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What a truly excellent headset, this is the first headset I've ever had that just works.
On the Bluetooth side of things it claims to have hundred metre Bluetooth, which I always thought would only work if the device it is connected to is also hundred metre capable, which may or may not be the case as I have not been able to get a hundred meters away yet. What I will say is that unlike any other headset I've ever had, I can for the first time freely wander around my flat without any audio dropouts or interruption both on phone calls and whilst listening to music no matter how far away from my phone I get. The fact that it has a standard headphones connector is a brilliant idea and allows me to use my Sennheiser's
Another first is the FM radio, that actually does work using the headphones cable as the aerial. I have had several devices in the past that have attempted to do this, and none have ever worked properly as they tend to only find the strongest signals (the worst offender being the Nokia HS-12). As an added bonus the radio is also RDS.
It has a simple but intuitive menu system, the sound quality is excellent but thats probably more to do with my headphones than the actual device.
The downside is that it is a little bit big but this just makes it a comfortable size to use.
It is hard to put into words how well it just works, my previous headset a Sony Ericsson HBH970, had some funny quirks. For example, when in stereo mode if you have audible taps enabled it would be mute for the first four screen taps, and then on the fifth screen tap It would play all the taps together as though it had been buffering the audio, whereas this plays them as they happen. I think ultimately, quirks like this come down to the fact that the majority of headsets that we purchase are not designed to be used with PDA phones, but rather specific phones from the same manufacturer as the headset, this device has been designed from the ground up work with everything. Or so, it says. and I for one believe it.
does it have vibrate option?
nope, my other option was the itech clip D-radio (not to be confused with the itech clip radio), which does vibrate, and also has the abilitiy to let you look though your last calls list and dial from that ! but availability is an issue because it is new, so unless you want it from a dodgy hong kong ebayer with only 95% feedback and a history of selling counterfeit items. you will have to wait !
PS it has no RDS and only 10M bluetooth but is otherwise very similarly featured
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nope, my other option was the itech clip D-radio (not to be confused with the itech clip radio), which does vibrate, and also has the abilitiy to let you look though your last calls list and dial from that !
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Are you sure the D-radio vibrates? The sites I see says it has "3 buzzer alert modes for incoming calls" which I thought probably meant it has three different ringtones built in for different caller IDs.
hmmm you have got me thinking now, but im fairly sure I read that it vibrated, but maybe your right.
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hmmm you have got me thinking now, but im fairly sure I read that it vibrated, but maybe your right.
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I hope you are right. I really need a pendant style A2DP headset that vibrates.
I thought it's not being sold any more? I was looking to use it with the bluetooth vibrating bracelet but couldn't find it on the moto website.
Ok, I think this is a new subject:
I am getting ready to buy/lease a new car in the next couple of months. Would like everyone's opinion/advice.
1. Which cars have bluetooth built-in that work with Kaiser over the speakers for both music and for phone?
2. Which cars work with bluetooth for voice-dialing (i.e. have some sort of microphone built-in)?
3. Which cars have the best PLACEMENT options for the Kaiser for GPS navigation (i.e. best line of sight for where the Kaiser would sit to be viewable)?
ONLY REQUIREMENTS: Cars have to be less that $50,000 (ouch!) and options to enable #1, 2, or 3 CANNOT require physically changing anything in the car (it may be leased, instead of bought).
Your wisdom is GREATLY anticipated.
You are planning on making a $50,000 purchasing decision based on a piece of equipment worth about $500?
Not that you don't have some valid questions... but realize how ludicrous the concept is.
There are plenty of cars out there (well below $50K) that have integrated bluetooth and GPS (and other voice activated things like music) so that using your phone (which is a poor option in comparison to dedicated solutions) should not even be necessary.
Buy a car based on the cars functionality...not whether you can plug in an easily expendable device!
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Ok, I think this is a new subject:
I am getting ready to buy/lease a new car in the next couple of months. Would like everyone's opinion/advice.
