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results after upgrading to wm5

hi all, well i finally had the courage to upgrade to wm5, i am overall really glad i did it however there are some issues i figured u might help me with.
1. i cant seem to find the device info (the one that shows the radio version ect...)
2.) i heard that wm5 comes with microsoft voice command, however i cant find it either.
3.) when i connect to the gprs i have to softreset to shut it off i was wondering if there is another way to shut it off without reseting.
thanks all

1. You need to see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27614 and the file you are looking for is ba_wm5_fix_v1.rar. This adds Device Info to your control panel as well as other apps like the ability to turn down your screen brightness, etc and some reg fixes to help speed up the little beast. There are some other files there too like a patch to get the camera working.
2. You heard wrong :roll:
3. Afraid I cant help you with as im having problems atm just getting my GPRS to connect, let alone disconnect. But this I can wait for since I have wireless access at home and at work.
Hope i've been some kinda help.
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3. Got my GPRS working and I can disconnect be pressing and holding the call disconnect button for a few seconds.

great thanks a lot much faster and all the errors seem to be solved cheers!

3.) when i connect to the gprs i have to softreset to shut it off i was wondering if there is another way to shut it off without reseting.
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press and hold the call end button. seems to work for me!!

silent_killa said:
3. Got my GPRS working and I can disconnect be pressing and holding the call disconnect button for a few seconds.
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Did you set up GPRS for O2 ? I'm getting the error "UNKNOWN APPLICATION" when it tries to connect for me. Is that what you had?
Thanks

Now if we could only figure out that damn b/t problem.....LOL
Later........... 8)
takharma said:
great thanks a lot much faster and all the errors seem to be solved cheers!
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voice command 1.6's BT responsiveness

I'm sorry if this has already been posted somewhere but I couldn't find anything on it. I finally got around to installing this on my MDA using it with the SonyEricsson's SBH-662 (or something like that). The original Voice Commander responds rather quickly but with the VC 1.6, I have to press that button on my BT headset 6 times just to get the voice prompt. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

nxZEN 5500 and MS Voice 1.6
My MS V works near flawless. I hold the button for about a second and I hear the beep in my earpiece. Recognition and response greatly improved.
You DID install to the device and not you storage card, right?

Dr Puttingham said:
My MS V works near flawless. I hold the button for about a second and I hear the beep in my earpiece. Recognition and response greatly improved.
You DID install to the device and not you storage card, right?
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I have to agree VC works very well even better than version 1.5. From what i have heard you can now install to the storage card but perhaps we are seeing the results of doing so. When I first read the title to this thread I said to myself hmmmm. I do think that this version is just a little slower than the previous one but it may just be me anyway overall I'm quite happy with the way it works and think i will most likely buy a copy for my wife's SDA she keeps asking for it.
Kirby

This is what I'm experiencing:
the MDA goes turns off (screen is off). I press the BT button on my headset to activate VC and the MDA turns on. the problem is that it doesn't get out of the My Info screen. If I get out of that screen, I'm alright.
Wordaround:
1: go to Start->Settings->Owner Information
2. proceed to Options tab.
3. Untick "Identification information" under "When the device is turned on, display:"
I guess no one has that ticked.
PS: This is also true if you have your device pswd protected. You will have to press the BT button again, after you have entered your password.

LordPhong said:
This is what I'm experiencing:
the MDA goes turns off (screen is off). I press the BT button on my headset to activate VC and the MDA turns on. the problem is that it doesn't get out of the My Info screen. If I get out of that screen, I'm alright.
Wordaround:
1: go to Start->Settings->Owner Information
2. proceed to Options tab.
3. Untick "Identification information" under "When the device is turned on, display:"
I guess no one has that ticked.
PS: This is also true if you have your device pswd protected. You will have to press the BT button again, after you have entered your password.
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I don't want to sound harsh here, but this has to be said in the most realistic form possible...
READ THE MANUAL!!!!
But since someone else will probably ask the same question a million times i'll copy and paste the information from the manual for you...
The Voice Command Button doesn't work when the password screen is displayed - The password screen blocks the Voice Command Button to avoid other people from placing phone calls while your device is locked. To enable, uncheck the 'Password Protected' option. Note some organizations prevent this override from working due to increased corporate security measures.
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Honestly in the future read the manual it will make you look wiser and make people like me less upset.

