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Battery drains quickly... while plugged in! wtf?!

okay so this is a new problem... if I plug my tilt in to my car charger, the battery actually drains faster than if it's unplugged... about a percentage a minute... when I come home and plug it... it charges regularly. I've tried 2 different roms, 3 different radios and 2 different car chargers... any ideas? been doing a lot of soft resets lately, wondering if that would burn the battery out?

new revelation!
okay so after my car charger "drains" my battery... I put the regular charger in and charge it from 74% to 85% in about 20 minutes... then I took the battery out and put it back in.. upon reboot my battery is at 97%... does this mean the car charger is somehow ACTUALLY charging the battery but for some reason making the phone think it's discharging it... this is tricky.

ericmcintire said:
okay so after my car charger "drains" my battery... I put the regular charger in and charge it from 74% to 85% in about 20 minutes... then I took the battery out and put it back in.. upon reboot my battery is at 97%... does this mean the car charger is somehow ACTUALLY charging the battery but for some reason making the phone think it's discharging it... this is tricky.
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is the battery heating up while it is charging in the car?

I don't think so... I'm not 100% but I'd probabally remember something liek that
I just remember it was dropping like crazy after I plugged it in.. once it jumped from 39% to 34% when I was using it while it was plugged in for 4 minutes

ericmcintire said:
I don't think so... I'm not 100% but I'd probabally remember something liek that
I just remember it was dropping like crazy after I plugged it in.. once it jumped from 39% to 34% when I was using it while it was plugged in for 4 minutes
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sorry, should have asked in my first post but are you running TomTom or similar?

no, no abnormal software... even turned off the 3g and wifi... I'm starting to think it's not actual battery drainage because of how fast it's dying.... it dropped to 2% and shut itself off last night when I plugged it in.. took 5 minutes to go from 28% to "dead" then when I was charging it in my house that night it slowly went from 0% to 45% then it jumped to 98% and was full.. I'm so confused

Maybe let the battery drain out all the way so the phone won't even turn on, and then charge it back up. I've never heard of this happening before, but I know the phone has to "calibrate" the battery, for lack of a better word. Draining the battery all the way lets the phone set a "zero point". I dunno if it will help, but it would be worth a try.

haha it kinda did that on it's own last night... recharged it, it's got the same problem as of 20 minutes ago.. maybe it'll work itself out.... but I really need to be able to plug it into my car.

This is my second Tilt I'm playing with as the first one after I messed around with started to act funny.
1) Battery would be 100% - I wake up 6 hours later and it's dead.
2) Network consistently was being dropped even though it stated I was connected.
I've spend 5 hours on this site reading now and still don't know if I've learned much lol
Good luck to you...

Check the USB port. Is it slightly bent on the right side? I had this same problem & had to RMA. I confirmed that there was higher discharge using SK Tools & Anton Tomov Batery Meter. However, home charger still worked fine.

GSLEON3 said:
Check the USB port. Is it slightly bent on the right side? I had this same problem & had to RMA. I confirmed that there was higher discharge using SK Tools & Anton Tomov Batery Meter. However, home charger still worked fine.
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YES! the usb port looks a little messed up on the very last pin.. WTF? it looks squished or something... RMA? that doesn't sound good.. I hope I dont have to RMA... what's RMA? but yes there is definately something messed up about the right side of the USB port

ericmcintire said:
haha it kinda did that on it's own last night... recharged it, it's got the same problem as of 20 minutes ago.. maybe it'll work itself out.... but I really need to be able to plug it into my car.
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Hmm... I would charge to 100% (or near enough) unplug it and then put the media player on and play it solid on repeat until the battery dies. Then charge it up to full again and see if there is any difference. These batteries don't have a memory as such, but as the previous poster said it may have got itself slightly 'confused'

Same problem here with a carcomm cradle for the TyTN II,. When I plug my phone in, the orange light comes on, the phone says it is charging but the battery just seems to drain faster and after a couple of minutes the light goes out. I have BatteryStatus installed, when I connect the phone to my pc with the standard usb/synch cable BatteryStatus shows +0mW for a short while and after a few seconds it'll say it's at +1300mW or something like that.
In the car when I put the phone in the cradle it'll show +0mW for a few seconds, then around -250mW (Idle) and the orange light turns off...
But I actually caught it charging once with +22mW when turning it on (from standby). I tried all obvious things, softresetting the phone while charging etc. But nothing helps, the cradle is connected straight to the carbattery.

