One issue ive never seen mentioned> - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello everyone
I recently, (finally) ordered a headphone/usb splitter thingy so i can play my tunes off the tilt in my car. Either thru an fm transmitter or a headphone/tape converter i put in the tape deck in my car. First off, im totallly impressed how great the sound is thru the stereo, a combo of car stereo settings/ and the audio booster/equalizer make even slayer sound good at the proverbial (11).
My question is this, im not sure if the att sites around here are jacked way up (power-wise) or what. But that annoying beeping, fluttering, digital sound you get thru your house speakers if you set your phone to close (or your tv or anything else w/a speaker for that matter)... its happening in the car also.
I can understand when im using the youtube player, the thing is streaming.
But even just playing mp3's or watching a movie thats on the SD card, i still get it from certain towers in certain towns. We have hellacious service here in New England, with alot of the towers on major routes not even doing handoffs correctly, resulting in missed calls etc. So i have a reason to wonder if its the service im getting i suppose.
Being the (non) brainiac that i am, i took a shield from a 25 pair cable i was punching down at work the other day, and put a large piece of it over my headphone wire/connector. Would this do anything? Is there such a device you could buy? (some sort of RF/emf shield?) It seems to work if the phone itself is the problem (youtube)... however coming thru by a certain cell tower again the other morning, that thing was chirping and burping like 2 dollar gutter whore.
Any suggestions or comments on this are appreciated, sorry for the rambling.

I live in North Mississippi near Memphis and have experienced the same issue. Sorry that I am no help towards a solution. Just thought I would let you know you are not alone.

freekquency said:
Being the (non) brainiac that i am, i took a shield from a 25 pair cable i was punching down at work the other day, and put a large piece of it over my headphone wire/connector. Would this do anything?
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Nope, the RF emitted by the phone is acting direclty onto the low level circuitry inside the car radio.
Even if you're not streaming anything, when the phone switches to another cell toper it notifies it that it has done so, and thus will communicate for a moment. How often it will do so, whether it will be on every tower or only after defined amounts of time, or even every group of X towers is defined by the operator. If you say coverage is know to be bad they might have just set it to notify on each tower and the phone is often switching.

Sometimes placing your phone on an antistatic bag, like Hard Drives come in helps. At least it does with computer speakers.

The noise is referrd to as RFI (Radio Frequency Interence) and EMI (Electro
Magnetic Interference). Both of these are what is affecting your system.
As your phone gets POLLED (Where are you message) by the cell phone tower, it responds with a "Here I AM" message. Its this initial communication
(handshake) that that is causing the interference.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
From another website:
"a cellphone tower can only support a limited number of simultaneously
connected cellphones. It therefore needs to know exactly when a cellphone
leaves its range, or disconnects from the network altogether, so it can free
up its connection slot for use by another cellphone. Normally a phone
communicates a disconnect to the tower whenever possible (for example if
it's getting out of reach and connects to another tower, it then disconnects
from the first and the connection gets transferred gracefully from the old
tower to the new one, even in the middle of a conversation). However, if you
just yank out the batteries, the phone gets utterly destroyed, you suddenly
enter a cage of faraday or even an underground tunnel, ... the phone will
have no time to notify the tower, so the tower needs to check up on
supposedly connected phones from time to time to check that none of them are
MIA. It's basically similar to an ICMP ping on the Internet. And that's what
you hear over your speakers. Similar thing happens right before a call or
SMS comes in, or when you dial out: there's two-way communication, and the
RF interference the cellphone puts out is picked up by your audio
equipment."

Either move your phone, or turn it 90 degrees to the right or left. It has to do with the phone switching over to Edge (or if it's always on Edge, you're gonna get it regardless) and the speakers are picking up the radio traffic as interference. It shouldn't happen when the phone is on 3G/HSDPA. Just repositioning the antenna, i.e. the phone, has always worked for me. You could also look up distortion reducing tricks, there was something on Makezine.com about putting magnets on the speaker wires to get it to stop, but I couldn't find the entry right now.

Cool beans, thanks for all the info. I understand about handshakes and all that and figured that was exactly what was happening. Doesnt seem to matter 3g/H/E certain towers do it no matter what im doing. As i noted the towers around here have been having major issues w/ handoffs so who knows. BTW not only does your cellphone poll constantly, but usually your phone call is happening on at least 2 towers at a time. So once tower A gets more signal then tower B it switches over to A (which already has your call processing at the same time) So yea its gonna happen no matter what i do. Truthfully its not that big of an issue, but i just came up w/ the greatest cheapo mount, and of course where i have the dam thing is directly over the stereo. lolz
Thanks again!

