What will happen if I flash a different radio? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Kinda new here, so if this is an easy one, please dont flame me.
I've been reading about flashing to an HTC ROM, and want to get rid of the AT&T ROM I currently have.
However, I saw someone say "Be careful about the radio ROM" in a post somewhere (in one of the 47,192 that I've read today...)
I currently have radio ROM 1.27.12.11 - can I flash the radio to any other version to accomodate a different ROM? If so, does anyone have a recommendation for a US user so that I can use an HTC ROM?
Please let me know...I'm really confused by all of this stuff.....
Thanks.
- M

nothing will happen if you do everything right...theres a radio thread that lists every radio in the rom section....check it out

Just make sure if you flash to a WM6.1 Rom to flash to a 6.1 Radio. Have a look on the Kaiser Radio Wiki page. it should tell you which are for which, there is also a sticky in the Kaiser Rom Development forum that has a link to a thread all about Radio's.
If you flash to the wrong Radio, you may have trouble with no sound or wierd camera problems, dont worry, just flash to another radio 'til it all works again.
Thanks,
Dave

One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M

lenknermj said:
One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M
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Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk
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One of these days, I'll learn to THINK before I flap my jaws.
Thanks again to all!!!

Two things to mention here off past experience. Firstly some of the radio downloads also contain OS roms for the phone, so if you want to only flash the radio then look around. As a guide a full rom with OS is around 55-60 mb as a download. A radio only rom is less than 10.
Secondly some of the beta 6.1 window OS will only work with a wm6 radio for example schap's 4.31.
There's a member called Alltheway who has all of these.

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Going back to an older ROM

Okay I am a newbie and I installed the Mr Clean rom which is fine but how would I install the previous rom I had witch was the one from the HTC website? Basically all I am tring to do is change my splash screen and I have no idea how but I want the old rom but it doesn't seem to want to let me roll it back.
OK newbie, try searching the forum for your solutions first - you will be surprised what you might find. :wink: This took me less than a minute to locate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52768
Basicly Faria has put together a bunch of different splash screens which will install in exactly the same fashion as a new ROM would. As it only loads a new slpash screen you will not lose any data. You will also be able to keep the Mr. Clean ROM but have a different splash screen. There are at least 2 HTC splashes listed and the one that I had a quick look at has a preview so you can see which one you prefare before you do the install.
Enjoy...
But is it possible to go back to an older/different rom once you install Mr Clean rom? I currently have a K-jam running the lattest rom, and was thinking about trying Mr Clean rom just to see how it behaves. The only think stopping me is what if I don't like it! Would it be possible to revert back to my current rom?
Can't see any reason why it shouldn't work. As far as I know none of the home cooked ROMs available on the forum have a function that does a compare between the existing and intended ROM versions and prevents any downgrading.
As to whether you will like the newer version, it is hard to see why you wouldn't. Mr Clean's version is spot on if you want the latest OS, the best Radio ROM and a very light extended ROM and with you changing your splash screen to one you like you should be sorted. All you need is to install whatever cab files you need for performance tweaks or network settings.
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Can't see any reason why it shouldn't work. As far as I know none of the home cooked ROMs available on the forum have a function that does a compare between the existing and intended ROM versions and prevents any downgrading.
As to whether you will like the newer version, it is hard to see why you wouldn't. Mr Clean's version is spot on if you want the latest OS, the best Radio ROM and a very light extended ROM and with you changing your splash screen to one you like you should be sorted. All you need is to install whatever cab files you need for performance tweaks or network settings.
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Well it doesn't! :S Once you use Mr Clean rom you can not go back to the official Kjam rom! My only problem with the Mr Clean rom is that there is somewhat increased consumption compared to the rom I had before! Oh well! I guess I'll just have to get used to it!
petrosk73 said:
jt_armstrong said:
Can't see any reason why it shouldn't work. As far as I know none of the home cooked ROMs available on the forum have a function that does a compare between the existing and intended ROM versions and prevents any downgrading.
As to whether you will like the newer version, it is hard to see why you wouldn't. Mr Clean's version is spot on if you want the latest OS, the best Radio ROM and a very light extended ROM and with you changing your splash screen to one you like you should be sorted. All you need is to install whatever cab files you need for performance tweaks or network settings.
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Well it doesn't! :S Once you use Mr Clean rom you can not go back to the official Kjam rom! My only problem with the Mr Clean rom is that there is somewhat increased consumption compared to the rom I had before! Oh well! I guess I'll just have to get used to it!
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Why can't you go back? I've run every ROM sumitter has released. Over the weekend I installed the Mr. Clean ROM . Put on the PDA Mobiz version yesterday. I just went back to the original Cingular 1.08 successfully this morning to double-check this response. IPL, SPL, GSM and OS reflecting changes each time. Now I'm going "back" to sumitter's test2. If you unlocked you SID/sim initially you shouldn't have any problems regarding this. faria documented the procedure back in April.
(yes I love flashing my phone)
I can't believe that the Kjam is that different.....
Steven
chow
Well I must have done something wrong then as my SPL is stack at 2.24! I can use the downgrade rom but then can not upgrage to anything but mr clean!
Well I must have done something wrong then as my SPL is stack at 2.24! I can use the downgrade rom but then can not upgrage to anything but mr clean!
First you need to download and install Button's 1.05 at ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe . Make sure to allow the extended ROM's to execute. All problems solved as Pinhead said.
Original thread is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=07fe38f7fd43a39238c55d01410a0940
Good luck!
Steven
chow