botmans said:
Same problem here with a carcomm cradle for the TyTN II,. When I plug my phone in, the orange light comes on, the phone says it is charging but the battery just seems to drain faster and after a couple of minutes the light goes out. I have BatteryStatus installed, when I connect the phone to my pc with the standard usb/synch cable BatteryStatus shows +0mW for a short while and after a few seconds it'll say it's at +1300mW or something like that.
In the car when I put the phone in the cradle it'll show +0mW for a few seconds, then around -250mW (Idle) and the orange light turns off...
But I actually caught it charging once with +22mW when turning it on (from standby). I tried all obvious things, softresetting the phone while charging etc. But nothing helps, the cradle is connected straight to the carbattery.
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check your USB port... is your's messed up too?? you know what? I probabally accidently poked the stylus in mine while trying to reset a couple days ago... since I tried to do 20 resets when I was rom upgrading and adding software...

ericmcintire said:
check your USB port... is your's messed up too?? you know what? I probabally accidently poked the stylus in mine while trying to reset a couple days ago... since I tried to do 20 resets when I was rom upgrading and adding software...
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Just checked and yes it is, stylus thing happened to me also once....
It's a little bend downwards (when having the screen on top) @ the last 2 pins...

well looks like we've narrowed down the problem.. and it looks like the fix is gonna cost $80!!
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
anyone know of a solution we could try out? my other phone (s710) had a USB cover so this never happened

ericmcintire said:
well looks like we've narrowed down the problem.. and it looks like the fix is gonna cost $80!!
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
anyone know of a solution we could try out? my other phone (s710) had a USB cover so this never happened
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What kind of carcharger do you have? Been reading about this problem and alot of ppl say the charger needs to be able to put out at least 1A for the phone to charge, I used some cheap cigarettelighter charger that was rated @ 650mA. It worked but charged so slowly that it would've taken days to fully charge. And besides that it didn't last long, 3 days before it blew the fuse and some more parts (worked for 2 secs after replacing the fuse)

I've tried several different ones... I think that since 3 people on this site all seem to have a "crushed" pin in our USB ports that's probabally the issue... now.. about a fix...

The amperage on your charger doesn't really matter. 1 amp is recommended so that you can use the device while charging, and the rate at which the battery charges does not diminish. If you used a 500mA charger, and had wi-fi & gps on, and media player blasting, for example, the battery may not charge at all because all the power coming from the charger is being used immediately. 1 amp chargers remedy this problem. Hope this makes sense, I've been having problems finding the correct words to express my ideas lately. Probably just stressed out! It sounds like the bent pin on the usb port may be resulting in a V+ pin shorting to ground (or V-). Which would drain the battery quickly. When you use battery power or charge the battery, it is normal for the battery to get warm. When you plug yours into the car charger (the one that drains it) does the battery get abnormally hot? This would indicate a short. Maybe try to put a real thin piece of film or something under the bent part of the port to insulate it while charging and see if that fixes it. This might offer a temporary fix until you get a new port. Maybe you could spend some time learning how to solder! I had to fix a broken port on a wizard a those solder points are friggin' tiny. Hope I could help. Good luck.

sWuRv said:
The amperage on your charger doesn't really matter. 1 amp is recommended so that you can use the device while charging, and the rate at which the battery charges does not diminish. If you used a 500mA charger, and had wi-fi & gps on, and media player blasting, for example, the battery may not charge at all because all the power coming from the charger is being used immediately. 1 amp chargers remedy this problem. Hope this makes sense, I've been having problems finding the correct words to express my ideas lately. Probably just stressed out! It sounds like the bent pin on the usb port may be resulting in a V+ pin shorting to ground (or V-). Which would drain the battery quickly. When you use battery power or charge the battery, it is normal for the battery to get warm. When you plug yours into the car charger (the one that drains it) does the battery get abnormally hot? This would indicate a short. Maybe try to put a real thin piece of film or something under the bent part of the port to insulate it while charging and see if that fixes it. This might offer a temporary fix until you get a new port. Maybe you could spend some time learning how to solder! I had to fix a broken port on a wizard a those solder points are friggin' tiny. Hope I could help. Good luck.
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this sounds like it makes a lot of sense... I've got big clumsy hands, man I wish I had been more careful... well looks like I'm gonna be out $80! but quick question.. why would the wall charger operate normally while the car charger reverses charge?

