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I wanna throw my TyTn II against the wall.

This is driving me up the wall...
I'm going nuts.
I can't figure out how to change my text message tone...
some how I have a few full songs in option box...
But I can't figure out how to use that isn't in there...
I downloaded a tone I want to use.
And it's just taking up room on my phone!
So will someone please help me out with this problem??

Renegade503 said:
This is driving me up the wall...
I'm going nuts.
I can't figure out how to change my text message tone...
some how I have a few full songs in option box...
But I can't figure out how to use that isn't in there...
I downloaded a tone I want to use.
And it's just taking up room on my phone!
So will someone please help me out with this problem??
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try saving it as .wav on your \windows dir

Umm...look above....lol... gues i was too wordy....
Thought I'd take a chance with this one. First what format is the media type you are working with. I have found under sounds and notifications -- >Start >Settings > Sounds and Notifications is where you have the granularity to make some choices. First you have to make sure a .wav format of the file exists in the correct Windows folder of your mobile OS to be able to use the file (*hint locate the names of the default sounds listed in the S&N dropdown list*). Took me about a week to realize that i was bound by M$ file types (.wav). If you need to convert a file from one format to another there are an assundry of apps to look at, but i recommend a look at audacity (only for quick learning curve and open source app).
Hope this provides some insight. As I am using a rom i found on this forum i don't remember the default path for a Kaiser or AT&T tilt anymore. Locating the file browser via activesync should provide more help in locating where the file should reside.
Don't toss the phone or if you want to sling it my way, wy wife could use the device (best I have had to date IMHO).
Cheers and good luck.

For the record, WAV and MIDI files will only work if they are in the \windows\ directory in the root of your device. This confused me when I first got my Tilt because my Wizard would see them in \My Documents\ on my SD card.

Not sure about wavs or midis, but it will use MP3s off of the storage card.
I'm using L26 v5 ROM and the MP3s in the Mp3 directory on my SD card root all show up under selectable ring tones.

Yeah as ringtones. But not text message tones, correct?

@Renegade503 we welcome your eagerness to learn about your device. But your flooding our board with n00bish questions, and repeatedly posting about stuff you can find in the manual sooo
RTFM ...
Just in case you dont understand what that means, and so you dont make another post asking what it means, i will just tell you..
Read The F**king Manual
Please Please Please do some reading on this site and on others, you might want to start with howardforums.com so that you may get a better grip on just what kind of phone you have. You can also read our wiki that has a wealth of information. Most people on here is not going to spoon feed you the answers.

i'm not a mod but maybe combine his threads into one?

Placing files for ringtones, alerts, alarms etc ?

I might have asked this before, but I'm not getting answers anywhere. I really want to be able to have the Tilt access files directly from my micro SD card in order to use them as ringtones, alarms etc.. But every time I try and use a file for a ringtone, the Tilt automatically copies said file to the "My Documents" folder on the main memory. After a while, this is going to cause the memory to be depleted.
Secondly, even if I wanted to use files from the Tilt's main memory for rings and such, it seems there are redundant directories that can be used. But I'm not quite sure of exactly what kind of files should go where. In the Windows folder, there's a "Rings" sub directory. I've put my ringtones in there, and that works fine. They will also work from the "My documents" folder, as stated earlier. However, If I want to access files for use with MMS or text files or e mail alerts or alarms, I'm not sure of where to put them. I'm guessing that if I toss most of them into the main Windows directory, that will solve the bulk of it, but I don't think it works for alarms...
Can anyone help with these things ?

I believe alerts and alarms need to be a .wav file. While ringtones are able to be .mp3's. This is from my own testing a while ago..I could be wrong >.<

you can use .mid, .aac, .wav or .mp3 for ringtones. for ringtones, the files can even be placed on the memory card.

Alerts (such as those for text messages) have to be WAV files and they must be placed directly in the \Windows folder (no subfolder). If you cannot see the Windows folder on the root of your device, you will need to change your Windows Explorer setting to not hide System files.
Ringtones are stored either in the \Windows\Rings folder or the My Ringtones folder in My Documents.
You can find instructions on these forums on how to move My Documents to your Storage Card, however, which lets you store as many ringtones as you like in that subfolder.

