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Need Task Switcher for WM6

Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules

pBar
have you tried the pBar application that is around on the forums? it's freeware and was based on the old wisbar. seems to work well, but i don't think i am using a full wm6...just the beta ish...or wm5 heavily skinned wm6....
do a search and you're bound to find it...

ZaJules said:
Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules
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I'm running a PDAviet WM6, it has this in it's ROM. Tap and hold upper-right corner.

I love it when I can answer my own questions
After searching and using a bunch off apps and not having any luck I just tried Small Menu and It works 100% in WM6.
Meets all my requirements
More news or problems as I find them
Jules

gspocket magic
best app that does all you want

Thanks for the replies.
Vilem. please can you elaborate on that?
I am using Davit ver 3 and have not seen this app.
Sandrobber. Thanks for the file, I have tried the app before but it doesn't match or look good on the stock WM6 start bar. am I missing a setting or something?
So far SmallmenuPlus is the winner for me.
Jules

I have to say, people I know that have been running Crossbow for a few months, have found SmallMenuPlus to be great.
On an unrelated note, I've run SmallMenu pretty much since I got my first WinMob phone, and can highly recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's very useful.
PocketMagic is also a very worth (free) contender.
I don't use Wisbar (resource usage....) so can't comment.
V

Does anyone know a way to exclude some applications (activesync and phone) from smallmenuplus task list?
Killing the phone process during a conversation or closing activesync during a pc sync can be really dangerous/disappointing.

No, I don't think you can, hence my "It's not perfect"
Try writing to the author, he's still active, although the app only seems to get minor updates these days.
V

I've been using Dinar HandySwitcher 2.5 from DinarSoft for a good while now. It has the decided advantage that you can also remove the application from memory, or all applications from memory, right from the main screen. Most times the only way to clear applications is through the start/settings/systems /memory route or a hard power down.
It's not free but it is cheap, easy and effective. Don't know if it runs on W6.

Trying it now.
Works fine in WM6.
Thanks

pocket magic
you can chenge the pictures of the start bar in pocket magis but it takes some enginutity and time. your have to edit the bitmap. Play aroung with it enough and I'm sure you can make it even look loke a vista button
http://homepage3.nifty.com/UK-taniyama/tools/GSPMagicPP.html

@ZaJules,
Which taskswitcher did you settle with in the end for WM6?

Hadn't seen this thread, thanks for bumping it up . So I'm trying SmallMenuPlus and this seems like a really nice (and fast) replacement for Wisbar Lite. The one thing I miss though is there is no soft reset in the menu. I like having that ability to do a soft reset via the menu due to the case I have doesn't have easy access to the reset hole on the side. Anyone know how to add this?
Also, does SmallMenuPlus not close apps when you press the X? Does it just put them in background? Can that be configured?

SKmenu
Skmenu is the one for me. Its not free(for the cascading menu part, which can be deactivated! ), but the taskbar switching works 100% with the demo. I have always used it, its very light, and its accessible 100% of the time= very quick(response speed is the issue i have with the rest of the apps mentioned). Although it doesnt come preconfigured setting it up takes less than a minute, and its easy enough for any level user.
The best solution for me. I also use an Alt-tab application mapped to a hardware button for easy access, like when driving etc...

about taskswicher
sry my poor english
Since 2004 and IPAQ6340 until today wizard/universal/hermes WM6 I have used HaaliTS TaskSwicher-2002.
Lives silently in upper left corner, shows additionally free battery and memory.
Dont needs install, copy exe, make shortcut, all )
Perfect for me and my friends (~25-30 units).
Have tested all here overmentioned progs, but find it best. Small footprint, etc.
regards

And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
BTW: I´m using ilauncher and you can put taskmanager to button. Works perfekt in every WM6

papamopps said:
And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
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Exactly what I needed!

Uninstalled SPB Pocket Plus - Something's Missing

Oh knowledgable HTC folk,
I'm sure I've seen something on this but multiple searches have found nothing ...
I've uninstalled SPB Pocket Plus 4 (I have a registered 3 but was trying 4) and I've lost the HTC close/menu button on the top right of the home screen. Now, the close button only minimises apps rather than closes them fully.
How do I get this button / feature back ... please ...
And an early "Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year" to all,
Gary.

Unfortunately I had it as well and had to do a Hard Reset

Neo-theone said:
Unfortunately I had it as well and had to do a Hard Reset
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cr*p, I've really tried to avoid this since getting my device about a month ago... Would I be able to backup/restore everything to current state or would it result in the same thing (I presume the worst but just asking)?
Oh, well: I guess it will give me an excuse to load one of the great new ROM's out there. I was hoping to wait for an update with the video drivers first though...