1. Which cars have bluetooth built-in that work with Kaiser over the speakers for both music and for phone?
2. Which cars work with bluetooth for voice-dialing (i.e. have some sort of microphone built-in)?
3. Which cars have the best PLACEMENT options for the Kaiser for GPS navigation (i.e. best line of sight for where the Kaiser would sit to be viewable)?
ONLY REQUIREMENTS: Cars have to be less that $50,000 (ouch!) and options to enable #1, 2, or 3 CANNOT require physically changing anything in the car (it may be leased, instead of bought).
Your wisdom is GREATLY anticipated.
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Lincoln MKS? Great car & I *believe* the Sync/ Navigation does what you ask.
bengalih said:
You are planning on making a $50,000 purchasing decision based on a piece of equipment worth about $500?
Not that you don't have some valid questions... but realize how ludicrous the concept is.
There are plenty of cars out there (well below $50K) that have integrated bluetooth and GPS (and other voice activated things like music) so that using your phone (which is a poor option in comparison to dedicated solutions) should not even be necessary.
Buy a car based on the cars functionality...not whether you can plug in an easily expendable device!
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^^^ What he said +1
freddiemac1 said:
Ok, I think this is a new subject:
I am getting ready to buy/lease a new car in the next couple of months. Would like everyone's opinion/advice.
1. Which cars have bluetooth built-in that work with Kaiser over the speakers for both music and for phone?
2. Which cars work with bluetooth for voice-dialing (i.e. have some sort of microphone built-in)?
3. Which cars have the best PLACEMENT options for the Kaiser for GPS navigation (i.e. best line of sight for where the Kaiser would sit to be viewable)?
ONLY REQUIREMENTS: Cars have to be less that $50,000 (ouch!) and options to enable #1, 2, or 3 CANNOT require physically changing anything in the car (it may be leased, instead of bought).
Your wisdom is GREATLY anticipated.
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Hmm... just wanted to point out a few things to consider:
1. The life-cycle of your vehicle should extend well beyond your phone.
2. For a $50,000 vehicle, it will hopefully have a GPS navigation built-in.
In any case, if the BT compatibility is that high on your priority list... test it out when you test drive the vehicle. I don't think the dealership will mind, and if they do - pull off the side of the road during your test drive and configure. The Internet is a wealth of information for manuals and procedures to configure without the help of the dealership.
Good luck with your choice, and let us know your selection.
Thanks, guys....for the reality check
I am NOT basing my decision on this question...but it is a factor as to which cars are worth looking at that HAVE these features. I chose $50K as an arbitrary number because I can't even think of anything more expensive that will do these things.
My real question is which cars out there play well and integrate well with our device (or future devices)?
Many factors (for me) go into a purchase/lease decision:
-safety ratings
-fuel economy
-comfort
-cost
-style
and one of them has to do with bluetooth integration...
For example, I know that the Toyota Prius has bluetooth integration. How is it? Are there others that do? What are your experiences with it?
So...while I really and honestly appreciate the "get real" advice - which is sound - if someone(s) could comment on the specific questions, it would help as I begin my search.
I have a ford edge with nav and sync. Phone syncs quickly and works well. I can push music over the bluetooth through it, it downloads my phonebook so I can hands free voice dial. The only thing the phone doesn't support in sync is reading text messages over it. Some issues I have run into since I upgraded to 6.1 though is after I pair it, then get out, it likes to set my ringer to silent, but not all the time. I Don't use phone for nav, I have found the screen too small to see clearly when driving and it eats the battery. I hope this helps.
Hello everyone
I recently, (finally) ordered a headphone/usb splitter thingy so i can play my tunes off the tilt in my car. Either thru an fm transmitter or a headphone/tape converter i put in the tape deck in my car. First off, im totallly impressed how great the sound is thru the stereo, a combo of car stereo settings/ and the audio booster/equalizer make even slayer sound good at the proverbial (11).