Series of Unfortunate Events!!

Ok where do I begin. I love this phone but it's driving me nuts and that's supposed to be your girlfriend/wifes job. My phone seems to be charging EXTREMELY slow. I have batterystatus installed on my phone and when the phone is charging you see the progress bar moving. I've been charging my phone for about 2 1/2 hours now and I'm only at 57 percent, not even using it or having email come to my phone. I'm coming to the conclusion that my battery is shot and I will have to get a new one. Last night I was using my phone and it was charging by my bed. I wake up this morning and the orange LED is on (indicating that it's charging) I'm like wtf it should be green because I've slept for 8 HOURS! I unhook the phone and the battery is at 0 percent and the phone just shuts off on me. I charge the phone and managed to get it to 25 percent before leaving for work. Right now I have my phone plugged into the wall and its taking forever to charge. Should I reflash my ROM and RADIO again. I've been holding off on buying an extended battery because I'm waiting for Seido 3000 Mah Battery.

It's a cheaper option to reflash before spending the money on a new batt.

gqstatus0685 said:
Ok where do I begin. I love this phone but it's driving me nuts and that's supposed to be your girlfriend/wifes job. My phone seems to be charging EXTREMELY slow. I have batterystatus installed on my phone and when the phone is charging you see the progress bar moving. I've been charging my phone for about 2 1/2 hours now and I'm only at 57 percent, not even using it or having email come to my phone. I'm coming to the conclusion that my battery is shot and I will have to get a new one. Last night I was using my phone and it was charging by my bed. I wake up this morning and the orange LED is on (indicating that it's charging) I'm like wtf it should be green because I've slept for 8 HOURS! I unhook the phone and the battery is at 0 percent and the phone just shuts off on me. I charge the phone and managed to get it to 25 percent before leaving for work. Right now I have my phone plugged into the wall and its taking forever to charge. Should I reflash my ROM and RADIO again. I've been holding off on buying an extended battery because I'm waiting for Seido 3000 Mah Battery.
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i know that some radios will eat up ur battery and cause rapid drainage, however i can't conclude that as no idea what rom/radio u r using. i doubt if flashing new rom is gona help. flash a different compatible radio and c if that helps; if not ur sol and probably need new battery.
peace,
sire

You could try putting the phone in flight mode to rule out a radio problem. Assuming no running programs in memory I would conclude a battery or charging circuit issue. I assume both mains charger and USB have been tried.
Ensure battery contacts are clean and the contacts on the phone.
You could try the wiggling the battery on and off the phone contacts method as used for the RLOD issue, just in case the charging circuit needs a kick start. The only note of caution here is that there are two cases (to my knowledge) of this trick possibly causing the rasdio to fail. So if I was trying this I would certainly have it in flight mode first - it is afterall a very crude method of forcing pulses of charge through the circuit.
Mike

I've been using Schaps 4.31 (only rom I have ever flashed, very satisfied with it)
Radio: 1.27.15.32
Problem just started 2 days ago. I tried plugging into another outlet thinking that maybe there was a problem with the outlet I was using and the same thing happens.

I feel like my kaiser is on life support, it hurts. I have to keep it plugged in to have it not die on me. I bought this from a friend 3 months ago for $250 but my Carrier AT&T and my EMPLOYER will not replace it because you can't have a transfer in warranty if you buy it from a friend. I think it's BS but w/e. If not I would have sent it in and got a refurbished one. Any other ideas

