I just upgraded my Tilt to Dutty's wm6.1, and I was wondering if there is something that I can do to make it so I can purchase things from MEdia Mall from AT&T. There are a couple of things that I need to get from there, and now it won't let me...says "we're sorry, your device is not supported for purchases on the MEdia Mall".
I know on Motorola phones you can add the Cingular certs to a folder (at least in the older p2k phones), which re-enables access to purchasing. Is there something like this that we can do to Tilts with an upgrade ROM? A cab we can install or a registry edit? I'm assuming we just need to do something that AT&T sees it as a Tilt and not an unknown phone.
I searched, but didn't see anything on this subject.
i've been looking for the same thing. I'll see if i could point you in the right direction. I remember reading something a while back about RestoreProxy and Disable Proxy.. maybe you want to restore the proxy to get it to work. Do a search in google because the search feature in this forum never find anything for some reason. Google. Restore Proxy Kaiser in google you should find someting
Well, you have to go through the proxy to even connect to the MediaNet homepage.
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There is also an option in KaiserTweak to change how your device identifies itself to websites. Try changing the setting to AT&T Tilt. Combine that with the AT&T hidden proxy, and you should be good to go.
NotATreoFan said:
There is also an option in KaiserTweak to change how your device identifies itself to websites. Try changing the setting to AT&T Tilt. Combine that with the AT&T hidden proxy, and you should be good to go.
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I could get on with either one. I did it before.
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Folks,
Used to have a HTC Universal (Vodafone v1640) that I never got working with Vodafone Live in the UK. Now have a v1615 (Kaiser) and wondering if this device can be made to work and access Vodafone Live.
I'm fairly technically literate (though not an expert!) and have to admit to getting a touch lost on a couple of things I've read on various websites. Not to sure how to change registry settings on my machine, but no probs learning, and very familiar with all the standard wap settings etc required.
My v1640 used to just hang if i pointed it to "www.live.vodafone.com", my Kaiser will now access the site but gives the following error in Explorer:
"Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.live.vodafone.com
The dnsserver returned:
Name error: The domain name does not exist.
This means that:
The cache was not able to resolve the hostname presented in the URL. Check if the address is correct"
I never got this error message on the 1640 - it just sat there and did nothing. So i'm wondering if this is any further progress or not? Or are these HTC devices (as Vodafone confirmed today) just not meant to connect to Live without serious tweaking.
I am more than happy to have a hack at my machine but am slightly lost at where to start here in order to achieve this on my brand new device for which there still doesn't seem to be much info.
Have Vodafone got this device almost ready to access Live? Or is one of the posts i've seen somewhere just a fantasy?!
All I really need is just a basic guide going through it with this new device.
Can't believe Vodafone don't have this working in the first place...
Thanks.
Isn't it live.vodafone.com rather than www.live.vodafone.com?
yes, and you need some proxy settings as well to use it. the only way I got Live.vodafone.com to work was by adding it as a modem connection under my work network if you are looking to use it as a data plan only and it will only work with EAS and PIE, no VOIP or messenger will work. As for using the vodafone live site, you need to change some regkey settings that will fool the the vodafone proxy to think that you have an approved handset for vodafone live, you should find examples in this forum if you search around, I think Modaco also has some entries on this. Bottom line is that Vodafone never intended to let it be used with PPC, because once they loose that control they cannot sell their services, advertise etc which is why it's a relatively useless solution for anyone who use their offer of 500 MB for 10 Eur or something along those lines.
Cheers
LBN
Thanks guys. Yes - it is just live.vodafone.com - was too busy with work...
Ok, starting to get an idea of what needs to be done. Have seen so many posts on various websites that I wasn't quite sure where to start.
I'm guessing that changing the regkey settings is the first thing to try then? Is there an easy to use registry tweaking tool?
Been messing around for a while now and nothing I do seems to make any difference!
I've tried all kinds of different Reg Key settings, every combination of wap and internet access points, and nothing seems to change anything.