My question is this, im not sure if the att sites around here are jacked way up (power-wise) or what. But that annoying beeping, fluttering, digital sound you get thru your house speakers if you set your phone to close (or your tv or anything else w/a speaker for that matter)... its happening in the car also.
I can understand when im using the youtube player, the thing is streaming.
But even just playing mp3's or watching a movie thats on the SD card, i still get it from certain towers in certain towns. We have hellacious service here in New England, with alot of the towers on major routes not even doing handoffs correctly, resulting in missed calls etc. So i have a reason to wonder if its the service im getting i suppose.
Being the (non) brainiac that i am, i took a shield from a 25 pair cable i was punching down at work the other day, and put a large piece of it over my headphone wire/connector. Would this do anything? Is there such a device you could buy? (some sort of RF/emf shield?) It seems to work if the phone itself is the problem (youtube)... however coming thru by a certain cell tower again the other morning, that thing was chirping and burping like 2 dollar gutter whore.
Any suggestions or comments on this are appreciated, sorry for the rambling.
I live in North Mississippi near Memphis and have experienced the same issue. Sorry that I am no help towards a solution. Just thought I would let you know you are not alone.
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Being the (non) brainiac that i am, i took a shield from a 25 pair cable i was punching down at work the other day, and put a large piece of it over my headphone wire/connector. Would this do anything?
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Nope, the RF emitted by the phone is acting direclty onto the low level circuitry inside the car radio.
Even if you're not streaming anything, when the phone switches to another cell toper it notifies it that it has done so, and thus will communicate for a moment. How often it will do so, whether it will be on every tower or only after defined amounts of time, or even every group of X towers is defined by the operator. If you say coverage is know to be bad they might have just set it to notify on each tower and the phone is often switching.
Sometimes placing your phone on an antistatic bag, like Hard Drives come in helps. At least it does with computer speakers.
The noise is referrd to as RFI (Radio Frequency Interence) and EMI (Electro
Magnetic Interference). Both of these are what is affecting your system.
As your phone gets POLLED (Where are you message) by the cell phone tower, it responds with a "Here I AM" message. Its this initial communication
(handshake) that that is causing the interference.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
From another website:
"a cellphone tower can only support a limited number of simultaneously
connected cellphones. It therefore needs to know exactly when a cellphone
leaves its range, or disconnects from the network altogether, so it can free
up its connection slot for use by another cellphone. Normally a phone
communicates a disconnect to the tower whenever possible (for example if
it's getting out of reach and connects to another tower, it then disconnects
from the first and the connection gets transferred gracefully from the old
tower to the new one, even in the middle of a conversation). However, if you
just yank out the batteries, the phone gets utterly destroyed, you suddenly
enter a cage of faraday or even an underground tunnel, ... the phone will
have no time to notify the tower, so the tower needs to check up on
supposedly connected phones from time to time to check that none of them are
MIA. It's basically similar to an ICMP ping on the Internet. And that's what
you hear over your speakers. Similar thing happens right before a call or
SMS comes in, or when you dial out: there's two-way communication, and the
RF interference the cellphone puts out is picked up by your audio
equipment."
Either move your phone, or turn it 90 degrees to the right or left. It has to do with the phone switching over to Edge (or if it's always on Edge, you're gonna get it regardless) and the speakers are picking up the radio traffic as interference. It shouldn't happen when the phone is on 3G/HSDPA. Just repositioning the antenna, i.e. the phone, has always worked for me. You could also look up distortion reducing tricks, there was something on Makezine.com about putting magnets on the speaker wires to get it to stop, but I couldn't find the entry right now.
Cool beans, thanks for all the info. I understand about handshakes and all that and figured that was exactly what was happening. Doesnt seem to matter 3g/H/E certain towers do it no matter what im doing. As i noted the towers around here have been having major issues w/ handoffs so who knows. BTW not only does your cellphone poll constantly, but usually your phone call is happening on at least 2 towers at a time. So once tower A gets more signal then tower B it switches over to A (which already has your call processing at the same time) So yea its gonna happen no matter what i do. Truthfully its not that big of an issue, but i just came up w/ the greatest cheapo mount, and of course where i have the dam thing is directly over the stereo. lolz
Thanks again!