Interesting. Thanks guys. So from what I've gathered from here and other forums, alerts and messages etc, definitely have to be .wav files. That stinks, but at least I know now, thanks. Secondly, I guess it would be of help to find that program which would store the my documents folder on the SD card.
Would anybody by chance know what that program/app is ?
One more thing. Is there anyway possible to get rid of the pre-installed ringtones and alerts etc from the Windows folder and such ? I'd love to free up that space and replace them with stuff that I make or find.
Thanks !
Doug

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Interesting. Thanks guys. So from what I've gathered from here and other forums, alerts and messages etc, definitely have to be .wav files. That stinks, but at least I know now, thanks. Secondly, I guess it would be of help to find that program which would store the my documents folder on the SD card.
Would anybody by chance know what that program/app is ?
One more thing. Is there anyway possible to get rid of the pre-installed ringtones and alerts etc from the Windows folder and such ? I'd love to free up that space and replace them with stuff that I make or find.
Thanks !
Doug
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Alerts can be MIDI files also.

dougrb said:
Interesting. Thanks guys. So from what I've gathered from here and other forums, alerts and messages etc, definitely have to be .wav files. That stinks, but at least I know now, thanks. Secondly, I guess it would be of help to find that program which would store the my documents folder on the SD card.
Would anybody by chance know what that program/app is ?
Doug
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i just copied over the My Ringtones folder from My Docs to the storage card and popped in ringtones in there. seems to work fine and is discoverable.

Use Mp3 as SMS Tones

Right i have searched and searched and cannot get the answer i am looking for. I have the mp3 i want as an SMS tone in \storage\my docs, \my device\windows, plus all the other places people suggest and still it will not allow me to select the tone for SMS. Some one please help its driving me mad!

Easiest way if you are stuggling is to open the mp3 trimmer application, browse for the file where the mp3 is, select the mp3, then edit it to your liking. The phone will then ask you if you want it set as default ringtone!!
Hope this helps
Matt

Have you tried putting the files in /Application Data/Sounds/ ? Works for me..

I have never been able to use an MP3 file as an SMS, Mail, MMS, Alarm etc tone. Using it for a ringtone however works fine.
It seems that it only want WAV files if you want it for an SMS, Mail etc tone. So convert the file to WAV using you PC / MAC and drop it in /Windows. Then you can select it.

try putting it on the root of phone memory.
mine never works on internal storage but on phone
memory is fine.

Yep had it in route and still wont work. tried in app data\sounds still no joy. Ill try the convert to a wav file see if i get anywhere with that

nope still no joy with the WAV file

Try not only to save it as .wav but as a wavefile in PCM format
I spend some time back on the earlier QTEK's to get this part working, best shot is that it's still like this.
Kindly

you should copy them to your windows folder on the phone
thats where te other sms tones are stored,worked for me even with mp3 files

davekollie said:
you should copy them to your windows folder on the phone
thats where te other sms tones are stored,worked for me even with mp3 files
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lol thanks - as i said above it doesnt work

I've got my worms sms notification located in File explorer>My device>Internal storage.
Then go to sounds/notifications and it should appear in the available sounds list.
Works fine... however I did try it with another mp3 file in exactly the same way and although it appears in the list it won't actually play the sound.
Matt

Available patch for mp3 SMS tones was:
>My device>Internal storage
>My device>Windows.
GL.

cidcis said:
Available patch for mp3 SMS tones was:
>My device>Internal storage
>My device>Windows.
GL.
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Tried still will not work

Can't change Ringtone....

I'm running HTC Home on my tilt...Today I changed my default ringtone from a mp3 file to another mp3, but it didn't change.... I can play the files, so I know the files are good, but it will not change in HTC Home or under the system>sounds & notifications....
Anyone know what I need to do?

Firstly, make sure that your mp3 files are associated with wmplayer otherwise you cannot play mp3's as ringtones, secondly make sure that your mp3's for ringtones are placed in the device/rings folder. That should sort it out.