Basically no matter what i enter, (either wsp://live.vodafone.com or http://live.vodafone.com) it only connects through a wap connection, and it only brings up a very basic vodafoneLive series of text based web pages with no access to anything interesting.
Do WM6 devices such as mine have different Reg Key settings / areas that need modifying? I'm surprised that putting Nokia settings in, or any other setting has no effect at all!
Anyone??
The vodafone live portal requires a "template" to be present at the vodafone end which defines which screen size and content the device can handle. Unless Vodafone have created one for the v1615, you will need to alter the useragent to look like a device which does have a template...
Without a devices presenting its self as a supported device, you will not be able to access live services.
Why not look at the user agent of the Treo 500v? That is the frist real consumer WM device which has the ability to view the live portal.
Gotcha. Makes sense, thanks for the tip.
Any idea where to find details of a Treo 500v user agent?? Will give it a go if I know where to find one!
Hi,
Take a look at
http://www.modaco.com/Vodafone-Live-Settings-t259142.html
Guys,
I just got a Vodafone Treo 750v which i really like. but it doesn't have Vodafone Live or Mobile TV access on it as standard. I managed to get my Tytn II working (with your help and the Modaco forum) several months ago and now I'm trying to see if you or anyone can get my 750v working.
First thing i did was install a cab file (from the thread in the post above) on my machine and setup a wap connection and i was straight in to Vodafone Live all of a sudden. Got to mobile tv page but Windows media player wouldn't connect via wap. So went to xda-developers page and downloaded the HTC v2.10 streaming player and installed it and set it up to connect via wap.
Success, almost - choosing a channel to watch now launches the HTC player and starts to buffer the video but when it gets to almost 100% buffered and is ready to start showing video it suddenly hangs, then has an error and wants to send an error log to Microsoft. Its almost like the HTC player is missing something or some codec or dll file.
Anyone know how to crack this last bit? Anyone use a different Streaming media player to do this?
Hope someone can help!
Paul
I've been searching the whole forum today and others where I thought I would find an answer, but I still can't find anything that tells me where to look.
Of course, we know the search isn't so great here, but I may have not searched very thorougly, so I'm posting this here in case someone might know off the top of their head where to look.
I don't know if it's PIE or the AT&T proxy that's causing this, but I don't see the problem using Opera Mobile with the same connection. I'm using PIE+ 2.2 on IE, but I remember this occuring even before I installed the plug-in.
I've encountered some sites where IE will *seriously* compress the images and cause them to be very pixelated and distorted even in Desktop view.
I guess I could use Opera, but there's some limitations on it that PIE with "+" overcome.
Any ideas or suggestions?
its AT-T I wouldnt use the MediaNet that the Auto config sets you up with. I personally use the wap.cingular settings and have no issues what so ever
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its AT-T I wouldnt use the MediaNet that the Auto config sets you up with. I personally use the wap.cingular settings and have no issues what so ever
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Can you still access MediaNet and Cingular Video with those settings? I was also having problems checking my AT&T Yahoo! IMAP accounts using "My ISP", but they work just fine with MediaNet...
And while we're on the subject: Anyone know why I can't access the mobile Bank of America site anymore? Can't get on it with either Opera or IE - It says that 'for security reasons my device can't acess Mobile Banking.'
I just got my Tilt and have been carefully searching and planning my hacs. I'm actually thinking I may just go with some of the HTC hacks versus a new rom but still haven't decided. My question is whether someone could define what bloatware programs are loaded in after a hard reset and the "Customizing device" notification comes up and begins unloading ATTs cabs. The only other post I found refering to them says try the phone without them and see if it's ok, what are they? Basically I'm not worried about their music downloads, etc. I just don't want to download something they install specifically to help with the edge of Hisgh speed services. Thanks.
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I just got my Tilt and have been carefully searching and planning my hacs. I'm actually thinking I may just go with some of the HTC hacks versus a new rom but still haven't decided. My question is whether someone could define what bloatware programs are loaded in after a hard reset and the "Customizing device" notification comes up and begins unloading ATTs cabs. The only other post I found refering to them says try the phone without them and see if it's ok, what are they? Basically I'm not worried about their music downloads, etc. I just don't want to download something they install specifically to help with the edge of Hisgh speed services. Thanks.
