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Help with internet sharing/tethering on Vista

OK so I thought I was halfway intelligent about all this but apparently not. I can't seem to get my internet sharing to allow me to tether on my new Tilt. I had it working fine on my Sprint Mogul so I know theoretically how to do it. I have the stock AT&T ROM (allowed customizations; just lazy about figuring out what I'd need of the customizations so I live with the bloat).
I created a shortcut for IntShrUI.exe in my \windows\start menu\programs folder to start the internet shar. I start Internet sharing and select USB and AT&T ISP GPRS (or MEdia Net; same result). It says connected and doesn't give me any errors but I can't seem to connect to anything from my PC or even ping anything. I'm using a Windows Vista PC. While internet sharing is connected I can connect to the web on the phone itself but not from the PC.
I was originally on "PDA Personal Max UNL + 1500 Messages" but I couldn't seem to connect to ISP.CINGULAR and I thought maybe that's why I couldn't tether (and I thought it'd probably prevent me from connecting to my corporate VPN). So I called in and the tech guy said that plan isn't provisioned for ISP.CINGULAR so he switched me to the "older" (his words) PDACnctUntlAdd which is the same price and includes ISP.CINGULAR but not 1500 messages. In hindsight I'm guessing that's not my problem (especially since it didn't fix it) and I'll prob go back to PDA Personal Max with the 1500 messages once I figure out the tethering and assuming it allows me to VPN.
My settings are:
AT&T ISP GPRS
Modem:
APN: isp.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1 (doesn't show it but found that online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
MEdia Net
Modem:
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: ????? (doesn't show it and never looked for online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
I've tried to do it with the proxy disabled (running Disable Proxy from programs) and with it enabled with the same result.
So what can I be doing wrong? I'm sure it's something supremely stupid (if it's not a provisioning problem but how could it be that?) but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Any help greatly appreciated and let me know if there's anything else you'd need to know to get this working.
If it matters I have the following installed:
Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722.HTCHome.Dir.With.Brig htness.Fix.Updated.01OCT2007-schen.cab
duttythroy HTC Audio Manager 1_2_816716.cab
duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder 1.10.1717.2221.cab
duttythroy HTC_SIM_Manager 6.31.cab
duttythroy Task Manager 2_0_30995_1.cab
HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad.cab
Kaiser_BCR World_Card_1_0_070724b_x.cab
Vibra (Switch) 1.32.cab
ComMgr3G(10 Buttons)fixed.cab
cecmd.arm.cab (Total Commander beta 2.5 build 3)
HHCv10b5.CAB (HTC Home Customizer v1.0 beta 5)
LiveSearch.cab
Tillanosoft tGetFile.dll (for pocketnester)
Microsoft Office OneNote Mobile
RViewer.cab
Birdsoft All-in Hold-em
Google Maps

So your device says connected (and can surf the web) but your laptop wont connect?
So is your laptops firewall blocking the network?
Have you tried it over bluetooth, and use the BT PAN option. Select BT in ICS and click connect, and click YES to allow it to be discoverable, then in Vista, click start, connect to, Then click Set up a network or connection. Then scroll down to the bottom option (BT PAN). Click it and it will offer your device's BT PAN, select that and click connect.
Wait for 30 seconds, then open the web.

Solution from ATT-Connect your Laptop/PDA
Here ya go! Tried it myself with the usb. Workin good-ATT has a comm manager app that installs on the laptop.
Here's the link to the ATT support for it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
Alemaker

Thanks for your help; hadn't thought of turning off firewall since it worked with the mogul without doing that. Tried that and it didn't work. Then tried with bluetooth and that didn't work either. Didn't want to use the ATT comm manager on the off chance that they could track tethering usage on it.
And of course it was a stupid thing not to check but something made me try connecting to an IP address and not a URL and BAM! it worked. So I guess I have a DNS problem and not a connection problem.
So now anyone have an idea why the laptop can't resolve DNS but the Tilt can? Should I manually set free public DNS servers on the Tilt? Or on the laptop?

Vista you said? correct?
Try making the network that Vista sees when you connect-private; if it's public,it'll block stuff

Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.

get tethering working yet?
hi,
i have the same issue. have unlimited data plan on my tilt. no problem with connection on my tilt (although i did not put in all that proxy setting crap att asks you to put in).
anyhow
- installed the htc modem driver on my laptop.
- turned on the modem on the tilt
- created a new dialup connection on my xp laptop
---> question here, what is the "phone number" that should be dialed???
--> for [email protected], password is CINGULAR1 also
as a last resort i will try using the att comm manager, but like you i don't really want to do it due to any tracking att may be doing...
would be great to hear if loading that local dns resolves your problem, altho it seems kinda clugey (sp?)