All you have to do is go to the Pocket Plus options screen & uncheck the close button option.

GSLEON3 said:
All you have to do is go to the Pocket Plus options screen & uncheck the close button option.
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Do you mean I should reinstall PP and then go to the options screen ... ?
Gary.

First go into settings > system > task manager (if it's there) and try to turn on the close button feature. If it's not there, then follow below:
Reinstall of PP4 may or may not work now that you've uninstalled PP4, but it's worth a try.
Also, if you want the HTC task manager back, you can get it here in cab form and it will work fine once installed.

smittyofdhs said:
First go into settings > system > task manager (if it's there) and try to turn on the close button feature. If it's not there, then follow below:
Reinstall of PP4 may or may not work now that you've uninstalled PP4, but it's worth a try.
Also, if you want the HTC task manager back, you can get it here in cab form and it will work fine once installed.
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You're a GENIUS - I've just reinstalled the Task cab from the collection here and it seems to be back to normal
Big thanks,
Gary.

gxprice said:
You're a GENIUS - I've just reinstalled the Task cab from the collection here and it seems to be back to normal
Big thanks,
Gary.
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glad to hear it...

Which task manager cab?
Which task manager cab did you install; there are two but no note about the difference between them. Thanks.

Here's the lastest version that I've been able to find and it works good....

lgshaw said:
Which task manager cab did you install; there are two but no note about the difference between them. Thanks.
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Actually, it was late and the only one I saw when looking quickly through was wktask1_1170 (in the cab collection). I guess this is the OEM version(?).
Is there any advantage for me uninstalling this and installing the latest version (presumably a local customised version)?
Regards,
Gary.

gxprice said:
Actually, it was late and the only one I saw when looking quickly through was wktask1_1170 (in the cab collection). I guess this is the OEM version(?).
Is there any advantage for me uninstalling this and installing the latest version (presumably a local customised version)?
Regards,
Gary.
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that's not the HTC tassk manager, that is a totally different task manager.

smittyofdhs said:
that's not the HTC tassk manager, that is a totally different task manager.
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Interesting ....
It did exactly what I expected and what was on the phone in the first place (tiny drop down menu top right corner of today screen, properly closes programs, etc.)
Having said that, I've just checked my "Remove Programs" list and indeed, it says "waku WkTASK"; doesn't sound very OEM to me. Does work correctly though.
Is there any advantage to the other Task Managers that have been mentioned?
Regards,
Gary.

gxprice said:
Interesting ....
It did exactly what I expected and what was on the phone in the first place (tiny drop down menu top right corner of today screen, properly closes programs, etc.)
Having said that, I've just checked my "Remove Programs" list and indeed, it says "waku WkTASK"; doesn't sound very OEM to me. Does work correctly though.
Is there any advantage to the other Task Managers that have been mentioned?
Regards,
Gary.
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no, actually wktask has more functionality, maybe too much. Are you using a custom ROM? I ask because wktask doesn't come standard in the OEM ROMs.
The HTC version is just a task manager. You can find a screenshot here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-task-manager-v2-0.html

smittyofdhs said:
no, actually wktask has more functionality, maybe too much. Are you using a custom ROM? I ask because wktask doesn't come standard in the OEM ROMs.
The HTC version is just a task manager. You can find a screenshot here:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-task-manager-v2-0.html
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No, I'm just using the standard ROM that came with the phone. For the task manager, I just went to the directory here and picked the first file that I saw with "Task" in the title ....
I confirm again: it does work though
I am thinking about a custom ROM but am 1> fairly confused about the range out there and b> am waiting for a critical benefit such as the new video drivers.
Regards,
Gary.

well no rom is going to have video drivers, at least for now. that would have to come from HTC.
as for which rom to choose, Dutty's are some of the best. Which ever one you choose, make sure to research these forums to get other people's opinions first.

PointUI to replace Today Screen

When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.

grandpareza said:
When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.
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I myself have been trying to find a way to completely replace the Today screen with PointUI, but without any success. So I ended up throwing together this little piece of software.
It is called GetPointUI and is basically a Today plugin, which acts similar to the SPBWatcher plugin. If PointUI is not running, it will start it, and if PointUI is running, it will activate it as soon as the Today screen becomes visible. To deactivate GetPointUI, simply uncheck the plugin in the Today settings.
Now, mind you, I have only tested this application on my XV6800 (and it is working perfectly) with PointUI installed in the default location. I do not have S2U and/or any other launchers/Today replacements installed, so GetPointUI might interact with those in an undesired way. If you should have PointUI installed in a non-default location, GetPointUI SHOULD be able to detect that and find the correct path, but this has not been tested. The same goes for new versions of PointUI that might be released in the future. GetPointUI SHOULD always bring up the latest version, but again, that is pure theory. I am curious myself...
Installation: Just install the attached CAB and soft-reset your device.
NOTE: I will NOT be responsible for any damage on your device or any data loss you may incur. You are using this software at your OWN risk.

