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HELP!!! The battery doesn't recharge!!!

Sorry for my english.
My f00kin problem is that I can't recharge my kaiser anymore!!!
I plug the external charger and the orange led is on for a minute or 2, then it turns off.
Attached to the pc, no light
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP PLZ!!!
ot: I'm using Dutty's7b and, till yesterday, everything was working good. I've also hard resetted the device, but the problem still here...

leopardone said:
Sorry for my english.
My f00kin problem is that I can't recharge my kaiser anymore!!!
I plug the external charger and the orange led is on for a minute or 2, then it turns off.
Attached to the pc, no light
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP PLZ!!!
ot: I'm using Dutty's7b and, till yesterday, everything was working good. I've also hard resetted the device, but the problem still here...
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Can you use someone else's battery to try. Your battery may have just died, some do from time to time.

mmm
I'm not sure, but I don't think it's a battery death problem.
When I turn off it, I CAN CHARGE IT with pc.
I've noticed that if it's turned on, no charge.
If it's turned off, from 15% is now 36% of charge.
WHY???

So if you leave the phone turned off and connected to the PC for a few hours does the battery recharge to 100% and then the orange light change to green? If you then turn the phone on does the light still go out after a couple of minutes? The current draw will be lower when the battery is 100% charged (as it will be when charging while the phone is off). Some PC's can be flakey with high current draw devices on the USB port.
In the situation you described when the light goes off, will the phone still remain connected via Active Sync (or Vista equivalent)? I'm trying to weed out whether the USB connection has anything to do with it. As for those mains chargers, my one (which came with the PPC) worked about 4 times and the first time I had to recharge the PPC from a totally flat battery it died about 3 seconds into the charge. There was a loud click from the charger and it's light extinguished so I dont have much faith in the mark 2 chargers supplied to UK customers. I'm currently waiting on a different warranty replacement - hopefully like the original type with interchangable 'head' to suit different countries.

now it's not fully recharged, but I've just now turned on the phone and the % is growing.
I've always recharged my phone via pc because I left it connected to my pc at work every day during the working day.
only sometime I recharge it via wall plug at home.
dunno why but from yesterday the wall plug works 2 (or less) minutes and the pc is not anymore able to charge the phone.
now, with all the phone switched off (so, also activesync connection closed), the pc can recharge it.
ARGH

I have also the same problem since yesterday

kaher said:
I have also the same problem since yesterday
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REALLY???
are you using the same rom?

kaher said:
I have also the same problem since yesterday
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Did you do anything with the PPC before the problem occurred or was it just out of the blue?
I'd also like to know from leopardone how it goes with regards to answering my questions once the battery is fully charged (if it gets that far).

leopardone said:
Sorry for my english.
My f00kin problem is that I can't recharge my kaiser anymore!!!
I plug the external charger and the orange led is on for a minute or 2, then it turns off.
Attached to the pc, no light
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP PLZ!!!
ot: I'm using Dutty's7b and, till yesterday, everything was working good. I've also hard resetted the device, but the problem still here...
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Take batt. 10m out, i had this problem long time ago.
Do you use a other AC loader.... use only the org. AC loader !!!!
Install batt. status and take a look... you must wait a few min. before the batt is charged.

Flying Kiwi said:
Did you do anything with the PPC before the problem occurred or was it just out of the blue?
I'd also like to know from leopardone how it goes with regards to answering my questions once the battery is fully charged (if it gets that far).
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I didn't anything (and, also, in the doubt, I've hard resetted everything on order to have a clean system)
The phone is still in charge.
I'll let you know as soon as possible

yes the same rom.
the big problem now is that I also can not make connection with my pc to install an original rom in case it got to be returned for repair.

SatScan said:
Take batt. 10m out, i had this problem long time ago.
Do you use a other AC loader.... use only the org. AC loader !!!!
Install batt. status and take a look... you must wait a few min. before the batt is charged.
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let me try!!!
mmm for the ac adaptor I use 2 different: the old one for my old p3600 and the "original" one.

kaher said:
yes the same rom.
the big problem now is that I also can not make connection with my pc to install an original rom in case it got to be returned for repair.
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turn it off and charge it.
in this way I can charge it.
btw, now I'm trying the "method" of taking out the battery for some minutes...