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Theory on Jabra BT8010 A2DP skipping

I have noticed that when my X7501 is dormant (screen off, phone on, BT on), ie being charged while connected via USB to my PC (using WM5 Storage Program, 'Activate' setting enabled), the Jabra will occasionally light up as if being queried, or itself sending a query to the X750x.
This may happen every 5 minutes or so. This may be the reason why music skips during playback.
What does everyone think?
Are there any BT registry settings that can dictate how often the BT connection is queried?
Next time I play back music, I will play with some settings. For instance, turning off the phone - though this is hardly ideal.
Next searching the registry....
Keith Walker
After I upgraded to WM6 CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3) almost all my BT skipping went away without any additional reg changes or patch programs.
I never see the condition you see.
That's the same version I have, it only skips every 5 min. or so. What blue tooth registry settings do you have?
"What blue tooth registry settings do you have".
Just what re-loaded after a hard reset. Any specific setting you might be interested in?
For instance my current settings are:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings folder:
Sample Rate: 48000
UseJointStereo: 1
there are other threads here, best to read them sequentially:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313445
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262119
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310438
The last 2 threads may be the solution. Sometimes it is hard to find all the info with all these subforums here...
I made the changes to Sample Rate and UseJointStereo in my previous version of WM6 but neither of the items show up in this version of WM6 and I have not seen any reason to mess with the registery at this point.
Anything else I can look at?
I would say if you don't have problems, or you don't mind the skips; then don't change a thing.
Another issue, is trying to isolate the cause. I believe bluetooth like wifi is constrained by the FCC to accept outside interference by law. So many times the skipping issue may be unrelated to the hardware or software, or outside your control.
I've only had one problem in the last few weeks: A phone call came in and did not transmit to my BT but stayed on speaker phone. After about 1 second it switched over to my Jabra 8010.
When driving, my BT is in my left ear and the 7500 is on the right seat. Maybe that is enough to cause a short dropout.
Ive had useable audio (static but understandable) between my 8010 and 7501 with 50 feet between them and: a metal bathroom door, one solid wall with steel studs, and a dozen cube walls with lots of metal in them. So I doubt wearing it on the opposite side of your body is a factor. The BT antenna seems to be quite good on the Athena.
I get the same type of BT skipping on my MBR-100, it only happened sometimes when I was on PK 3.0, but now that I have upgraded it seems to happen all of the time. I also get audible noise if I charge and use the MBR-100 at the same time. The reciever is almost unusable due to skipping. I used to think that it was a memory issue, but evidently some of the theories here are a bit different. Any one have any thoughts on how to stop BT skipping beyond the links posted above?
REF:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Bluetooth-Receiver-MBR-100/dp/B000NWB0J0
Thanks,
Bob

Electric Interference?

I got my Wings around December 26th and since then I notice sounds coming out of my Dell Desktop.
With time I was able to identify the sound with activity on the S730, at the moment I know when a call is coming before the phone rings, the computer makes a sound and a second or so later the phone rings. This happens without the phone connected through bluetooth or USB.
Same sound is coming from the baby monitor when the phone is about a foot from it.
Am I the only one with this?
J
I have this with every device if it is near a speaker...
Everytime when an SMS is incomming it makes a strange sound... that's normal
No its natural. These devices are picking up the signal, the phone recieves it processes it and makes the correct noise and preps for your input before alerting you. Whereas the speakers just make a sound.
Lots of places that require headsets and such do not want phones even on some times due to the interferance. Like TV studio's; Wireless micraphones, communication headsets and IFB's to the talents ears.
Its normal and everyone gets it, may not notice but eh.
It happens with all phones, not uncommon on Live news reports to hear the tell tale blip blip blip of an SMS going through.
I realised recently just how much my phone is talking to the exchange server, I just read an email and it's "blip de blip de blip" updating my phone straight away (which is a good thing!)
Yes it is common and this service communication "feature" between BTS and mobile is used on all Chinese blinking and alerting gadgets for detection incoming calls.

