Ok, this has happened to me several times and i have never figured out why this has happened.
today i went to school and since we were having a test i turned my tilt off. after the test i turned my phone on. the tilt went through the normal boot (but i didnt see the att animation). then it went to the phone setup/align screen stuff, this is when i relized im screwed. after that i reset (to avoid the reinstall of the att software).
so the over all damage done is, my registry seems to have been competely erased. all my settings are lost, but as far as i can see all my files are there.
has this happened to anyone else, or does anyone have an idea what caused this? the only thing i could remember that is a cause of worry is that my main phone memory was down to about 2.3mb.
if its possible to get registry back please help, but really the only thing i want to know is how to prevent this after i hard reset and start to rebuild
:-(
are you using a fancy rom or a boring one?
ChumleyEX said:
are you using a fancy rom or a boring one?
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Boring normal ATT rom, i have just seen to many problems with others....
maybe try the new updated one?
saying this probably doesn't help u much, but i had the same thing happen to me too, except i didn't turn it off or anything special. I just rebooted and lost the registry like you did. I don't think its your free memory though, i had over 40mb free when it happened to mine.
Nothing you can do except backup nightly so you can be prepared for next time.
If you're using the AT&T ROMs, Sprite Backup is installed by default.
Hope this helps!
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Nothing you can do except backup nightly so you can be prepared for next time.
If you're using the AT&T ROMs, Sprite Backup is installed by default.
Hope this helps!
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is there a way to have sprite backup, backup directly to the computer when plugged in? so i dont use up all of the memory?
pizzaguy said:
is there a way to have sprite backup, backup directly to the computer when plugged in? so i dont use up all of the memory?
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Buy a MicroSD Card, they are relatively cheap, you can tell the backup program to only keep a certian number of back-ups (I keep 5). It also comes in handy if you want to try a new Rom.
You can also auto reset the device after the back-up it helps with stability.
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After many months of trouble free use I seem to have hit a number of issues and wonder if anyone has any suggestions. I will list them below. I don't know if they are related:-
1 The device will not switch on until either connected to the mains and/or soft reset.
2 Sudden unexpected draining of battery.
3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
4 Cannot be synced with laptop Error of replog.exe
5 Battery indicators shows charging when not attached to mains.
Quite a list and rather disappointing after such trouble free previous use.
Brian Leach
time to get a replacement
I'd hope to get more than three month's use out of a £400 plus piece of kit!!!
3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
this one could be because of Phone Alarm if u have that installed
Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable
Thanks for the suggestions.
I never managed to get Sprite tp work so I am trying to avoid a hard reset but that may be the only option.
I suppose the reason I want to avoid this is the many programs I have on the device which of course may be causing the problems so it's a bit of a vicious circle.
I have a spare battery so I might try that.
I tried reinstalling Activsync without success.
As you say I may well have to contact HTC.
Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply.
Brian Leach
Maybe you can get ActiveSync to work over bluetooth so you can at least back up what you need and then do a hard reset.
If a hard rest doesn't fix it i would then contact merchant/vendor to see if you can get warranty work done.
If you can't get warranty work done i would suggest flashing your ROM. You should be able to get Hard-SPL loaded and flash a ROM all from an SD card and not actually having to hook it up to your PC with active-sync.
Otherwise, if you don't want to take the risk I guess you'll have to live with the problems...but they sound pretty severe.
gl!
Didn't think of a bluetooth backup. Will try that.
Thanks for all the ideas.
Brian Leach
backup safety
fizzie said:
Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable
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be careful what you backup since the problems could be software based and restorin a backup containin these issues could put you back to where you left off
Will bear that in mind thanks
Brian Leach
Hi all,
I have searched around and found no answers.
my tilt was acting up a little so i decided to go back
to my previous best setup of all files.. so i ran my backupfiles (3 month old)
as this one had the right type of files I needed.
When I ran it, it did its thing and when it restarted it said that storage memory is full and some programs may not be able to function.
and ever since I haven't been able to use my tilt.. nothing functions.
I called up the ATT guys (2 AM LOL) and they were like, this is a fone problem and you'll have to take it up with the warranty guys to get it replaced.
I was wondering if there was anything I cud do to stop that replacement as this fone has gone thru a lot of modifications and I dont' wanna lose it!
Don't sound like a hardware issue. If you hard reset your phone and do not load your backup do you get this error? Or does this only happen when you try reinstalling from the backup?
If the backup was done from a different ROM it could be whats causing the problem.
If its happening right after a hard reset without you installing anything then its probably the device.