I did get a hold of the manual after the post and realized that check box. However, that tick does not help by pass the "My Info" screen. I still have that problem. Hence, my workaround.

LordPhong said:
I did get a hold of the manual after the post and realized that check box. However, that tick does not help by pass the "My Info" screen. I still have that problem. Hence, my workaround.
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If your workaround fixes it then it can serve as a resource for people when the manual isn't working...
I recommended the manual simply because i had the problem when i first installed VC 1.6 and after ticking the checkbox, as mentioned in the manual, the problem was solved for me.
My specs are as follows...
T-Mobile MDA (USA)
Official T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
Plantronics Discovery 340 BT headset
I have no problems with BT and VC 1.6.... I haven't changed my owner info or my password protection. The headset wakes my phone from standby and is ready to go when i press the button on the headset.

frazell:
you're a freaking moron. I said what I said in the followup because it's supposed to help you if the program isn't doing what it's supposed to do. I don't know where you've been but this happens in the software industry. The manual says one thing and the software does something else. As a software developer, this i DO know.
Here are MY specs:
MDA
Offical Tmo's 2.26 /w radio 2.47 <-- that might be the culprit
opmap
SE HBH-662
BTW, the manual ALWAYS works (unless you have problems opening up doc files or ur doc file is corrupted). It's the freaking program that doesn't work according to what the manual says.

25 years in the world of IT/software R&D have taught me that often times the developers and the people doing the documentation sometimes don't communicate very well.
Kirby

Anybody using IM+

I was using the demo which seems to work ok. So I bought it. Now I have an issue where once I close the IM program (but running in background), if I open the IM or try to read an incoming message, I don't get the IM+ window. I do get the bottom bar with all the menus that work, but I can't see my IM or the contact list.
I don't know what is causing this. I tested this program pretty much all the way through all my loading of my software. It was working. Then all of sudden it quit working, I tried to uninstall everything but that didnt fix it. I tried reinstalling the program but that too failed to help.

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Hmmm, I bought one also but have not got that kind of issue.
So far so good.
I think you need to contact their support.

i have no problems with im+ either

no problems here

I contacted them 11/13 but still no answer. And just now I just tried to remove it and.. if I turn off "ALways run in background" it fixed it. BUT of course it shuts down the program the minute I close it. I moved the program over to the exceptions list for my tast manager. Now it sorta works. Thank GOD. I thought I waisted $40 on this program.
Not sure what this does:
"Prevent automatic power down"
If this option is marked with flag, your Pocket PC will be prevented from going to standby mode.
I think my Tilt still goes to sleep, like as if I pressed the power button after a few minutes, with or without the check on that box so I'm not sure what it does.

starstreak said:
Not sure what this does:
"Prevent automatic power down"
If this option is marked with flag, your Pocket PC will be prevented from going to standby mode.
I think my Tilt still goes to sleep, like as if I pressed the power button after a few minutes, with or without the check on that box so I'm not sure what it does.
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It's only meant for Pocket PC's, not PPC PE's. This is why there's no difference on a PPC phone.

Try 2 open the Today Screen with the Start Button.. or try to check if X BUtton is used just minimize and close on longer push.
both are options which should work.. had the same problem. you'd better bought agile messenger:O

-adrian- said:
Try 2 open the Today Screen with the Start Button.. or try to check if X BUtton is used just minimize and close on longer push.
both are options which should work.. had the same problem. you'd better bought agile messenger:O
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Note that many people are complaining about Aglie's sending passwords in cleartext

Menneisyys said:
Note that many people are complaining about Aglie's sending passwords in cleartext
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Not to mention the whole pricing scheme they came up with, IM+ is a one time fee. Also, I've noticed more compatibility with Services from IM+ over Agile. Agile doesn't always recognize Aliases set by Messaging services, and I found it to be more bulky and bloated, but thats just my opinion. I wrote an email (using the form on the site) to ShapeServices support and got a response in 2 days... Not the most outstanding response time, but I guess better late then never.

Thanks for the replies. I found agile a day AFTER I bought IM+. It looks good, but didn't seem to be as polished as IM+, although IM+ isn't working all that great for me at the moment, but it is running now). Agile has something about paying $40+ for a lifetime subscription. Or was that for a years worth... I did like how you could send voice messages and pictures really easy in agile.
One thing that bothered me was, do these programs do a "forwarding" to keep track of what you send on their servers? I think Agile does. But I think IM+ uses AIMs server, but I could be wrong.