Flying Kiwi said:
I'd also like to know from leopardone how it goes with regards to answering my questions once the battery is fully charged (if it gets that far).
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after 15 min without battery, I've turned on the pda and I'm trying to charge it.
it is WORKING!!!
the % is growing under my eyes!!!
THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I hope will not happens anymore...
btw: the problem, in conclusion, belongs to the hardware, and not to the rom, isn't it?

leopardone said:
after 15 min without battery, I've turned on the pda and I'm trying to charge it.
it is WORKING!!!
the % is growing under my eyes!!!
THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I hope will not happens anymore...
btw: the problem, in conclusion, belongs to the hardware, and not to the rom, isn't it?
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glad that yours is working again ,mine is not working yet , I treid everything mentioned above but nothing work

kaher said:
glad that yours is working again ,mine is not working yet , I treid everything mentioned above but nothing work
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argh!
have you also hard resetted the device?

Hey I have the same problem... I am on the original HTC Rom.
All of a sudden today the batt is not charging on the wall socket or the PC USB cable.
There is no light whatsoever, The active sync is also not connecting.
I have hard resetted even then the same problem, I am guessing it is a hardware & not a software problem coz I didnt install any new prog/app since last time I charged.
Now I have removed the Batt, will reattach and check in about 15 mins lets hope it works...
Shall update soon.

rohanmaini said:
Hey I have the same problem... I am on the original HTC Rom.
All of a sudden today the batt is not charging on the wall socket or the PC USB cable.
There is no light whatsoever, The active sync is also not connecting.
I have hard resetted even then the same problem, I am guessing it is a hardware & not a software problem coz I didnt install any new prog/app since last time I charged.
Now I have removed the Batt, will reattach and check in about 15 mins lets hope it works...
Shall update soon.
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Nope, Removing the battery and waited for 30 mins reconnected the batt still not working.
Nor is my kaiser charging while the phone is switched off.
The problem is notof the USB port coz the USB headphones are working fine..

I got a battery problem as well. Problem started 3 days ago (20/12-07)
My problem is that the battery drains to fast.. disconnected it around 02:00 when I was of to bed, (battery 100%) but when I woke up again around 09:00 the phone was dead. Thats only 7 hours.. and in standby mode!
I'm on the original HTC UK ROM and I have only installd a couple programs like the Kaiser Tweak, Handysafe, Wififofum, Sprite backup, Citrix client, puTTY, PocketRAR, Total Commander, TCPMP, Flash player, PK NewWarningColorBatteryClean3G, HTC GPRSmonitor.
So I'm guessing one of these programs drains the battery even when the phone in on sleep.... the ones I installed since 20/12-07 is PocketRAR, TCPMP, Flash player, PK NewWarningColorBatteryClean3G.
Has anyone had battery problems after installing these..
Any help is appreciated.

it is a hardware problem
when I hold the cable of the charger and push it against the usb port it does charge. when I stop pushing it stops charging.

Noob question here

Right ive had my Diamond since Sat, havent had much of a chance to play with it because the battery died on me yesterday...didnt really charge it once i got...just turned it on and let it drain. Plus i wasnt at home last night, gf wanted to see me so ended up going round hers which meant i couldnt use the Diamond as i couldnt charge it etc.
Anyways ive come home earlier this evening and put it on charge....got home about 6pm and charging it via my laptop...now one thing that concerns me is that its still charging even though the battery meter is full. Is that normal or do i have a dodgy battery on my hands??. I was under the impression that once its fully charged, the white light around the middle buttons stays solid but on mine it keeps flashing around...anyone help??
My other problem is and please excuse me as this is my first WM device...im trying to install a few cab files and also schaps advanced config as well. Now coming from a symbian phone, nokia n95 8gb to be exact...i dont know how i go about installing these cab files or schaps advanced config onto my phone. I have my connected to my laptop and its synched with windows mobile device centre...cant install activesynch as its not compatible with Vista...which is what im running on my laptop.
So can anyoen help a WM noob here?? and explain to me how i go about installing those cab files etc and also whether my battery is dodgy or not??.
Thanks in advance for any help

concerning the .cab-files: just copy them onto the phone and run them from the file explorer. Just as you would run a program on a winbox.

chribruu said:
concerning the .cab-files: just copy them onto the phone and run them from the file explorer. Just as you would run a program on a winbox.
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Ahhh ok i havent tried that...is there anywhere in particular i should copy them to??. I guess internal storage would be the best place??. Once ive done that...is it ok to delete the zip files?? as they come in a zip format.

it dont matter where on the phone they are put
and it dont matter if zip's they org came in are deleted

Thanks Rudegar,
I put them in the phone like the previous poster said and they are now installed.
Thanks alot guys, i feel embarrassed that i didnt know this
Any ideas as to the battery charging question??

The battery could appear full, but in reality still need some juice. It shouldn't take too long from that moment till the light appears solid though... I've noticed that charging using the AC charger goed must faster than through the USB port.