Check whether you have a recording file in main memory
This could have happened if you accidentally pressed the record button and created a large recording.
These files are usually stored in main memory.
It happened to me a lot in my AXIMS.
You can check by using start-settings-system-memory and there's an option to check which files are eating up your memory.
Another way would be to use the built-in file explorer and goto to the PPCs root directory and check there (or in MyDocuments).
no the backup isn't at fault.
I used this previously and it worked fine.
This time I installed the sprint version of the HTC today plugin and I wanted to get rid of the original HTC today plugin .. removed the HTC today plugin, did a soft reset, and all my data vanished (contacts/calendar details and stuff)..
so I decided to restore my backup which should have restored everything that I lost.
When the loading finished, it said that storage memory was low, and since then I haven't been able to do anything with the fone.. can't even do a hard reset.
It doesn't even respond to a USB being plugged in to re-install the ROM.
tua96426 said:
no the backup isn't at fault.
I used this previously and it worked fine.
This time I installed the sprint version of the HTC today plugin and I wanted to get rid of the original HTC today plugin .. removed the HTC today plugin, did a soft reset, and all my data vanished (contacts/calendar details and stuff)..
so I decided to restore my backup which should have restored everything that I lost.
When the loading finished, it said that storage memory was low, and since then I haven't been able to do anything with the fone.. can't even do a hard reset.
It doesn't even respond to a USB being plugged in to re-install the ROM.
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Have you tried a hard reset using the soft key combination? That should work regardless of any memory issues that would prevent you from getting to Clear Storage under Settings.
that's what finally worked.
It hit me at 4 in the morning
that there is a manual way
of doing a hard reset without
re flashing ..
thanks for all your interest peeps!
OK, I've upgraded my Diamond from 1.37 to 1.93. I then used SKTools backup to restore everything from a backup before the upgrade. And now I have a few strange things. This is just what I've noted immediately, I haven't even tried anything else yet....
On the Home screen, after a soft reset or moving from any other TF3D screen to home, the clock runs from the current time to 12:59AM, the Home screen also shows my connection to T-Mobile, which is strange as I'm with O2, which is what it shows in the Phone screen.
The date is also wrong, showing Jan 1 2008. If you go into the date/time screen the date & time are correct.
Oh, and the Soft menus are a bit screwed as well...
I will try a hard reset without a restore and see what happens...
I think you should re-do your upgrade to 1.93.
I had similar problems with HTC's back-up software... after upgrade to 1.93 and running the back-up program... it showed that i still had 1.37 ROM!
I don't back-up my data anymore, I just use Outlook for my contacts.
glumetu said:
I think you should re-do your upgrade to 1.93.
I had similar problems with HTC's back-up software... after upgrade to 1.93 and running the back-up program... it showed that i still had 1.37 ROM!
I don't back-up my data anymore, I just use Outlook for my contacts.
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always hard reset when flashing a new rom
and restoring backup between two different roms is nto recommended at all. at that might be the cause of your problem
use pim backup to restore contacts, calendar, and inbox. backing up settings not recommended.
regards
karim099 said:
always hard reset when flashing a new rom
and restoring backup between two different roms is nto recommended at all. at that might be the cause of your problem
use pim backup to restore contacts, calendar, and inbox. backing up settings not recommended.
regards
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i tried using SPB back up and Sprite and in the end it was easier to do fresh CAB installs on the new flashed ROM. Less hassles trying to troubleshoot the problems.
Definitely, dont back up the systems data with a different ROM, you will run into trouble!
Anyone out there carried out a fully successful restore after a ROM upgrade?
If so, could you please give details, i.e. what ROM versions were involved, and which backup software was used.
Really itching to go to from .37 to .93, but really can't face all the re-prog. I did one full restore on the phone with Sprite, when I screwed up some settings beyond what I could be bothered to fix, and it worked flawlessly, so I suppose I could suck it and see with a .93, and if it's rubbish, revert to .37, but I'd still be interested in any feedback first.
karim099 said:
always hard reset when flashing a new rom
and restoring backup between two different roms is nto recommended at all. at that might be the cause of your problem
use pim backup to restore contacts, calendar, and inbox. backing up settings not recommended.
regards
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you are soooo right! by restoring the backup from a previous ROM you brought in system setting and registries that no longer apply to the new ROM.
if restoring from the old system and register why bother flushing a new ROM?
i think that in order to correct the present situation all you have to do is a hard reset.
and yes, you can restore PIM.
