TomTom volume control - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi all,
On my Kaiser, if I forget to unmute my phone before starting TomTom 6, I can't actually adjust my volume. The trick I used with my 8125 was to go to the Today screen and tap the volume control. On the Kaiser, touching the screen brings me back to tomtom, even if the today screen is displayed.
I remember finding a replacement exe for TomTom that unmuted the phone when it started and restored your former setting when you quit, but I can't find it even though I've searched for an hour. Help?
Thanks!
-n.

When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
But I guess it is indeed better if the volume gets adjusted automatically...

Stay0Puft said:
When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
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??? wats the folder button???

XtreMe_G said:
??? wats the folder button???
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It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.

Same problem for me with my Tilt. But, there's no folder icon on my keyboard to try your suggestion. The only way I've found is to exit TomTom, unmute the phone and start it again.
Anyone find a fix for use on the Tilt?

Stay0Puft said:
It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.
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ah, i see, on the tilts, that key toggles wifi on/off

Found it!
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/gps-talk/140969-tomtom-6-volume-override-loader.html
This loader unmutes your phone when you launch tomtom, and restores your mute when you close. (it's smart about restoring the previous state, so it won't mute if you weren't muted before launching tomtom)
Incidentally, I have some useful links in my del.icio.us bookmarks tagged with 'windowsmobile'
http://del.icio.us/osunick/windowsmobile
(disclaimer: I'm a product manager on del.icio.us)

Hitting the phone "Hang up" button works to get back to the home screen.. you can then tap the TomTom icon bottom right to bring it back.
Fully

Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.

Is my Tilt different than your Tilt?
osunick said:
Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.
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Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.

poisonz said:
Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.
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This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some b uilds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike

mikechannon said:
This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some builds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike
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My Tilt has the original AT&T ROM and I'm running TomTom 6.010.
The trick with the red phone key always minimizes TT6 to the lower task bar. But, I usually get dumped back into TT6 when I tap anywhere on the screen. Sometimes (rarely) it does let me unmute the speaker, but mostly not.
The Fn-arrow trick never works for me.
It's usually easier for me to quit TT6, turn on the speaker and then restart it. Of course, that means I have to wait for GPS to start up again.

mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar

XtreMe_G said:
mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar
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Yes! Just tried that trick and it works great... thanks!!!
Anyone know if its the older or newer builds that allow the volume change to work properly?

You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.

osunick said:
You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.
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I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.

gavink said:
I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.
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It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.

osunick said:
It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.
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Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin

Sadly no, I use either Voice Command or the PTT button to start TomTom.
gavink said:
Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin
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Great little app, thanks.
Is there any chance of a cab install version ?
So it can be simply reinstalled when I change roms (which I do a lot).
Many thanks for this little app. It saves me getting frustrated, and having to tap on the screen while driving.
Many Thanks
Chris D.

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hold comm to vibrate?