Hi gqstatus0685
I had an issue like this years ago. I had no friends who had the same phone so I took it into a store to test it.
You will need YOUR phone / battery AND charger and try it as follows:
1. THEIR charger with YOUR battery (if it works your charger may be broken but your battery is probably fine - if it doesnt work your battery or phone could be at fault)
2. THEIR charger with THEIR battery (this should work - if it doesnt your phone may be faulty)
3. YOUR charger with THEIR battery (again this should work, if not, your charger is probably at fault)
Let us know how you get on.
Cheers
Zippyioa

gqstatus0685 said:
I've been using Schaps 4.31 (only rom I have ever flashed, very satisfied with it)
Radio: 1.27.15.32
Problem just started 2 days ago. I tried plugging into another outlet thinking that maybe there was a problem with the outlet I was using and the same thing happens.
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First off, let me state that if you are having possible battery issues where you can't charge, I'd be VERY careful of trying to flash anything else. During the flashing process the phone will not charge. So if the battery goes dead during the minute or so it takes to do this, you will probably brick your device (or at best, not have a bootable phone that will not charge anymore since it can't boot).
This does sound like a hardware issue though. Either your charging circuit is shot, or your battery has died... Definetly try out zippyioa's advice to try to determine what isn't working.
BTW: Does it charge better or differently with USB cable vs the wall charger?
Also since you mention having BatteryStatus installed, turn on the indicator that shows the power. When its charging, what does it show for mA? When its not charging, what does this show?

All of a sudden my phone started to charge again. It charges very slow with wall power kind of like the way it's supposed to charge when connected to USB. Quoate me if I'm wrong but USB charge is slower than wall charge. I noticed that the Orange indicator will be lit noting that it's charging but then all of a sudden the indicator disappears and I have to unhook USB and re-plug it again. That's probably the reason why it's dead when I wake up in the morning. I don't touch the cable or move anything it just stops charging. I also noticed that when I get a missed call, SmS, MMS message it will stop charging unless I dismiss the messages. I haven't really confirmed this but I will. Thanks for the advice guys. You guys are the best.

I'm glad you are up and running again. These things do come and go occassionaly.
You are correct with your view on charging. A USB charge from my PC takes much longer than my wall charger.
Seems odd that your phone stops charging if you get an SMS.
It sounds like something is definitely wrong - a re-flash MAY help BUT as mfrazzz said above I would be very careful as a lack of power during a flash could cause MAJOR issues for you.
Have you managed to get the power back up to 100% yet?
If so, does it hold charge when you unplug it?
If not, what happens if you leave it on charge (I would put in flight mode as Mike suggested above to avoid call/SMS interuptions)
Cheers
Zippyioa

gqstatus0685 said:
All of a sudden my phone started to charge again. It charges very slow with wall power kind of like the way it's supposed to charge when connected to USB. Quoate me if I'm wrong but USB charge is slower than wall charge. I noticed that the Orange indicator will be lit noting that it's charging but then all of a sudden the indicator disappears and I have to unhook USB and re-plug it again. That's probably the reason why it's dead when I wake up in the morning. I don't touch the cable or move anything it just stops charging. I also noticed that when I get a missed call, SmS, MMS message it will stop charging unless I dismiss the messages. I haven't really confirmed this but I will. Thanks for the advice guys. You guys are the best.
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If the light ghoes out after charging awhile, then you have most likely damaged the USB port with clumsy hands while trying to reset. Take a look at the USB Port. If it is even slightly curved or lower on the right side even by only a mm. then I'm right. This can cause a bad connection & occasionally can be fixed by gently bending at back into shape. HTC uses two different USB ports on the Kaiser, this is easier to fix on the open ended type, but because it is weaker, it's also easier to break, so be careful.
By default the USB port pin block is arrow straight.

My usb port was f**** up, I bent it back into place and it charges now.
I installed battery meter and when not plugged in I'm displaying:
6% I guess that's CPU usage
29.8 degrees/84 degree Fahrenheit have no idea what that is
87mA It fluctuates the lowest I've seen it was at 60 mA/Highest being 437mA

I'm going to add that my Kaiser has the HTC home plugin and battery meter. I only have one push email acct for my GMAIL. I don't get alot of emails on there. Mostly ones I send myself like files and such. No programs running in the background.