lol-
ya'all kill me.
Anything at all,including data; going through any major network in the U.S., is tracked- period. Cell calls,data,internet connections, and even landline calls are ALL tracked in the U.S. now. Thanks to the current administration, EVERYTHING is tracked.
Alemaker

I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
@jprai I did get tethering working by just changing my DNS settings on the laptop to free servers. I'm not using wireless modem but the Internet Sharing app on the PocketPC (go to \Windows and copy the shortcut "internet sharing.lnk" to your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory and then you'll be able to start the app easily). It's much easier to use (well now that the DNS issue was figured out).
I'm still very curious why DNS isn't working for me with the default settings and it does for everyone else but I'm OK with this work-around for the time being.

erikk said:
I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
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Sorry for gettin us off topic with this,p but, yup^^^^), and glad ya got tethering working!
Alemaker

erikk said:
Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.
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This did the trick for me, thanks!
For those not fully aware of how to do this, connect your phone with ICS, go to network connections (control panel->network and sharing center->manage network connections), right click on the phone's connection (hover over them if you're not sure about which is which... mine said NDIS something or other), go to properties, click on TCP/IPv4, go to properties, and then give it the DNS addresses listed above.
Thanks!
-Taylor

Getting kicked off BlackBerry Connect

Ok, so i searched the threads and haven't been able to find a solid answer for this. I installed BlackBerry Connect and it's running great, except for the fact that every time i try to use a program that utilizes data (web browsers, chat programs, etc.), I get booted off the BlackBerry EDGE data and it starts connecting to T-Mobile GPRS, hence killing my BB mail connection. Anyone have this same issue? How have you resolved it? Thanks in advance for the
help!!
- As you can tell, i'm using t-mobile with the bb add on plan....

Ok, so i'm trying to still figure this problem out, hopefully im on the right track. Looking thru the BBConnect settings i noticed that the BB Connect software is set up to run thru a different APN and username and password than normal BB devices. Normally, you would have a carrier specific log-in as the APN, username and password. On BB Connect, it's locked in to:
APN: blackberry.net
username: rim
password: password
You can see this by selecting the BB icon-> options-> details...
If you're familiar with using a BB device on TMO, you already know your settings would have been:
APN: wap.voicestream.com
username : (your phone number)
password: (your account password)
Does anyone know how to change this? I'm sure that if this can be changed, then we can use the BB data instead of switiching to the GPRS data everytime we open a data app. Any feedback? I havent seen a solution to this as of yet

well my kaiser is set to have both conections Blackberry and WAP.CINGULARGPRS on all the time and thats the only way they will bothi work at the same time. use kaiser tweak to set them both always on.

usmcnyc said:
Ok, so i'm trying to still figure this problem out, hopefully im on the right track. Looking thru the BBConnect settings i noticed that the BB Connect software is set up to run thru a different APN and username and password than normal BB devices. Normally, you would have a carrier specific log-in as the APN, username and password. On BB Connect, it's locked in to:
APN: blackberry.net
username: rim
password: password
You can see this by selecting the BB icon-> options-> details...
If you're familiar with using a BB device on TMO, you already know your settings would have been:
APN: wap.voicestream.com
username : (your phone number)
password: (your account password)
Does anyone know how to change this? I'm sure that if this can be changed, then we can use the BB data instead of switiching to the GPRS data everytime we open a data app. Any feedback? I havent seen a solution to this as of yet
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There is no way to change this. BBConnect will reconnect after the other app using the other APN let's go. Although, on rare occasions, it doesn't reconnect and you have to Suspend and un-Suspend BBConnect manually to get it back again.

WonkotheSane said:
There is no way to change this. BBConnect will reconnect after the other app using the other APN let's go. Although, on rare occasions, it doesn't reconnect and you have to Suspend and un-Suspend BBConnect manually to get it back again.
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this is incorrect like I just said above! first set up your kaiser to use your t-mobile network :reboot: then go to the connection settings and advanced>select networks>make sure both of these are set to your t-mobile.
then install BB-connect
reboot let it do its thing and set everything up.
then use kaiser tweak to set both connections to always on and reboot
no click the data icon on the top of the screen and make sure both networks are connected. the kaiser has the nuts to use to different networks at the same time even 3 if youhave wifi on. this might be an issue of t-mobile only being a edge network at this point but I can assure you it works just fine on 3G with at-t

OK, so i tried setting it up using both the T-Mobile data and bberry data at the same time. I used Kaiser Tweak, but it still won't let me have both the T-mobile data and bberry data connected at the same time. I did notice that i was able to get wifi and bberry data at the same time though. I wonder what's wrong with this

Is there perhaps a way to tweak this in the registry? I tried using kaiser tweak to keep both the bberry and tmobile data going at the same time but regardless, it kicks one or the other off
Perhaps this could be something included in the next version of KaiserTweak?

