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Simple weather app (not for today screen) - like the iPhone?

Hey everyone,
I'm sick of trying to get the HTC Home weather thing to work. I've tried replacing DLL's, editing XML files, and installing a couple different versions. None seem to work so I'm moving away from this weather app.
I'm looking for a standalone app that will show me local weather along with a 5 or 7 day forecast. It would also be nice if I could store other city's to it as well so I can see the weather at different places.
I don't want a today screen plugin. I just want to be able to open this application, view the weather, and close it.
Anyone have a good program for that? Free or paid I don't care... I'm just looking for the best & most stable.

It isn't just a weather app, however SPB traveller when opened shows the cities you have specified with their weather, high and low temps for 4/5 days depending on the view you select.
It will show you their time and conversions to your local money.
It is likely to be a bit bloated for what you require, however it works exceptionally well and I haven't had any issues with it.

guitarlp said:
Hey everyone,
I'm sick of trying to get the HTC Home weather thing to work. I've tried replacing DLL's, editing XML files, and installing a couple different versions. None seem to work so I'm moving away from this weather app.
I'm looking for a standalone app that will show me local weather along with a 5 or 7 day forecast. It would also be nice if I could store other city's to it as well so I can see the weather at different places.
I don't want a today screen plugin. I just want to be able to open this application, view the weather, and close it.
Anyone have a good program for that? Free or paid I don't care... I'm just looking for the best & most stable.
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"Weather Watcher" is exactly what you are looking for. It will do multiple cities, current conditions, hourly, extended forecast, weather alerts, and a zoom-able radar of the city you have selected. You can set it to automatically update or update it manually. Best part is that it is free. You can get it here.

marm0lade said:
"Weather Watcher" is exactly what you are looking for. It will do multiple cities, current conditions, hourly, extended forecast, weather alerts, and a zoom-able radar of the city you have selected. You can set it to automatically update or update it manually. Best part is that it is free. You can get it here.
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Thank you for the program. Seems to work pretty well. I had to make Opera NOT by default browser through... otherwise it wouldn't work. It basically loads IE into the program and you view webpages.
But... very cool. Thanks again

WizRd said:
It isn't just a weather app, however SPB traveller when opened shows the cities you have specified with their weather, high and low temps for 4/5 days depending on the view you select.
It will show you their time and conversions to your local money.
It is likely to be a bit bloated for what you require, however it works exceptionally well and I haven't had any issues with it.
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I'll check it out... but just from looking at the program it does seem a tad too bloated for what I'm looking for. But thank you

I liked Weather Watcher too, but it won't open HTML pages since Opera was my default.
I uninstalled Opera and it still wouldn't work. Did you have to change any settings?

jackburnt said:
I liked Weather Watcher too, but it won't open HTML pages since Opera was my default.
I uninstalled Opera and it still wouldn't work. Did you have to change any settings?
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With Opera installed I went into settings and made sure to un-check make opera the default browser.
After I did that it worked.

Another vote for Weather Watcher

Let me rephrase it: I couldn't get it to working using Opera Mini

try weather panel. in case you have the SP BMobile hsell, you can insert the program as one of the tabs. I love it. It's the best, and I've tried them all.

I use PocketWeather, very detailed.

ekhhhh...im really getting frustrated, none of these programs work with a proxy connection! does anybody know a weather program that works with a proxy connection? thanks
omar

omaralt said:
ekhhhh...im really getting frustrated, none of these programs work with a proxy connection! does anybody know a weather program that works with a proxy connection? thanks
omar
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Marsware WeatherPanel works just fine with the proxy...been using it this way for over a year now.

looks nice, but i'd prefer something free... thanks tho

Weather Watcher
omaralt said:
looks nice, but i'd prefer something free... thanks tho
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Well Weather Watcher is in deed free. I'm afraid to say you might have settings problems on your GPRS connection. I have Proxy and it worked perfectly for me. If you care to share our DevInfo, I'll see if I can help.

Hi there,
Where did you get Weatherpanel free, all the version I got asked for registration key and even if I put it in it still asked me for it again, like I never entered it. I'm using Pocket Weather now and its pretty good.(Not free though)

You can try this one. It's free and loaded to the gills w/ info. Including hourly.
http://www.4shared.com/file/39878888/193be555/Mobile_Weather.html

big wave said:
Another vote for Weather Watcher
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It says it is US only {Edit} <-- And I am being a 'tard, the US only bit is limited to the severe weather warnings. {/Edit}
P1Tater said:
You can try this one. It's free and loaded to the gills w/ info. Including hourly.
http://www.4shared.com/file/39878888/193be555/Mobile_Weather.html
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What is that?

Cavey.co.uk said:
What is that?
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It's Weather Watcher 1.0.8 Mobile Edition.

I've looked in Opera settings and can't find the option to uncheck opera as my default browser....is it in Opera:config?...if so where?

