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HTC 3600 and Dopod WM6

did someone tried the dopod wm6 rom on an HTC 3600?
Thanks

I did.
Works very well for me. No bug at all. I'm happy with it.

what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks

gerazzo said:
what about the fix time of the GPS?
any changes in speed of the whole system?
and the battery life time?
Thanks
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I've upgraded my P3600 to WM6 (Australian ROM)
GPS - First detection is slow IMHO. After that it runs great.
Changes in speed - No changes so far I have noticed, in other words it still runs fast
Battery life - Is great depending on your usage. Just disable your infrared. That alone makes a lot of difference.

Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
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gerazzo said:
Where did you get the image ROM?
What is the difference between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM?
Thanks
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Does it matter where I got it from?.. Or do you want to know where you can get it?..
http://rapidshare.com/files/42337174/D810_ANZ_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip
I do not know what and if there is a difference is between DOPOD and HTC Australian ROM.
I just know that the ROM I used didn't have customized DOPOD screenlogo's/programs etc installed AND that I have only one issue since running this ROM but I think it's WM6 related:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318013

All the OFFICIAL ROMs providing wm6 for trinity, so far, are from Dopod, including the rapidshare link above.
This is why it's called: 'D810' and not HTC P3600 in the link.
You may notice very few Dopod's customization, but it's still a ROM from Dopod, you can see, for instance, some Dopod's ringtones in the alarms and ring lists.
As far as the localized operator settings are concerned, I can't tell, since I did not install their extended ROM, I don't have any either, except for the ring tones I just mentioned before.
Regarding the new ROM performances, I think it has increased a lot from the previous April wm5 release from HTC: faster, better look etc.
The GPS is a little bit faster, but not much faster, but I think it has more to do with the new radio.
For example I could not get any fix with the 1.46.00.01 one from SEA. But it works quite well with the 1.46.20.01, from ANZ.
The most impressive improvement is the wifi connexion, which is stable, and fast. (it was a disaster with previous radios, especially the 1.38.x series.

Just to make myself more clear:
1)
I know all the trinity ROMs are made by HTC. What I meant is not 'made by Dopod' but, branded, designed for Dopod.
2)
I have read here before that wifi has nothing to do with radio but just with the ROM itself. I don't know, but what I can tell is that, the previous wm5 plus 1.38/1.41 radio series had always given me poor wifi performance.
But wm6 with 1.46. series is perfect in terms of wifi perfs.

At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
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gerazzo said:
At last do you think that flashing with an official ROM (Asian or Australian doesn't matter) i will not have any king of strange problem like with the wm6 coocked roms?
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No, there are no garantees.
I want wm6 but i want all the features work on the device too.
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I use the Australian ROM and all the features of my P3600 work.
Thanks for your patience, but i'm going to buy my HTC p3600 nad i will do only if i can have a perfectly working WM6 device with working GPS.
Thanks
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Since there are no garantees there is a choice to be made. The P3600 is still unique in his features. It's the ONLY Window Mobile based PDA with 3G enabled and GPS onboard.
And what you do want to consider is that even if HTC releases a WM6 for Europe, there are no garantees that the ROM won't have any flauds.

Exactly, there is never 100% garantee to be fully satisfied and get no default or bug. This is why the reseller is there to offer you a one year garantee, so if you fancy the specs of the device go for it.
I don't want to start any debate about which programmers have more skills and more time to do proper job.
Individual ROM cooks are amazing and none of us will ever reach their skill levels, and they do it for free, just for the pleasure of sharing with us, so we owe them the greatest respect for that.
But obviously , after having tried both, I confirm that there are less conflicts and bugs in the official ROM than in the cooked ones.
Also because they take more risks by adapting applications that where not designed for the device (ex: touchflo and kaiser interfaces in trinity)
But I do believe that new cooked ROM from now on will be far more reliable than they were in before (wm6 ones), mainly because they now have a stable basis (the official dopod release) to make their own developments on.
So the difference might be slighter and slighter in those respects.

Explicit instructions for a dummy
Does this ROM update go as easy as the GPS unlock update?
I've done ROM updates that made you go through several activities and I just screw them up.
I'm looking for the simple version.
Jerry

Tried this and no luck
I have an HTC branded and unlocked P3600
I got this error:
Error 294 - Invalid Vendor ID
This update utility cannot be used for your PDA Phone.
Ideas?

