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Hey folks, I got my Wing a couple of weeks ago and I love it. I had a treo before, and this makes me much happier. I had gotten into modding the UI a bit and playing around with the best combos of third-party software on my old treo, so I started playing with my Wing. Well, I've gotten probably mid-level with my technical modding competency thus far. I'm comfortable with most progs and mods I've found below actually flashing the ROM, and I'd think about that too, but I've gathered that most of the TF roms out have trouble on the Wing. So far, I'm overclocked to 260, tweaked some stuff in the registry, installed the HTC Touch UI minus the cube and all that, but I'm not quite happy. So, I have some questions:
On the HTC Home 5 tab skin:
1. Is there any way to put custom icons in the launcher area? Not just style-wise(though that would be good), but that link to things that aren't on the list? I'd really love to but a button that would take me to "settings" in there, like the one that takes you to "programs". I have a few other ideas too.
2. On the weather tab, I know there is a way to add cities to the "select city" list by getting the city code off of accuweather.com and changing the registry, but I can't figure out how to get the code for my city when I look it up on the site...I search it, and it comes up, but where is the code?
3. I put the HTC black theme on here, but I wondered, are there any others available? I know I've seen a blue one, and I think I've seen pictures of an HTC Touch that had a red theme....
Other Stuff:
1. I tried to up my page pool to 6mb like it says in the "all you need to know" thread, but the preparation app wont work....I install it, but nothing happens after that....I can't find it to open or anything else...Is installing it enough?
2. Is there any way to keep wm6 from putting the recently used programs on the start menu?
3. Is there any way to change the two links on the bottom bar that the soft keys are mapped to? Not change what the keys are mapped to, but like, change "Calendar" to "Settings" or "Contacts" to "Messaging", for example?
4. Is there anything out there that would let me navigate my phone with my finger? I know certain programs have this capability, like Opera Mobile's latest beta and PocketCM(which I use), but I'd like it on all windows that require scrolling....
Apps:
1. Anyone know the best app to use to stream radio and/or tv on my phone?
2. What's the best way to watch youtube? I wouldn't ask, but I've found like three or four different threads/articles on ways to do it, and I don't know which I should use. I prefer to use Opera as my browser, but I can use PIE now and then, if the process actually lets me watch it in my browser....
3. Can ya suggest any good games?
Well, thanks in advance for any help you can give. I've been trolling here for a while, so I know there are some very smart people here and I have faith. Sorry for asking so much, and forgive me if I should have broken this up a bit into different threads, but I'm trying to perfect my phone, and this was basically what was left on my list....Any other tips on how to achieve my goal of making a nice, clean, finger-friendly UI and putting the picking the best apps would be appreciated too.
Peace.
Ok, I figured out the HTC weather thing, and the today softkey thing, so I'm good there. Any help on the rest?
I can cover a few for you but any more's gonna cost ya....
flash your phone with either of the touch roms out right now and you will be able to finger scroll in nearly all applications.
try avotmv, or search using google for similar programs for streaming videos(avotMv includes youtube as well as google).
Many streams to tv stations can be opened with WMP directly which makes it alot easier to connect to them by saving them as PIE favourites. You just need to find 'em first, I would suggest doing that from your computer first.
I've recommended Flux Challenge before, ill do it again...apart from that I don't run too many games from my pocket pc. Seal Volleyball is kinda fun too.
Maybe some others can assist you with the rest
cheers
Is there any way to add tasks to show up in the touchflow homepage, below the calendar?
Nobody knows?
i wanna know too
me too... I use tasks and prefer that to show up instead of calendar appointments.
Another task question...
I would like tasks to be added to Touchflo 3D too, but I'm guessing we're going to have to wait for the next version!
In the meantime, I have another task question; is it possible for tasks to just show active tasks that have "started"? e.g. if the start date for a task is next month, then I don't want to see it until then, unless I view "all tasks". I've just upgraded from a mobile 2005 device, and this is the first feature I'm missing!
Thanks for any help!
Lee
yeah...ane idea how to add task in the home screen...i so miss it though i like the Flo3D interface very much...adding the task option below the calender or instead could be great...ane ideas please...
thanks
With this version of TF3D it is unfortunately impossible.
yup i miss Tasks on the homepage too, the only alternative i found is adding it to the Start Menu so i can access it quickly.
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yup i miss Tasks on the homepage too, the only alternative i found is adding it to the Start Menu so i can access it quickly.
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Seriously?! No tasks on the home screen without disabling TF3D?.
Honestly.. ..every time I get a new WinMobile phone, it feels like 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Ho hum...
(at least that's an aggregated 1 step forward... ;-) )
Million peoples aks for this before. Just use the search or google.
If it is possible, we make the solution public! Just wait...
A good solution I have found from helpful guys here is to
1 - install Second Today (found on these boards)
2 - registry change one of your soft keys to Second Today so you can flick between TF3D and Today
3 - install a today screen plugin (I like Pocket Breeze)
Then you have the best of both worlds and if you like tasks, as I do, you have them, notes etc all on your screen no harder to get to than scrolling home in TF3D
Oh and also if you wallpaper it with the same image you hardly know you are in and out of TF
Yeah I can definately recommend SecondToday too
Integrating Task-list to TouchFlo3d
I've been looking around a while, and so far with no luck for a fix for this.