Hey guys,
I'm about to go on a huge road trip (San Diego CA to Washington DC) and my phone will be mounted in the window of my car providing me with directions via TomTom. Now I was wondering, does anybody know if it is possible to stream directly to the web? I would like to add a little "live webcam" section to my blog while I'm driving so people can see live what I'm seeing on the road. If anybody knows how to do this, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
You can stream live using http://qik.com/.
It (usually) works well for me.
The vid can be embedded onto your blog too.
doesnt work for me...gives me a spinning wheel and just sits there...
I know what you mean - it takes a while to buffer up.
It works better as almost-live streaming; if you stop filming, it quickly catches up and the vid is viewable.
This is ok if you're taking lots of short films of a couple of minutes each but it might not be too practical for your purposes - you don't want to be messing around with the phone every five minutes while you're driving!
Ah well, perhaps someone will come up with a better idea - I'd be interested too.
lol your phone is going to melt with tom tom and the webcam streaming.
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
The meta data issue is a common problem around Android phones I found out so far. I use N7player and on my car radio display it says Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk, but I'm playing I will be heard from Hatebreed. This happens on different phones with stock player installed.
The Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk is loaded in the stock music player, so the problem seems to be, that you have to find a workaround to get player X your standard player and disable everything else. Since I only use N7, I disabled every other player and it seems to work, but its a lazy workaround. Someone should find a fix for this. Maybe I should just use the stock filemanager and try to start a mp3 and than set N7 to default. Maybe this works.
For the BT cutting outs, I didn't recognize those cutouts. Don't ask me what is wrong at your side, I use a Pioneer DEH-X8500BT car radio and my HTC One is in my pocket. Do you have a bluetooth bridge like Belkin or Logitech BT Audio adapter or wireless speakers like Boombox or such thing so check if this happens with them, too? I had a issue once with a Samsung device and my Creative wireless speakersystem with BT connection and it was cutting off randomly until I found out that another app was causing this.
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I had the same problem too and solved this by disabling the energy-saving-options. With energysaving all dataconnections will be disabled when the screen gets off.
You can also setup the energysavingsettings and disable the turn off from all dataconnections.
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These are the settings to disable.
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debug77 said:
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I used to have this problem in 1.28Rom with WifI turn on too, but it fixed in Rom 1.29. :laugh:
How did you get the updated rom?
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How did you get the updated rom?
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I work in Carrier shop in TW and for the Demo unit is already update to 1.29
ant78 said:
I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
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Thanks for the pointers guys. I installed AutomateIt so that when it connects to my car's bluetooth, it disables WiFi (and then switches it back on when I get out). Seems to work a treat!
HTC asked me to fill in a support call, but by the sounds of it it's hopefully all sorted in the 1.29 ROM Let's hope for a speedy release of it around the world :good:
Not sure what to do about the meta data though. I use quite a few different music apps (Soundcloud, Google Music, Sony Music, and Doggcatcher) so setting one to be default isn't really a solution for me unfortunately.
I'm getting both issues but I saw this thread before I got my phone and knew to turn off the wifi. A minor inconvenience but glad it'll be fixed in the next update.
As for the meta data, I'm using Gone Mad music player (the dev recently put it on sale and I fancied a change from the now-abandoned ubermusic). I can confirm that the track never changed from the first one I played. Haven't yet tried the stock music player, but I do recall that I had a similar issue on my SGS3 when using a combination of stock, ubermusic and google music. Very annoying. I think the same happened in the brief moment I had the Xperia Z too, so I would agree that it's an Android issue, not necessarily a HTC issue.