Pocket PC & Signal TV/Cell Phone Jamming

Friends,
Back in the 70's, my brother and I assembled one of those signal jamming devices for tv. This would create distortion, sound drop-outs and a lot of frustrated neighbors.. but all in good fun!
Anyways, I was thinking can the pocket pc (Tilt) do this with tv sets, or cell phones?
Tvos
Nope. In order for this device to be certified in the USA (and elsewhere) the Tilt has to pass all sorts of strict radio leackage tests to makes sure it CANT do exactly what you are describing. Also, scrablers such as you describe are quite illegal. There have been some movie theatre owners who install cell phone scramblers who have been slapped with some pretty hefty fines.
Jozer99,
Thanx for the info. It just would be nice when the wife is watching her favorite tv show, someone can fool with the reception.. then when she finds out, the Tilt goes airborne..
tvos
Movie Theaters
Now days some of the newer movie theaters are installing a type of wire mesh INTO the walls of the place when it is being built to create a sort of Faraday Cage. Which blocks incomming signals without being Illegal. More info on faraday cages follow the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
his wife would most likely smell the bacon before his radio dead zone was compleat

Bluetooth audio issues

Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
debug77 said:
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
The meta data issue is a common problem around Android phones I found out so far. I use N7player and on my car radio display it says Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk, but I'm playing I will be heard from Hatebreed. This happens on different phones with stock player installed.
The Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk is loaded in the stock music player, so the problem seems to be, that you have to find a workaround to get player X your standard player and disable everything else. Since I only use N7, I disabled every other player and it seems to work, but its a lazy workaround. Someone should find a fix for this. Maybe I should just use the stock filemanager and try to start a mp3 and than set N7 to default. Maybe this works.
For the BT cutting outs, I didn't recognize those cutouts. Don't ask me what is wrong at your side, I use a Pioneer DEH-X8500BT car radio and my HTC One is in my pocket. Do you have a bluetooth bridge like Belkin or Logitech BT Audio adapter or wireless speakers like Boombox or such thing so check if this happens with them, too? I had a issue once with a Samsung device and my Creative wireless speakersystem with BT connection and it was cutting off randomly until I found out that another app was causing this.
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I had the same problem too and solved this by disabling the energy-saving-options. With energysaving all dataconnections will be disabled when the screen gets off.
You can also setup the energysavingsettings and disable the turn off from all dataconnections.
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These are the settings to disable.
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debug77 said:
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I used to have this problem in 1.28Rom with WifI turn on too, but it fixed in Rom 1.29. :laugh:
How did you get the updated rom?
Spewy1 said:
How did you get the updated rom?
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I work in Carrier shop in TW and for the Demo unit is already update to 1.29
ant78 said:
I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
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Thanks for the pointers guys. I installed AutomateIt so that when it connects to my car's bluetooth, it disables WiFi (and then switches it back on when I get out). Seems to work a treat!
HTC asked me to fill in a support call, but by the sounds of it it's hopefully all sorted in the 1.29 ROM Let's hope for a speedy release of it around the world :good:
Not sure what to do about the meta data though. I use quite a few different music apps (Soundcloud, Google Music, Sony Music, and Doggcatcher) so setting one to be default isn't really a solution for me unfortunately.
I'm getting both issues but I saw this thread before I got my phone and knew to turn off the wifi. A minor inconvenience but glad it'll be fixed in the next update.
As for the meta data, I'm using Gone Mad music player (the dev recently put it on sale and I fancied a change from the now-abandoned ubermusic). I can confirm that the track never changed from the first one I played. Haven't yet tried the stock music player, but I do recall that I had a similar issue on my SGS3 when using a combination of stock, ubermusic and google music. Very annoying. I think the same happened in the brief moment I had the Xperia Z too, so I would agree that it's an Android issue, not necessarily a HTC issue.
Hey there,
not specifically related to use with car sets, but I have general BT headset issues. I already tested two of them. I get dropouts every now and then, i.e. I don't hear the one on the other end, plus people absolutely do not hear me most of the time when I use the BT headset - I have to speak into the phone, and even then no sound at times. No problems with my former HOX though. Can anyone confirm? Am I deemed to NOT use WLAN while having a BT headset connected in general?