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None of the shareware games/apps get installed as well as default ATT apps/settings. You can always configure the internet and other settings using one of the many cab files floating around here.
As far as core functionality, it's all there if you do the bloatware-removal trick, so you don't have to worry about any extra programs for the high speed connection etc. I did it with mine, after trying the HTC ROM on my Tilt, and to be honest I like the debloated Tilt rom better than the HTC rom. But yeah, the bloatware is most of the demo games in the Games folder, the pay-per-month GPS option (which is apparently decent, but there are free and other alternatives out there that work fine) and just all of the AT&T goofiness. I forget what else was involved with the bloatware, cause it only lasted an hour or so on mine before I was reflashing.
Sounds great, thanks.
I posted all of the programs you get with the standard AT&T ROM before and after bypassing the startup customizations. It is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335335&page=4
I'll see about adding this to the WIKI too.
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None of the shareware games/apps get installed as well as default ATT apps/settings. You can always configure the internet and other settings using one of the many cab files floating around here.
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Actually the at&t Tilt Roms have at&t MediaNet & ISP APN connection profiles built in even without the "Customization" program running.
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Actually the at&t Tilt Roms have at&t MediaNet & ISP APN connection profiles built in even without the "Customization" program running.
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My unlocked TyTN II had those setup once the AT&T SIM card was placed in it.
I need access to a direct ftp port with the http://65988.0023.XXX style connection but I can't get access to it unless I am using WIFI? what setting can I change to stop this?
try disabling the proxy settings, sometimes bypassing your networks proxy settings will open up all sorts of options you where once blocked from accessing
how would I go about that? I didn't know I was behind proxy settings? And do I need them to access medianet?
in your connection settings go to manage existing connection, select proxy settings and untick the box that says this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet and leave the box ticked that says this network connects tothe internet.
Ive disables my proxy settings for t-mobile Uk internet settings and now it connects alot faster and pages seem to be loading faster also
doesn't work... Darn this sux... I test it with www.msn.com and it still makes it pull up msn.mobile... how annyoing...
bump anyone have anything on this?
I would really appreciate help with this because I have to access a program that I can't otherwise.
If you're looking to hit an FTP site, then I'd grab an FTP client for WM and stop futzing with IE in the first place. Or am I misunderstanding what you're doing?
not it is not an ftp it is an http://112.2232.224:2324 type of site... that is all.
Don't know your carrier but here's a cab that disables the "hidden" proxy in AT&T and one that restores it. Worth a try?
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Don't know your carrier but here's a cab that disables the "hidden" proxy in AT&T and one that restores it. Worth a try?
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i have att... thanks trying now...
RemE said:
Don't know your carrier but here's a cab that disables the "hidden" proxy in AT&T and one that restores it. Worth a try?
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YEAAAAAAAAAAA I don't know what happened... but since I installed your thing it works perfect. damn I was getting peaved... when I go to msn.com thought it still brings up msn.mobile though. Well at least I can go to anywebsite I want now.
Do I ever need to put the proxies back? I guess I should just put this on my card just in case.
Again, Thanks... What else am I able to do now?
In the Tilt, Internet Explorer's user agent string is locked to mobile internet, meaning that websites will see your device as a mobile device. If the site has a mobile site, it will automatically re-direct you to that. In WM5 devices, you could use software to change IE's user agent string to make it look like a desktop, but on the Tilt, you can't.
You'll need to get Opera Mobile if you want the internet to see your phone as a desktop.
I think for what your trying to do you need to use the MY ISP settings instead of medianet settings. But I don't know what they are anymore. I think you will also need the right data plan to use them.
does PIEPlus User Agent setting work with Tilt?
