The keys on my slide out keyboard are inconsistent in how hard you have to press and as a result I sometimes get repeat letters. Anybody know of a setting to adjust the repeat rate or just turn it off altogether? I found a registry entry HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\RepeatRate but have not tried adjusting it.
Have you tried the options in Settings>Personal>Buttons>Up/Down Control?
I've used them for the repeat rate and they work for me.
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Dave
Hey that works. I thought those settings were just for the Dpad.
Anyone else notice that the keys don't have the same feel? The "h" key has almost no feedback and the space bar is really hard to press.
ppauer said:
Hey that works. I thought those settings were just for the Dpad.
Anyone else notice that the keys don't have the same feel? The "h" key has almost no feedback and the space bar is really hard to press.
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My F and A button are sometimes a bit hard to handle.
My keys are fine. The Spacebar is wierd though. The left part of it (under the V key) has almost no feedback. The middle side has some kind of double feedback. Only the right part of it (under the B key) is fine.
NetSkipper said:
My keys are fine. The Spacebar is wierd though. The left part of it (under the V key) has almost no feedback. The middle side has some kind of double feedback. Only the right part of it (under the B key) is fine.
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I spotted virtually the same thing with my space bar too.
Also, the space bar is just a tad too far left for me, nearly catch the '.' key all the time.
DaveShaw said:
Have you tried the options in Settings>Personal>Buttons>Up/Down Control?
I've used them for the repeat rate and they work for me.
Thanks,
Dave
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THANKS!
This was annoying me for ages! Often the simplest solutions that we overlook!
the next thing thta you have to do is wear in the keys. i remember when i got the deivce was that keys were pretty hard to press. once i wore them in it does really fast
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I noticed on the AT&T Tilt, if you press down hard on the space bar it appears to have a second level - ie., press lightly, it clicks once and types a space. Press herder and it clicks down further to a second position. I noticed this doesn't happen with any of the other keys. Is this just a flaw in the design or can this message to the os be remapped to add more functionality to the phone? When you press hard on the space bar, if it registers as two extrmely quick space bar presses (like a double-click) then maybe someone can code something to have that act as an additional button? Or in reality have I just lost my mind?
KruseLudsMobile said:
I noticed on the AT&T Tilt, if you press down hard on the space bar it appears to have a second level - ie., press lightly, it clicks once and types a space. Press herder and it clicks down further to a second position. I noticed this doesn't happen with any of the other keys. Is this just a flaw in the design or can this message to the os be remapped to add more functionality to the phone? When you press hard on the space bar, if it registers as two extrmely quick space bar presses (like a double-click) then maybe someone can code something to have that act as an additional button? Or in reality have I just lost my mind?
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Are you talking about repitition? If so, then all keys function that way. If you press and hold any keys, it will repeat the function.
It's not a two stage button (like the camera button... 1st click is focus, 2nd takes the pic). It's just that it's a wide button, so there are two contacts below it to cover the entire area. You must be pressing it near the center of the bar, and making both contacts. If you press towards the left or right, you will only activate one of the buttons.
My bet would be that there is a 4x10 grid of contacts and the space bar just happens to cover two columns. Probably no secret functionality here... simplest explanation is probably the right one.
If you press the space bar while holding the power button and click your heels together, it will take you home to Kansas.
I am in Kansas
It worked!
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It worked!
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took me to newark
Jeez thanks alot guys
woe woe wats rong with newark?
I hated the entire area. Maybe Basic Training at Ft Dix (1988) put a sour taste in my mouth.
Now this is driving me mental...pressing on the up, down or left sides of the scroll wheel does exactly what it says on the tin...moves the cursor/page etc up, down or left. But when it comes to moving right, the area to press seems to be so tiny that only the most precise press will actually move the cursor, anything else will close whatever app is open (red phone key or backspace). it is infuriating when trying to select a suggested word to the right only to find that you close the message!
Not sure if there is a way to configure this but has anyone got this problem or found a solution?
For me it's the "red button" wich "disapear"... just like that... when I push on it, it make the right direction (just what you want lol)
A soft reset and it become normal...
Yodajr said:
For me it's the "red button" wich "disapear"... just like that... when I push on it, it make the right direction (just what you want lol)
A soft reset and it become normal...
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Same problem here, when I first seen it I thought it was a hardware fault
Quick soft reset fixes it for me, bloody annoying bug but handy if you need the right key at that particular time
my buttons ae fine, they arent so comfortable but work..
often when I'm typing an sms/mail message i accidentally press the left hardware key(as it is sunk in the querty keyboard ). this will send the message i didn't finished yet.
is there a way to disable this keys when i have the keyboard slided out?
p-de-geus said:
often when I'm typing an sms/mail message i accidentally press the left hardware key(as it is sunk in the querty keyboard ). this will send the message i didn't finished yet.
is there a way to disable this keys when i have the keyboard slided out?
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good question. I have that problem too.
well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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bronx said:
well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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Got to the same pratical conclusion.
I'd be happy if someone got a workaround about this .
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well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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It true that when tilted that they are press less easy, still sometimes i press those keys. i almost always tilt the screen whem typing with hw keys.
Still it would be nice if there is an sollution for this.
AE Button Plus
I use AE Button Plus with no action assigned to a single press of the hardware soft keys (in other words, it ignores a single press of those keys). It affects the buttons in both portrait and landscape modes. If I need to access the single-press soft key function then I just need to press on the screen. I also have the single-press function mapped to a double-press of the hardware soft keys as an alternative.
lol....
And I was thinking I was the only one with that problem...
