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PointUI on the TyTN II

I just installed the latest build of PointUI (www.pointui.com) on my TyTN II, and really like the slick interface and touch capability. Anyone else running this app, and if so have you run into any issues? The fact that the software will remain a free product makes it worth the "testing".
Thanks.
James

Theres a couple of threads on this already. I have installed it but my TyTN II locks up every time within 2 minutes of starting, even after a soft-reset so have given up for now.
I may give it another go when they fix all the bugs listed on their forums and add more features to make it more usable and by then hopefully my lockup issues will be solved as well.

I did use it for some days but I hate that the 'close' button is not an actual close button at all. It just minimizes the app instead of closing it. So it is very memory consuming.
But I did like the interface and the way it worked. Just wait a little longer to have them some issues solved.

plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.

the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.

just installed it on my phone and it works for about 2 mins before freezing, once already its reduced my screen to randon red and yellow dots, so thats getting uninstalled.
shame really as the 5 mins i did get to spend playing with it i was quite impressed
or i would if it had a proper uninstaller

very nice!
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).

Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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This is a great update! I didn't like the idea of all my apps running in the background. Thanks for pointing this out.

yay! it lets me get to the hardware buttons!

Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??

plexat said:
Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
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No problem. I dont really know how I found it I have a tendancy to go to forums and open all threads that interest me by holding ctrl down and clicking on them. Then I read through and close them as I go.
I just happened to come across the update in one of the threads I was reading! One of the developers had posted a link to the file in the middle of a thread.

diar said:
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
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The cube activating is due to your touchflo config file. All you need to do is edit the config file to exclude pointui and the cube will not activate while pointui is open.

badaccent said:
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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Where did you get an emulator from, i would be interested in this.

PointUI - some notes
Great app, but the problem is it cannot start my 3G connection when e.g. updating weather, or using update manager.
DAMN!
When I start the connection manually from normal WM6 interface, it works then, but it's annoying...
Any help with this?
Thanks,
Gabriel

You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.

I'm note sure I would pay $100 for the UI, but I do agree that this is exactly what Windows Mobile needs. Overall function is great and with just a few minor fixes/changes this would be the killer app for any WM device.

nvrnuff said:
You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
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I cannot agree more than what you say. HTC is a superb tool designed by engineers with some "help" from designer people. I love it, but my god the interface is sometimes not sexy at all (just compare the icons of pointui as an exemple
Iphone is a superb tool made by designers. I love it from a purely design point of view, but it lacks a lot of things engineers love (openness, 3G+, GPS, etc.)
Now the TYTNII plus a pointUI type interface would be the top must. The very few minutes I spent with pointUI, I loved it. I will keep it as soon as it really work and have more customization.
Now, I am sticked to HTC, because it is quite easier to adapt a new interface to an existing device, than the contrary
Thx

hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!

leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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Read the uninstall instructions on the PointUI forums.

leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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I had the same.. fairly easy to fix:
get yourself a registry editor (PHM for example)
navigate to: \HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
change: Default string to 'phone' (from Home)
change: Open string to '\windows\cprog.exe'
then i'd do a soft reset.
should work..
hth.

PointUI to replace Today Screen

When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.

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When using PointUI, the app minimized and you are returned to the Today screen when hitting the End Button/Red Button. Is there anyway to disable this from happening? Meaning, is there a way to never be able to go back to the Today screen? Unless of course you go to "Close Home".
Thanks in advance.
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I myself have been trying to find a way to completely replace the Today screen with PointUI, but without any success. So I ended up throwing together this little piece of software.
It is called GetPointUI and is basically a Today plugin, which acts similar to the SPBWatcher plugin. If PointUI is not running, it will start it, and if PointUI is running, it will activate it as soon as the Today screen becomes visible. To deactivate GetPointUI, simply uncheck the plugin in the Today settings.
Now, mind you, I have only tested this application on my XV6800 (and it is working perfectly) with PointUI installed in the default location. I do not have S2U and/or any other launchers/Today replacements installed, so GetPointUI might interact with those in an undesired way. If you should have PointUI installed in a non-default location, GetPointUI SHOULD be able to detect that and find the correct path, but this has not been tested. The same goes for new versions of PointUI that might be released in the future. GetPointUI SHOULD always bring up the latest version, but again, that is pure theory. I am curious myself...
Installation: Just install the attached CAB and soft-reset your device.
NOTE: I will NOT be responsible for any damage on your device or any data loss you may incur. You are using this software at your OWN risk.