205_lacoste said:
The battery could appear full, but in reality still need some juice. It shouldn't take too long from that moment till the light appears solid though... I've noticed that charging using the AC charger goed must faster than through the USB port.
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Ok thanks mate, i havent used the AC Charger as im not 100% sure if im keeping the phone lol....by tonight ill know whether to keep it or send it back
EDIT: haha funny that, soon as i pressed reply on this thread the light went solid.
Again thanks guys for helping me out

Spawn12 said:
Ok thanks mate, i havent used the AC Charger as im not 100% sure if im keeping the phone lol....by tonight ill know whether to keep it or send it back
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So I'm guessing you are using one of your own USB cables? Could it be that you are using a mini-USB v1 plug (without audio, so less connections)? Not from experience, but I read that charging using one of those cables goes way slower. This could explain why it takes longer between appearing 'full' and actually being full.

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So I'm guessing you are using one of your own USB cables? Could it be that you are using a mini-USB v1 plug (without audio, so less connections)? Not from experience, but I read that charging using one of those cables goes way slower. This could explain why it takes longer between appearing 'full' and actually being full.
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Nope im using the supplied cable that came with the phone.
Im going to let the battery drain again then try with the AC Adaptor and see how long it takes to charge from there...if its taking a few hrs like it did with my laptop then ill know i have a dodgy battery.

AC goes way faster than laptop

Generally a USB port only tends to supply 100mA without a request, that is if the device (in this case your diamond) requests more current then you can get up to 500mA i think (from a single USB controller...usually controlling 4 ports).
Looking at my Hermes charger the output is rated as 1A at 5V which is a fair bit higher than the USB port could ever deliver.
Charging via USB will always be slower than with an AC adapter

sorry im a ****, re-read, and you already have wmdc
Also, most popular Payware programs come with exe installers, that install to wmdc, then when you sync, it copies the CAB over, installs and deletes the CAB. So saves space on the storage, but no installing after a hard reset while on the go, which is why everything i need is on my storage card
Rory

Spawn12 said:
Ok thanks mate, i havent used the AC Charger as im not 100% sure if im keeping the phone lol....by tonight ill know whether to keep it or send it back
EDIT: haha funny that, soon as i pressed reply on this thread the light went solid.
Again thanks guys for helping me out
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Sounds like you are on the same wavelength as me .. never been convined by the diamond purely because it seems like a fashion phone but so far am impressed. Was going to get a X7510 but now might stick as Citrix ICA looks small but OK on VGA of Diamond.
Spawn12 let me know what u decide 2 do (apologies typinis difficult just got back from boozer...)

firedup said:
Sounds like you are on the same wavelength as me .. never been convined by the diamond purely because it seems like a fashion phone but so far am impressed. Was going to get a X7510 but now might stick as Citrix ICA looks small but OK on VGA of Diamond.
Spawn12 let me know what u decide 2 do (apologies typinis difficult just got back from boozer...)
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PS your batt is not ****ed, just the s/w

Again thanks guys, i just realised that charging via usb is always going to be slow ie my ipod touch takes forever to charge fully but using the ac adaptor plug...it will charge fully in less than an hr.
Anyways that problem has been solved so thanks again guys for clearing that up for me.
The problem i had with installing the cab files has been rectified...put them on my storage and then installed them via file explorer and they work perfectly. Resco explorer installed like symbian programs install on symbian phones...installation starts in windows but you complete the install on the phone.

Diamond Charging Time

hello,
I´ve experienced a long-time charging with my diamond device: this is my 3rd charged and it started at 14.30 and it´s more than 22.10 hours and still one little-gap to be fully charged. Is this normal??? It´s been charged with the 3G (HSDPA) on, and using vodafone real mail connected (HSDPA connection opened to receive emails), but I remember my treo 750v it only took 2 hours or 3 as maximum to be fully charged. WHat do you think about this???
thanks

jumanji1212 said:
hello,
I´ve experienced a long-time charging with my diamond device: this is my 3rd charged and it started at 14.30 and it´s more than 22.10 hours and still one little-gap to be fully charged. Is this normal??? It´s been charged with the 3G (HSDPA) on, and using vodafone real mail connected (HSDPA connection opened to receive emails), but I remember my treo 750v it only took 2 hours or 3 as maximum to be fully charged. WHat do you think about this???
thanks
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Perhaps, your charger battery has a problem, like for exemple, it does not deliver enough power. Did you try with another one or charge it with your PC ?