KukurikU said:
you are soooo right! by restoring the backup from a previous ROM you brought in system setting and registries that no longer apply to the new ROM.
if restoring from the old system and register why bother flushing a new ROM?
i think that in order to correct the present situation all you have to do is a hard reset.
and yes, you can restore PIM.
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i cant beleive u agreed on every idea i said neighbor
So the consensus of opinion is to clean install everything....
To avoid the hassle of continually updating ROMs, and the subsequent 'F' factor of re-progging every time, I'll probably wait a few months for the run of updates to fizzle out and we'll hopefully have something of a 'definitive' ROM.
Do any of the old hands have any thoughts or feelings as to how long it usually takes before ROMs for new devices become close to 'definitive'?
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So the consensus of opinion is to clean install everything....
To avoid the hassle of continually updating ROMs, and the subsequent 'F' factor of re-progging every time, I'll probably wait a few months for the run of updates to fizzle out and we'll hopefully have something of a 'definitive' ROM.
Do any of the old hands have any thoughts or feelings as to how long it usually takes before ROMs for new devices become close to 'definitive'?
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i think that rom developement will never stop.. it will slow down when the next gen device arrives... which was the case for the touch, its been few months only when the rom developement slowed down ( but still roms are being released)
However, htc barely releases official roms only if there is a big improvement.
an average of 2 to 3 updates for a device.
what will you say for chefs and rom enthusiasts which have their devices flashed for over 50 times till now?
i sometimes encounter that weird soft menus during start up, but they'd go away after the phone had fully booted up...
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Oh, and the Soft menus are a bit screwed as well...
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what will you say for chefs and rom enthusiasts which have their devices flashed for over 50 times till now?
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I know, perhaps I'm just lazy, but here's me cringing at the thought of doing just one
I think I'll wait a few months for HTC's next official release, and if there isn't one by about November I'll flash the .93
studz said:
I know, perhaps I'm just lazy, but here's me cringing at the thought of doing just one
I think I'll wait a few months for HTC's next official release, and if there isn't one by about November I'll flash the .93
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.93 is a must. it has a big performance increase.. and battery life improvement
you may want to try one of the coocked roms also u will fall in love with your device
karim099 said:
.93 is a must. it has a big performance increase.. and battery life improvement
you may want to try one of the cooked roms also u will fall in love with your device
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Fairly enamoured with it now to be honest, but I might be tempted to bite the bullet sooner rather than later. Too busy to go through the hassle right now though... how do you boys find the time??! Thanks for the insight into the advantages of .93
problem is from backup program
back up is for 1.37 rom. and now u want apply it in 1.93 !
If you are going to frequently flash your device you can use SASHIMI, from the development and hacking forum. It is basically an autoinstaller so you can set it up with all your cabs, registry entries, files, start menu etc and after a hard reset you run it and it copies it all across. Works better than restoring a backup from a different rom, and faster and more convenient than doing it all manually. It did take me about 10 hours to set it up with all my registry changes though, but it was a fun rainy day projects. Please post in the main SASHIMI thread if you have questions.
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Please post in the main SASHIMI thread if you have questions.
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Sounds like that could be the way forward bigruss... I'll look in on the tread and give you all a shout if I need help when the time comes. Thanks for the tip.
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i cant beleive u agreed on every idea i said neighbor
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believe it! isn't this wonderful? you are right and i agree. flags don't matter here.
studz said:
I know, perhaps I'm just lazy, but here's me cringing at the thought of doing just one
I think I'll wait a few months for HTC's next official release, and if there isn't one by about November I'll flash the .93
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i think this is going to make yr life a lot easier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392983
very strange indeed
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believe it! isn't this wonderful? you are right and i agree. flags don't matter here.
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hope one day flags wont matter anywhere
SASHIMI seems to be interesting... good find
I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9
Have you tried running the fix_permissions script?
I'll reboot and run it now
Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/
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Didn't fix them, unfortunatly :/
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Back up all your apps using MyBackupPro or Backup for Root Users. I have all mine on my sd so they re-install automatically. I don't have to do anything, and they don't load up as com.xxxxx.htc.. blah. But I use Backup for Root Users when I do have to format my ext2 and this brings them back no problem.
Hmm interesting. I've never used Backup for Root Users with apps, just the data. Takes too long for me with all my apps...but I managed to find the spare time to re-install, that was fun . Thanks guys!
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Wouldn't hurt to have a backup unlocked GSM phone too. That's one of the nice things about GSM-based technologies... if your phone dies for whatever reason, pop the sim out and put it in a backup phone. You'll still be able to be contacted while you fix the primary device.
I had this issue too with the same Rom and with the previous version. This is how I solved it.