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Ok my phone has been charging all night. I wake up this morning and the charging indicator is orange when it should be green. I unhook the phone and Boom phone turns off. My phone is completely dead. I've been charging my phone for a while now (4-5 hours) and my phone is stuck at 57% does not move up. I'm leaning toward a battery problem. I'm going to put my phone in flight mode to further confirm.

gqstatus0685 said:
UPDATE**
Ok my phone has been charging all night. I wake up this morning and the charging indicator is orange when it should be green. I unhook the phone and Boom phone turns off. My phone is completely dead. I've been charging my phone for a while now (4-5 hours) and my phone is stuck at 57% does not move up. I'm leaning toward a battery problem. I'm going to put my phone in flight mode to further confirm.
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That doesn't sound too good!
Have you tried the tests I suggested above (using store charger/battery)?
Zippyioa

I forgot to add and I'm sorry that about a month ago I had my wall charger in my pocket and it fell into the toilet. I still works maybe thats' what's causing the prob. It was working fine after I dried it off and let it sit.

LOL, I would bet a lot of money that is your problem, try a new AC adapter before you buy a new battery.

yeah I'll try to buy another one and see if that fixes my problem. I mean why would it happen now all of a sudden. By the way I just happened to walk by the toilet and it fell in. I had it in my hoody pocket. Don't keep things there they fall easily like my first Kaiser..RIP 2007-2007

gqstatus0685 said:
I forgot to add and I'm sorry that about a month ago I had my wall charger in my pocket and it fell into the toilet. I still works maybe thats' what's causing the prob. It was working fine after I dried it off and let it sit.
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Thats definitely not good! Even if it dried out fully the water could have partially damaged the internal circuits. It may have taken time for the charger to go completely.
As I have suggested several times, you need to try another charge/battery!
Do you have a car charger or a friend with the same phone?
Zippyioa

Yeah. I have a car charger I bought from Ebay. Was hesitant on trying since I heard they fry phones. Tomorrow morning I'll go to store and test out my battery and plug. Hopefully it works. Wish me luck

My Kaiser stop charging while running app (USB linked to computer or car charger use)

Hi !!!
My Kaiser (Schap's lite 4.31) randomly stop charging, whenever it wants, at home (USB to computer) or in car (as GPS use for example)
With my laptop, i use my Kaiser for "Internet Sharing" to get HSDPA, the orange led stays for a while, and without raison, it turns green and blinks, as stand by mode. So battery decreases very fast. The only way to solve is to stop "Internet Sharing", then ActiveSync re sync, and then led shows orange charging again. Then i can start "Internet Sharing" again, but for how long ? Problem comes again and again...
In car, same problem. In GPS use, with car charger (brand Motorola), it starts Orange charging, and randomly, orange led stops and i'm back with green blinking, running on his own battery (but linked to car charger !!!)
With AC Charger, no charge problem.
Probably my Kaiser has charge problems while running apps ?
Somebody can help me ?

Well I have noticed this same behavior with my Tilt with various
roms. (Stock, Dutty's and now Garmins) It seems to me that at
the time the Tilt stops charging, the device is pretty warm. It
happend when tethered for ICS or when used as GPS. I may be
wrong but I have come to the conclusion that it is designed to
stop charging when the device reaches a certain internal temp.
Just using those two particular applications (ICS w/HSPDA and
GPS) causes the device to heat up, Combined with charging I
think it may be too much and the device stops charging to cool
off so that there isn't a component failure due to the heat build
up. I also say this because after an idle period with ICS (say I
am reading a long article) and the device cools a little it will start
to charge again. Likewise in the car with GPS.

luminouche said:
Hi !!!
My Kaiser (Schap's lite 4.31) randomly stop charging, whenever it wants, at home (USB to computer) or in car (as GPS use for example)
With my laptop, i use my Kaiser for "Internet Sharing" to get HSDPA, the orange led stays for a while, and without raison, it turns green and blinks, as stand by mode. So battery decreases very fast. The only way to solve is to stop "Internet Sharing", then ActiveSync re sync, and then led shows orange charging again. Then i can start "Internet Sharing" again, but for how long ? Problem comes again and again...
In car, same problem. In GPS use, with car charger (brand Motorola), it starts Orange charging, and randomly, orange led stops and i'm back with green blinking, running on his own battery (but linked to car charger !!!)
With AC Charger, no charge problem.
Probably my Kaiser has charge problems while running apps ?
Somebody can help me ?
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This can help your problem to resolve,go to settings-system-power,make sure when device is turned on do not charge battery when connected to the pc,is unchecked.
regards

@ Darkhynde : You're probably right !!! Last time i saw this non-charging behaviour, it happened after long GPS use (started on its own battery, summer temperature, hot in car, and it stopped charging 5 minutes after switching on car charger adaptor), and long, long HSDPA (more than 5 hours on USB) use.
Temperature must be the answer, you're the king
@ korakesion : Obviously option is checked
Thanks guys !!!