@Austinsync....
On a lot of the Stock ROM's the operator (AT&T/T-Mob) restrict this function of having multiple data/server connections.
@ usmcnyc
Thanks for your service! Now a bit of advice. Switch ROM's, after installing Hardspl of course. Many of the "Cooked roms" will allow this feature to be used. It costs the provider more to have multiple data lines going so they limit it to one. I recomend using Sleuth V3.0. I can surf the web, while using internet sharing, & still get my Blackberry Messages! If I'm in 3G or H territory, add using the phone to that list.

Preventing tilt from getting proxy settings on sync

Everytime I connect Tilt to my computer for syncing, it syncs the IE proxy settings and puts them on my Tilt.
It's really annoying like hell, since after every sync I have to disable the proxy server for MediaNET.
Is there any way to prevent Tilt from getting proxy server settings from the PC?
To Overzealous Protectors of Thread Creation (OPTC) - I did a search, didn't find an answer. So sue me.

I must be stupid, cuz I can't for the life of me understand how the proxy settings can sync between your pc and Tilt.

Yep, weird huh?
I delete any proxy settings from my Tilt.
My PC has proxy setting for my work proxy server.. address, port, exclusions, all that stuff.
I connect Tilt.
It syncs.
I disconnect Tilt from PC, check my MediaNET settings - all my PC's proxy settings are in there.
That happens consistently with every ROM I tried (6.0, 6.1 doesn't matter).
If I delete proxy settings from IE - then Tilt will remain w/o a proxy.

Could this have anything to do with an Exchange Server email account your using for work?

Nope, my personal laptop doesn't have exchange set up on it and that's the laptop I sync Tilt with.
It must be somewhere in activesync/mobile device center where it syncs IE's proxy settings to device's proxy settings. How lame that is.

I have the same problem. Every time I sync to my work computer, my Tilt gets the corporate proxy settings.
This a royal pain because then my TomTom Navigator software can't get traffic updates. Then I am trying to change proxy settings WHILE I'm driving.
So if you see a car pulled over on the shoulder of the road, it might just be a Tilt user fixing his/her phone.

no you're not alone
I noticed I couldn't get data after I had synced with my office computer. After I saw the correlation I went into the connection settings and in the phone it was changed to use a proxy server, "GWS." Eventually I realized that it was grabbing my computer's pseudo-proxy server settings for the Google Web Server which my computer runs to use the Google Web Accelerator. I couldn't figure out how to stop this so I ended up uninstalling it. Luckily I don't need it unlike you who may need real proxy settings. Amazing how little quality control Microsoft does before they release a lot of their software.
I suppose judging by how few people are complaining about this proxy grabbing problem that it could be ROM-specific - I'm running Dutty's WM6.1 19588 build, latest version of Activesync.

It's not ROM specific, not unless all 5-7 ROMs that I've tried all have that problem.

My phone is still has the standard ROM that it came with. No mods what so ever.

i can confirm three things:
1. it's happening to me everytime too
2. it's a major pain in the ass!
3. it's a major pain in the ass!

This happens to me as well, however it is removing the proxy settings.... We use WPAD so the checkbox 'Automatically detect settings' is checked on the PC I sync my Kaiser with. I manually set the proxy on the Kaiser and every time I sync it with my PC it removes the setting for HTTP, it does however leave the SOCKS settings
Andy

It's not a kaiser specific problem... as it also happend to me with wm5 and wm2003se devices.
Which is a pain, but i just change the settings back after i sync

I have this problem too I have searched and searched and never found a solution to "fix" the problem. So here is what I do to reduce my effort to restore my settings after they get screwed up while sync'ing.
I have created a dummy network called office. I switch to this (settings ->Connection -> Select network) before connecting the phone to the PC. And switch it back after disconnecting them from the PC. I kept doing this for a while and admittedly this is pain to remember to do it without a miss each time. and if I did miss then you have to go and restore the proxy settings anyway. Then I found this small tool called "MObile Profiler" somewhere on freewareppc.com - it lets to create multiple profiles that store all your network settings with different names and with one keystroke restore teh settings from the stored profiles. I still have to remember to switch each time but if I do forget sometimes - I can simply restore all the settings from the saved profile in a single key stroke instead of having to go into settings and painfully typing in all the correct settings.
So not a solution to the problem but a way to save some labor in restoring the status back

Right click Activesync in task tray, Connection Settings. Change "This computer is connected to:" to WORK NETWORK. If its on Auto, or The Internet, it pulls the proxy from IE so it can get to "The Internet"!

yes but in that case, you also cannot access the internet from the phone while it is connected to the PC. One might question why you needs to have internet accessible from the phone when obvisously you are sitting next to a PC. But I need to do that - for example to have the Weather forecast and currency rates automatically updated (during activesync) in the Worldmate Pro software that I use. Or look at mail from my personal gmail account on the phone which I dont want to access from my office PC. For all that it is necessary to set the connection settings to Automatic!!!