First I deleted all apps, etc from my SD card while it was connected to my Mac, just made it easier. (I was also running a previous Apps2Sd, not the one built into the mod, which I believe was the root of the issue. I didn't use the old apps2sd once I upgraded the ROM, and I may be way off but I find it suspect.
Then I wiped and reinstalled the ROM. Yea I had to reinstall my apps but...
...before doing all that I had tried removing and then reinstalling an app. A reboot/power cycle of the G1 would result in the icon being gone again and that ugly error message in regards to the app.
When I did the step I mentioned prevously, delete, wipe, etc I've not had any further issues.
I've also since updated by fs from ext2 to ext3 but that was after the fact.
Cyan's mod is by far my favorite and consistently stable and well documented. I'm glad I was able to correct my issues.
kusotare said:
my advice to anyone on here who is going to play with anything on their phone:
before you do it, make sure you have enough time allotted to fix EVERYTHING, as if you were starting from scratch. that way, before you begin, you can have the peace of mind to know that if anything goes wrong, you've got all the time you need to fix it.
murphy's law: whenever you think you're in for a quick fix, theres a long road ahead of you.
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Have to agree completely with the above. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
lukekirstein said:
I might be a senior, but we're all still learning
So my question is, when you wipe/reflash something, is there a way to keep all the Protected/Paid apps installed when you start up? Normally, a wipe will break all of your protected/paid apps and list them in the launcher as "com.XXXX.XXXX" or even "org.XXX.XXX". Launching them results in the infamous Force Close box.
This is indeed on Apps2SD and with Cyan's new 3.9
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Did you manage to find a solution to this problem? If you did, could you please post it. I flash different ROMs often. Having to reinstall my paid apps over and over again is starting to get very annoying.
Haven't tried yet. I might try the MyBackup Pro option, as I heard it's a great app anyways. But I know what you mean
I was using my phone a few hours ago (adding an icon from the application drawer to the home screen if that will help with solving the problem) when suddenly, the phone reset itself as though I had done a wipe from the recovery console. I had to sign back into Google and re-sync my contacts and calendar. All my settings were back to defaults. My home screen icons disappeared and changed to the default icons (browser, contacts, dialer, market, messaging, maps) as did the wallpaper. All my SMS messages were gone. Basically, it as was as though I had wiped and flashed the ROM for the first time.
However, and this is the weird part. Not only were all my apps still there but they were still installed. All the settings were lost but they were still there. I am not concerned with the restoration of my settings or anything like that. I've got that all covered with backups. My big question is why did it happen? Has anyone experienced or heard of this phantom reset? My ROM details are in my sig but just in case that changes and someone visits this post later, it will make more sense to them if I list it in the post itself.
Cyanogen 3.6.8.1 w/Recovery Menu v1.4. Radio v2.22.19.26i. A2SD on 550MB ext2 partition. Compcache enabled/24MB.
Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
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Has the only happened once with you? It could have been just a glitch.
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Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
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Well, I can tell you why your apps survived, because you have them on sd card so that's not weird, you can wipe all you want and they will survive.
I would say this is a glitch, don't worry about it unless it happens again.
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Yes, the apps on sd being the reason I didn't lose them makes sense. I had a different problem losing apps on the sd when I wiped but that was a mistakes in the way I was slinking and it was also on JF1.51 (a2sd is very unstable on that ROM). Anyway, I'm seriously hoping it was just a one time glitch because my setup is voodoo smooth otherwise. I finally got my G1 running perfectly and I'd hate to think something was wrong. Either way, Nandroid is always an option.
Phantom Reset Not a Glitch. Happened Again!
OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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I am pretty certain that this happened right after I used Backup for Root Users. I have my identical setup on my father's G1 and this has never happened. He has told me in the past that he does not use that app. I don't want to instantly blame the app but I want to provide as much info as possible. Cyan's ROMs are too good for this to be an issue.
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OK. So it happened again. The phantom reset that I described in the first post happened to me again. It's pretty annoying to have to perform Nadroid restores all the time. Anyone have any real thoughts other than telling me it was a fluke?
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The dev has reported that it has issues (if you can replicate the errors, send him a logcat)
hes on the forums on this site
SOLVED
Thanks a lot. I will try and write-up (on dev's site) of what I was doing when it happened. It happened to me twice so I don't think I will use it again (at least until it's fixed). I am a backup freak so I like to use multiple apps but nandroid seems to cover it all. I will stick with what seems to work (and work well) for now.
On a side note, Cyan's latest looks too juicy not to try out. Going to upgrade now.