HTC - Settings...I've lost track of one

I recently installed Alex's rom, and love it. But one thing I'm trying to get that I had on my other is for HTC Plugin. I was able to press on the icon, and set it to hide the items it displayed. So, for eample, the large clock takes up a lot of screen space, I could have it hiddent, then click the icon for it to display. I can't do that with this.
I thought HTC Customizer must have given me that, so I instaleld it, and it doesn't.
CAn anyone point me to the right app to get that setting capability on HTC? There are a lot of posts out here about the HTC screens, but I haven't run across that description.
Thanks!

Bump...
Any ideas ?

I believe you're referring to UltimateLaunch or SPB PocketPlus 4.02, which allows you to install a today plug-in as a tab. Both applications have limited trials.

Alex, you are so good.
Yes, in fact I just came back here to say, I found that wsa it. I in fact have SPB Pocket Plus. But I had forgotten that was how I did it.
I'm making notes of all the changes I'm doing, so next time I do a ROM (I'm sure you'll have one I just have to try later ) that I'll be able to recrate some of my stuff.
Thanks!

Updated: HTC Weather Master 1.0.b4

Update 2/7
HTC Weather Master 1.0 has been release. Go here for more information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3287665#post3287665
PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD
Updated 2/6 - HTC Weather Master 1.0.b4 now available.
Feature List:
Manage your current city list, delete cities, add them, change their order
Simplied interface making it easy to add US cities, World-wide cities and Countries...
Cooked-In support that allows chefs to force it to load once after the customization reboot...
Support for the backing up/restoring of your current cities to a storage card...
Support for auto-loading of backed up cities upon clean install (when in Cooked-In mode)
Changes since version 1.0.b3
Added a nicer start up
Attempts to clear current cache and journals when starting
New entries are sorted on to the list properly
Changing your state/country attempts to make the first relevant entry visible on the list
Changes since version 1.0.b2
Reworked how it manages the database. Startup is a little slower, but using the program should be much faster
Fix a bug with restoring a backed up weather list
Changes since version 1.0.b1
Added a Current Weather page for managing your current weather locations
WM no longer overwrites existing weather
Added code to fix the url which should make it work on all roms
Attempt at creating shadow copies of the db which will hopefully fix the read-only issues
Added an initial check to make sure the DB is there
Installs to the room Start Menu instead of Tools
Keep the feedback coming. I've removed the instructions and package for chefs until it gets out of beta. If you're a chef and want to play with it or include it, PM me.

Can the HTCWeatherMasterInstaller.CAB be used with out being cooked into the ROM?

JoeWilcox said:
Hey everyone, I kept getting frustrated that Weather Editor would often just refuse to add my cities so I wrote a new one and I'm looking for people to help me test it, especially Chefs. Check out HTC Weather Master.
Download HTCWeatherMasterForChefs.zip
Integrate it in to your ROM (I tend to put it in ExtendedPkg)
Edit a Config.txt and add: "EXEC \WINDOWS\HTCWeatherMaster.exe -cooked"
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This looks amazing! I will test this out for my new ROM due tomorrow. BTW, you missed a ":" in the EXEC line in your list. It should be "EXEC:\WINDOWS\HTCWeatherMaster.exe -cooked"
smotrs said:
Can the HTCWeatherMasterInstaller.CAB be used with out being cooked into the ROM?
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Yes it can be. The CAB is for post flashing, and the zip file is for us chefs.

NotATreoFan said:
This looks amazing! I will test this out for my new ROM due tomorrow. BTW, you missed a ":" in the EXEC line in your list. It should be "EXEC:\WINDOWS\HTCWeatherMaster.exe -cooked"
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Yep, fixed it. Thanks for the catch.

Great Program
Nice job on this program. Definitely prefer this over WeatherDatabaseEditor. I will continue to play around with it and will report any problems.

Very nice work... I have some potential suggestions from the users side for the final product...
It installs to "Tools" which was confusing for a second for me, but might be more confusing for others.
Defaultly starts up at NC, is this because thats where you are?
The Set button is cool, but I didnt know it'd wipe out my other saved cities, maybe a warning?
Again, great work... a big improvement over WeatherDB Editor which was also great!
-SCDavis

This is great, you should add AppToDate support, 12

Am I understanding this right that I can install the cab to my Fuze and will then be able to add cities to my Weather tab that I am unable to add with the default weather settings? Is this correct? If it doesn't work for me, can I uninstall and it revert to the original weather program/settings?

mark72501 said:
Am I understanding this right that I can install the cab to my Fuze and will then be able to add cities to my Weather tab that I am unable to add with the default weather settings? Is this correct? If it doesn't work for me, can I uninstall and it revert to the original weather program/settings?
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Yes you can install the cab file on your Fuze. It adds cities to the weather database. You still have to go to the Weather Tab and add the location you created using Weather Master.

Excellent! Thanks for the program! I'm going to give it a try.

Okay, so I installed the cab. Installed fine. Went to Tools and ran the config program. I added my city (Batesville, AR) and it added it to the list.
However, when I go to the Weather tab, it shows my city name as Batesville, AR but it sits there...and then after several seconds will give me a connection error. I switched back to the other city I was using originally (Little Rock, AR) and it updated the weather almost immediately.
Any ideas? Is it not pointing to the right location to d/l the weather for added cities? Or did I do something wrong?