I have an HTC polaris, same problem, using official wm6.1 updated HTC rom.
Happened on stock WM6.0 rom as well. Also happened on previous devices.
Every time I plug my phone in at work it inherits the corporate proxy settings.
Haven't found a fix for this, it's a big F'n pain in the ass though, because every time I unplug the phone I have to go in there and edit out that proxy box..every single day
What I really want to know is why more people haven't come forward saying that this is a problem...Why is it only affecting a small portion of people? I'm sure alot of peoples' work use proxy servers.

smjoshi said:
yes but in that case, you also cannot access the internet from the phone while it is connected to the PC. One might question why you needs to have internet accessible from the phone when obvisously you are sitting next to a PC. But I need to do that - for example to have the Weather forecast and currency rates automatically updated (during activesync) in the Worldmate Pro software that I use. Or look at mail from my personal gmail account on the phone which I dont want to access from my office PC. For all that it is necessary to set the connection settings to Automatic!!!
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Yup, exactly. Can't believe windows mobile is designed by Microsoft yet it has problems like this...really makes you wonder just how much work went into this stupid OS. The only thing I can think of to fix this is to make a program to modify the registry on your phone every time you sync it with the PC to remove this god damn reg setting that contains the proxy server from the MediaNET connection.

stickydonkey said:
Right click Activesync in task tray, Connection Settings. Change "This computer is connected to:" to WORK NETWORK. If its on Auto, or The Internet, it pulls the proxy from IE so it can get to "The Internet"!
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I have Excalibur (HTC-S620) and Kaiser. This trick fixes problem in Excalibur, but not in Kaiser :-(.

Found solutions. Just unckeck "Allow wireless connection on device .... " and also set "This computer is connected to" to "Work Network" in Active Sync -> File -> Connection settings on your desktop.

Hello, just wondering whether anyone has made any progress in solving this problem?
When i enter my work proxy manually into the WM device, after a while it disappears again, and my WM device no longer has any internet connectivity. Then when i add it again, after a while it's gone.
Have had this problem for years on numerous devices. Seems like there are no real fixes?

US 3G (AT&T) Connection (Exchange) Woes

I just got a Diamond, put in my AT&T SIM, and let it automatically set up the connection for me. It set me up using wap.cingular. This delivers very fast internet, BUT, it won't stay connected to my exchange server for more than a few minutes (I have it set to sync as items arrive, and leave activesync always open on the phone). I tried doing a hard reset, then manually entering my settings (isp.cingular, [email protected], etc.) which works for exchange (it stays connected) , but when i run speed tests I end up only getting about 200k. Any ideas?

anyone with the DIamond on AT&T

Is there anyone else out there with a Diamond on AT&T using an exchange server connection? If so, would you mind sharing your data connection settings?

I am using the stock setup for AT&T. All I had to do was turn off the proxy server and it works fine.

do you use an exchange server connection? When you say you use the default setup, do you use wap.cingular or isp.cingular?

You shouldn't see either if you let auto setup configure the exchange server for you. The auto setup will check proxy server for you in the process. You should then be on MEdia net
(modem tab), with wireless.cingular appearing in the dimed box for name of the proxy server.

found the setting, I changed it and will report how it works. Thanks

tzour said:
You shouldn't see either if you let auto setup configure the exchange server for you. The auto setup will uncheck proxy server for you in the process. You should then be on MEdia net
(modem tab), with wireless.cingular appearing in the unchecked/dimed box.
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the auto setup will turn the proxy for medianet on, since it's needed for it to send mms.

Connection trouble with BB Connect on HTC FUZE

I installed BB Connect .106 onto my HTC FUZE and actually got it working, new PIN, IP address, everything seemed fine.
BUT. . .
I found that I could not connect to the internet or get emails, even though the connection settings clearly showed me as being connected to Media Net.
Has anyone else had this problem? If so, is there a workable solution? FWIW, I do acually have a Blackberry plan (BIS) in use with my Bold, but I would like to have the option to switch between the devices as I wish.a

What, no one??? No one at all???

I am using about the same config as you, but all is working fine here. Keep in mind:
1. You have to set up a correct connection (APN) for all internet traffic but BBC (which uses its own non-configurable APN)
2. When you click on an internet link in a Blackberry message, your browser tries to use the BBC set APN to get the page.
3. When you browse to an URL in IE or Opera your browser tries to use the (self set) internet conection APN.
Maybe this helps you solve your problem.

Thanks for the reply. When I have more time to experiment I'll check it out.