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Cannot connect to Slingbox on AT&T

This is the most appropriate location I could find to post this, as I have three HTC devices (8525, TyTN 2, and Advantage) so I thought I would start here.
Issue:
I can no longer connect to my Slingbox on my home network when using my MediaNet (wap.cingular) connection on the TyTN 2 or the Advantage.
Error Message: Cannot connect using these settings. But email and web work from the MediaNet settings, so I am fairly certain the configuration is correct.
Facts:
- The connection works over Wifi on either HTC device, so I know my Slingplayer Mobile settings (Finder ID, etc.) are correct.
- The connection works using a Verzion Motorola Q. My corporate VPN connection also does not work with AT&T, but does on the Q through Verzion.
Conclusion:
AT&T has (or did) make changes to the proxy used which prevents services running on certain ports from working correctly.
Question:
Is anyone else having problems connecting to their Slingbox? If you can connect, what settings are you using?
Additionally, could someone please explain the differences between the wap.cingular and isp.cingular settings? Do you have to use isp.cingular to get VPN and other advanced services to work? If so, what is the minimum data plan you must subscribe to with AT&T to be able to do so?
Thanks in advance,
Rob

I cant say why you are having issues. My Slingbox connection works fine (actually much better than fine) via my Kaiser on AT&T with MediaNet. It works better than it ever did with my 8525. I do notice that I do have 2 separate Connections, one for MEdiaNet and the other called "My ISP" which both point to the same wap.cingular APN. Not sure why I have 2, but everything works fine. The MediaNet one is "hidden" and I can't change it. The My ISP one is visible, but I don't want to delete it since everything seems to work fine. It just switches between them (albeit unnecessarily) to make things work when needed.

Furthermore, I am using wap.cingular exclusively. If you do connect to a VPN, you must use isp.cingular. The normal MediaMax, MediaNet and smartphone plans give you wap.cingular. The PDA plans give you isp.cingular. Blackberry plans may give you neither (they go to blackberry.net).

Thanks
Can I ask what port # you are using for your Slingbox? I am using 5001 for one of mine. Did you have to make a rule entry in your router or firewall? I am just trying to determine why suddenly I cannot connect. I am going to pop my SIM card back into my 8525 when I get home and check it again. The last time I tried it on the 8525 it worked. The trouble is, there aren't a lot of changes to make. it's pretty much wap.cingular and the password.
Thanks, and if you think of anything else, please let me know.
Rob

my slingbox works just fine on att. WHen i had the isp.cingular it did not. i had to change it to wap.cingular to get it to work.

Hmmm, don't know th eport off hand, but I want to say i'm justusing the default.

Did you upgrade to the new Slingbox firmware the past couple of days?
I did and could not connect. I called Slingmedia and they told me they had some issus with the new firmware and UpnP settngs in some routers.
I had to go into the Slingbox settings on the desktop PC and manually open the port in the router. If you call them they will take you step by sep

I had the same problem it took me 10 hrs to finally find the answer. It has nothing to do with your port your finder ID at all. like the a previous stated you need to use a different connection setting to use slingbox. Use or create the my isp connection. the only difference is one use proxy settings and one does not. to be honest i just deleted the media net profile and used my isp exclusively. the only problem is medianet keeps showing up in my connection settings. the medianet setting can also screw with push email retrieval

Thanks so much NJXBEAN! I could NOT get Slingplayer to connect until I made that change in the modem settings. It works great now!
-Jerry

Proxy was blocking me...
After experimenting with mine further, I was FINALLY able to connect by unchecking the "use proxy server" setting on my unlocked Kaiser. I wonder if the AT&T "Tilt" build of the OS will even allow this?

AT&T Tilt and Slingbox
Right out of the box, Slingplayer worked on my Tilt. I made no changes to the proxy settings.
I have the media net unlimited plan.

It could be a firewall issue. If the connection you have is listed as "Connects to the Internet" it'll block some ports. If you have Connects to Work, it'll open all ports.