Darkhynde said:
Well I have noticed this same behavior with my Tilt with various
roms. (Stock, Dutty's and now Garmins) It seems to me that at
the time the Tilt stops charging, the device is pretty warm. It
happend when tethered for ICS or when used as GPS. I may be
wrong but I have come to the conclusion that it is designed to
stop charging when the device reaches a certain internal temp.
Just using those two particular applications (ICS w/HSPDA and
GPS) causes the device to heat up, Combined with charging I
think it may be too much and the device stops charging to cool
off so that there isn't a component failure due to the heat build
up. I also say this because after an idle period with ICS (say I
am reading a long article) and the device cools a little it will start
to charge again. Likewise in the car with GPS.
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interesting thank you.

Darkhynde said:
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happend when tethered for ICS or when used as GPS. I may be
wrong but I have come to the conclusion that it is designed to
stop charging when the device reaches a certain internal temp...
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I've used my Tilt as a tethered USB modem during several disaster recovery tests for periods up to 14 hours and I've never had it stop charging.
But I can see the part about GPS because my phone gets hot as hell after 30 or so minutes with GPS running; still charges though...

100% Confirmed Temperatures is the key...
Not sure anyone is still reading this post... but I just want to let yo guys know that I have the same problem... (it stops charging when using internet sharing and it get really hot)
The only solution I have found is to put the Tilt in front of a fan... If you put the tilt in front of a fan... you can use internet sharing/GPS 24/7... done this a million times... and it works for days without a problem.
Hope this helps... take care everyone...

I've had my phone since October 2007 and have tethered with it pretty much everyday since dial up is the only other solution where I live and NEVER did the phone get hot or stop charging until yesterday. If while I am using ICS and I go into power settings and check don't charge while connected to PC and then immediately uncheck it it will charge for a few moments and then go back to flashing green. I put a new battery in and no difference. I hard reset the phone and tried ICS without loading anyhting on the phone still same thing. It charges any other way except when using ICS and I DO pay for tethering on mine.

Just an update to my situation. I plugged my phone into my other computer and used ICS and this time it charged until full (granted it was almost full already) So here I am on my laptop which it would not charge while using ICS and so far after about 10 minutes it is still charging. Only thing I did was poke around in the registry looking for some magic setting but I never changed anything. I don't know if leaving it on a wall charger all day and night did something or I just got lucky. Hopefully it will continue to work since i only have less than a month left on my 1yr warranty.

korakesion said:
This can help your problem to resolve,go to settings-system-power,make sure when device is turned on do not charge battery when connected to the pc,is unchecked.
regards
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Doesn't this affect battery-life? I was under the impression you should not charge until the battery is (nearly) empty?
I have a feeling my hermes battery got wasted because the hermes starts charging every time I connect it to my pc (which is every day during office hours)

It's a defect. HTC sucks and I'll never buy one of their phones again. How disrespectful of them! I bought the phone hoping to use it as a modem permanently and go home to find the device heats up within 1 hour of usage and stops USB charging! I can't remain online for more than 2 hours without leaving the air conditioner on. What about the 3D display driver? No drivers! Down with HTC!

Charging battery while using TomTom 6 in the car

Hello everybody,
i wonder if any of you encountered the problem of not charging the battery in the car while using TomTom 6. It happened to me many times and it's quite annoying because at a certain point the phone will go off and it will need to be charged while off otherwise it will not work.
Since it happened in different cars it does not depend by the charger but has to be a software problem either of WM or TomTom.
Any suggestion?
Thanks!
Panco

Buy a decent charger with at least 2A.

2A? 1A should be more than enough...
(I'm not sure you'd be able to find a 2A USB charger as the USB2.0 spec requires connectors to be rated at 1.5A tops so if there was such a beast I personally wouldn't touch it)
Mathew

Do a careful inspection of the USB connector on the phone and the car cradles/leads - my money is on a piece of cloth/fluff etc breaking the charger connection.