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One thing that bothered me was, do these programs do a "forwarding" to keep track of what you send on their servers? I think Agile does. But I think IM+ uses AIMs server, but I could be wrong.
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You mean are they all central server-based solutions? To my knowledge, yes - everything you say goes through their servers.
starstreak said:
I did like how you could send voice messages and pictures really easy in agile.
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With the free Fring, you can even chat in voice (not just send voice clips) - it supports VoIP and is great. A Kaiser-compatible version has been released recently; I've published a news item on it today.

I'm using Palringo at the moment, with pidgin on my desktop to manage my list from until the next version comes out that has the brunt of the missing features. For my vote, it's the snappiest UI I've seen so far, a Today plugin is in the works (for now it's a tray icon for notification), has GREAT camera support like Agile, fun PTT radio like audio. Audio and Pictures work will non Palringo clients as well, they just recieve a link that lets them play / view through a web browser.
Their support is also friendly and fairly active on the forum. This IM client also has "groups" which are sort of like chat rooms that you can subscribe to. These have proven fun and useful as well in my experience.
I had agile, but it was to slow, I've had IM+ but was mislead by a phone rep that my phones version supported file transfers (what I liked), so they gave me a refund. I've also had Fring, but it doesn't support Yahoo or AIM, which I use about as much as any other. Once fring gets those I'll be tempted to go back to it though, excellent peice of code.

I have I'M+ on my XV-6700 installed on to the storage card, and as long as I don't suspend power everything works fine. If I do suspend power then when I turn the device back on it can't find the storage card, have to do a soft reset to be able to see the card again!

debating if its worth it, what other software would you recommend?
I need AIM and Google Talk

I found something bad. I guess I was wrong, If I turn this on, my tilt doesnt go insto standy. You tend not to notice this because most people hit the off button on the side of the unit. But I noticed it never shut down when I doing nothing (I have it to turn off after 2mins). But if I turned this off, then it would shut down. But I noticed with the Tilt off, IM+ would disconnect but not show that it was disconnected when you turn it back on.
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Originally Posted by starstreak
Not sure what this does:
"Prevent automatic power down"
If this option is marked with flag, your Pocket PC will be prevented from going to standby mode.
I think my Tilt still goes to sleep, like as if I pressed the power button after a few minutes, with or without the check on that box so I'm not sure what it does.
It's only meant for Pocket PC's, not PPC PE's. This is why there's no difference on a PPC phone."
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Anyone using IM+ with Dutty's Kaiser DualTouch v1.1 ROM?
I am having problems with IM+ on Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 ROM and was wondering if anyone else has run into similar problems. I posted a description of the problem in Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 ROM Thread, but it doesn't seem like anyone there uses IM+. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I can not get AIM+ to work with Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 rom. When ever I open up a buddy, it does not give me the textbox below to enter a message. Anyone else with this issue? Agile does not work with my dataplan but works through the USB connection.
- Alex
cctang said:
I am having problems with IM+ on Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 ROM and was wondering if anyone else has run into similar problems. I posted a description of the problem in Dutty's DualTouch v1.1 ROM Thread, but it doesn't seem like anyone there uses IM+. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Works now with Dutty's last rom! but only problem is the vibrate feature. i can't get it to work even though its checked. any ideas?

Data Connection Button

Hi,
I sent back my first orange TYTN II because their GPRS internet kept connecting everytime I turned on the phone and also every so often for no reason (little connecting icon at the top of the screen kept coming on and the timer started to count). The lady on the phone told me it is meant to do that on PDA phones to speed up accessing the internet explorer and using the internet, after a week of phone calls lol but i'm not sure about this as a guy in an orange shop told me their's doesnt do that. I ordered mine online. Also if this was the case I wouldn't know how long I would be using their GPRS for? lol. Maybe its only an orange thing. I don't know this is my first PDA phone. I told them to disable Orange internet completely from my phone which they did but it still tried to connect and failed lol. I couldn't see any application trying to access the internet etc.
I recieved a new TYTN II after a lot of hassle. Everything seems to be working fine. The problem is now the "Data Connection Button" in the Communication manager doesn't come on at all and I am not sure whether it is suppost to or not. I gather this button is meant to turn off all data connections in one go. Does this include WanLan Wifi? as it doesn't come on when i active this. I cant try the orange internet again because i told them to disable it. I am thinking to call them up to re-enable this but i was just wondering if there is any point in doing this and if there is any point in this button apart from closing connections.
Another question I would like to ask is why when I go into my SMS messages and click on one to read does the scrollbar start at the bottom of the page. i have to scroll up to actually read the message which is annoying. Is there a setting for this? ><
Help appreciated thanks. ^_^