Unfortunately, that CAB file you posted won't install. No error, just "Unsuccessful"

here this may have fixed it

Perfect. Thanks guys. Since the time of posting (January), pointui has created a feature where you can choose to replace the Task Bar/Start Bar with the pointui task bar. Touching this "pointui task bar" takes you back to the home screen and at another location on the bar it gives you the "Running Applications"
Thanks again guys. Much appreciated.

kidnamedAlbert said:
here this may have fixed it
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Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.

mimpoca said:
Thanks kidnamedAlbert. I should have noticed that.
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yeah no problem

Still not working for me. Any suggestions?

getpointui not tinstalling
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1

hello,
i tried this .cab on PPC 2000SE - it installs - but nothing happens
- no new plugin
- going to today (and stay there) is still possible.
is there a way to make this work on 2003SE ?
thank you!

GetPointUI not installing...
chrisaba1 said:
Yeah i get it to ask where to install, i choose device and then it gives me an installation unsuccessful message. I am using an xv6800 on verizon with wm6.1
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I have an HTC S640 with Windows Mobile 6, I get the same error...will not install. Without this app, PointUI although very slick, without it beeing able to work like this its just eye candy....
If anyone has this working, please POST!!!!!

i know this is off the topic, but does anyone know if POINTUI is still in production for a new release?
it is true there are bugs in pointui, but free is free.. for the most part, POINTUI is a excellent all in one interface, simple, basic and fast...
tvos

Uninstalled SPB, taks menu is now gone...

Hi everybody.
Hopefully you all can help me out. I recently installed SPB pocket plus thinking I needed that for their Insight, but I now understand I don't. I went ahead and un-installed the pocket plus before i installed insight, and now the task option in the top right corner is gone on my Today screen. So I can't close programs individually or see whats running. Any ideas? Really don't want to restore a backup as I haven't done one since January. Thanks for any help! -Jeff

Punker1234 said:
Hi everybody.
Hopefully you all can help me out. I recently installed SPB pocket plus thinking I needed that for their Insight, but I now understand I don't. I went ahead and un-installed the pocket plus before i installed insight, and now the task option in the top right corner is gone on my Today screen. So I can't close programs individually or see whats running. Any ideas? Really don't want to restore a backup as I haven't done one since January. Thanks for any help! -Jeff
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May have a solution for you but it may not be what you are looking for.
Here is quickmenu. Quickmenu basically sets your device similar to a PC's start menu. Once you install this cab you will find it under start>programs. After you click on the application you will notice a new start menu.
Possible solution: Start>click on quickmenu>option>X-button of screen:Long-press to close, short to minimize.
After you have this set up correcting, simply click start to view your open programs. Fairly simple I have been using this application since I received my Tilt and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Hope you enjoy it.

I installed a barebones ROM and found I really liked that task manager in the top right corner....
Do a search on this site for Task_Manager_2_0_30487_2.CAB, it is exactly what you are looking for AND has a couple of other features too.
The difference between this and Quickmenu is that this one doesn't have all the other stuff (although I use quickmenu)....
Hope this helps,
MBN

yea, I'm sort of looking just to get the original one back, I'm not sure what I should do. I guess if I don't have a solution I'll be forced to run a backup I did on sprite. Was hoping this was a common problem but i guess not

I had the same problem when I tried the demo out. After a little research on SPB's forums, it turns out that it is a known problem during uninstallation.
Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you on how to fix it. I was so PO'd that I went and hard reset the phone. I hope that SPB fixes the issue and I'd like to see how support is for WM6.1