Fabliv said:
Perhaps, your charger battery has a problem, like for exemple, it does not deliver enough power. Did you try with another one or charge it with your PC ?
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not yet, but i´m charge it through the usb cable, tell u tomorrow
thanks

jumanji1212 said:
not yet, but i´m charge it through the usb cable, tell u tomorrow
thanks
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The USB cable does probably NOT provide quite enough energy to compensate for the connections you've switched on. If you have your WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS (one or combination) on, it even drains the battery quicker.
Let's say your phone requires 100mAh to run using the open connections and the USB delivers between 80-120mAh. Of course this is an example with random numbers... just to explain what I mean.
So either the power consumption of your phone is higher than the power the USB can give: this leaves the phone discharging slowly. Or the phone is being charged, but very slowly.
Conclusion: Better use the 230V charger!

205_lacoste said:
The USB cable does probably NOT provide quite enough energy to compensate for the connections you've switched on. If you have your WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS (one or combination) on, it even drains the battery quicker.
Let's say your phone requires 100mAh to run using the open connections and the USB delivers between 80-120mAh. Of course this is an example with random numbers... just to explain what I mean.
So either the power consumption of your phone is higher than the power the USB can give: this leaves the phone discharging slowly. Or the phone is being charged, but very slowly.
Conclusion: Better use the 230V charger!
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it´s still charging, that´s not normal don´t you think?¿?¿

jumanji1212 said:
it´s still charging, that´s not normal don´t you think?¿?¿
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As I explained... USB doesn't give much juice. If the device uses more energy than the USB can give (or almost the same) charging takes very long.
Simply use the 230V charger, and see how fast that goes! I guarantee that works.

205_lacoste said:
As I explained... USB doesn't give much juice. If the device uses more energy than the USB can give (or almost the same) charging takes very long.
Simply use the 230V charger, and see how fast that goes! I guarantee that works.
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i´m using the 230V charger from 14.30 and it´s 23.16, and still got one little gap to be fully charged
it´s amazing!!!

Just as a sidenote, usb gives 500mAh.

jumanji1212 said:
i´m using the 230V charger from 14.30 and it´s 23.16, and still got one little gap to be fully charged
it´s amazing!!!
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Have you got a battery charger 5V 1A mini USB other than the one that came with the Diamond ?

Fabliv said:
Have you got a battery charger 5V 1A mini USB other than the one that came with the Diamond ?
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i´ve a qtek 9000 charger, does this work with Diamond???

jumanji1212 said:
i´ve a qtek 9000 charger, does this work with Diamond???
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Yes of course, I've also a Qtek 9000 and the charger is the same.

Fabliv said:
Yes of course, I've also a Qtek 9000 and the charger is the same.
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can´t find the qtek 9000 charger right now but found a charger that outputs DC5V 400mA.
1.-is this better than the original diamond´s charger?¿?¿?
2.-do you think it takes so long bc of the HSDPA connection on for the mail?¿?¿?
if any doubt of faulty unit I have till Wednesday to have my money back or change for another one so any kind of test bf that day would be great
thanks for all your help guys

jumanji1212 said:
can´t find the qtek 9000 charger right now but found a charger that outputs DC5V 400mA.
1.-is this better than the original diamond´s charger?¿?¿?
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No, the original Diamond charger outpout is DC5V 1A. Better than that one.
jumanji1212 said:
2.-do you think it takes so long bc of the HSDPA connection on for the mail?¿?¿?
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so long bc ? What you mean ?
jumanji1212 said:
if any doubt of faulty unit I have till Wednesday to have my money back or change for another one so any kind of test bf that day would be great
Try to find the Qtek 9000 charger for testing and you'll take a decision.
thanks for all your help guys
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You welcome !
Por favor !

Fabliv said:
so long bc ? What you mean ?
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This charging time is the first one that i´ve charged the diamond while the real mail of vodafone (HSDPA connection was always on to get push mail) so i suppose this can affect at charging velocity don´t you think?¿?
but instead of that, it´s really amazing how slow was the charging bc i´ve also a treo 750v and never remember to be so slow even with the push mail on...

jumanji1212 said:
This charging time is the first one that i´ve charged the diamond while the real mail of vodafone (HSDPA connection was always on to get push mail) so i suppose this can affect at charging velocity don´t you think?¿?
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So you think that the first charge was not done correctly cause of the push-mail and his power need, right ?
Usualy, I leave my device off 12h during the first charge.
jumanji1212 said:
but instead of that, it´s really amazing how slow was the charging bc i´ve also a treo 750v and never remember to be so slow even with the push mail on...
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I understand, but I think your charger is probably down. You have to test a new charger before compare.