No, it is not as easy as the GPS update ROM, and cannot be compare as you just experienced it because:
- it's not a HTC release, it's a DOPOD release, aiming at Dopod D810 clients, from South-east Asia and Australia-New-zealand.
- the ROM is heavy protected by its SPL to not install onto other CID devices.
- The previous Hard-spl crack doesn't work anymore and if you try to install it: luckily u'll get an error it will refuse to install, unluckily, it will get stuck in the middle of the install and you might even brick your device.
That's why you could not manage to install it. There are plenty of topics over this issue on this forum, you can try one of those workarounds, but take all responsibility if something unlucky happens during the upgrade process.
By the way: SIM unlocked, doesn't mean CID unlock, you can install any SIM card you want from any provider, but your phone's CID still belong to a language, a geographical area, and a manufacturer, which is HTC, not DOPOD ;-)

Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios

pinocchios said:
Come on guys...
read and use your brain..!!
Use this SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
and flash this rom. works for me like a charme. I've an normal HTC P3600 German Version - no special unlock.
Pinocchios
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no chance without spl bla bla stuff?
i just want to excute and install :-(

that is it..
read the link I gave you. it is very simple.
copy this file to your pocketpc and execute it! works in 10seconds..

I clearly should do more reading before attempting this
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?

I told you so...
1)
Don't think it's easy and simple, every one got different skills and experience and you don't help the noobies by saying "flashing a SPL protected ROM is 'easy and simple, just use your brain'...
Better being warned of the worst, if you want to do your best...
2)
There is a sticky thread in this forum about 'how to unbrick or unstuck you phone after having failed to flash the Dopod's ROM.
Read it CAREFULLY and try it out.
3)
Next time you try, use Olibro SPL or, more simple and safe for beginners, try to flash a ROM without SPL/IPL.

hitekfun said:
Well, from you link, i can see that the boot unlocker works but i can't get back to my device because it's stuck in a boot loader rainbow screen.
How do i get it back to the OS?
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can you give more info on where you're stuck? (what is shown on bootloader screen). i'm assuming you've tried a soft reset to exit bootloader...
it's not that hard to flash a rom, the official dopod wm6 included. follow the guide here which will allow you to flash it without the new spl. it's still recommended to flash hard spl before a ROM flash to be safe.

What will happen if I flash a different radio?

Kinda new here, so if this is an easy one, please dont flame me.
I've been reading about flashing to an HTC ROM, and want to get rid of the AT&T ROM I currently have.
However, I saw someone say "Be careful about the radio ROM" in a post somewhere (in one of the 47,192 that I've read today...)
I currently have radio ROM 1.27.12.11 - can I flash the radio to any other version to accomodate a different ROM? If so, does anyone have a recommendation for a US user so that I can use an HTC ROM?
Please let me know...I'm really confused by all of this stuff.....
Thanks.
- M

nothing will happen if you do everything right...theres a radio thread that lists every radio in the rom section....check it out

Just make sure if you flash to a WM6.1 Rom to flash to a 6.1 Radio. Have a look on the Kaiser Radio Wiki page. it should tell you which are for which, there is also a sticky in the Kaiser Rom Development forum that has a link to a thread all about Radio's.
If you flash to the wrong Radio, you may have trouble with no sound or wierd camera problems, dont worry, just flash to another radio 'til it all works again.
Thanks,
Dave

One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M

lenknermj said:
One more quick question about flashing ROMs....
SHould I remove my SIM and SDcard before flashing?
- M
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Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
Precaution gets you further on this long and winding road of flashing.
Of course you should
Cheers,
Dirk
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One of these days, I'll learn to THINK before I flap my jaws.
Thanks again to all!!!

Two things to mention here off past experience. Firstly some of the radio downloads also contain OS roms for the phone, so if you want to only flash the radio then look around. As a guide a full rom with OS is around 55-60 mb as a download. A radio only rom is less than 10.
Secondly some of the beta 6.1 window OS will only work with a wm6 radio for example schap's 4.31.
There's a member called Alltheway who has all of these.

