I like to have all info before i take the first step. expecially on something this expensive.
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Kinda new here, so if this is an easy one, please dont flame me.
I've been reading about flashing to an HTC ROM, and want to get rid of the AT&T ROM I currently have.
However, I saw someone say "Be careful about the radio ROM" in a post somewhere (in one of the 47,192 that I've read today...)
I currently have radio ROM 1.27.12.11 - can I flash the radio to any other version to accomodate a different ROM? If so, does anyone have a recommendation for a US user so that I can use an HTC ROM?
Please let me know...I'm really confused by all of this stuff.....
Thanks.
- M
nothing will happen if you do everything right...theres a radio thread that lists every radio in the rom section....check it out
Just make sure if you flash to a WM6.1 Rom to flash to a 6.1 Radio. Have a look on the Kaiser Radio Wiki page. it should tell you which are for which, there is also a sticky in the Kaiser Rom Development forum that has a link to a thread all about Radio's.
If you flash to the wrong Radio, you may have trouble with no sound or wierd camera problems, dont worry, just flash to another radio 'til it all works again.
Thanks,
Dave
One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M
lenknermj said:
One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M
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Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk
dirlan2001 said:
Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk
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One of these days, I'll learn to THINK before I flap my jaws.
Thanks again to all!!!
Two things to mention here off past experience. Firstly some of the radio downloads also contain OS roms for the phone, so if you want to only flash the radio then look around. As a guide a full rom with OS is around 55-60 mb as a download. A radio only rom is less than 10.
Secondly some of the beta 6.1 window OS will only work with a wm6 radio for example schap's 4.31.
There's a member called Alltheway who has all of these.
I'm looking at flashing the rom on my tilt, i want to get the most battery life possible out of my phone, and i read that flashing the rom is one way.(any other tips to gain battery life, please post). I read bmueller77 thread about flashing roms, but i have a few questions. can anyone recommend a rom that will give me the best battery life that will work with the tilt, and if a rom works w/the TYTN II will it work w/the Tilt? I don't know if at&t puts any sort of blocks or limits on their phones. also i've never flashed a rom, and i've read you have to flash the radio when you flash the rom, are doing these two things a difficult process for someone who's never done it before? i don't want to mess up my phone, especially since i read it will probably void my warranty. thanks, and any other tips for rom/radio flashing along w/any way of gaining extra battery life would be appreciated.
im a noob with similar questions, got down to flash my tilt the other night and couldnt get hspdl to load on it kept getting a device error 244 i think it was
saw in thread that the tilt was incompatible for that software but thats the only and best way to flash rom from storage card
really interested in flashing to 6.1 with threaded sms and group text, etc
seecho.com
I suggest you read this thread Kaiser ROM Upgrading and ROM flashing for Noobs.
Once you read all the info, read some more. Until you've read all the other things that could happen. There's still a good chance you can brick your phone, but if you have all the info to almost "what if" scenerios, you'll be fine.
Once your comfortable with flashing your Tilt, follow the Kaiser ROM thread.
I have an unlocked TyTN II, but currently using Dutty's WM6.1. So far, the radio on my sig has given me a good battery life. Follow this radio thread for particular radio for WM6.1 only.
Prolab said:
I suggest you read this thread Kaiser ROM Upgrading and ROM flashing for Noobs.
Once you read all the info, read some more. Until you've read all the other things that could happen. There's still a good chance you can brick your phone, but if you have all the info to almost "what if" scenerios, you'll be fine.
Once your comfortable with flashing your Tilt, follow the Kaiser ROM thread.
I have an unlocked TyTN II, but currently using Dutty's WM6.1. So far, the radio on my sig has given me a good battery life. Follow this radio thread for particular radio for WM6.1 only.
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your links don't work, and i've read both those already, but i have a couple more questions, which is why i posted here, and i'm assuming why the other person posted.
I have flashed mine and other tilts the regular way. So it can be done.
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your links don't work, and i've read both those already, but i have a couple more questions, which is why i posted here, and i'm assuming why the other person posted.
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My apologies. Links are now working. And/or just look at the XDA-Wiki.
Hi!
After installing the HTC Toupad on my Kaiser, I have experienced big problems. Letters on the Keyboard (QWASYX) didn't work and even the onscreen keyboard didn't recognized these letters. So I decided to uninstall the application. But now I have other problems with my Kaiser and so I decided to Hardreset my device. But before I do this, I want to upgrade my Kaiser to WM6.1 and update it to the newest ROM/Radio.
Now I have some questions relating to that.
As a result that I am a Super Moderator in another forum I know that it is bugging if people don't read the Wiki/FAQs. I have read them, but I don't understand many things :-|
I have handled it to unlock my device, but when I was reading about updating to WM6.1, I saw only things like: "... works only with 6.1", update this, update that, and I don't know in which order.