I just just want to say that you guys are great! I had a problem with sling, researched on it here, and found the problem without asking..People, u gotta love it!!!!!!

rtsrob said:
This is the most appropriate location I could find to post this, as I have three HTC devices (8525, TyTN 2, and Advantage) so I thought I would start here.
Issue:
I can no longer connect to my Slingbox on my home network when using my MediaNet (wap.cingular) connection on the TyTN 2 or the Advantage.
Error Message: Cannot connect using these settings. But email and web work from the MediaNet settings, so I am fairly certain the configuration is correct.
Facts:
- The connection works over Wifi on either HTC device, so I know my Slingplayer Mobile settings (Finder ID, etc.) are correct.
- The connection works using a Verzion Motorola Q. My corporate VPN connection also does not work with AT&T, but does on the Q through Verzion.
Conclusion:
AT&T has (or did) make changes to the proxy used which prevents services running on certain ports from working correctly.
Question:
Is anyone else having problems connecting to their Slingbox? If you can connect, what settings are you using?
Additionally, could someone please explain the differences between the wap.cingular and isp.cingular settings? Do you have to use isp.cingular to get VPN and other advanced services to work? If so, what is the minimum data plan you must subscribe to with AT&T to be able to do so?
Thanks in advance,
Rob
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have you found a fix, i have the x7500 and my slingbox worked fine at first then after a couple of months it just stopped and i could not receive email either, i found a workaround for the email but i have not found a work around for the slingbox.
P.S. i recored myself talking to an at&t rep you should listen to what he says
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40AMIyc_yM

Found a Fix
It cannot connect to isp.cingular, you need to ADD wap.cingular apn to your network settings.

hnada said:
It cannot connect to isp.cingular, you need to ADD wap.cingular apn to your network settings.
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If you just make your default connection Media Net it's already going to be set for wap.cingular
isp.cingular is the default only if you have it set to use ATT ISP as your connection.

Wow, I want slingbox now. I didn't even think of it working on my Tilt....is the data transfer extreme????????

AT&T Settings for EDGE, 3G

I have been lusting after a Windows Mobile device for around two years, just waiting until the perfect phone came along. Finally the Kaiser is here, minus the VGA display, but seemingly everything else I could ever want. I would prefer to buy the unlocked version, but I have a serious reservation. While I waited for the Kaiser, I bought an unlocked Nokia 6131, but I had no luck making certain features (mobile web, sending pics to email) work on Cingular/AT&T wireless. I would be rather pissed if I bought a $800 BRICK!
My question: I know many of you are using the Kaiser on AT&T here in the USA. Is there a definitive source for the settings needed to use the EDGE and 3G networks? Could someone please post the link or the settings here? One thread I read indicated that the Kaiser automatically connects to these networks--is that true?
There are a lot of inexperienced people out there posting rubbish answers to questions like this. I'm a noob and I wouldn't presume to give advice to someone unless I knew what I was talking about. I'm hoping this thread will be useful to anyone considering an unlocked Kaiser, so please keep the misinformation to a minimum.
Thanks!

I'm using Kaiser in California on AT&T. I have 3G at my house, and there were no settings that were required for the phone to work. I put in the sim and it took off running. I've sent pics, text, slingbox streaming video, email, no issues at all.
I did load a different comm manager with a "3G" button to hold off 3G to save battery and give me control as to when I need a fast connection.

I use it in NYC on AT-T/Cingular and have no issues I use the wap.cingular settings for data and MMS since I hate MediaNet. But it works great and have 1.2MB download speeds every time I test.

Thanks for the quick replys. I was under the impression that the Kaiser came with the ability to turn off the 3G when you are out of range, is that not the case? Also, what are the wap.cingular settings that you are referring to? Did you have to input them before the phone worked? (I'm sorry for my ignorance!)

If you buy an unlocked TyTN II, it comes with a configuration app for most carriers including AT&T/Cingular. So, it works essentially out of the box with the 3G/Edge and of course phone network.
But even so, if you need to manually config it, here are the entries. Note, there are 2 different network APNs for AT&T depending on what plan you have. If you have a MediaMax, MediaNET, or Smartphone pdata plan, then use the first. If you have a PDA plan, then use the second set.
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: ISP.CINGULAR
User name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
You can do a google on wap.cingular also, and will take you to many pages with more detailed instructions also.

jomo25 said:
If you buy an unlocked TyTN II, it comes with a configuration app for most carriers including AT&T/Cingular. So, it works essentially out of the box with the 3G/Edge and of course phone network.
But even so, if you need to manually config it, here are the entries. Note, there are 2 different network APNs for AT&T depending on what plan you have. If you have a MediaMax, MediaNET, or Smartphone pdata plan, then use the first. If you have a PDA plan, then use the second set.
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: ISP.CINGULAR
User name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
You can do a google on wap.cingular also, and will take you to many pages with more detailed instructions also.
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As I mentioned, I'm doing fine with the initial startup when I installed my sim card. However, I do have a PDA plan so I did add MyISP with ISP.CINGULAR to connect to the internet.
I still see the unit connect via MediaNet for certain applications but can't find where that config is located as I only have one defined connection labeled AT&T GPRS with the ISP.CINGULAR access point.
Does anyone have an idea as to why that would be?