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In the Tilt, Internet Explorer's user agent string is locked to mobile internet, meaning that websites will see your device as a mobile device. If the site has a mobile site, it will automatically re-direct you to that. In WM5 devices, you could use software to change IE's user agent string to make it look like a desktop, but on the Tilt, you can't. . .
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Is this true even if using PIEPlus? PIEPlus Tools>Options Plus>User Agent allows setting User Agent to IE 5.5 or IE 6.0 (which should be seen by websites as a regular computer) in addition to the default PIE setting (which is seen as mobile)
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Is this true even if using PIEPlus? PIEPlus Tools>Options Plus>User Agent allows setting User Agent to IE 5.5 or IE 6.0 (which should be seen by websites as a regular computer) in addition to the default PIE setting (which is seen as mobile)
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what is pie plus. First off, I tried using opera mobile desktop setting and when I went to www.msn.com it still comes up as mobile. Do I have to configure something further?
Lastly, I just told you all that the program for turning off the hidden proxies worked. So for what I was trying to do those programs the other person posted worked nicely. However, it still sucks that I can't bypass the mobile crap... There is a program called deepfish from microsoft that addresses the issue exactly, however the jerks won't let the beta out any further. I am gonna aaddress that issue in another post.
I believe the problem is something in the WM6 or the Tilt itself because Opera doesn't work either.
Boy I'm glad you guys worked on this. I upgraded to Tilt yesterday and was cracking my head against the wall trying to figure out why the HTTP addresses wouldn't resolve with the same settings I've been using in my 8525. @#$%#@ Hidden Proxy! lol
Cheers and Happy New Year!
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what is pie plus. First off, I tried using opera mobile desktop setting and when I went to www.msn.com it still comes up as mobile. Do I have to configure something further?
Lastly, I just told you all that the program for turning off the hidden proxies worked. So for what I was trying to do those programs the other person posted worked nicely. However, it still sucks that I can't bypass the mobile crap... There is a program called deepfish from microsoft that addresses the issue exactly, however the jerks won't let the beta out any further. I am gonna aaddress that issue in another post.
I believe the problem is something in the WM6 or the Tilt itself because Opera doesn't work either.
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In Opera Mobile go to Menu>Tools>Settings then change Identify as from Handheld device to Desktop computer.
I want to use BB connect to get my email/etc pushed to my Kaiser. I set it up fine, but got a call from TechSupport saying only the BB 8700c is allowed after it reported back to them that I was using a Kaiser.
Anyone know a way to fake out the BB push server to make it think I am using a 8700c and not the Kaiser?
Thanks!~
That's nonsense. I'm using a Tilt on the Blackberry Enterprise Server. Maybe the aren't aware that the Tilt has BB service?
Anyway, try downloading the BB connect desktop software. From there you can configure your device automatically to connect.
that's not the issue.
To the OP,
do you have BlackBerry Connect? Or BlackBerry Connect with PDA Connect?
Because if you just have Blackberry Connect, AT&T's Policies say that you must have the PDA Connect and Blackberry Connect package to use the blackberry on a non RIM device. I know it's stupid. I know just using Blackberry Connect will work ( I'm doing it too ). But it's AT&T's policies.
Also, re-check your OLAM and see if they removed or added any feature after calling you. Sometimes the system will red-flag and attach the pda connect feature. If you got a call just by using it, not by calling, then your account was most likely flagged by the system.
I think he has BB Connect and it works fine for him, but his corp is telling him to use only the corp issued BB 8700c.
I'd like to figure this out as well.
Even if you manage to "cloak" your device now, I'm pretty sure your IMEI gets sent along with the rest of your device information.
If you suddenly start using a "Blackberry 8700c" with the same IMEI as your Kaiser, they may smell a rat (of course, they may never notice).
I have a similar issue. I cant use 3 live stream because my device is identyfied as a tytn and not as a nokia crap phone... anyone had luck in changing id in explorer?
I think there's a reason if your corp admin only allow genuine Blackberry devices.
Ie. even if you get the Blackberry connect, your Kaiser won't be able to remotely wipe itself in case you loose it ...