First of all: Could anyone explain me how to update my Kaiser to WM6.1 and the newest Radio?
Secondly: What is this Duty FW? Is it a modified Rom with added apps?
Finally: I have a normal Kaiser. Not a Vario III, AT&T or something like that. Just the austrian version of the Kaiser with no brandings and so it would be good to have a Firmware without any brandings.
Thx in advance.
BTW:
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Oh, I have forgotten one thing: Is it possible to change the LED blinking in the Phone Mode? To change it from green to blue?
The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.
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The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.
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Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^
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Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^
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You need to make sure before you flash a rom on to your kaiser that you flash hardspl - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679, and than after successfully installing that you can flash the rom of your choice. Please read the first sticky thread under the kiaser rom development form - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282; it has all the info you need pretaining to everything involved when it comes to flashing your kaiser. I strongly recommend you go through it and read the posts it points to that are relevant to flashing.
Once you have done that it is pretty simple process; just do yourself the huge favor and don't flash until you have flashed hardspl or you will brick your phone.
If its still a mystery I would start here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
No pun intended.
@thesire
I have already installed HardSPL. Otherwise I couldn't have unlocked my device with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
I have used just the Sim Unlocker Method. Not the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
That's the reason, why my mobile phone is now with an english language
Just one important question: Do I have to change my current radio for the new Duty Release?
@KDKobes
Why shouldn't I flash THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO?
Some ROM's come with radio's some don't. Most of Dutty's ROM's come with radio's, but if you want to keep your radio then I would suggest finding a ROM without a radio in it or making sure yours is compatible with the WM 6.1 and reflash it back. The 1.65.17.10 radio will lock your phone to that radio only and you will not be able to change it until somebody can fix it. Alot of people are stuck with that radio now and can't change.
Hi!
This week I bought a Tilt secondhand. I'm sure that some work has been done to it. First I noticed that the previous owner has using a non AT&T SIM, I'm an AT&T subscriber, so at least it's sim unlocked. Then I noticed that when I turn it on there's no AT&T animation, there's a HTC animation. I also noticed that when I turn it on or soft reset it, after the "Smart Computing" comes up, there're some numbers in the lower right corner.
R: 1.65.17.56
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.28.00.00
I registered here before I decided to buy the Tilt and I read many of the treads, so I know that many kinds of ROMs and programming exists for this device. So, what I want to know is how do I know what was done, installed, changed to this Tilt?
Thanks
Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds like whoever last owned the device flashed an HTC ROM onto it.
Dave
Easy. Go to Start>Settings>System>Device Information You should be able to read the ROM version installed.
Yeah I guessed they changed the original rom, the rom installed is 3.28.405.0 WWE, DATE 05/02/08, radio 1.65.17.56 & protocol 25.83.40.02H. Still that doesn't tell me much.
I need to know which of all the ROM I read mentioned on the forums is the one installed, I need to know if there's a better alternative & I need to read a whole lot more to understand all my options here.
you just need to flash and find out for yourself don't ask "what is the best rom" its a matter of opinion and you can get banned for asking that.
here are some links to get you started with flashing
ROM flashing FAQ
Introduction to ROM flashing
MODS PLEASE CLOSE THREAD
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I need to know which of all the ROM I read mentioned on the forums is the one installed, ...
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Simply compare it with the SHIPPED ROM List in the WIKI! I am sure they flashed the ORIGINAL SHIPPED HTC Rom ... ! BTW: If it is the original AT&T Tilt, then they have (for sure) performed a SIM UNLOCK and in addition a CID UNLOCK. From my point of view, I do not concider an item as NEW if someone did this to a device!
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... I need to read a whole lot more to understand all my options here.
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Yeah, I guess you really have to do some READ-UP! Start here ...
Thanks Junner2003!!
This is the kind of information I was looking for. I suppose that the higher the rom number, the more updated the rom is?
In general: it is a newer ROM if the number is higher. However, that does not necessary mean that the ROM is better. Newer ROMs contain for sure BUG FIXES for older ROMs but mostly contain a whole bunch of new bugs as well.
If you stick with an older ROM, it has the advantage that often users came up with a BUG FIX for well known issues or at least they can provide some kind of workaround.
OK so I checked the ROM Wiki and found my rom number (3.28.405.0 WWE). Would it be correct to say that the upgrade would be 3.34.721.2 WWE? Is the country code what defines what I can use?
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I must be real slow because I get timeout & have to relogin before I can finish an answer to any post.
Headroom said:
OK so I checked the ROM Wiki and found my rom number (3.28.405.0 WWE). Would it be correct to say that the upgrade would be 3.34.721.2 WWE? Is the country code what defines what I can use?
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I must be real slow because I get timeout & have to relogin before I can finish an answer to any post.