Thanks in advance .
I've been having audio issues via A2DP - but again only with WiFi enabled. Not a problem in the car as Tasker will turn off WiFi for me. But in my house when using A2DP streaming, I want to use my WiFi.
Let's hope 1.29 fixes, otherwise I might consider a 5Ghz router...
An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
F*ck me, that would explain why I was able to make normal phone calls when I am outside my office - there is no WiFi to interfere! I will have to test tomorrow again, but feel a bit irritated about the fact that I cannot use Bluetooth for audio and WiFi at the same time. Thanks for pointing that out again!
jackdforme said:
An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
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If that was true you'd never be able to stream content over Wi-Fi (Hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Spotify) and listen to it over BT. That's done all the time. Wi-Fi and BT both use the 2.4GHz frequency. Maybe the requirement you read applies to via separate antennas which may be why both share a single antenna. Aluminum and wireless signals don't mix. Asus had BT problems with the TF201 because they had to compensate for the aluminum back of the device by amping the Wi-Fi signal to the point it overpowered the weaker BT signal. Since turning off Wi-Fi improves BT performance (and range) something similar may be occurring on the One. With so few devices in people's hands it's too early to call.
Here's the LTE SGS3 for T-Mobile that just passed through the FCC compared to the One.
Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
jackdforme said:
Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
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Well, it's either the radio, h/w, s/w, or interference. The radio can be ruled out because the BCM4335 is specifically designed to reduce radio interference between competing signals. That leaves either something in the way the h/w is assembled, tuning of the radio drivers/settings or interference between the various radios caused by their output settings, antenna size/placement, or the aluminum body attenuating the signals. I guess time will tell which it is and whether or not it's a big deal to the majority of users.
The BCM4335 introduces the newest version of Broadcom's wireless coexistence technology. Handset makers can use this technology on 4G LTE cellular platforms to minimize the possibility of radio interference between Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and LTE, which operate in adjacent radio frequencies. Broadcom's Global Coexistence Interface supports the Bluetooth Special Interest Group's (SIG) LTE coexistence scheme and can be applied to future Broadcom LTE platforms, as well as 4G cellular platforms from other vendors.​http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4335
Anand described the antenna structure but I don’t really understand whether he’s saying the entire horizontal aluminum strips on the back above and below the line of injected plastic are the antennas or that the design allows the discrete antennas to be more effective.
The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region.​
But his comments don’t seem to jive with iFixit’s after their tear down. They seem to be implying the signals are transmitted through the plastic surround which makes sense but limits the transmission area.
The daughterboard remains, but there is still a mystery left unsolved. No phone operates without antennas, and antennas don't transmit signals well through metal walls. Considering that this daughterboard is on the receiving end of the motherboard's antenna cables and sits directly under the plastic bezel at the top of the phone, we're thinking it has something to do with wireless signals. See those three spring contacts along the top of the board? They meet the rear case in an area obscured by the plastic bezel. If we had to guess, that's where HTC put the antennas.​
I would like to post the declaration from the FCC site. Its says it and the model of the bt/wifi radio in the device as registered although the part number looks like the phones part number with a few extra numbers. I truly hope this isn't one of those situations where some BT is unaffected because of the other end having better or newer processors. A la modern BMW's. The professional radio BT sucks it. Always drops even the best phone BT. So, if this phone has a nice antenna split tech and can be very fast at switching transmission times, but the other side cant keep up with the chop, we have a long term problem. I cant post the link because I am too new. Sorry.
Using sense 1.28.771.6, bluetooth/wifi work fine simultaneously.
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I tried today with WiFi off and must admit that this is the (temporary) solution. I am on stock with 1.28.401.7 and DO have issues with WiFi and BT being used simultaneously. Now I can at least use BT with my headset.