Some questions

Hi!
After installing the HTC Toupad on my Kaiser, I have experienced big problems. Letters on the Keyboard (QWASYX) didn't work and even the onscreen keyboard didn't recognized these letters. So I decided to uninstall the application. But now I have other problems with my Kaiser and so I decided to Hardreset my device. But before I do this, I want to upgrade my Kaiser to WM6.1 and update it to the newest ROM/Radio.
Now I have some questions relating to that.
As a result that I am a Super Moderator in another forum I know that it is bugging if people don't read the Wiki/FAQs. I have read them, but I don't understand many things :-|
I have handled it to unlock my device, but when I was reading about updating to WM6.1, I saw only things like: "... works only with 6.1", update this, update that, and I don't know in which order.
First of all: Could anyone explain me how to update my Kaiser to WM6.1 and the newest Radio?
Secondly: What is this Duty FW? Is it a modified Rom with added apps?
Finally: I have a normal Kaiser. Not a Vario III, AT&T or something like that. Just the austrian version of the Kaiser with no brandings and so it would be good to have a Firmware without any brandings.
Thx in advance.
BTW:
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Oh, I have forgotten one thing: Is it possible to change the LED blinking in the Phone Mode? To change it from green to blue?
The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.
KDKobes said:
The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.
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Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^
alcbottle said:
Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^
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You need to make sure before you flash a rom on to your kaiser that you flash hardspl - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679, and than after successfully installing that you can flash the rom of your choice. Please read the first sticky thread under the kiaser rom development form - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282; it has all the info you need pretaining to everything involved when it comes to flashing your kaiser. I strongly recommend you go through it and read the posts it points to that are relevant to flashing.
Once you have done that it is pretty simple process; just do yourself the huge favor and don't flash until you have flashed hardspl or you will brick your phone.
If its still a mystery I would start here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
No pun intended.
@thesire
I have already installed HardSPL. Otherwise I couldn't have unlocked my device with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
I have used just the Sim Unlocker Method. Not the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
That's the reason, why my mobile phone is now with an english language
Just one important question: Do I have to change my current radio for the new Duty Release?
@KDKobes
Why shouldn't I flash THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO?
Some ROM's come with radio's some don't. Most of Dutty's ROM's come with radio's, but if you want to keep your radio then I would suggest finding a ROM without a radio in it or making sure yours is compatible with the WM 6.1 and reflash it back. The 1.65.17.10 radio will lock your phone to that radio only and you will not be able to change it until somebody can fix it. Alot of people are stuck with that radio now and can't change.

Original HTC Rom

Hi, i am very new to this game. However I have managed to unlock the sim, what I would like to do now is either flash the original HTC rom or Duttys. My question is do I have to flash a specific radio first or just flash. My current radio is 1 27 12 32 and I have hard spl installed.
Thanks
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Hi, i am very new to this game. However I have managed to unlock the sim, what I would like to do now is either flash the original HTC rom or Duttys. My question is do I have to flash a specific radio first or just flash. My current radio is 1 27 12 32 and I have hard spl installed.
Thanks
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if you are flashing the original HTC rom that radio should be fine. However, if you flash dutty's rom's you need a radio that is compatiable with 6.1roms. search the forum or the thread that is associated with the rom you want to flash.
If the Radio you have is not compatable with the ROM you are using (very common on the latest ROM/radio releases) the OS will probably refuse to boot.
If this is the case, just load the bootloader screen and flash a compatable radio.
Most chefs lift the compatable radios in the 1st post.
Ta
Dave
Ey up...
I installed the nothrills ROM over my T-Mobile default one. I didn't even think about radio. It seems to work fine. Do I need to worry about this?
No, but you might get better reception/battery life with a more compatible radio
... am I right in thinking the Nothrills ROM changes the radio too? It seems to say it does on the forum page. Sorry for asking, but I'm not clued up at all about this kind of thing.
mikeinashed said:
... am I right in thinking the Nothrills ROM changes the radio too? It seems to say it does on the forum page. Sorry for asking, but I'm not clued up at all about this kind of thing.
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That's what it looks like.
If you look in "Device Information" you can see the versions you are running.
If it matches the first post then you flashed the radio.
Dave
Yep, it's flashed that too. Thanks for such a quick answer.

Where to start?