Anyone figured out how to map to a different button? This is the one feature i miss.
-mix
mixmaven said:
Anyone figured out how to map to a different button? This is the one feature i miss.
-mix
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Does this work?
That is what I tried, but there isn't a comm button on the Kaiser... It didn't work on any of the buttons I found. Does anyone know the reg key? we could probably change it to the ok/close button instead. I emailed kyphur to see if he knows...
-mix
mixmaven said:
That is what I tried, but there isn't a comm button on the Kaiser... It didn't work on any of the buttons I found. Does anyone know the reg key? we could probably change it to the ok/close button instead. I emailed kyphur to see if he knows...
-mix
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Use "Vibra Switch" then Do a seach its on XDA.
wpbear said:
Use "Vibra Switch" then Do a seach its on XDA.
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I tried this, and it's a good concept, except the AT&T ROM doesn't expose PTT as a possible button mapping, which means one of the existing start/PIE/messaging/ok/camera buttons would have to be sacrificed for a vibe toggle.
The superfluous PTT button is the obvious candidate for a vibrate toggle but sadly neither of the suggestions allow its use as such.
niralisse said:
I tried this, and it's a good concept, except the AT&T ROM doesn't expose PTT as a possible button mapping, which means one of the existing start/PIE/messaging/ok/camera buttons would have to be sacrificed for a vibe toggle.
The superfluous PTT button is the obvious candidate for a vibrate toggle but sadly neither of the suggestions allow its use as such.
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As the 8525 was eventually hacked for the PTT button to be useful you will have to be patient. This device is new so it takes time.
This works fine, load Vibra Switch, it will place 2 apps in the programs folder "Vibra Switch" and "Vibra Switch Delayed" (you can delete that one). Then in Settings>buttons> Select button 6, the top-left button currently used for single-press=Voice Speed Dial, press-and-hold=Recorder, re-assign the "press-n-hold button to be "Vibra Switch" and you are done.
I've been listing my tweak tries in amother thread, I can't get Bluetooth to redirect all sounds out to headset and I also can't get vjay lumos III to make the display go super bright. With no transreflective screen, this is now a very important tweak to me, I hope these can be figured out.
ahhhhh sweet. you guys are great!
-mix
RemE said:
This works fine, load Vibra Switch, it will place 2 apps in the programs folder "Vibra Switch" and "Vibra Switch Delayed" (you can delete that one). Then in Settings>buttons> Select button 6, the top-left button currently used for single-press=Voice Speed Dial, press-and-hold=Recorder, re-assign the "press-n-hold button to be "Vibra Switch" and you are done.
I've been listing my tweak tries in amother thread, I can't get Bluetooth to redirect all sounds out to headset and I also can't get vjay lumos III to make the display go super bright. With no transreflective screen, this is now a very important tweak to me, I hope these can be figured out.
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Use a little app called "BTaudio toggle" it works good for me!
Love you spiro! Searched and found BTaudio.exe, Life is good! With my 8525 I had to use Mortscripts, this is easier. Pressing my Jawbone headset button launches VoiceDialer and kills the re-direct, but that's no big deal. I like that I can now launch Voicedialer.
Last tweak remaining is a single button toggle to BRIGHTEN the screen!
Vibra Switch not working
I installed Vibra Switch in my new Tilt but is working as described. Anyone knows why?
i'm not sure about the commands to switch to vibe mode ( i use phone suite) but to expose the PTT button (short and long)
try adding a couple of new reg keys 40C6 and 40C7 in HKLM/software/microsoft/shell/keys. mimic the the keys and values on 40C5 and then soft reset.... it will then show up in the button control panel.
for reference, this is where i got it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1577293
paulsuerth said:
i'm not sure about the commands to switch to vibe mode ( i use phone suite) but to expose the PTT button (short and long)
try adding a couple of new reg keys 40C6 and 40C7 in HKLM/software/microsoft/shell/keys. mimic the the keys and values on 40C5 and then soft reset.... it will then show up in the button control panel.
for reference, this is where i got it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1577293
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Yes, I can confirm this works well. I've mapped a long press of my PTT button to Vibra Switch, so I just hold it down to toggle between ring and vibrate.
RemE said:
Last tweak remaining is a single button toggle to BRIGHTEN the screen!
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I created a shortcut to the backlight application in /Windows/Programs and then mapped it to a button. A single push of that button brings up the backlight app, from there you can use the right directional button to increase brightness in steps. Biggest problem for me was adjusting brightness outside on a sunny day where the screen can not be seen - this fixes that for me.