So, the question is: Was the call log tab discovered in TouchFlo3D a pre-coded and hidden tab, or was it coded from scratch?
As far as I remember, it was discovered... But it was coded from scratch, can someone prep a task-tab for the TouchFlo3D?
This will be interesting, if only i was a programmer.
looking forward to this realese if someone would be willing enough, you are my heros
HI,
I solved that issue installing the Second Today application and using the Pocket Breeze plugin.
But I would also like to view the Tasks in a Native Touch Flow Tab.
Regards,
Jose
A tab with task and appointment info sure would be nice to have...
Tasks tab for Touchoflo 3D
Has anyone developed a new tab for Touchflo 3D (like they did for Call History) that would work with tasks? It would be great to be able to view and change the status of tasks on the fly...
Hey there! Remember I posted a similar thread for a while ago, didn't get any solutions then, but maybe this time
AFAIK the "recent calls" tab of TF3D hasn't been developed by anyone here. It was always there, right from HTC - just not used.
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AFAIK the "recent calls" tab of TF3D hasn't been developed by anyone here. It was always there, right from HTC - just not used.
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really? thats strange
Maybe it's because I live in New England, where weather is all important, but I find the Weather tab on the Fuze to be totally lame. I'm used to running WeatherPanel on my Tilt. I'm looking for instant access to detailed current conditions, forecasts, temps, charts, and radar and satellite images that I can put in motion. All of which I had direct access to on my Today screen via WeatherPanel, which would update in the background. On the Fuze, I get a static picture and temp (which doesn't seem to update on its own), and a link to an AccuWeather web site that never loads any info for my location.
I've searched all over; is there any better weather functionality to be used with the Weather tab in TF3D? To I have to trash TF3D and go back to a Today screen to get better weather info?
Pocket Weather is probably the most advanced available. I live in New England as well and it is pretty good.
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Pocket Weather is probably the most advanced available. I live in New England as well and it is pretty good.
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Will Pocket Weather work on the Fuze as a substitute under the Weather tab in TF3D? Or as an added tab? I looked at it and I came away with the impression its a Today screen plug-in, like WeatherPanel, and would not interface with TF3D on the Fuze.
Weather
I too, abandoned TouchFlo and went back to my SPB Plus and Shell, and SPB weather. It was cute having a windshield wiper in the rain, but I'd rather have function over being nice to look at. Hence, no iPhone.
So, I've been using SPB weather, doesn't do maps, but does do fairly accurate forecasting. And since I travel a lot it keeps many cities a few clicks away.
James
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the page update automatically if you leave "data connect" on all the time? Mine seamed to always be updated whenever I looked at the tab with this setup.
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I too, abandoned TouchFlo and went back to my SPB Plus and Shell, and SPB weather. It was cute having a windshield wiper in the rain, but I'd rather have function over being nice to look at. Hence, no iPhone.
So, I've been using SPB weather, doesn't do maps, but does do fairly accurate forecasting. And since I travel a lot it keeps many cities a few clicks away.
James
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That's what I was afraid of, there is no way to improve the functionality of the Weather tab. Which then leaves me facing the decision:if I'm not going to use TF3D to go back to Today screen with WeatherPanel plug-in, then will I return by Fuze and go back to my Tilt?
I don't know what you're talking about, i have my device set to update automatically and my weather updates regularly. You can make it update manually as well. SPB only shows the highs/lows for the day doesn't it?
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SPB Weather
For the most part SPB does show hi's and low's and some detail on today and tomorrow, but no maps or anything like that, which is all I need when I am mobile. If I need a meterological lesson, I'll pop on the weather channel.
I just wish there was a way to access the "app" for the weather screen in the touch flo, b/c the weather feature was some nice eye candy. And your right most of the weather apps, built-in or 3rd party can update automatically.
JWB
www.weather.com saves a cookie so you get all that super crazy info as soon as the page loads up. Just a though.
I've got a persistent data connetion too, and usually as soon as i switch to one of the cities in the tf3d weather, it updates right then.
My issue is the cities, or lack of some. I'm in new brunswick, canada, and "fredericton, nb" is not listed, but 'moncton, nb' and 'saint john, nb' are. I saw a couple posts about adding new cities using some sql apps & db inserts - is that how this one is updated? the last weather app i used , had an xml file I could update with codes from accuweather.com.
has anyone updated their listed cities? if so, how involved was it?
tks,
dwight.
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I've got a persistent data connetion too, and usually as soon as i switch to one of the cities in the tf3d weather, it updates right then.
My issue is the cities, or lack of some. I'm in new brunswick, canada, and "fredericton, nb" is not listed, but 'moncton, nb' and 'saint john, nb' are. I saw a couple posts about adding new cities using some sql apps & db inserts - is that how this one is updated? the last weather app i used , had an xml file I could update with codes from accuweather.com.
has anyone updated their listed cities? if so, how involved was it?
tks,
dwight.