(so that make perfect sense to me)
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I have a similar issue. I cant use 3 live stream because my device is identyfied as a tytn and not as a nokia crap phone... anyone had luck in changing id in explorer?
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Yes, I created a cab file to identify my phone as an N95 so that I could use Vodafone Live. Someone on the Modaco forum mentioned that it also worked for "3", though I can't confirm that myself.
Here's a copy. You can install it to identify the phone as an N95, and uninstall it to go back to normal...
Should also mention that for Vodafone Live, you have to be connected via the "Contract WAP" connection. Vodafone Live wont let you in if you're connected with the "Contract Internet" connection, I have no idea whether "3" do something similar though?
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Yes, I created a cab file to identify my phone as an N95 so that I could use Vodafone Live. Someone on the Modaco forum mentioned that it also worked for "3", though I can't confirm that myself.
Here's a copy. You can install it to identify the phone as an N95, and uninstall it to go back to normal...
Should also mention that for Vodafone Live, you have to be connected via the "Contract WAP" connection. Vodafone Live wont let you in if you're connected with the "Contract Internet" connection, I have no idea whether "3" do something similar though?
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Great - THX. I will subscribe to 3tv next week and see if this fine piece make it all the way. Will be back with experience as this could be quite a solution for all 3 Mobile users...
Interesting sub69...I was wondering myself if this is possible. Do you know how people could identify their PDA's as other phone models so as to try and by-pass operator service restrictions? I'm hoping to identify my Kaiser as either a Sony Ericsson K790 or LG TU720 Shine.
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Interesting sub69...I was wondering myself if this is possible. Do you know how people could identify their PDA's as other phone models so as to try and by-pass operator service restrictions? I'm hoping to identify my Kaiser as either a Sony Ericsson K790 or LG TU720 Shine.
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First you have to find the user agent string for the device you want your Kaiser to be identified as (I have an N95, so I used it to go to www.useragentstring.com).
Then you need to hex edit your Kaiser's "browser.dll" file (which you'll find in the \Windows folder). You need to search within "browser.dll" for the Kaiser's original user agent string, and then overwrite it with the one of your choice.
Edit the regirsty at: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent] so that that shows the new string too.
Save the new "browser.dll" file to \Windows (overwriting the old one) and soft reset. Then when you go to www.useragentstring.com, you should see that your Kaiser is identifying itself as something else.
If you want to go back to normal, you can delete the new "browser.dll" from \Windows, and the original one will handily reappear, as it's stored in the ROM.
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First you have to find the user agent string for the device you want your Kaiser to be identified as (I have an N95, so I used it to go to www.useragentstring.com).
Then you need to hex edit your Kaiser's "browser.dll" file (which you'll find in the \Windows folder). You need to search within "browser.dll" for the Kaiser's original user agent string, and then overwrite it with the one of your choice.
Edit the regirsty at: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent] so that that shows the new string too.
Save the new "browser.dll" file to \Windows (overwriting the old one) and soft reset. Then when you go to www.useragentstring.com, you should see that your Kaiser is identifying itself as something else.
If you want to go back to normal, you can delete the new "browser.dll" from \Windows, and the original one will handily reappear, as it's stored in the ROM.
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Thanks sub69! I'll give it a shot...I'm trying to gain access to some of my carrier's services that they don't off to WM devices.
Hello all,
I installed the CAB on my Kaiser and it works great. Thanks for this post. I have T-Mobile Mobile TV in the Netherlands.
I first called the helpdesk and they told me my phone is not compatible with the service.........
This is the links to the T-Mobile Mobile TV Website:
http://t-mobile.nob.nl
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I tested to open the link directly without the CAB installed and with the default User Agent String and it works fine.
Hi,
Is it possible for some one to make a cab file that would identify my Kaiser WM6.1 as the 3 Skypephone or INQ handset?
Thanks
There is a Wiki here, maybe somebody update it if applicable.
An updated list of mobile User-Agents
great cab file. it actually wotks with coreplayer.