I need someone to develop a program for the Kaiser

Basically the program has to do the following:
1- I want the RED (front facing) "call end" button to work like the Treo 750. So pressing it while in the Today screen switches off the phone, pressing it again switches the phone on. Pressing it while in an application takes you to the today screen.
2- After doing that then we don't need the hidden phone on/off button so we can make it into a silent/mute button. So a long press on this button while the phone is either on or off will put the phone in silent mode, also very similar to the Treo's profile slider.
Anyone reading this is up to the challenge?
Anyone here has any other requests? Let's make a list and see who is up to the challenge.
aminhafez said:
Basically the program has to do the following:
1- I want the RED (front facing) "call end" button to work like the Treo 750. So pressing it while in the Today screen switches off the phone, pressing it again switches the phone on. Pressing it while in an application takes you to the today screen.
2- After doing that then we don't need the hidden phone on/off button so we can make it into a silent/mute button. So a long press on this button while the phone is either on or off will put the phone in silent mode, also very similar to the Treo's profile slider.
Anyone reading this is up to the challenge?
Anyone here has any other requests? Let's make a list and see who is up to the challenge.
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Not up to it, but why'd you want that. Switch phone/flight mode can be assigned to any hw button except call or call end, assign the same button(hold) for mute/unmute and there you are.
Call/end call buttons not being assignable is a hardware limitation, accordig to spb software house (pocket+).
tomasz said:
Not up to it, but why'd you want that. Switch phone/flight mode can be assigned to any hw button except call or call end, assign the same button(hold) for mute/unmute and there you are.
Call/end call buttons not being assignable is a hardware limitation, accordig to spb software house (pocket+).
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Ok so how can I assign the mute/unmute to a hardware button as I can't find it in the settings--->buttons' drop down menu?
I use spb pocket plus to assign buttons. It has the mute option standard in its list of button tasks. There might be freeware apps that let you do the same, but I don't know them (as I allready had a copy of spb pocketplus from my previous windows mobile device)
Edit: AE Button plus seems to be a freeware app that can do what you want...
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
And if "hold" is a suitable alternative to mute, you don't have to do anything... pressing in the volume button toggles the call on/off hold. At least on my Tilt.
tomasz said:
I use spb pocket plus to assign buttons. It has the mute option standard in its list of button tasks. There might be freeware apps that let you do the same, but I don't know them (as I allready had a copy of spb pocketplus from my previous windows mobile device)
Edit: AE Button plus seems to be a freeware app that can do what you want...
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
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AE Button worked well. Now I can mute/unmute at a touch of a button. I haven't tried its full potential yet.
Thanks for the great tip.
Still though I wouldn't mind a power feature like the Treo. I do not like that itty bitty recessed power botton on the right...
On a side note I'm going to try and see if there is a reg key on the Treo I can copy to the Kaiser where when you are in PIE and hold the action button it pops up the IE menu. That's nice. Not sure why its only on the Treo. I guess for it's one handed nature... What, I don't get to use my Kaiser with a one handed nature in mind?...
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you are in PIE and hold the action button it pops up the IE menu.
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Hmmm, that might be a useful map for AE button... for the side "ok" button, map a double-click to the left softkey, and press/hold to the right one (and single-click stock OK). Between that and the scroll wheel, that should make for some pretty easy one handed operation.
Just tested it.. works well, though the side OK button is a bit stiff/recessed to easily double-click with a thumb. May take some getting used to.
Hey guys,
I think i have found what your looking for. I also needed to toggle my Flight mode by a button because since most ROM versions of WM5 and WM6 Flight mode can`t be switched by tapping the signal meter at the top of the screen.
I installed this app and linked it to Button 6/Recording (Press & Hold) and now it switches Flight Mode On and Off. This is what i needed.
Look here: http://toosten.de/index.php?seite=sw&id=7
Have fun with it
One thing for now i noticed. When activating Flight Mode, it just turns off the Phone Signal and not BT when enabled. I am contacting the author of teh tool to see if some options can be added.

Vibrating dial pad buttons

On my old ETEN M600 (RIP) I had a phone pad app/skin that gave me big buttons and when a dial button was pressed the phone vibrated for a 1/4 of a second. It was great physical feedback to feel that little blip when a button was pressed and I believe it allowed me to dial numbers quicker. Anyone know of a app that enables this for the Tilt/Kaiser?
And yes I did a search for this before I posted a new thread.
Thanks
OT
How to set up one button press on/off with device and screen locked
Also for those that are interested. I have AE Button Plus, Ilauncher and DeviceLock by Matt Armstrong installed on my Tilt. The combination of these programs allow me to program the left softkey to turn off the Tilt. Matt's Devicelock auto locks the phone and prevents any other buttons to be pressed. When I want to use the phone I can press the left hard key that corresponds with the left soft key and that turns on the phone and unlocks it with one button push. This set up gives me one button off/on and all other keys and the screen is locked from accidental button pushes. Now I just wished that Devicelock would shut off the phone after 10 seconds if not unlocked. Right now my phone is in my pocket and if I accidentally push any button other then the left hard key my screen will turn on in a locked state and time out only after 1 minute if no other buttons are pressed. I would like it to turn back off faster.
BTW Thanks Matt
Not an app but it can be done with registry tweaking:
[It involves modifying registry keys so beware].
Navigate to HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\
In here there are a bunch of keys named Dtmf which represent all the keypad keys [0-9, #, *]
Rename Standard DWORD parameter Sound to Sound1
Create new String Parameter Sound
Assign value *vibrate* to this new parameter.
Save and exit, test it, then go back and do the same for all your keys, sorted.
A .cab for this?
Is there a .cab floating around for these reg settings?
It would be a great contribution to the community if someone could whip up a cab to make these reg changes ;-)
Wow, now that was usefull. I had installed some small prog to do the same, but it didn't work great. It wouldn't vibrate unless you pressed for a more than 250 ms. This mod vibrates immediately! Thanks!
someone should tell Kaisertweaks that that needs to go in
Here you go, working great on the TyTN II
That's what I'm talking about
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Here you go, working great on the TyTN II
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Thanks Gizmo!
I love this place. Where would WinMo be without xda-developers???
Any chance you could upload the .cab directly instead of zipped? For some reason it won't extract on my tilt and I can't get to a PC tonight.
Thanks again.
Sure thing, here you go
Installed and it is working great. This is really a great tweak!
aren't dtmf tones what are used for things like voicemail and such? like "press 7 to delete" it recognizes the sound? does this affect that at all?
I don't think this tweak has any effect on dtmf tones. I just tried my VM and everything worked as usual.
strange...i installed this on my tilt (htc rom) and when i touched a button there was no vibrate, until about 5 seconds later, it was delayed i guess, and after that i never felt another vibrate, even after a few resets.
bump.
would like to get this working.
Will this make it beep and vibrate or just vibrate? It would be cool it it could do both at once!. Also, maybe post cab to revert back to just the sound in case anyone wants to change it back?
Mikeeey,
Try holding the number down a little longer. If you just touch it, it will display the number but not vibrate.. I had the same trouble also.
I do appreciate the afford, but shouldnt it just work when it notices a keypress, not a long keypress.
You have to hold it for a little time. Thats how it works
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You have to hold it for a little time. Thats how it works
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That's how the cab file works. But when I did the registry edits as listed in the 2nd post, then it is an immediate vibrate. I used to use the cab file version. I removed that and went with the direct reg edits. Now it vibrates immediately.
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That's how the cab file works. But when I did the registry edits as listed in the 2nd post, then it is an immediate vibrate. I used to use the cab file version. I removed that and went with the direct reg edits. Now it vibrates immediately.
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Same here, works great after manual reg edit.
dalewinterstein said:
Mikeeey,
Try holding the number down a little longer. If you just touch it, it will display the number but not vibrate.. I had the same trouble also.
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thanks for pointing that out dalewinterstein, it works for me now.
i did the manual reg edit to try and make it respond faster but it doesnt, actually the keys lighting up after being pressed dont respond fast enough to my presses, does this happen for anyone else? i mean if i hold it just a bit longer it will light up and vibrate but im normally faster than that.