Today, I tried using CoPilot (with a live internet connection going for Traffic updates), with bluetooth switched on (so that I could connect with my Parrot kit in the car), and the phone on charge.
On the journey back home, CoPilot was running (and on the screen) whilst I was on a call via the Parrot. And yet, the battery was still getting charged properly! I was actually impressed that the charging would work automatically once the cable was inserted - my MDA Pro needed the display to be off before I could see the red charging light come on and for the phone to start charging.
FYI, the charger was a cigar_lighter_adapter-2-USB_cable type.
I've got an MDA Compact IV with the original ROM (but TouchFlo tweaks, etc).
So, I'd say either there's something wrong with your adapter, cable, or indeed TomTom is using a lot of juice!

panco said:
Hello everybody,
i wonder if any of you encountered the problem of not charging the battery in the car while using TomTom 6. It happened to me many times and it's quite annoying because at a certain point the phone will go off and it will need to be charged while off otherwise it will not work.
Since it happened in different cars it does not depend by the charger but has to be a software problem either of WM or TomTom.
Any suggestion?
Thanks!
Panco
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No, it does this with most GPS SW and the problem is heating preventing battery charging to avoid the battery to catch fire, especially with the the phone placed in the windscreen with the sun on it. At night the issue is no longer an issue. So when you have a break for coffee let the phone have a break too to cool down and recharge.

Or mount it infront of an air con vent

Nuri58 said:
No, it does this with most GPS SW and the problem is heating preventing battery charging to avoid the battery to catch fire, especially with the the phone placed in the windscreen with the sun on it. At night the issue is no longer an issue. So when you have a break for coffee let the phone have a break too to cool down and recharge.
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Thank for your post, i think you got the point with something (the heating of the battery+gps) preventing the battery to recharge; i'm convinced of this because the problem is not always present but it comes at certain conditions.
I'll try to let the diamond cool down at regular intervals and not to position too exposed. I also noticed that it's advisable to first connect the phone to the charger then after some minutes run the tomtom otherwise the problem is likely to happen.
Thanks to all.
Panco

There are many tool available to show you the internal temperature of the device - the battery monitor 'Batti' is one such tool (and it's free).
Give something like that a try then you'll be able to see if your problems bear any correlation with temperature.
Mathew

Im experiencing the same with Garmin, yes, it was hot...first I thought the cigarette-to-usb-adapter was not strong enough....
Will try to keep it cool

You need a USB car charger with at least 1A, as said in previous post, but with any USB cable the current limiting will be lways be 500mA.
Only the original Diamond cable will allow you to charge with currents over 500mA. To measure the charge current you can use several programs, like my TodayWarrior (as it is a plugin you will need to disable temporarilt Touch Flo or use Second Today).

It's not heating of battery, but just that when Using tomtom, with backlight, Full GPS usage, phone on and that VGA screen just pulls more than your charger can bring
Got the same issue, and yes, as said before, get a heavier charger.

I have the same problem using IGO8.
First point, using Full GPS in car will consumme a lot of energy.
So it's better to use a 2A/5V charger (5V is the important thing ... And for your information, HTC is selling 2A car charger for their last phones ...)
Second point, the GPS chip is badly placed in the phone, behind the battery.
So yes, when the GPS is used for a long time, it makes the battery hot and the phone stops the battery charging ...
The point is to use a good car craddle, one that lets the phone "breath" (one that doesn't cover to much the rear of the phone) ...

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You need a USB car charger with at least 1A, as said in previous post, but with any USB cable the current limiting will be lways be 500mA.
Only the original Diamond cable will allow you to charge with currents over 500mA. To measure the charge current you can use several programs, like my TodayWarrior (as it is a plugin you will need to disable temporarilt Touch Flo or use Second Today).
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The input sideon car chargers inclusive of HTC is 500 mA at 12 V and the output side 1A at 5V, which is what the phone requires and all car chargers I have do. But the important thing about ion-lit batteries is that they require very controlled charging conditions (contrary to the older Metal or Cadnium). E.g. If the battery is completely flat (2 V or below) it is extremely hard to recharge and will require several hours in the charger while building up the voltage to about 3.2V, only then normal charge will start. Sometimes the stand-by consumption of a phone makes it imposible to recharge it while in the phone, and requires an external recharger. This may explain the observatiobn that it is better to wait a couple of minutes before starting TT after connecting to the recharger to ensure correct initial charging.
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It's not heating of battery, but just that when Using tomtom, with backlight, Full GPS usage, phone on and that VGA screen just pulls more than your charger can bring
Got the same issue, and yes, as said before, get a heavier charger.
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This is the way to get a battery to explode, but fortunately the phone will not allow charging to take place and adding more amps will possibly increase heating and just worsen the situation. But correct as more power the device draws as hotter it gets and as sooner charging stops.
As Nani says there is an element of disign problem (cannot be a surprice to HTC that people actually will like to use the Navigation also on long drives), so if placed so it can cool will defenetly help. So will dimming the display to the minimum.