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So you think that the first charge was not done correctly cause of the push-mail and his power need, right ?
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this charging is my 3rd time, the 1st one was long but not this long, i´m going to look for the qtek charger tomorrow morning and try it. talk 2 u tomorrow
bonne nuit

hello,i am going to change my diamond this afternoon.at first it comes with some battery, what do u recommend me?make a full charge bf any kind of use or use till the battery run out of power?

i have the same problem. Full charging takes more than 10 hours, no matter if i use USB or the charging device...if i turn the phone completely off, it doesn´t charge at all.

Why do you need a HSDPA Connection (Mails), when you charge via USB? Not possible to use ActiveSync for Internetaccess?

jumanji1212 said:
hello,i am going to change my diamond this afternoon.at first it comes with some battery, what do u recommend me?make a full charge bf any kind of use or use till the battery run out of power?
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You can use till the battery run out of power and let the device off 12h during the first charge.

Vario is *suddenly* dead! I didn't upgrade anything.

Hi,
Suddenly my Vario died. I was not upgrading anything at all. I was just using it or maybe I was charging it during this time. Now I can't turn it on and when I connect the USB cable with power nothing happens. Not even the charging LED lights up.
Any ideas?

Did your battery completely die? Where you installing/and or modifying anything on the device? We needs some more info brother!

ashasaur said:
Did your battery completely die? Where you installing/and or modifying anything on the device? We needs some more info brother!
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Battery: maybe it did died, as I have not been using the phone for a while (couple of months).
No, I didn't do even any software installation. Just normal usage. I don't remember if I was charging it while it died or not.

Well, sounds to me like your battery may just be dead, not regular dead mind you, but drained. Try this first, connect your Wizard to either the original wall charger that came with it, and let it charge for a while, or find another miniUSB charger(like from another phone or bluetooth headset or the like) with AT LEAST 1A of OUTPUT. Anything less will not be able to charge the battery. Try that first, then let me know what happens!

ashasaur said:
Well, sounds to me like your battery may just be dead, not regular dead mind you, but drained. Try this first, connect your Wizard to either the original wall charger that came with it, and let it charge for a while, or find another miniUSB charger(like from another phone or bluetooth headset or the like) with AT LEAST 1A of OUTPUT. Anything less will not be able to charge the battery. Try that first, then let me know what happens!
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Aaaaaaaaa! Coooool! Yahooooo! It works! I have found a strange charger without any indication of the power it supplies and it worked. You saved my phone. Thank you very much.
Slawa Pidgorny
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spidgorny said:
Hi,
Suddenly my Vario died. I was not upgrading anything at all. I was just using it or maybe I was charging it during this time. Now I can't turn it on and when I connect the USB cable with power nothing happens. Not even the charging LED lights up.
Any ideas?
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I'm glad you found a solution.
My first inclination was to respond, "Yeah, and my wife says she has no idea how she got syphilis, either," but comedy doesn't fix broken phones...

BUT MAKES LAUGH SOMETIMEs
Hope you can get a new charger to get elecroshocks everytime to your wizard...
And Myrddin hope you can get some condoms

[Q] Turning off HD7 when charging ?

Hello!
I'm a 50% Happy user with the HD7, i've been following and reading all the issues with the phone (don't get me started on the mms config!...), but anyway, just a simple question.
I'm trying to fully charge the HD7, but i don't want it to be powered on while charging, it just keeps awaking from the dead!
How can i circumvent this ?

Eckon said:
Hello!
I'm a 50% Happy user with the HD7, i've been following and reading all the issues with the phone (don't get me started on the mms config!...), but anyway, just a simple question.
I'm trying to fully charge the HD7, but i don't want it to be powered on while charging, it just keeps awaking from the dead!
How can i circumvent this ?
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Far as I know the HD& can only be charged while turned on. At first I thought I had a defect unit, but as I read on the net and in reviews that it only charges while being on.
Hope this helps
Eric

You can't charge any wp7 device while its turned off.

Shu. said:
You can't charge any wp7 device while its turned off.
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i can charge it when de device is off! It is just a big battery sign on the screen!

norbee3al said:
i can charge it when de device is off! It is just a big battery sign on the screen!
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and how are you doing that ?

ceesheim said:
and how are you doing that ?
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Pixie sticks.
Lots
of
Pixie
Sticks.

ceesheim said:
and how are you doing that ?
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i turn off the phone and i put the phone to the charger. That's it.
I think is it important, i charge it via charger, NOT via laptop.

norbee3al said:
i turn off the phone and i put the phone to the charger. That's it.
I think is it important, i charge it via charger, NOT via laptop.
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I have to call BS on this one, at least if you're using an HD7... Unless you mean when you let it die til it's very end, and then when you plug it in it DOES show that, but temporarily until the phone has enough juice to turn on... then it does.

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