Ok, some of you may remember me from the Wizard world. I am the chef for the "Jag" series and "NTS" of roms there. They are old roms I know, but then i decided to be stupid and went to the SP world with a Moto Q9h, 6 months in, I miss my touch screen. I have an AT&T Tilt on the way now. So, to the main point of this post.
Where do I start with unlocking the Tilt, and also, Since I am on AT&T what is the deal with the radios. I know I want to use a non standard ROM on this phone since bloat ware pisses me off.
How do i determine what radio with what rom and so on?
Thanks for your help. I have tried to search the forum for answers but I am totally lost here. Guess I need to leave behind the world of the Wizard and one radio for all roms. LOL.
I missed you guys!!!!
Re the unblocking I think that id the CID Unlock guff you have to run (don't quote me, my phone was already unlocked)
Then read the pages on flash tutorial which turns out to be easy to do and then pick a ROM to flash and away you go
Wow 738 posts and you don't know how to read stickys.
Check the links in my sig (and just about anyone elses) or the sticky in just about every forum for the kaiser.
welcome back.
Ok, So just to test my understanding, I need to check each ROM release and see which HardSPL they used to make the ROM.
Example:
The Garmin.DK.1 WM 6.1 Premium ROM states the instructions are to install HardSPL 3.56. I have read how to do this and it seems pretty self explanitory in the instructions. After that, then I flash the rom, once the rom is complete, I do a hard reset on the phone.
Am I correct in those steps?
Now, my next question.
I have read here in the wiki that I need to ensure that I am using the correct Radio for my phone. Confused here a little bit.
Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 has this little disclaimer on the second post,
There will be 3 roms compatable with the latest AT&T Radios 1.65.14.06 and Radio 1.65.17.10
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Does this mean I have to hunt down a specific version of the radio in order to use this ROM?
Thanks again for the help.
738 posts does not mean I should know how to read a sticky. Most of the stickys on the Wizard forum werent stickys when I read them....
And I have worked with alot of the authors of those stickys too.
There are a few things you want to do:
First, install a hardspl I would recommend 3.28, 3.29, or 3.56
Second, security unlock your device
Third, Flash a Rom. A majority of the rom's here come with radio's. The best radio's available right now are 1.65.20.29 (great with getting a quick gps fix and fairly stable) 1.58.25.17 (which is compatible with almost every cooked rom here which offers great battery life and fairly stable reception at least in my area) or the newest available radio which is in my signature (offers decent gps fix, great reception and a decent battery life.
It is easier to learn as you go rather than attempt to cram it in all at once.
Good luck
Thank you red.
I just dont want to brick my tilt first attempt. I guess what im looking for is a quick rom, very stable and has no bloatware.
I think iwill work on the device with standard rom first so that I can learn the device itself. Then i will start reading rom release posts...... every page.
I like to have all info before i take the first step. expecially on something this expensive.

AT&T Tilt2 custom ROM risks

Investigating replacing ROM on my tilt2 with a custom 6.5.1 ROM and have several questions.
Question#1 What are the risks to performing this?
Question #2 How do I backup the entire phone so I can restore it like it was when I opened out of the box from AT&T? (even after a hard SPL)
Question #3 If I need to return the unit for any reason back to AT&T, would I be able to do this after flashing the ROM and performing hard SPL ? Or will they detect this has been done and deny me?
Thanks
I'll try to answer the best I can. Anyone please chime in...
A1) Primary risk is permanently messing up your phone if you don't perform the HardSPL correctly! Other than that, every other risk is minor when you're actually flashing the ROM becuase it seems to me like its close to impossible to brick your phone with HardSPL.
A2) There is no REAL way to backup your entire ROM like you can in Android (Nandroid backups). However, there's always the stock AT&T ROM that you can flash back and than use programs such as Microsoft MyPhone to backup and restore your personal data.
A3) You can Relock your phone using the relocker. This is available in one of the stickys...probably the one with the HardSPL.
Anymore questions, please ask!
yeah
I think rvashi pretty much nailed it all, however if you ever do have to revert to stock make sure to read all the info! You'll need to revert to stock ROM and Radio. I've never done it on my Rhodium but on my Raphael it was quite easy... I assume its no different on Rhodium!
Just read the stickies and check out the wiki! I made sure I'd read through the procedure thoroughly prior to starting and had no issues! Of course I've been flashing ROMs starting with the Kaiser and not much has changed from that device procedure wise!
Not all roms include radios. Ive never flashed a radio yet, on my kaiser or my tilt 2, but it sounds just as easy as loading the roms.
Here, i have a question to ask. Whats the difference between a rom that lists WWE and one that doesnt?
carhigh said:
Whats the difference between a rom that lists WWE and one that doesnt?
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WWE is short for 'World Wide English' as far as I know.
carhigh said:
whats the difference between a rom that lists wwe and one that doesnt?
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+1 .
qinstaller said:
+1 .
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WWE means that the language of the phone will be english, if you install a ROM with something else like FRA then the phone will be in that language, in this case french.

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