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WWE is World Wide English so if you speak English it would probably not be a good idea to flash a rom in a foreign language like Australian or something.
Yes it is the newest rom , released in Oct
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439408
Hi im from mexico(my english sucks) and i have an atyt tilt i unlocked to can use in my country but since i unlocked the camera doesnt works ,when i open the camera app i can see all the menu and options but is just black i mean you cant take pictures because all is black anyone know what can be?
The info of the bootloader or whatever is.
Security Unlocked
KAISI*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
And system info.
Rom version. 3.57.502.2WWE
Radio version. 1.70.OliNex
Protocol version. 25.65.30.04H
Is there any chance that the camera and other functions works even if the tilt is unlocked
PD. I unlocked the tilt with the KaiserUnlocker.exe
Thanks
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Hi im from mexico(my english sucks) and i have an atyt tilt i unlocked to can use in my country but since i unlocked the camera doesnt works ,when i open the camera app i can see all the menu and options but is just black i mean you cant take pictures because all is black anyone know what can be?
The info of the bootloader or whatever is.
Security Unlocked
KAISI*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
And system info.
Rom version. 3.57.502.2WWE
Radio version. 1.70.OliNex
Protocol version. 25.65.30.04H
Is there any chance that the camera and other functions works even if the tilt is unlocked
PD. I unlocked the tilt with the KaiserUnlocker.exe
Thanks
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Its your radio! Go here and flash another radio! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 If you have anymore questions let us know!
Wrong components wont fit together correctly
Cal-El said:
Its your radio! Go here and flash another radio! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 If you have anymore questions let us know!
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Not only the radio (although I've not seen that version before) but more importantly the version of hardSPL used is for WinMo 6.0 and NOT WinMo 6.1 ROMs. A ROM that starts with 3. something is a WM 6.1 ROM. Altogether a real hotchpotch mixture. The OP needs to carefully check to make sure all the ingredients match up if the recipe is to succeed! Just realised it's the OPs first post so he or she may want to read the wiki (the link near the top of the page) about all of this stuff to get the gist before taking any further steps.
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Not only the radio (although I've not seen that version before) but more importantly the version of hardSPL used is for WinMo 6.0 and NOT WinMo 6.1 ROMs. A ROM that starts with 3. something is a WM 6.1 ROM. Altogether a real hotchpotch mixture. The OP needs to carefully check to make sure all the ingredients match up if the recipe is to succeed! Just realised it's the OPs first post so he or she may want to read the wiki (the link near the top of the page) about all of this stuff to get the gist before taking any further steps.
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Well now im confused my titl have windows mobile 6.1 and i unloked with the kaiserunlocker and i thinkk ive read thatit can be used on 6.1 sooo anyway how i can get the phone unlocked and all functional??? i need to change the rom or radio or what i need to do ?? thanx
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how i can get the phone unlocked and all functional??? i need to change the rom or radio or what i need to do ?? thanx
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Please read all of the wiki for the Kaiser and all the information about which ROMs and Radios go together (links in the Kaiser wiki). Also read up about SPLs and then get back with which specific questions you have that aren't already covered. No one is going to hold the hand of newcommers who haven't fully researched things first. A hint is that the hardSPL versions starting with 3.something are for WM 6.1 ROMs whereas hardSPL versions starting with 1.something are for WM 6.0.
Hi Flying Kiwi
I guess we are or were all noobs at one point and everyone should read and research problems before asking questions. However sometime even when you research and dig through the vast volumes of info you still need a little help. All this info can be a little intimidating especially when you are new to the process. then to get an answer that (No one is going to hold the hand of new commers who haven't fully researched things first.) Well that could even make that person a little more intimidated the next time he/she has a question.
I have been lurking arouind here for a while reading and digging for info on different roms, radios, themes. I have flashed a few roms now and still have questions but am not sure I should ask them because some where in this massive web site there might be a wiki I might have missed, and I too will become one of those noobs who get chastised by a senior member for not doing enough research.
I also have a Tilt and have flashed pda ultimate Full v15 Rom date 01/01/08 radio that is recomended by the rom 1.65.24.36. Protocol 25.94.40.06H.
I used HardSPL 3.29 with windows 6.1 I have even downloaded a few fixes for my camera that have not worked, still a black screen. But I am still trying to get it to work. other roms I have tried Duttys and hyperdragon the camera worked, but quit after a while with hyperdragon. More than likely something I did or installed to make it stop showing up on the screen. We are all unsure at some point.
Not looking for someone to hold my hand just looking for help without the frustration of someone who has been doing this for a while and thinks everyone should be as good as they are at thinking through a problem.
Not trying to step on your toes and hope you don't take this the wrong way, I have seen others with the same frustration in their answer.
Regards,
Tim