This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?
I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.
As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.
My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!
Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.
I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.
Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!
grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
grgmhlch said:
Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!
Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?
I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.
I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !
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Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.
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I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.
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Hi!
I know someone's probably asked this before, but is anyone using the SPB Pocket Plus, with its myriad of plugins? What is your take on it, is it something worth getting?
Also, when you use it, is it still possible to display the time on the today screen, just like its displayed in the HTC home plugin? (would you need to buy their time plugin along with it?)
What plugins would you recommend to be a must have?
Thanks in advance!
Ughhh! If you know it's been asked before then why did you ask again?
Yes, a lot of people use it. SPB has good stuff. You can still display the time and don't need the SPB Time program.
Search for "must have plugins" and get a better answer than just posting the question.
do we really need rude unhelpful replies like this...
i,ve had it & wasn,t too impressed...too many small buttons which can be found just as easily by going throu the menu
It is a matter of preference. I find it useful to the extent that I do not like a cluttered home screen. So, I have seven tabs - six of which open programs (five programs assigned to a tab) - and the seventh (a smiley) in the center which has nothing assigned and gives my home screen nearly 2/3rds of an empty screen so I can display photos, themes, etc., and be able to see them, rather then having them covered with icons, symbols, etc.
I tried them all but only use a few of them. The back up program I use all the time so much better than sprite backup. I like the options that come with Pocket Plus but i disable the today screen plugin cause to me it clutters it up. I also really like the diary program that i use the most.
SPB
I went for SPB after hating the HTC ones. I like the customizability(?) of the SPB screen (although I wish I could increase icon size to be uniform [added ones are smaller than default ones] and add captions])
I was a little unimpressed at first, but then I found out how to really use it to my advantage. I was able to add the HSDPA (H) icon to the home screen as a shortcut to enabling/disabling H connection!
I use it too and like it, but then again I've been using Spb software for years now and really got used to it.
- Pocket Plus (v4) - Top of my Today Screen
- Diary - right under Pocket Plus on my today Screen, fills most of the screen
- Backup - runs every night at 3am with 3 copies kept on SD Card
- Spb Insight - great RSS reader also for offline
- Spb Weather - since I don't use the HTC Today plugin with weather
- Spb Brain Evolution - Game
- Spb Mobile DVD - used to have it but don't need it for TyTN II (400MHz)
- Spb Mobile Shell - Didn't like it
- Spb Phone Suite - Didn't see the point of it
You can try all the SpB apps for 15days nad then just enter a serial nr...
Phone Suite is great because it allows you to set what profile you want.
You can fully edit profiles. The best is auto profile, it will switch to normal profile in normal circumstances, then into silent or meeting mode during a meeting (scheduled in the calendar) and then revert back to normal or loud profile. If you connect a headset it will switch to headset profile automatically.
Very user friendly.
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I went for SPB after hating the HTC ones. I like the customizability(?) of the SPB screen (although I wish I could increase icon size to be uniform [added ones are smaller than default ones] and add captions])
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May I ask how you did this? I would find that to be helpful. Thanks
thanks guys! I installed spb yesterday, and i'm trying to tweak it to make it work just the way I want it too. On one hand I feel, the HTC home plugin is simplistic, and sophisticated looking and i should stick with it, but on the other, i feel like the power of pocket plus is immense...i guess i just have to play around with it and find a nice balance!
just out of curiosity..adding all this stuff on the phone, does it make the standard operations slower?
Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D
Dirky said:
Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D
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This is what i have, it sounds like it might be what you're looking for, the clock/calendar is rltoday, mine is a basic setup but you can customize it how ever you want, i've seem some pretty cool looking setups that are pretty advanced for me. The tabs is claunch, which you can have up to 8 tabs, you can have what ever icons you want in it, and you can make the icons as big/small as you want.
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This is what i have, it sounds like it might be what you're looking for, the clock/calendar is rltoday, mine is a basic setup but you can customize it how ever you want, i've seem some pretty cool looking setups that are pretty advanced for me. The tabs is claunch, which you can have up to 8 tabs, you can have what ever icons you want in it, and you can make the icons as big/small as you want.
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Thanks, very nice but more than I need. I don't need the calendar or clock, just a set of large icons I can quickly stab at with my fingers!