Dual BT Question

Which is your favorite color phone case?
After watching a few YouTube videos I now understand that the dual feature of the Note 8 Bluetooth has nothing to do with Bluetooth 5.
From what I've learned, Bluetooth 5 is simply a combination of Classic Bluetooth (2 & 3) coupled with Extended Bluetooth (high range with lesser throughput), which does NOT mean you can expect to crash n your speaker in the house from the garden.
In other words, for the DUAL Bluetooth feature on the Note 8, it would appear that there are in fact two separate BT reciever / transmitters.
Can anyone verify this?
Also, if this is true, how likely will it be that either a software update or an app will be able to take advantage of this, and split stereo channels to two separate Bluetooth speakers, thus giving true stereo sound in the home?
AddictedToGlass said:
Which is your favorite color phone case?
After watching a few YouTube videos I now understand that the dual feature of the Note 8 Bluetooth has nothing to do with Bluetooth 5.
From what I've learned, Bluetooth 5 is simply a combination of Classic Bluetooth (2 & 3) coupled with Extended Bluetooth (high range with lesser throughput), which does NOT mean you can expect to crash n your speaker in the house from the garden.
In other words, for the DUAL Bluetooth feature on the Note 8, it would appear that there are in fact two separate BT reciever / transmitters.
Can anyone verify this?
Also, if this is true, how likely will it be that either a software update or an app will be able to take advantage of this, and split stereo channels to two separate Bluetooth speakers, thus giving true stereo sound in the home?
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Why I dunno, ATG! That's a pretty good friggin' question about a thousand dollars phone to ask here, on what's arguably the largest collection of handset-technology educated folks on the Internet.
Ohmagosh, let's see what they say...!
AddictedToGlass said:
Why I dunno, ATG! That's a pretty good friggin' question about a thousand dollars phone to ask here, on what's arguably the largest collection of handset-technology educated folks on the Internet.
Ohmagosh, let's see what they say...!
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Why I don't know, maybe it does have two BT chips in it. I'm going to guess it does. The delay sucks though for sure.
Meh... I'll take any answer I can get at this point just get the discussion going. Can't believe this hasn't been a major discussion topic yet, and I can't find anything about what I'm asking on the web.
The delay can be remedied by changing placement of the phone between the devices. In other words, from what I've read / heard, no matter how different the two speakers are, there's a theoretical distance between each one that is the ideal placement for the phone where they'll be no lag between the two. I've done this in my own house. I relocated a small table in the foyer to get optimum placement between the dining room and living room speakers.
I have yet to try this with identical speakers to check if midway between them is ideal placement for the phone.
AddictedToGlass said:
Meh... I'll take any answer I can get at this point just get the discussion going. Can't believe this hasn't been a major discussion topic yet, and I can't find anything about what I'm asking on the web.
The delay can be remedied by changing placement of the phone between the devices. In other words, from what I've read / heard, no matter how different the two speakers are, there's a theoretical distance between each one that is the ideal placement for the phone where they'll be no lag between the two. I've done this in my own house. I relocated a small table in the foyer to get optimum placement between the dining room and living room speakers.
I have yet to try this with identical speakers to check if midway between them is ideal placement for the phone.
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My problem isn't the latency it's the dang volumes. Even with the setting. Can't think of it as I haven't tried in a while. But one of my speakers are as quiet as can be the other is blazing loud. I could never get them to even nearly match...
Surely it's only got one Bluetooth chip just allows more than 1 connection.
No different than having your speakers and a watch connected at the same time 2.
Just 2 audio streams at once
What hasn't Bluetooth allowed more than once bt device gonna had before as long as they used different profiles
I have several speakers, and also two of the same model by the same brand, and until now, I could never get then to play at the same time.
Maybe I should just bitter the bullet and buy a system that splits the stereo channel between two speakers after.
Dual Bluetooth feature means that you can connect with two Bluetooth audio devices at same time and music on the phone will be played simultaneously on the both devices. Left audio channel on the first connected, Right audio channel on second connected.
Switch "Dual audio" via 3dots Bluetooth menu.
Only first device can control (pause/play/next/previos) phone's player.
There is no need both devices to be same brand/model.
Bluetooth version of devices is also not important.
All version are backwards compatible with previous versions. So if your phone is v5, first speaker v4, second v2, so all communications will be on v2.
Even v1 Bluetooth support up to 8 devices multiple (serial) connections. One phone connected to 7 others and gaming multiplayer (Nokia N-gage) . But just now manufacturer deside to make two (audio channels) connection.
ChoSmile, I'm failing to understand...
Are you saying they are already separated into left and right audio channels??
dual Bluetooth has nothing to do with channel separation; all it does is allow 2 devices to be connected to your phone via Bluetooth at the same time, listening to the same exact audio stream
Jammol said:
Why I don't know, maybe it does have two BT chips in it. I'm going to guess it does. The delay sucks though for sure.
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Meh... I'll take any answer I can get at this point just get the discussion going. Can't believe this hasn't been a major discussion topic yet, and I can't find anything about what I'm asking on the web.
The delay can be remedied by changing placement of the phone between the devices. In other words, from what I've read / heard, no matter how different the two speakers are, there's a theoretical distance between each one that is the ideal placement for the phone where they'll be no lag between the two. I've done this in my own house. I relocated a small table in the foyer to get optimum placement between the dining room and living room speakers.
I have yet to try this with identical speakers to check if midway between them is ideal placement for the phone.
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I play music through poweramp to 2 phillips bt speakers that can connect together anyways. But it's a pain to connect them like that so I just connect them with the dual bt the phone uses. I know what your talking about with the delay so right away I figured out that after they are paired and music starts playing (delayed of course) I simply force close poweramp, go back in and hit play and..... No delay
I'm using 2x Sony Srs-XB10s which natively support stereo pairing themselves, and I dual audio to a Marley with a cheap iPod dock, bluetooth adapter.
There's a ~1s delay from the Sony's when they're in native-stereo mode.
There's ~0.3s delay when they're attached singularly over Bluetooth. This fluctuates, but usually grows to ~0.8s over 2 minutes, then resets.
It's upsetting the audio can't be delayed per-device manually.
I love the technology though and it excited me I could in theory have 5.1 with this solution (Marley is almost a 2.1) but alas it's not mature enough.
Keenly interested in the progress of this feature! Saves the manufacturer having to implement it, though Sony's, despite the bigger delay, is very very simple and obviously there's no delay between their own 2 speakers.

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