And got the same soluttion than you guys... tiliting the screens is not so easy to press those buttons
just wanted to see what everyone thinks about the button layout.
should we keep it?
should we change it?
how can we change the button layout ourselfs?
is there any progress on making an application to allow us to change our button layout?
what does everyone think?
im used to the button layout now but i would love to customize it to my liking.
There needs to be a third option. "Allow for customization"
Everyone perceives their needs differently.
EDIT: Should also mention that I'm fine with it the way it is, but the way your post is worded makes the third option necessary.
Leave it,
Its perfect.
leave it. Only add button combination for running apps.. If everyone's is different, you will have a hard time giving directions based on buttons.
i like it the way it is as well. the only thing nicer would be more buttons; if we were able to get the red button to "go home, then sleep" it would allow long press camera to be used to display running applications.
a program to modify the keymap was in the works. don't know what happened to it.
i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
cp0020 said:
i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
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can't change dpad function - need it for many games. for those who don't play games, would be great. once again, individualizable keymap seems best.
I personally like it.
We used to have an older configuration but this current one seems very usable making efficient use of the keys we have.
I like it as it is.
myn said:
I personally like it.
We used to have an older configuration but this current one seems very usable making efficient use of the keys we have.
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If you mean the original, menu on the volume slider, that was THE worst. Last year I quit Android as soon as I started because I hated using the volume slider all the time.
slow88lx said:
If you mean the original, menu on the volume slider, that was THE worst. Last year I quit Android as soon as I started because I hated using the volume slider all the time.
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personally i was in love with the old layout
i loved how holding the home button showed all running apps and made switching between them a breeze
if we could somehow incorporate the old layout
id be all for it!
even though i'm accustomed to the current one
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i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
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it would be cool to have that button layout and make the center d-pad to swith back to the current button layout so we can use the d-pad for games and whatnot.
cp0020 said:
it would be cool to have that button layout and make the center d-pad to swith back to the current button layout so we can use the d-pad for games and whatnot.
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That just seems overly complicated.
When I first switched to Android, I hated the layout, but it's grown on my now. Only thing I wish is for a spare button that could be made into a search button so I could have working quick compose in chomp sms.
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That just seems overly complicated.
When I first switched to Android, I hated the layout, but it's grown on my now. Only thing I wish is for a spare button that could be made into a search button so I could have working quick compose in chomp sms.
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if we can put android on our phones i think we can do that
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if we can put android on our phones i think we can do that
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I was saying more from a user standpoint than a development standpoint.
For those that would like some onscreen softkeys that you can even see in the dark.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
I have been using this little utility on my Android HD2 for a while now and figured I would give it a shot on my Gtab. Works Great! Merry Christmas to All!
[UPDATE Dec 30th 2010]
This great utility is now on the Android Market. Install it from there and you will get prompts for updates when they are released. I had an update yesterday that added a couple of skins and a few new features. It also has a new settings interface and it still works great on the G-Tab!
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Work great.
thanks.
Awesome find!
great find..... I wish we could now disable the buttons on the side that are so annoying when you hit them accidentaly
insight3fl said:
great find..... I wish we could not disable the buttons on the side that are so annoying when you hit them accidentaly
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Was thinking of trying to find a way to disable the right side hardware buttons myself. They are fine until you are trying to reposition the tablet and accidentally press one. Or lose your grip and are grasping for purchase and press one then. Very annoying for sure.
Great find. Whose up for doing a YouTube review?
Scott
cscotty said:
Great find. Whose up for doing a YouTube review?
Scott
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Would do one myself but have no dock or easel at this time that would provide the necessary stability for video purposes.
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Neat app I like it. I put 4 very tiny adhesive dots on the side of the case so I know where everything is at night. This app works too though
TeamSpeed said:
Neat app I like it. I put 4 very tiny adhesive dots on the side of the case so I know where everything is at night. This app works too though
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Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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Did a quick market search for button savior and got nadda. What's It called there?
Allenfx said:
Did a quick market search for button savior and got nadda. What's It called there?
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It shows up in market for me. Have you done the market fix (clear cache, etc.)? It's exactly as spelled above.
Jim
hitekredneck said:
Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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I have tried fluorescent reinforcement stickers, but you can not see them that well in total darkness. As far as disabling the keys you have to cover them with something thick like leather or many layers of paper. I tried sticky notes.... several layers of them but they still pick up your touch
this app is a lifesavor! Streaming vids crash alot due to that damn cooliris.com gallery association. Button Savior is the only escape when gallery decides FC.
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I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
EDIT AGAIN:
DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN:
Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
reynwrap582 said:
I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
EDIT AGAIN:
DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN:
Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
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How easy is it to revert back to stock button action? Or do you turn this function ON each time you boot and then run this program?
At each bootup there's a notification item that you can select to restore to your defaults, which you can clear until the next restart, in case something gets borked.
I have 4 very small black metal "nail covers" that I superglued directly on the side next to each soft button. Now I just feel the button with my index finger and use the side of my thumb to press the screen next to it, works great in the dark, better than the adhesive pads I had. Very small and black and low profile...
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At each bootup there's a notification item that you can select to restore to your defaults, which you can clear until the next restart, in case something gets borked.
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I am running tnt lite 3.1.4 and just downloaded button remapper. It loaded, but when I went to run it it FC and never let me set any buttons. Now each time I run it it FC.
What rom are you on?
Thanks
EDIT:Working fine for me now. Don't use galaxy tab version. Download standard.
reynwrap582 said:
I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
EDIT AGAIN:
DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN:
Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
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is button remapper free?
I'm on Vegan B3.
ButtonRemapper is US$1.03