Punker1234 said:
yea, I'm sort of looking just to get the original one back, I'm not sure what I should do. I guess if I don't have a solution I'll be forced to run a backup I did on sprite. Was hoping this was a common problem but i guess not
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I'm tellin' ya, try the one I referenced above, it has just the corner app but where the original has a couple of options above the list of open apps, this offers three little buttons: Close All Open Apps|Settings|Memory %.
This takes up the same real estate the other one uses... give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
MBN

MustBNuts said:
I'm tellin' ya, try the one I referenced above, it has just the corner app but where the original has a couple of options above the list of open apps, this offers three little buttons: Close All Open Apps|Settings|Memory %.
This takes up the same real estate the other one uses... give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
MBN
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I actually tried it, and I love. The only thing I don't understand is the functionally, all I can figure out as of right now that it shows memory usage,thats it. Anyway, thanks for the heads up! -Jeff

On Kaiser You can restore the today quick menu (in the upper corner): in the system settings find "X Button" icon - tap on it and there will be an option to turn it on/off. If its suddenly disappeared that can be becouse of something (e.g. 3rd application) turned it off. Thats happend in my case with SPB Pocket Plus on wm6.

wkTask

Introduction: I have searched an answer to my question both in xda-developers, in SE Xperia X1 forum and in wkTask manual.
Questions:
#1: is there a way to have wkTask always on top/in front of WM today screen?
#2: is there a way to add to the laucher other links other than those on Start menu? (to make it simple: how can I add to the launcher links that are in Settings folder? I neither can find them on my PDA)
Thanks to you all, as always!
P.S.: great program wkTask... would suggest to cook it into Jack's lite Rom, using it I can almost use no panels at all!

you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar

Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.

that's odd, I found quickmenu causing some issues, not wktask

I stopped using it so long ago that I can remeber exactly what were the problems, but there were some crashes and whatnot..

I use Wktask as well, just not the quickmenu it has. Works like a charm for me!

Works fine on my X1 as well!

fards said:
you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar
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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Loco5150 said:
Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.
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Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!

[email protected] said:
#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!
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what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.

fards said:
what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.
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#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it

[email protected] said:
#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it
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You've made that perfectly clear now ;-)
But I think the answer is no. Maybe ask the author of WKtask if he could implement it as an option?
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1

fards said:
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1
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Thanks!
Yes, I know, and that's what I do every time... but I am so laaazyyy

Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.

Magger said:
Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.
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yep thats correct, its the battery level
first time i used it i hated that, but now i find it indispensible
you can turn it off in the preferences - general2 tab

question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???

Launcher settings backup
Hi, how can I backup settings of WK Task Launcher?
I have WK tasks with full settings launcher in HTC Raphael and I will put them to new phone - Xperia X1 (and I wan´t NO to set launcher again). ;-)

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question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???
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Go to the preferences menu of wktask. Tap on the 'Actions' tab, and you can set preferences for the OK button.
WKtask works great on my xperia. I don't use the launcher at all, but I wouldn't know how to function without the task manager.

WKTask Launcher settings Backup
Here is answer from directly from maker of WKTAsk:
The settings of WkTASK are written in registry.
So you can backup them by using "PHM Registry Editor".
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Backup steps
1. Open \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\waku\WkTASK.
2. Tap&hold WkTASK folder icon
3. Select "Export" and input file name
Regards,
waku
I use for this not PHM Registry Editor, but Total Commander, and without problem. In new phone/install only copy the WkTask.reg into registry and softreset. It´s easy

Is the a New WkTask for WM 6.5 ?
I have Att Tilt2

Getting Rid of TF3D

This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?

I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.

As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.

My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!

I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!

Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.

I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.

If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.

chch said:
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.

Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.

Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.

Jim Coleman said:
Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.

grgmhlch said:
Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!

Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?

I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.

I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !

Jim Coleman said:
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.

Jim Coleman said:
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.