I moved the file to the rings folder, but it still changes back after I close the sounds window. The ringtone that it is currently using is a mp3 file in the My documents folder. How do I check to verify the program mp3s are associated with?

amac64 said:
I moved the file to the rings folder, but it still changes back after I close the sounds window. The ringtone that it is currently using is a mp3 file in the My documents folder. How do I check to verify the program mp3s are associated with?
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Can you go into the file explorer i nthe programs folder, then browse to the mp3 you want to use as a ring tone, hold the stylus down on the file and select "set as Ringtone" from the drop down list.
What does that do?

amac64 said:
I moved the file to the rings folder, but it still changes back after I close the sounds window. The ringtone that it is currently using is a mp3 file in the My documents folder. How do I check to verify the program mp3s are associated with?
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That's easy. What file explorer app do you use? If you use Total Commander (Freeware), then you can associate all mp3's with WMPlayer The WMPlayer icon should show on those files, then you know what app it's associated with. You go File>Properties, select the Associate tab and then select WMPlayer from the Device\Windows directory.
In Resco Explorer, you Tap and Hold file for a pop-up menu and then Open>Open with, and then select WMPLayer.

mskip... It's says "the file has been set as your current ring tone."... but it doesn't do it.
MACkjam.... I use just the file explorer from WM 6.1... the ringtone it's set on is a mp3 file so I would assume it has the proper assoc..
I deleted the mp3 file that was set as the ringtone... it moved down the list to the next mp3 file and now I can't change it......
I have tried changing the ringtone via:
1. File Explorer
2. HTC Home tab
3. System>sounds
In system>sounds, every time I try to change it, it looks like it's changed and then I can go back to see, it's just like before.
In HTC Home, it allows me to select another, but it never changes......

Is there a place in the registry I can make the change?

amac64 said:
Is there a place in the registry I can make the change?
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Does it allow you to set non mp3 RingTones? eg. the ones that came on the rom.

no, it is currently set as Ring-WindowsMobile.....I can't change it to anything else.... HTC Home still has the ringtone as mrbeannokia, but the system settings has the Ring-WindowsMobile....
It seems that I can change other sounds, like email and MMS sent...
Could this be a problem with HTC Home?

amac64 said:
no, it is currently set as Ring-WindowsMobile.....I can't change it to anything else.... HTC Home still has the ringtone as mrbeannokia, but the system settings has the Ring-WindowsMobile....
It seems that I can change other sounds, like email and MMS sent...
Could this be a problem with HTC Home?
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I have had the similar problem...haven't found the solution to this day.....but there's a workaround delete or move the ringtone which you're using now(ring-windowsmobile - [if it's in rom then you might have a problem deleting it...in that case backup your files...hardreset your phone and check if you can change ringtone on clean rom]) and then you should be able to assign a new ringtone. I've notice that the problem doesn't occur on "clean" roms so most likely some application is screwing up your "Feng shui"

Thanks Arturo... The ringtone is on the ROM, so I can't delete it.....I was hoping I could avoid a hard reset.....

amac64 said:
Thanks Arturo... The ringtone is on the ROM, so I can't delete it.....I was hoping I could avoid a hard reset.....
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Well in that case you could try to search for a program which allows deleting or renaming files in rom.(I'm not sure if such a program exists at all but it's worth trying if you don't want to hardreset your phone)

amac64 said:
Is there a place in the registry I can make the change?
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Yes; here: HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtone0 - edit sound
ie:
Code:
*vibrate*
is equal to vibrate.
Code:
\My Documents\My Ringtones\*put song/ringtone file name here*
" is the default file location.

Thank you zeezee...but I had hard reset my phone before I read you message....
after the hard reset, I installed all the programs I had before and tried changing my ringtones after each...every thing worked fine, until...
This morning, I could change the ringtone, but it would change back after a phone call, so I looked at everything that could set my ringtone and decided that Phone Alarm was the problem... I removed it and now everything works correctly....
I appreciate all the help y'all gave me....
Andy

hi im having the same problem wheneber i change the ringtone in the file explorer it says it has been set as my ringtone but it never changes. i did the registry editing and same thing did not change at all i dont know what else to do i copied the ringtone in both folders windows/rings and My Documents/My Ringtones and i got nothing i cant even see the mp3 files