I'm with AT&T in CA and am using the iPhone plan. The auto config sets the data connection to ISP.CINGULAR. You'll need to change it to WAP to get connected properly for Gmail and Internet. ISP works but only for the Internet. For some reason it fails for email, Gmail POP3 email anyway.
My connection switches automatically between EDGE, GPRS and HSDPA.

RemE said:
As I mentioned, I'm doing fine with the initial startup when I installed my sim card. However, I do have a PDA plan so I did add MyISP with ISP.CINGULAR to connect to the internet.
I still see the unit connect via MediaNet for certain applications but can't find where that config is located as I only have one defined connection labeled AT&T GPRS with the ISP.CINGULAR access point.
Does anyone have an idea as to why that would be?
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It's hidden. Mine does the same, even tho both the visible "My ISP" and hiddne "Media NET" connect to the same place. It might be viewable in the registry...

Under Start - Settings - Connection Tab - Connections, checkout Edit Work settings...that's where I found Medianet settings.

Does Blackberry Connect fall under a PDA plan? Basically, should I use the ISP.Cingular?

cman6453 said:
I'm with AT&T in CA and am using the iPhone plan. The auto config sets the data connection to ISP.CINGULAR. You'll need to change it to WAP to get connected properly for Gmail and Internet. ISP works but only for the Internet. For some reason it fails for email, Gmail POP3 email anyway.
My connection switches automatically between EDGE, GPRS and HSDPA.
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I didn't know you could get an iPhone plan (unlimited EDGE, no 3G) for a device other than the iPhone. How did you pull that off?

caleymac said:
Under Start - Settings - Connection Tab - Connections, checkout Edit Work settings...that's where I found Medianet settings.
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Found it Thanks! I went to the connections tab, didn't see MediaNet. It turns out that it was a pull-down choice for both Internet and Work fields. I just pulled down MediaNet for work, then went into Edit, tapped and held to delete the MediaNet entry. Now it's gone from the pull downs.
When I was speed testing the Internet Sharing with my Laptop, I found that when using speedtest.net that the wap.cingular connection shows it's origin on the USA Map in SpeedTest as Florida (I'm in Calif). When I ran Speedtest using isp.cingular, the location origin was Los Angeles and it tested faster for me.

RemE said:
Found it Thanks! I went to the connections tab, didn't see MediaNet. It turns out that it was a pull-down choice for both Internet and Work fields. I just pulled down MediaNet for work, then went into Edit, tapped and held to delete the MediaNet entry. Now it's gone from the pull downs.
When I was speed testing the Internet Sharing with my Laptop, I found that when using speedtest.net that the wap.cingular connection shows it's origin on the USA Map in SpeedTest as Florida (I'm in Calif). When I ran Speedtest using isp.cingular, the location origin was Los Angeles and it tested faster for me.
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Thats Bizzare... For me, I am on the PDA connect plan and I am forced to use wep.cingular, because, I can't connect to ISP.Cingular... When I asked ATT about this, she said, "We are migrating all users regardless of whether they are on the PDA or Media net to the wep.cingular access point... I had a notion she was full of it, but now I know she is full of it...
With the pda plan I shouldnt have any problem connecting to isp.cingular, correct?
JB

I'm on the unlimited PDA plan and using isp.cingular

RemE said:
I'm on the unlimited PDA plan and using isp.cingular
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Did you have to give them the IMEI #?
I just got off the phone with a supervisor from ATT telling them that I want to know why I can't access ISP.CINGULAR ap and only the WEP.CINGULAR.
Their answer was because they don't know my IMEI number and that if I gave that to them then it would work... I told them thats Customer support BS and that I can't find my IMEI number. I also told em that if my phone is capable of connecting to the wep.cingular ap that there is no reason I wouldn't be able to connect to the isp.cingular ap unless I wasn't provisioned for the PDA plan and just provisioned for the media net plan, even though I am paying the extra 20 dollars for the PDA plan...
I can't stand ATT, I am with them only to get 3g in Los Angeles.. As soon as another company matches what att has to offer I'm leaving att...
Anyone have any ideas and advice about this?
JB