I doubt a faulty device was the reason for the GPRS connection. There are several things on the device that have auto update features. Siome of the things that can cause this are: WLM, HTC Home (Weather Page), Quick GPS, etc...
As for the Data Switch in Comm manager, that is only for data, 3G, GPRS, etc... There is a WIFI/WLAN switch in most kaiser models as well.
Unless you close all the way out of the email app, (end program, x-button) it will open where it last was. Selecting a method other than "Recieved" such as "From" or "Subject" can also cause the device to open if different positions.

Thanks for the reply GSLEON3,
I couldn't find any reason for why the GPRS was automatically connecting when I turned on my phone. I didn’t have any weather etc, it was doing it after I hard reset also. I noticed that it did it every time I turned on my phone however if I used my old sim card before they disabled it for the upgrade it started to do it randomly which was odd. Well it doesn’t do it on my new one so I guess I’m happy. Maybe it was the quick GPS ill never know now. I have installed the HTC home interface because I hate all the orange crap they put onto the phone.
“As for the Data Switch in Comm manager, that is only for data, 3G, GPRS, etc...” just to turn off these data connections? Or does this button speed things up or do something else when it is activated? Ah yes how silly of me about the Wifi. I was just wondering why my data connections button wasnt coming on and really i just want some kind of method for testing it apart from GPRS (dont have provider's GPRS activate) and 3G (video calls? do they come out of my minutes?). I'm confused.
When I click the little SMS button which is located more or less in the center of the home screen above the shortcut tabs it goes to the messages page. On this page I have the Inbox filter selected on the top left and the Received filter selected on the top right. At the moment I have 73 SMS messages going down in a list. When I click any of these to read them including newly received items which go to the top of the list I cannot read the actual message until I scroll up using the scrollbar. I have tried to play around with menus etc to see if it holds the position in memory but I have had no luck in making the bar stay at the top.
If I click the top left button and then click Today to go to the home screen the SMS application automatically closes anyway so it wont open where I last was or keep anything in memory. I think this is what you are saying to do. If I open to read any message and then go out to the list of SMS's it wont remember the scrollbar was last at the top when reading the message so keeping the application in memory will have no use as it resets to the bottom as I enter to read any message. I hope this is clear, sorry if it is long-winded.
Many Thanks

Nevermind I have found out why the message bar keeps going to the bottom in the SMS page. Its because of the "D-Pad Scroll Navigation" in the Kaiser Tweak application.
I will just assume that the data connection button is not required and not worry about it i think. Can't find any information about it.
thanks.

WM 6.1

Hi guys, I upgraded my Tilt to WM 6.1, downloaded from HTC web site, tilt sometimes freezes, in slide open positions the tabs text can be seen only pressing the tabs, plus when I open the menus only get a whit screen on the menu window. I unistalled the kaiser tweaks I was using with WM 6.0 but othing happens, keep doing it. Any Ideas?

Disable Cleartype?
Hello rudysan,
Before you removed kaisertweak, did you turn off cleartype in landscape first? Kaisertweak is merely a limited registry editing tool, and removing it will not undo what it has already changed in the registry. Put kaisertweak back on the device and see if you can turn cleartype in landscape off. Then, soft reset and see if that works. Good luck,
Dave

Thanks a lot Dave, worked perfectly. Great help!!
probably yoa can help me with something else, since I installed WM6.1 on the top bar pf the screen I'm not getting the connectivity service kind, like, G or 3G or E, only get an small x with the arrows like the WIFI. Any ideas, and thanks again

Is airplane mode on? That is the only way that I ever get that symbol on my taskbar. Try Kaisertweak and see if edge or GPRS or 3G are disabled , and if so, enable them and reboot. Otherwise, maybe you are not in a cellular service area. That symbol also shows when I'm out of cellular range. That's all I can think of. Hope that helps you,
Dave
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