Power Button on Today Screen

Anyone know of a plugin or other program that places a power button right on the today screen or the bar at the top? I could not find anything on the site. I had something like this in a Palm version in a previous phone.
It would be nice to tap a power button as I finish tapping away at whatever application I am using at the time.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
A power button to shut down the phone? Or a power button to put the phone to sleep?
Here though no freeware ($2,99)
If you install Quick Menu (damn good app - try and find it on this site by searching a little bit) you'll also find the "reboot" link.
Dunno if it is interesting for ye but it really is a fundamental app I'd suggest everyone.
karch4 said:
Anyone know of a plugin or other program that places a power button right on the today screen or the bar at the top? I could not find anything on the site. I had something like this in a Palm version in a previous phone.
It would be nice to tap a power button as I finish tapping away at whatever application I am using at the time.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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Have you looked at psShutXP? It can be placed on the today screen (task area) and gives you the options to turn off the screen, fully shutdown, soft reset, and hard reset the device. Grab it here for the Kaiser.
Just run the .cab, run the .exe, and in the windows that pops up select "Today Icon" for it to display on the Today screen.
Spb Pocket Plus will also enable you to do this. Of course it also has a ton of other, very substantial features. IMO, well worth the money.
grizzley said:
A power button to shut down the phone? Or a power button to put the phone to sleep?
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Shut off device, not the radio.
hendrixus said:
Here though no freeware ($2,99)
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Very nice. Wish it was a bit smaller.
KMFM$ said:
Have you looked at psShutXP?
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Nice program. Will probably link it into my HTC Home for now. Thanks.
i use psShutXP too but it doesnt work so good for me, the shutdown button only turns off the display...

how do you exit with touchit ?

I loaded a touchit rom on my wing.. and it is so much better than default windows functionality.
One annonyance still remains though. When I am in a program (e.g. looking at contacts list), when I want to get out of the program, I have to reach all the way down to hit the 'end call' button (physical button with red telephone on it).
Other alternative is to click the close button on top right. But that can not be reached with a normal finger since it is so tiny.
So can there be a touch gesture which can make me exit quicker ? Or is there already one which I do not know about ?
hoolahoous said:
I loaded a touchit rom on my wing.. and it is so much better than default windows functionality.
One annonyance still remains though. When I am in a program (e.g. looking at contacts list), when I want to get out of the program, I have to reach all the way down to hit the 'end call' button (physical button with red telephone on it).
Other alternative is to click the close button on top right. But that can not be reached with a normal finger since it is so tiny.
So can there be a touch gesture which can make me exit quicker ? Or is there already one which I do not know about ?
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there are programs like zapit! - you can assinge to a hardware button.

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