RemE, did you purchase your old 8525 from cingular? If so, then they obviously have your 8525 imei#. Did you ever tell them you upgraded from the 8525 to the Kaiser? If not.. then they probably think your still on the 8525. If so, then the 8525 is a pda which the kaiser is as well, which means that maybe they won't provision you for the pda plan unless they know your using a pda.
Just a thought.
JB

No, I set up the account initially with a Razr on Cingular, migrated to a 8525 and expanded to unlimited data. I was using wap.cingular all that time, didn't know about isp.cingular. I had noticed the origin as Florida when speed testing the connection.
When I got the Kaiser, popped the SIM in and it auto created the MediaNet connection. In reading this forum I found the isp.cingular and gave it a try and found that it shows origin in LA, so I went that route and now have deleted MediaNet. I haven't had any contact with AT&T about any of this.
Edit; they have my 8525 imei on file as my current phone.

RemE said:
No, I set up the account initially with a Razr on Cingular, migrated to a 8525 and expanded to unlimited data. I was using wap.cingular all that time, didn't know about isp.cingular. I had noticed the origin as Florida when speed testing the connection.
When I got the Kaiser, popped the SIM in and it auto created the MediaNet connection. In reading this forum I found the isp.cingular and gave it a try and found that it shows origin in LA, so I went that route and now have deleted MediaNet. I haven't had any contact with AT&T about any of this.
Edit; they have my 8525 imei on file as my current phone.
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So when you migrated to the 8525, Cingular knew about it, right?
JB

Tilt not sync'ing on 3G at all

First I don't post much usually because I can find the answer by searching, however I have not seen this one.
My kaiser will not sync to OWA when on the ATT network at all. It will sync fine from any wifi spot (be it at work or home), but it will not sync at all if I am on edge or 3g. I am using the HTC shipped rom on the ATT tilt.
If it were a active sync settings problem then why would it work over wifi, I though the mechinism was the same either way. I don't think it is a internet settings problem either since I can browse just fine.
Couple of closing thougths.
1. I have hard reset (twice) with no luck.
2. I have set up several other WM5 and WM6 on our network with no problem, all using the same corporate ATT account..
3. I have tried it with Direct Push on and off.
4. Please don't post "mine works fine" without any advice, it just clogs up the thread for no reason.
Here are my connection settings.
Internet
Access Point: wap.cingular
User: [email protected]
Pass: Whaterver HTC put in
Domain: blank
Thanks for the help, I am really baffled here.

Is your proxy server enabled? If you have the default Tilt ROM there should be two icons in the Programs | Tools | Proxy Manager folder to enable/disable the proxy. I find that having it enabled messes with OWA and the like. The only time I enable it is when I want to go to http://home for AT&T specific stuff.
.:Christian:.

I don't have a proxy set that I can tell (I am using the HTC rom not the ATT so I don't see a Tools folder under Programs). Couple other odd things. When connecting to the data for the first time, it says connecting to MediaNet. I don't have a connection setup called MediaNet the one I setup is called My ISP.
When it syn'cs it finds that there are changes (say 0/2 emails), then it gets them (2/2), it then immediately stops and never processes them. It returns a code 0x80830003 which says something is not setup right on exchange, but it is setup fine as there are 10 other WM phones that work fine.

Ok thanks for pointing me in the right direction, it was the proxy settings, but it was on the MediaNet connection. I somehow had 2 connections setup. I could not delete the MyISP one (that is the one the HTC wizard setup) so . I deleted the MediaNet connection, and renamed the My ISP one to MediaNet , then disabled proxy on the it. All is well. Thanks again!!!

Excellent!

1.37 ROM - TMobile USA - Internet just not working!

Since upgrading to 1.37's EU ROM, my Tmobile settings jus simply aren't working. IE, Opera and ASync cannot dial wap.voicestream.com, and no matter how many times I delete and recreate....I just can't get my Tmobile USA Internet to work.....
I know this is a dumb issue...but any thoughts on how to configure this ROM to get it to work?