Some questions

Hi!
After installing the HTC Toupad on my Kaiser, I have experienced big problems. Letters on the Keyboard (QWASYX) didn't work and even the onscreen keyboard didn't recognized these letters. So I decided to uninstall the application. But now I have other problems with my Kaiser and so I decided to Hardreset my device. But before I do this, I want to upgrade my Kaiser to WM6.1 and update it to the newest ROM/Radio.
Now I have some questions relating to that.
As a result that I am a Super Moderator in another forum I know that it is bugging if people don't read the Wiki/FAQs. I have read them, but I don't understand many things :-|
I have handled it to unlock my device, but when I was reading about updating to WM6.1, I saw only things like: "... works only with 6.1", update this, update that, and I don't know in which order.
First of all: Could anyone explain me how to update my Kaiser to WM6.1 and the newest Radio?
Secondly: What is this Duty FW? Is it a modified Rom with added apps?
Finally: I have a normal Kaiser. Not a Vario III, AT&T or something like that. Just the austrian version of the Kaiser with no brandings and so it would be good to have a Firmware without any brandings.
Thx in advance.
BTW:
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Oh, I have forgotten one thing: Is it possible to change the LED blinking in the Phone Mode? To change it from green to blue?

The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.

KDKobes said:
The letter problem you were having was a simple fix with a cab that can be found all across this forum. All the ROM's can be found in the ROM Development forum and as far as what has been changed, modified, added, programs list, can all be found in the FIRST or SECOND post of each of the ROM's. So you will just have to read through them and find one that suits you best as they all have something different. Most of the radio's that can only be used on 6.1 ROM's will say "Will only work on 6.1 ROM's". And I would like to add even though you don't have at&t DON'T FLASH THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO.
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Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^

alcbottle said:
Ok, thx first of all. Dutys rom sounds nice. What do I have to do first? It is still a little mystery for me ^^
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You need to make sure before you flash a rom on to your kaiser that you flash hardspl - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679, and than after successfully installing that you can flash the rom of your choice. Please read the first sticky thread under the kiaser rom development form - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282; it has all the info you need pretaining to everything involved when it comes to flashing your kaiser. I strongly recommend you go through it and read the posts it points to that are relevant to flashing.
Once you have done that it is pretty simple process; just do yourself the huge favor and don't flash until you have flashed hardspl or you will brick your phone.

If its still a mystery I would start here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
No pun intended.

@thesire
I have already installed HardSPL. Otherwise I couldn't have unlocked my device with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039
I have used just the Sim Unlocker Method. Not the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
That's the reason, why my mobile phone is now with an english language
Just one important question: Do I have to change my current radio for the new Duty Release?
@KDKobes
Why shouldn't I flash THE 1.65.17.10 RADIO?

Some ROM's come with radio's some don't. Most of Dutty's ROM's come with radio's, but if you want to keep your radio then I would suggest finding a ROM without a radio in it or making sure yours is compatible with the WM 6.1 and reflash it back. The 1.65.17.10 radio will lock your phone to that radio only and you will not be able to change it until somebody can fix it. Alot of people are stuck with that radio now and can't change.

Slow Tilt after upgrade to stock 6.1

Hey Guys,
I upgraded to the 6.1 solely for the threaded SMS feature. I've noticed though that it's responding a lot slower compared to before the upgrade. I didn't install AT&T bloatware. Another thing I've noticed is that the touch is significantly inaccurate compared to before. Now it's a task to type in a number (using the stock dialer or even a better one). It was much better before the upgrade.
Anyone seem these issues too?

ive been having the same problems. plus my keyboard is really slow and sometimes doent register what i press. have you noticed that about yours?

i had the same issue.
i got rid of it after having that rom for 11hrs ..
i was reading earlier that there was a clean version of that rom floating around.. search and see what u come up with

zlamma said:
ive been having the same problems. plus my keyboard is really slow and sometimes doent register what i press. have you noticed that about yours?
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Yup.. have the exact same problems.. haven't really installed a lot of programs tho.. I'm surprised that updating to 6.1 would have this many problems..

Same problem here after official upgrade for a german kaiser.

Same problemi with italian official ROM.
I try to upgrade to non official rom but there is same problem.

zlamma said:
ive been having the same problems. plus my keyboard is really slow and sometimes doent register what i press. have you noticed that about yours?
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I have the same thing. Just noticed that it's mostly the "h" and "r" keys that miss a key press. Doesn't really make any sense. If I just press them repeatedly, like "rhrhrhrhrhrhrhrh" it comes out like "hrhhhhrhrhhh". Really annoying.