Charging time.. ?

I had problems with my phone, discharing in under five hours, and useing 5-6 hours to recharge..
When I got to work today, I exchanged the phone with a new one.. It was at 25%-... Small use, and it was down to 14%....
Now Its been 7 hours, and its back to 69%.. and still charging...
Anyone else having this problem?

I experience sort of the same thing...
Charging the phone takes forever (4-5 hours) and Im down to 70-65% charge when I get to work after a full nights charge (from 100%). On the way to work I listen to Spotify (no streaming) for 30 min, read a couple of emails... but nothing else...(wifi off but push mail on)
My conclusion was that I used a USB port for charging and my USB port may not delivering a lot of power (ie long charge time, but this was not a issue with other phones on the same USB ports).
I have also read that the battery charge "builds up" after a few recharges, but I have not experienced any difference the last week.
I will try to use the charger tonight (not USB)

The non-USB charger will be faster since it delivers 1 A. If I remember correctly, a normal USB-port only delivers 100 mA - so it should be 10 times faster

With the normal charger from LG.
0 til 100% goes in 2/2.5hours.

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Now Its been 7 hours, and its back to 69%.. and still charging...
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That must be USB charging.
From a wall socket I get 10% / 10 mins - 100% charge in ~100 mins.

USB is restricted to 100mA if the device doesn't "connect" to the USB port (identifies itself blabla)
If it does, standard USB is rated at 500mA for each port.
I recommend using the wallcharger, as those usually deliver more juice.

Its not USB charge.. Connected to the "socket" in the wall...
I just noticed on the phone that battery condition is "overheated"....
This is the second phone I have with the same problem.....
oh.. and btw;
ive was done at work at 4pm, battery at 69%..
Now its almost 7pm, and its down to 25 %

Non USB charging from 4% till 100% 2 hours

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Its not USB charge.. Connected to the "socket" in the wall...
I just noticed on the phone that battery condition is "overheated"....
This is the second phone I have with the same problem.....
oh.. and btw;
ive was done at work at 4pm, battery at 69%..
Now its almost 7pm, and its down to 25 %
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That's probably bad... unless the fuses in your house (charge at home) are bad?
Way, too slow and it should not get hot.

I put the phone in "Airplane" mode, and now it charge fast, and keeps the power/current(?)...
Since WiFi is allways disabled, it most be the phone connection that draws all the power out of it....

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I put the phone in "Airplane" mode, and now it charge fast, and keeps the power/current(?)...
Since WiFi is allways disabled, it most be the phone connection that draws all the power out of it....
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Plus you get free airpoints!

Experiencing some issues with charging too.
Under heavy load (for instance 3D games), even if my phone is charging with the wallcharger, my battery slowly discharge and my phone eventually shuts off automatically
I also noticed that my phone can get really hot. I had this issue with MCR fr8 and fr12 with and without calibration. No overclocking or fancy kernels. I'm now considering sending my 2x back to LG with an insult letter.
Anyone experiencing this issue as well? Any clue how to fix that (wallcharger > 1A for instance?)

Supposedly the 2X has an issue with Radio usage. Using only 2G networks will improve it alot.
We are hoping for a fix in the Gingerbread ROM...
Also do you have the newest baseband installed when using FR12?

I already experienced this with fr8 and the old RIL so I don't think it's a baseband/RIL mismatch problem. I will see if fr12 and new radio improve things though.
Btw, I can see that phone/data layer takes up as much battery as wifi. Is that a normal ratio on an android phone? Can't remember battery usage on my previous phones.