I'm sure this is what you're doing but...
Go to setting - all settings - conections - connections
and check exactly what you have there.
APN: wap.voicestream.com
username: [none]
password: [none]
Check all the advanced settings and proxy etc are off.
Also it might be something to do with the network in your area at the moment.

Thanks. I've done exactly that, as well as let the Connections Wizard configure my device for Tmobile USA, and neither is working. Wifi works great of course. Tis very strange......

hmm u got another phone there you can try?
Usually when wierd stuff like this happens its some network problem and you find out after 2 hours of wating your time

No coffee in me yet......other phone has the same issue....damn roaming providers!!! Thanks for the sanity check!

LOL.....wife knew about the issue last night!!!! hahahaha!

Disable internet access while roaming? (but keeping GPRS/Wi-Fi/etc)

I've got a UK T-Mobile Vario III and will be in the states for two weeks soon.
I want to disable over-the-air internet access to avoid roaming data charges if any applications decide they want to go online (e.g. the weather plugin). I want to keep GPRS operating for send/receive of picture messages.
I'll have the laptop with me (with internet access) so I'd like the phone to still access free internet data when I've got the USB sync cable connected (or via Wi-Fi when I'm in a wireless hotspot).
Could someone remind me how to disable over-the-air internet while keeping the other stuff?
Andre

NoData
Try this: http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
Works great for me.

Thanks for the tip, that worked great to turn data connections off, but it also disabled MMS (picture message sending) which is cheap on roaming and I will want to use quite a bit. It was just internet roaming data that I wanted to prevent.
Any other ideas?
Andre

Try NoData from Modaco. You can chose between mms or internet disabling.
See attachment!

plaktoets said:
Try NoData from Modaco. You can chose between mms or internet disabling.
See attachment!
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That's the one I tried (same filename anyway) but it only offers one item to enable/disable via the 'Toggle' option, thus:
T-Mobile Internet - ENABLED
Andre

andrewilley said:
That's the one I tried (same filename anyway) but it only offers one item to enable/disable via the 'Toggle' option, thus:
T-Mobile Internet - ENABLED
Andre
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Disabling that connection shouldn't disable your MMS connection, they're completely separate. I installed my T-Mobile settings via a cab on these forums (since I'm not using the stock ROM) and the two connections appear seperately in NoData.

profahmad said:
Disabling that connection shouldn't disable your MMS connection, they're completely separate. I installed my T-Mobile settings via a cab on these forums (since I'm not using the stock ROM) and the two connections appear seperately in NoData.
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On my stock ROM, it looks like the MMS sending is done via the T-Mobile Internet connection.
In Messaging > MMS Options... the server it uses is "T-Mobile PictureMessage".
When I click on that to check the settings, it uses the following:
Gateway: 149.254.201.135
Port: 8080
Server address: http://mmsc.t-mobile.co.uk:8002/
Connect via: T-Mobile Internet
Any further thoughts? I don't want to mess too much as we go away in a couple of days and don't want to break the phone...
Andre

Just spoke to T-Mobile. They say it's absolutely impossible to do with this type of phone - either you have internet on (which gives you MMS too) or you turn the whole GPRS connection off (thus losing internet and MMS messaging at the same time).
I expect they're wrong, but I'm now at a dead end.
Andre

I didnt see it mentioned, but if you happen to know all the carrier information for the internet account, you could always go to "manage connections" and delete all of the data connections there. You can put it back in in the matter of a minute or so later when you need it but it would without a doubt keep you from getting any usage charges.

I have t-mobile with stock 6.1 (dutch) and for me its certainly possible to enable internet and/or mms seperately.
You could also try kaisertweak if you havent already. It has options for enabling/disabling certain connection types.

My problem is that the UK stock ROM seems to route MMS traffic via the Internet connection, so if I disable internet it blocks MMS too. I don't have any separate settings for T-Mobile MMS that don't use the internet connection.
Andre

thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure

thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure
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I experienced this when I flashed a custom ROM and for a while it did my head in. I realised that it was because I didn't have any defined connection settings - once I installed the T-Mobile settings cab it opened and ran as expected.
Are your GPRS/MMS settings configured?

andrewcjduong said:
thats weird, when i installed nodata and ran it it said: An unexpected error has occured in NoData.exe. Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information.
ive already did a restart a few times, it might be because i have my kaisertweak as well. but im not exactly sure
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same as profahmad, try it with a previously configured connection