I don't think you mentioned what ROM you are using. There are issues with 6.1 if you have not updated your SPL. Please search out Jockey SPL. Go to the Kaiser Development forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378, and read in there a bit.
I have been using the ROMeOS ROM, which is 6.1, and have not had any issues at all. There are other good ones in the Kaisder Development forum, too. So you can pick out what you like. You can get a good 6.1 ROM. The issues are not with the ROMs, they are often with either the SPL, the radio, or third party apps. Good luck.

kimtyson said:
I don't think you mentioned what ROM you are using. There are issues with 6.1 if you have not updated your SPL. Please search out Jockey SPL. Go to the Kaiser Development forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378, and read in there a bit.
I have been using the ROMeOS ROM, which is 6.1, and have not had any issues at all. There are other good ones in the Kaisder Development forum, too. So you can pick out what you like. You can get a good 6.1 ROM. The issues are not with the ROMs, they are often with either the SPL, the radio, or third party apps. Good luck.
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As I mentioned in the first post, I'm using the official/stock ROM from HTC's website..

did you hard reset after install?
Not atreofan released stripped down official att 6.1 and from the looks of it seems to be great, might try it

"As I mentioned in the first post, I'm using the official/stock ROM from HTC's website". Yeah, I guess I missed it in the title, duh.
You might want to check out the rest of my post, though. Maybe something in there that can help out, i.e. SPL, radio version, a different ROM.
Maybe get the stock ROM from XDA rather than the HTC site and try again. What have you done to the phone so far? What version of SPL do you have? What radio?

Not really made any other upgrades. How do I check the versions of each?

From System Device Info ->
ROM version: 3.57.502.2 WWE
ROM date: 7/17/08
Radio version: 1.65.21.18
Protocol Version: 25.88.40.050H

I also use the official htc rom as well as hardspl (used to unlock my phone):
3.28.407 ger
1.65.17.56
25.83.40.02H

I have the same problem also. I actually have to think about typing slower. If I type to fast, the tilt will miss letters.

Interestingly, after I upgraded my Kaiser to 6.1 using the official Orange upgrade, I have the opposite effect.
Everything seems faster (especially typing).
Are you guys using the correct SPL for the ROM version you have? Unilke 6.0 ROMS, it is suppsed to affect performance noticeably in 6.1.

How can I find out which SPL version I have? Which SPL should I be running?

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How can I find out which SPL version I have? Which SPL should I be running?
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To find out which SPL version you have, hold down the camera button and soft rest. IT will bring you up to the bootloaded screen. The SPL version can be found there. Just soft reset again to get out.
Now regarding, which SPL version you should use, it might be better if you post that qustion in the ROM development thread of the ROM you are using (if cooked). If not, then I'm not sure... Hopefuly someone more knowledgable will hop in and enlighten us
Have a look at the following two threads though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395836
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922

alt236 said:
To find out which SPL version you have, hold down the camera button and soft rest. IT will bring you up to the bootloaded screen. The SPL version can be found there. Just soft reset again to get out.
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SPL version is 3.56.0000
It also said CPLD-8
Thanks for the input..

I had installed hardspl, now reflashed the original kaiser spl and the issue is gone.

Orange Branded HD - Upgrade ROM

Hi Guys
Ive done a search but cant find anything specific so im starting a a new thread.
I have a Touch HD which I got through Orange UK.
Rom version sis: 1.19.61.1 WWE
At the moment im told that I cant receive any updates directly from the HTC site and orange dont really seem to care about offering a good after service.
So my option is to flash my phone with a new ROM, however which version to go for is my biggest question and I really dont have any idea. I understand the flash proceure. WIll any ROM allow updates from HTC site?
Thanks
Craig

hi
i also have a uk branded orange touch hd
i flashed it with the latest official rom from htc (the one that needs a serial number to download and the orange serials dont work)
just use a serial provided in the offical rom upgrade thread to download the rom from htc and use uspl 2.5 to flash it
i used uspl 2.5 to upgrade the rom
all info can be found using the search fuction on this forum
i also made a dump of the phone before i flashed it, just need someone to rebuild the .raw files to a flashable rom
hope this helps
math