BTW what is the gmail notification you have there?
Thanks
D
(edit: just checked the rltime website and perhaps it will do what I want after all!)
Dirky said:
Thanks, very nice but more than I need. I don't need the calendar or clock, just a set of large icons I can quickly stab at with my fingers!
BTW what is the gmail notification you have there?
Thanks
D
(edit: just checked the rltime website and perhaps it will do what I want after all!)
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if it's just a few buttons you want then claunch might be something you want to take a look at, i have it setup w/4 tabs, but you can have it w/no tabs and just one screen and then put what ever icons you want to open up the program. the gmail notification is the standard Tilt notification. it came w/the phone.
SPB Mobile Shell, and SPB Pocket Plus are also excellent options. SPB Mobile Shell, is made for ease of use and functionality, but still makes your screen look amazing. You can even get weather updates on it. It also includes something called the SPB menu, which is fantastic for one handed navigation of programs, settings etc...
The first screenshot is of my today screen, at the top is SPB Pocket Plus (but Mobile shell looks similar), I use my tabs hidden, but as you can see from the second pic, if you just click on a tab, it has lots of goodies within. You can also have it so you don't need to click on a tab, and the content is always shown.
The third pic is so you can see how practical SPB menu is.
PS: I am in NO way affiliated with SPB, I just happen to love their software lol.
I agree for simple setup and use SPB Shell is a good starting point and you can customize the layout and icons to your needs.
If your into a bit more messing about and a little more work try Touch Commander.
As a starting point though SPB Shell
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I agree for simple setup and use SPB Shell is a good starting point and you can customize the layout and icons to your needs.
If your into a bit more messing about and a little more work try Touch Commander.
As a starting point though SPB Shell
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Thanks guys, must say having looked at the web page and features of SPB shell it does look very good.
Just wondered if it adds any stability issues or slow down to your kaiser device that you have noticed.
I tried to switch my kaiser on this morning with the usual power switch and it would not do anything. The lights were still flashing but nobody was home. I plugged it in to external power but still the same, ended up having to soft reset it. Sadly this is the second 'oddity' I have had in just over a week now. First was when it became unresponsive and would not respond to any screen presses. (I've not loaded SPB yet and to be honest not a lot else) /sigh!
Quick question, how does one get back to the SPB today screen from any other screen in one press? Without turning on/off?
Thanks
Mike
By pressing the End key?
Dirky said:
Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D
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Hi:
I saw this, and thought of your post:
http://www.freestylwm.com/
I haven't tried it myself, but it looks pretty cool, and it's free
If you try it, let me know what it's like
I recently installed Alex's rom, and love it. But one thing I'm trying to get that I had on my other is for HTC Plugin. I was able to press on the icon, and set it to hide the items it displayed. So, for eample, the large clock takes up a lot of screen space, I could have it hiddent, then click the icon for it to display. I can't do that with this.
I thought HTC Customizer must have given me that, so I instaleld it, and it doesn't.
CAn anyone point me to the right app to get that setting capability on HTC? There are a lot of posts out here about the HTC screens, but I haven't run across that description.
Thanks!
Bump...
Any ideas ?
I believe you're referring to UltimateLaunch or SPB PocketPlus 4.02, which allows you to install a today plug-in as a tab. Both applications have limited trials.
Alex, you are so good.
Yes, in fact I just came back here to say, I found that wsa it. I in fact have SPB Pocket Plus. But I had forgotten that was how I did it.
I'm making notes of all the changes I'm doing, so next time I do a ROM (I'm sure you'll have one I just have to try later ) that I'll be able to recrate some of my stuff.
Thanks!
Is there any way to add tasks to show up in the touchflow homepage, below the calendar?
Nobody knows?
i wanna know too
me too... I use tasks and prefer that to show up instead of calendar appointments.
Another task question...
I would like tasks to be added to Touchflo 3D too, but I'm guessing we're going to have to wait for the next version!
In the meantime, I have another task question; is it possible for tasks to just show active tasks that have "started"? e.g. if the start date for a task is next month, then I don't want to see it until then, unless I view "all tasks". I've just upgraded from a mobile 2005 device, and this is the first feature I'm missing!
Thanks for any help!