kratos2027 said:
hi im having the same problem wheneber i change the ringtone in the file explorer it says it has been set as my ringtone but it never changes. i did the registry editing and same thing did not change at all i dont know what else to do i copied the ringtone in both folders windows/rings and My Documents/My Ringtones and i got nothing i cant even see the mp3 files
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Well if you cant even see them...you might have a problem

zeezee said:
Well if you cant even see them...you might have a problem
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lol yeah that is a bugger
What Rom are you using? Is it a stock rom or a cooked one? If it really bothers you that much then it might be worth just flashing a new Rom rather than spending your time trying to figure it out.

go in the registry and change the HKEY_Current User> ControlPanel > Sounds and deleted the key of FileSizeLimit.

MACkjam said:
Firstly, make sure that your mp3 files are associated with wmplayer otherwise you cannot play mp3's as ringtones, secondly make sure that your mp3's for ringtones are placed in the device/rings folder. That should sort it out.
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I am having a problem even getting WM Player to update the Library with the songs from the storage card. It only shows my device as an option and not the storage card. I have taken out and re-inserted the memory card, but still nothing.

Same problem here, but different device.

tilt textmessage ringtone

i can not figure out how to get a mp3 ringtone that i downloaded to work when i get a text. the tone shows up in the new text thing to select which tone u want but it doesnt ring when i get a text? my ringotne from a incoming call works. but not the text
thanks chris

I got the same problem. anyone can help?

are you sure the text tone does not work at all? I am running WM6.1 stock on AT&T Tilt which I purchased a couple of days ago. Today, I did not notice when I received the text. I thought I was probably away from the phone. But when I read your post, I doubt that the same thing is happening here as well?
hmm.. experts?

maybe not an expert, but afaik You cannot use mp3 as a message tone. it's got to be .wav
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...and I believe You need to drop it in windows folder

You can use a mp3...you just have to copy it to the windows folder.

do u put it in windows folder in sync or on the phone?

i use resco file explorer to transfer it. You can use the default file explorer. Just do it on your phone. I keep them saved on my card because I flash so often that i just copy them from my card to the windows folder.

mp3's will work as message alert tones. Just make sure you drop it in the windows root directory.
If your particular mp3 file doesn't work try another one.
Also, check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393901

You can check this app too.

[email protected] said:
mp3's will work as message alert tones. Just make sure you drop it in the windows root directory.
If your particular mp3 file doesn't work try another one.
Also, check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393901
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Ive gotten mp3s to work for txt messages but the entire clip plays regardless if i pick up the phone and open/answer the text or not. Is there any fix for this?

jay487 said:
Ive gotten mp3s to work for txt messages but the entire clip plays regardless if i pick up the phone and open/answer the text or not. Is there any fix for this?
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Easiest way is to use MP3Trimmer.

"Assigning Ringtones" problem for TILT phone...
I'm having the same trouble with assigning ringtones/mp3 files as text alerts, alarm clock tones. I installed the .cab file (ringtone manager) mentioned earlier in the thread, and I have all ringtone files in my WINDOWS folder. Howerver, when I use the installed "Ringtone Manager" program and explore my files...my mp3 files do not show up w/in the "Ringtone Manager" program. Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to all of this...please dumb it down for me.

AKLew said:
I'm having the same trouble with assigning ringtones/mp3 files as text alerts, alarm clock tones. I installed the .cab file (ringtone manager) mentioned earlier in the thread, and I have all ringtone files in my WINDOWS folder. Howerver, when I use the installed "Ringtone Manager" program and explore my files...my mp3 files do not show up w/in the "Ringtone Manager" program. Any suggestions? I'm relatively new to all of this...please dumb it down for me.
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I don't know from where you got the ringtone manager app. I don't see it anywhere in this thread. Maybe that application doesn't support mp3 files as text msg alerts or something.
I always place my mp3 files in the first screen after you've clicked 'Explore' in ActiveSync. I believe it's called "Mobile Device Center". Afterwards, it should allow you to select the file for texts. Try that. It should work.

I put all tones that i plan on using in the root of my storage card... no problems.