Unfortunately, that CAB file you posted won't install. No error, just "Unsuccessful"

here this may have fixed it

Perfect. Thanks guys. Since the time of posting (January), pointui has created a feature where you can choose to replace the Task Bar/Start Bar with the pointui task bar. Touching this "pointui task bar" takes you back to the home screen and at another location on the bar it gives you the "Running Applications"
Thanks again guys. Much appreciated.

kidnamedAlbert said:
here this may have fixed it
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Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.

mimpoca said:
Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.
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yeah no problem

Still not working for me. Any suggestions?

getpointui not tinstalling
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1

hello,
i tried this .cab on PPC 2000SE - it installs - but nothing happens
- no new plugin
- going to today (and stay there) is still possible.
is there a way to make this work on 2003SE ?
thank you!

GetPointUI not installing...
chrisaba1 said:
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1
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I have an HTC S640 with Windows Mobile 6, I get the same error...will not install. Without this app, PointUI although very slick, without it beeing able to work like this its just eye candy....
If anyone has this working, please POST!!!!!

i know this is off the topic, but does anyone know if POINTUI is still in production for a new release?
it is true there are bugs in pointui, but free is free.. for the most part, POINTUI is a excellent all in one interface, simple, basic and fast...
tvos

6.1 T-Mobile Edition, Bug Discussion (NO POSTING PLEASE)

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Well If you enterd this thread, You probley figured out that we have a 6.1 T-mobile edition rom thanks to ND4SPD. How ever at the moment it is limited to a small group to test. At the same time I hate using the PM system when multiple ppl are testing anything. So I made a thread were WE (the TESTERS) can discuss and post fixes for this rom so we can get it released to you (THE PUBLIC) soon. I ask please, PLEASE, Do Not Post in this thread UNLESS you actually recieved the test rom from nd4spd. When a nonsence post is posted it makes it harder for us to concentrate on working on the rom when we are answering your questions.
#1 Question to be posted in this thread is...
Q. WHEN IS THIS ROM GONNA BE OUT ????????
A. AFTER WE FIX BUGS AND ND4SPD FEELS ITS READY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On to the post.
What I have found so far..
1. HOME Messages Tab crashes NEO when enabled.
Installing my cab of 4.0 Arcsoft mms did not help this problem.
2. HOME My Faves App does not work, but My Faves settings will run.
I have not tryed to fix this.
3. HOME Notification Tab does not open the text its notifing you of nor does it dismiss the text by pressing dismiss
I have not tried to fix this
4. HOME Wap Shortcuts cannot find winwap or one of its components.
I think adding regisrty values for clinks instead of using the guid will fix this.
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
Figured out why but dont have a fix. Im missing HKCR
6. Start Menu Recent Programs includes 2 shortcuts that do not work (Instant Messaging.lnk and Task Manager)
In conveinence untill you open 9 programs to get these off recent programs. These programs work when using the shortcuts in "all programs"
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
I havnt looked into this. How ever ive had the problem before and its usually the html file being used.
8. WAP BROWSER says my homepage is unavalible (but the default t-mobile rom told me this as well)
I dont know if this is just my phone, Feedback needed.
9. UNLOCK SCREEN still does not show clock and date when set to
Seems like we are going to have alot of fun with this one.
10. HOME Getting Started is not displayed.
Simple menu added to the registry for neo will fix this.
11. PHONE Can not initiate call by dialing number and hitting send key. (have to hit center button on D-Pad)
I have no clue were to start looking on this one.
12. MMS Does not work
SMS Works fine.
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I have not tested WIFI or BLUETOOTH
ND4SPD said neo is looking for arcsoft 4 but arcsoft 5 is on this rom wich is why the message tab isnt on the neo homescreen.
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shadowmike said:
5. HOME Settings tab doesnt include battery display
The battery in the settings tab is not showing up due to the ID in the registry {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6}, When its switched to the wifi ID wifi status shows up on line 2 but the battery is displayed in the settings tab and opens power.exe when clicked. But when switched back to {634CA962-22D8-4671-BBC7-BAC47148A4B6} the battery display dissapears.
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shadowmike said:
7. PIE Favorites & History when clicked open file explorer. instead of drop down menu.
The html coding is causing the favorites and history drop downs from displaying correctly. This reg edit will fix this issue simply by using the default windows mobile homepage. wich is the same page but not skinned by t-mobile
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\AboutURLs]
"version_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"home_0409"="[URL="file://windows//default_0409.htm"]file://\\windows\\default_0409.htm[/URL]"
"blank"="res://webview.dll/blank.htm"
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shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder

I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious

ND4SPD said:
I think there are two ways of solving the problems:
The Easy Way:
Just use the wm6 OEM files and use all wm6.1 SYS files except CHome and ConfettiCore
This will get a working rom quickly but the problems we have now will still be there if we try making separate organized packages for each software.
The Hard Way:
Fix all these bugs one by one until assured to work and only then post a public rom. This means that the rom will take a longer time to release.
I prefer the hard way, but am open to the easy solution. What do you guys think.
btw, thanks shadowmike for making this thread. PM'ing was pretty tedious
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I like the hard way.
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kron2 said:
shadowmike one of the biggest problems I am having is it locks up on the home page and did you nodes win going in to
internet explorer and hitting favorites or history it brings you to the windows folder
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Explain lockup ? as in freeze. And how do you get it to freeze ? Are you switching home screens and when you try to get to homescreen you cant ? what apps are you running on the rom ?
and #7

it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom

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it just freezes by scrolling down it .well as there is so many bugs I am running no apps and by lockup I mean the home screen freezes so you can't scroll it but you can go to start and to other app but the home screen stays locked till reboot are you having the same problem if not I will try to redownload it and reinstall it... nd4spd did you work the bugs out of the new way of installing from the T-Mobile rom if so I will give it a go and I would like to see a stabile T-Mobile wm6.1 rom with out neo first thin work on this but you are the cook not to say I would use it I like the clean wm6.1 I have......i would like to see UC (user customizable) 2.0 Capable in the clean rom
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I have not had your "Freeze", however since the shadow is underpowered. when i switch homescreens if i dont hit end call or the home button before it starts to load the homescreen i have to restart. however this also happend in the official t-mobile rom.

Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.

tweker said:
Small bug I noticed is when you set your calendar view to default to month (say), it still only opens to agenda view.
Not quite sure what received from nd4spd means but with a few hacks this is a great rom.
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It means he pm'ed a few ppl a link to a new 6.1 t-mobile NEO homescreen rom.
From what he told me it was not publicly released... so if he did not send you the link to this rom and you have it. somone leaked it... thats what it means. basicly. I dont want ppl that dont have this test rom to come in this thread and ask questions and make this thread 10 pages.

How is the process going Guys.

well i decided to come back and work on this again.
im currently installing the rom. simply because i want to use the portrait camera. and since it works flawlessly in this version. yeah.

Yea Mike, what I been wanting is the original T-Mobile screen back.

[REQ] Little app to restart TF3D?

Since the born of Manila Editor, why someone (not me, I'm not able ) doesn't create a little app to restart TF3D?
It's a little bit annoying to go to start/settings/today/items to disable it and exit, then return inside to restart it.
Could be wonderfull a sort of macro to do it
Thx in advance!

Thread moved to Diamond general!

there is a free app called 'no plugins today' which if you run it once disables your today plugins, then run it again and it enables them. Seeing as TF3D is just a today plugin I don't see why this wouldnt work. Google for it.

I found some trick on Diamond by accident. If you move TF3D from left to right few times, (not sure how many, like 5-10 times) then it restarts.

Yhey... NoPluginsToday works!
Thanx a bunch bigruss!
Link to download...
http://www.ictinus.com/NoPluginsToday/

bigruss said:
there is a free app called 'no plugins today' which if you run it once disables your today plugins, then run it again and it enables them. Seeing as TF3D is just a today plugin I don't see why this wouldnt work. Google for it.
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Nice call, thanks.

NisseDILLIGAF said:
Yhey... NoPluginsToday works!
Thanx a bunch bigruss!
Link to download...
http://www.ictinus.com/NoPluginsToday/
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Thx a lot my friend!
Let me have a look

nutcracker2 said:
I found some trick on Diamond by accident. If you move TF3D from left to right few times, (not sure how many, like 5-10 times) then it restarts.
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is that a bug or what ?

I know a trick to restart your TFLO3D in a few clicks. If you have Wisbar Advance 2 installed, simply go to the control panel menu on the start menu and press 'Close all'. This will close all running programs running in the background including Manila.exe which will then re-appear.
Besides the Diamond looks a lot better with Wisbar Advance 2 and the skin of enCORe called Prot'n OB green skin, it matches with HTC green bars