Hey there,
not specifically related to use with car sets, but I have general BT headset issues. I already tested two of them. I get dropouts every now and then, i.e. I don't hear the one on the other end, plus people absolutely do not hear me most of the time when I use the BT headset - I have to speak into the phone, and even then no sound at times. No problems with my former HOX though. Can anyone confirm? Am I deemed to NOT use WLAN while having a BT headset connected in general?
Thanks in advance .
I've been having audio issues via A2DP - but again only with WiFi enabled. Not a problem in the car as Tasker will turn off WiFi for me. But in my house when using A2DP streaming, I want to use my WiFi.
Let's hope 1.29 fixes, otherwise I might consider a 5Ghz router...
An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
F*ck me, that would explain why I was able to make normal phone calls when I am outside my office - there is no WiFi to interfere! I will have to test tomorrow again, but feel a bit irritated about the fact that I cannot use Bluetooth for audio and WiFi at the same time. Thanks for pointing that out again!
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An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
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If that was true you'd never be able to stream content over Wi-Fi (Hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Spotify) and listen to it over BT. That's done all the time. Wi-Fi and BT both use the 2.4GHz frequency. Maybe the requirement you read applies to via separate antennas which may be why both share a single antenna. Aluminum and wireless signals don't mix. Asus had BT problems with the TF201 because they had to compensate for the aluminum back of the device by amping the Wi-Fi signal to the point it overpowered the weaker BT signal. Since turning off Wi-Fi improves BT performance (and range) something similar may be occurring on the One. With so few devices in people's hands it's too early to call.
Here's the LTE SGS3 for T-Mobile that just passed through the FCC compared to the One.
Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
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Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
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Well, it's either the radio, h/w, s/w, or interference. The radio can be ruled out because the BCM4335 is specifically designed to reduce radio interference between competing signals. That leaves either something in the way the h/w is assembled, tuning of the radio drivers/settings or interference between the various radios caused by their output settings, antenna size/placement, or the aluminum body attenuating the signals. I guess time will tell which it is and whether or not it's a big deal to the majority of users.
The BCM4335 introduces the newest version of Broadcom's wireless coexistence technology. Handset makers can use this technology on 4G LTE cellular platforms to minimize the possibility of radio interference between Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and LTE, which operate in adjacent radio frequencies. Broadcom's Global Coexistence Interface supports the Bluetooth Special Interest Group's (SIG) LTE coexistence scheme and can be applied to future Broadcom LTE platforms, as well as 4G cellular platforms from other vendors.http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4335
Anand described the antenna structure but I don’t really understand whether he’s saying the entire horizontal aluminum strips on the back above and below the line of injected plastic are the antennas or that the design allows the discrete antennas to be more effective.
The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region.
But his comments don’t seem to jive with iFixit’s after their tear down. They seem to be implying the signals are transmitted through the plastic surround which makes sense but limits the transmission area.
The daughterboard remains, but there is still a mystery left unsolved. No phone operates without antennas, and antennas don't transmit signals well through metal walls. Considering that this daughterboard is on the receiving end of the motherboard's antenna cables and sits directly under the plastic bezel at the top of the phone, we're thinking it has something to do with wireless signals. See those three spring contacts along the top of the board? They meet the rear case in an area obscured by the plastic bezel. If we had to guess, that's where HTC put the antennas.
I would like to post the declaration from the FCC site. Its says it and the model of the bt/wifi radio in the device as registered although the part number looks like the phones part number with a few extra numbers. I truly hope this isn't one of those situations where some BT is unaffected because of the other end having better or newer processors. A la modern BMW's. The professional radio BT sucks it. Always drops even the best phone BT. So, if this phone has a nice antenna split tech and can be very fast at switching transmission times, but the other side cant keep up with the chop, we have a long term problem. I cant post the link because I am too new. Sorry.
Using sense 1.28.771.6, bluetooth/wifi work fine simultaneously.
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I tried today with WiFi off and must admit that this is the (temporary) solution. I am on stock with 1.28.401.7 and DO have issues with WiFi and BT being used simultaneously. Now I can at least use BT with my headset.