It installs to "Tools" which was confusing for a second for me, but might be more confusing for others.
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Yea, I'll reset the cab to install to the root instead of tools. Hopefully most Chefs will cook it in and then they can place the link where ever they want.
Defaultly starts up at NC, is this because thats where you are?
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Yep.
The Set button is cool, but I didnt know it'd wipe out my other saved cities, maybe a warning?
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That's a good point. I'll add a warning if you are about to overwrite current weather.

mark72501 said:
Okay, so I installed the cab. Installed fine. Went to Tools and ran the config program. I added my city (Batesville, AR) and it added it to the list.
However, when I go to the Weather tab, it shows my city name as Batesville, AR but it sits there...and then after several seconds will give me a connection error. I switched back to the other city I was using originally (Little Rock, AR) and it updated the weather almost immediately.
Any ideas? Is it not pointing to the right location to d/l the weather for added cities? Or did I do something wrong?
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Try this. Go to Start/Setting/Today/Items and uncheck TouchFlo3D. Using Total Commander go to Application Data\HTC\databases and delete forecast_cache.db. Go back and check TouchFlo3D. Add your city and see if it will update.

mark72501 said:
Okay, so I installed the cab. Installed fine. Went to Tools and ran the config program. I added my city (Batesville, AR) and it added it to the list.
However, when I go to the Weather tab, it shows my city name as Batesville, AR but it sits there...and then after several seconds will give me a connection error. I switched back to the other city I was using originally (Little Rock, AR) and it updated the weather almost immediately.
Any ideas? Is it not pointing to the right location to d/l the weather for added cities? Or did I do something wrong?
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I just tried it here and was able to add Batesville AR. Try removing the entry you added and readd it. If that doesn't work, send me you 2330fc3c_manila file from your windows directory so I can see what's up.

rwertz14 said:
Try this. Go to Start/Setting/Today/Items and uncheck TouchFlo3D. Using Total Commander go to Application Data\HTC\databases and delete forecast_cache.db. Go back and check TouchFlo3D. Add your city and see if it will update.
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I wonder if I should delete the cache whenever you set the weather.

JoeWilcox said:
I wonder if I should delete the cache whenever you set the weather.
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It might be a good idea to do that. After doing some reading in other threads, deleting the forecast_cache.db seems to be the solution for users having problems getting cities to update after adding them. I don't think it would hurt anything by doing it and might be a proactive way in solving issues before they pop up.

I deleted the cache, as suggested, and still nothing.
Maybe you should briefly run through the steps I should've followed to add my city? It doesn't make sense (to me) that the default cities will update but the added ones will not...I'm wondering if I missed a step somewhere. Thx.

Sqlite table error
I loaded the cab to my device ATT Tilt
When I run the program it responds with
SQLite error: no such table cities
Any suggestions ?

Is the tilt running touch flo 3D?

mark72501 said:
I deleted the cache, as suggested, and still nothing.
Maybe you should briefly run through the steps I should've followed to add my city? It doesn't make sense (to me) that the default cities will update but the added ones will not...I'm wondering if I missed a step somewhere. Thx.
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Load Weather Master
Select the US tab
Select your state (AR)
Enter "batesville" for the city.
Press SET
If that doesn't work, send me your db file (2330fc3c_manila).

weather - downloading different site?

Hi,
just noticed that where the Kaiser downloads the weather for us here in Australia is often wrong. Is there a way that I can get the weather information from http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS10034.shtml and to display it in the "Weather" section?

Don't know about BOM but you can get the weather from the Age newspaper if you're using SPB Weather (or SPB Traveller or something, I'm confused) using a script written by Andrew Kirkland (AndrewK). Found it somewhere on another board. Try googling the name, or look through the SPB support area. Just can't remember exactly where I saw it. It's accurate if you d/load in the morning but a day out if you D/L in PM! Don't know about native HTC app (is there a weather app in WM or HTC?).
Hope that helps (and I haven't confused you too!).

serpeanr said:
Hi,
just noticed that where the Kaiser downloads the weather for us here in Australia is often wrong. Is there a way that I can get the weather information from http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS10034.shtml and to display it in the "Weather" section?
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Where/how is it "wrong"? I am a weather junkie and often cross compare BOM's current condition http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60901/IDN60901.94767.shtml with the results on my phone...
The only time it is "wrong" is due to rounding off the decimal or a case of timing
SPB Weather or Traveller as mentioned before allows for diffeent locations, However the "Age Script" is not much use.
I have shortcuts to BOM's rain radar and to the above link and access them regularly... HTC weather is to make my phone pretty and give me current conditions at a glance

Getting Rid of TF3D

This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?

I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.

As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.

My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!

I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!

Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.

I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.

If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.

chch said:
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.

Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.

Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.

Jim Coleman said:
Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.

grgmhlch said:
Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!

Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?

I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.

I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !

Jim Coleman said:
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.

Jim Coleman said:
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.