Lee
yeah...ane idea how to add task in the home screen...i so miss it though i like the Flo3D interface very much...adding the task option below the calender or instead could be great...ane ideas please...
thanks
With this version of TF3D it is unfortunately impossible.
yup i miss Tasks on the homepage too, the only alternative i found is adding it to the Start Menu so i can access it quickly.
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yup i miss Tasks on the homepage too, the only alternative i found is adding it to the Start Menu so i can access it quickly.
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Seriously?! No tasks on the home screen without disabling TF3D?.
Honestly.. ..every time I get a new WinMobile phone, it feels like 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Ho hum...
(at least that's an aggregated 1 step forward... ;-) )
Million peoples aks for this before. Just use the search or google.
If it is possible, we make the solution public! Just wait...
A good solution I have found from helpful guys here is to
1 - install Second Today (found on these boards)
2 - registry change one of your soft keys to Second Today so you can flick between TF3D and Today
3 - install a today screen plugin (I like Pocket Breeze)
Then you have the best of both worlds and if you like tasks, as I do, you have them, notes etc all on your screen no harder to get to than scrolling home in TF3D
Oh and also if you wallpaper it with the same image you hardly know you are in and out of TF
Yeah I can definately recommend SecondToday too
Integrating Task-list to TouchFlo3d
I've been looking around a while, and so far with no luck for a fix for this.
So, the question is: Was the call log tab discovered in TouchFlo3D a pre-coded and hidden tab, or was it coded from scratch?
As far as I remember, it was discovered... But it was coded from scratch, can someone prep a task-tab for the TouchFlo3D?
This will be interesting, if only i was a programmer.
looking forward to this realese if someone would be willing enough, you are my heros
HI,
I solved that issue installing the Second Today application and using the Pocket Breeze plugin.
But I would also like to view the Tasks in a Native Touch Flow Tab.
Regards,
Jose
A tab with task and appointment info sure would be nice to have...
Tasks tab for Touchoflo 3D
Has anyone developed a new tab for Touchflo 3D (like they did for Call History) that would work with tasks? It would be great to be able to view and change the status of tasks on the fly...
Hey there! Remember I posted a similar thread for a while ago, didn't get any solutions then, but maybe this time
AFAIK the "recent calls" tab of TF3D hasn't been developed by anyone here. It was always there, right from HTC - just not used.
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AFAIK the "recent calls" tab of TF3D hasn't been developed by anyone here. It was always there, right from HTC - just not used.
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really? thats strange
Does anyone know how you can make the Touch Diamond show more calendar dates on the tf3d home screen as it only shows one entry from the diary at the moment
Oh joy! Finally someone is asking this question
I'm asking too..
any ideas ?
Perhaps we should ask the mods to create a new sub-forum dedicated to posts asking for tasks and/or more calendar items in TF3D? There's certainly enough traffic to justify it!
Asked the same question .........but I also appreciate all the work being put into making our diamonds run better by others.........so when there is a solution, and please can an expert look at this.. I and all others will be very appreciative.
many thanks
This is an outlook mobile thing, happens on every phone. THere are calendar apps that display more items if you wish, i just don't know if they are diamond ready yet. calendar+ is an example
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This is an outlook mobile thing, happens on every phone. THere are calendar apps that display more items if you wish, i just don't know if they are diamond ready yet. calendar+ is an example
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Yeah i know, but since the the diamond displays already the next meeting in the calendar maybe there is p a place in the reg. to increase it to a few more ?
I use 2nd today and map it to the left softkey of the TF3D home page.
Then on 2nd Today, I use o2 plus plugin that displays all my events neatly.
Now I can switch between them seamlessly
I'm at work now, so I can post screenshots.. will do so later.
Cheers
Hi,
this is wat i did. I installed "Second Today" and I changed my left softkey to "Secondd Today" where I got PocketBreeze. My right softkey gets me too Pocket Informant.
I also changed my phone touch (left bottom) with pouch and hold it gets me too secondtoday. When I close my PocketBreeze I go back to my homescreen .
Lambert
Sorry "second today" "installed", could you explain to a newbie-ish and frustrated calendar user, please?
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Hi,
...where I got PocketBreeze...
Lambert
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Like your skin, where did you get that?