Nice one Math, that helps a lot! Will give this a go over the weekend.
Craig

Ok, where do we start? Which ROM you choose is really a bit like asking what car should I choose to buy. The choice is entirely yours based on what you want and what you like.
I think the first question to ask yourself is what do you want? What Windows Mobile OS do you want? WM6.1, WM 6.1 with Touch flow, WM 6.1 with the latest version of Touch flow or WM 6.5 Beta. I'm sure there are more but lets keep it simple.
WM 6.1 or 6.5? HTC Touch Flow or not? What is your native language as you have nothing set in your profile etc?
May I suggest you have a look through the first few posts of each of the ROM threads for this month and see what takes your fancy. If you ask ten people you will get ten possibly different answers.
Look at peoples signatures and see what most people use as most display what current ROM they are using. Maybe try a few, but I suggest use the safest route and follow the instructions to the letter.
Its always a matter of personal opinion but I like Duttys current WM6.1 with TF3D XT3. It's the latest and well tested with fewer bugs than the stock ROM from HTC (IMHO) and is based on the latest technology from the next gen HTC phones.
Do your research and enjoy!
H

cb25 said:
Hi Guys
Ive done a search but cant find anything specific so im starting a a new thread.
I have a Touch HD which I got through Orange UK.
Rom version sis: 1.19.61.1 WWE
At the moment im told that I cant receive any updates directly from the HTC site and orange dont really seem to care about offering a good after service.
So my option is to flash my phone with a new ROM, however which version to go for is my biggest question and I really dont have any idea. I understand the flash proceure. WIll any ROM allow updates from HTC site?
Thanks
Craig
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Yes, the choose is your, but as an Orange user myself. I was bored with the official HTC Orange Rom and decided to flash my rom. Did manage to keep the back up on original rom in cause of warranty reason. I have try quite a lot of cook rom the only problem I had was mainly with battery life wasn’t good and will not last for a day or so. Since with this rom, HD|ROM||WWE|| ** EnergyROM HD Series 21042 - Final Topaz Manila ** || Build 40909 || man!! The software and battery life is incredible. Yes I would recommend to you

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Yes, the choose is your, but as an Orange user myself. I was bored with the official HTC Orange Rom and decided to flash my rom. Did manage to keep the back up on original rom in cause of warranty reason. I have try quite a lot of cook rom the only problem I had was mainly with battery life wasn’t good and will not last for a day or so. Since with this rom, HD|ROM||WWE|| ** EnergyROM HD Series 21042 - Final Topaz Manila ** || Build 40909 || man!! The software and battery life is incredible. Yes I would recommend to you
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where did u get this rom from? link?

couple of newbie questions. I also have orange phone ...
If I upgrade to the latest HTC rom will I loose all my programs installed in the phones memory?
Will I loose my programs/they stop working (e.g. Tomtom) that have been reigstered with the phone (in add/remove programs) on my memory card?
Can I restore everything from a backup (sprite) ?
Is there any way of goign back to the older ROM if I need to send my phone back for warranty reasons?
Thanks
James

james00000007 said:
couple of newbie questions. I also have orange phone ...
If I upgrade to the latest HTC rom will I loose all my programs installed in the phones memory?
Will I loose my programs/they stop working (e.g. Tomtom) that have been reigstered with the phone (in add/remove programs) on my memory card?
Can I restore everything from a backup (sprite) ?
Is there any way of goign back to the older ROM if I need to send my phone back for warranty reasons?
Thanks
James
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yes you will lose all programs, have to be installed again
if you take backup from your current ROM you can restore it later

jammieeeee said:
where did u get this rom from? link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502157

MrKaon said:
yes you will lose all programs, have to be installed again
if you take backup from your current ROM you can restore it later
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Thanks for info. Just to clarify a couple of things..
Will my sprite backup restore all programs and settings to the new rom version?
How can I backup my existing ROM? I'm guessing the official ROM is a HSPL?
Thanks
James

james00000007 said:
Thanks for info. Just to clarify a couple of things..
Will my sprite backup restore all programs and settings to the new rom version?
How can I backup my existing ROM? I'm guessing the official ROM is a HSPL?
Thanks
James
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USPL and HSPL these are different method of putting new ROM to your phone.
you will find more information in here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
with this method you can get a backup of your current ROM
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/How_to_dump_and_reconstruct_a_Hermes_ROM

MrKaon said:
USPL and HSPL these are different method of putting new ROM to your phone.
you will find more information in here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
with this method you can get a backup of your current ROM
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/How_to_dump_and_reconstruct_a_Hermes_ROM
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Thanks again. I never thought it would be so complicated. I thougth someone would have created a GUI for this stuff, its amazing what they have GUI's for these days and this is still command line.
Still unsure as to wether I can restore my sprite back up after going to 1.56 rom though. With the amount I have installed its probably not worth the effort for now.