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its actually pretty simple.
do a search for "weather database editor" thats the app that'll solve all ur problems and give u a basic walkthru on how to update ur cities.
Late,
Jstar
TF3D Diamond, Weather After Hard Reset
I have something different going on. Following a hard reset, my weather add-cities has changed. United States used to be at the top of the country list, and now it's clear down in the U's. Does the aforementioned database editor have anything to fix that? Otherwise, I don't need to edit anything, liking it as is. Thanks in advance!
Weather and CFNET 3.5
I had to get a new fuze due to a bad radio in the old one. I had the weather database and CFNET 3.5 installed on the old and working. However, on the new I have forgotten how to get the apps to use CFNET 3.5 and not the older version.
HELP ME.
I know I navigated to one of the apps and it was in a drop down but for the life of me I can not remember which one.
Thanks!
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I had to get a new fuze due to a bad radio in the old one. I had the weather database and CFNET 3.5 installed on the old and working. However, on the new I have forgotten how to get the apps to use CFNET 3.5 and not the older version.
HELP ME.
I know I navigated to one of the apps and it was in a drop down but for the life of me I can not remember which one.
Thanks!
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Install .Net Configuration. See attached cab below.
Once installed, go to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5. Select 'Apply' then 'OK'.
also you can use 2nd today you dont have to abandon tf3d entirely
Thanks!! I even had that on my memory card. Could not remember what it was. HOWEVER, I still get a message that "installation of weatherdatabaseEditor 1.2.CAB was unsuccessful. Any thoughts?
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Thanks!! I even had that on my memory card. Could not remember what it was. HOWEVER, I still get a message that "installation of weatherdatabaseEditor 1.2.CAB was unsuccessful. Any thoughts?
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Are you running a custom ROM? How about custom theme? I've noticed that 1.2 sometimes has conflicts with these. Try 1.1 Modified instead.
dwightery said:
I've got a persistent data connetion too, and usually as soon as i switch to one of the cities in the tf3d weather, it updates right then.
My issue is the cities, or lack of some. I'm in new brunswick, canada, and "fredericton, nb" is not listed, but 'moncton, nb' and 'saint john, nb' are. I saw a couple posts about adding new cities using some sql apps & db inserts - is that how this one is updated? the last weather app i used , had an xml file I could update with codes from accuweather.com.
has anyone updated their listed cities? if so, how involved was it?
tks,
dwight.
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it only update if you have wifi or data connection. It doesn't save any cache. I hate Manila Weather for this reason. It doesn't download a few hr in advance....
is it possible to change the tab to something else? like pocket weather?
I'm from Montreal
Don't have any custom rom. It is the stock ATT rom. I will try 1.1 and let you know.
Hi everyone,
I could use some help from the experienced TYTN owners out there:
I just purchased a used HTC TYTN II (my first pocket PC). The person who owned it previously downloaded the Ulitmate X.V4 ROM and Manila 2d into the phone already (took me a while to figure out what the "xda-developers" screen was that popped up every time I turned on my phone!).
1st problem- tried to simply customize my today screen by selecting items to be displayed in the 'settings>personal>today' tab. I check off the items I want as per the operation manual (i.e. tasks, appointments) but after clicking 'ok' nothing has changed on the today screen. When I go back into the settings, what I checked is no longer checked. Frustrating!!
So then I thought maybe this problem would be solved by adding a customization program. Downloaded the Manila customizer and a theme off this site (as a newbie, learned to download cabs by trial and error- couldn't find any clear cut beginner instructions on the internet on how to do this- so who knows if I've done it right). Loaded the theme this didn't help me customize what's on the today screen nor did the background change (only the title bars and menus changed)- no idea why or how to fix this.
I also tried to download the HTC home plugin, HHC customizer and appearances files. Managed to successfully download the customizer and appearances but the app won't run because I don't have the HTC home plugin and this file won't download. Every time I try I get the message: "installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." What does this mean??
Basically, all I want is a today screen that is customized to show my appointments, tasks along with the clock, calls, etc. And a nice theme would be great. Why can't I do this?! If anyone has suggestions or some links to beginner information that would be awesome.
I would also like to be able to download apps and run them... I have a TomTom GPS moblie disk but considering I can't even display my appointments on my phone, getting this to work will be mission impossible! Again, anything that will point me in the right direction would be much appreciated!
Jenn
u need to unload your manila in order for you to show all those today menu
OMG thank you so much- it's all good now. I sadly would not have figured out such a simple thing and unfortunately I could not find anything on the internet that would explain this. The guy who had the phone before me obviously knew what he was doing and downloaded all kinds of stuff, which is great... but then it made the official manual useless while learning the phone!!
I have my tasks/appts on the today screen like I wanted but I'm sad that I don't have the "actions" tab with touchflo anymore
This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?
I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.
As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.
My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!
Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.
I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.
Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!
grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!
Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?
I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.
I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !
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Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.
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I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.